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The Big Question: Ile ładowarek do pojazdów elektrycznych potrzebuje Europa?

„Jeśli infrastruktura ładowania nie nadąży, branży pojazdów elektrycznych trudno będzie utrzymać wzrost” – powiedział Manoj Raghavan, dyrektor generalny Tata Elxsi.

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00:00Zobaczmy, że to nie ma dobrej user experience.
00:02Dla infrastruktura to rampa uporzalne bardzo szybko.
00:05I think that is hope.
00:11Welcome to The Big Question,
00:13the series from Euronews,
00:14where we address some of the most important issues
00:16on the business agenda.
00:18I'm Hannah Brown,
00:19and today I'm joined by CEO and Managing Director
00:21of Tata Elksi, Manoj Rokhavan.
00:23So thank you very much for joining me, Manoj.
00:25Thank you.
00:26First of all, for those in our audience
00:27who might not know precisely what Tata Elksi do,
00:31can you just explain, please?
00:32But Tata Elksi is focused on product design
00:35and the engineering space.
00:36We focus on three verticals.
00:38Automotive is the largest vertical for us.
00:40We also do work in the media and telecom,
00:42as well as the healthcare and life sciences space.
00:44So a lot of the work that we do
00:46are cutting edge, next generation product development
00:49and maintaining the existing products
00:51and value add and so on.
00:53So that's the business that we do.
00:54So as you said there,
00:56that Tata Elksi does a lot of design
00:57and technology innovation
00:58within the automotive industry.
01:00Right now, there's a big push towards EVs in Europe.
01:03But in your opinion,
01:04what are the key barriers
01:05to increased adoption here in Europe?
01:07One is the cost.
01:08Most EVs today retail at about,
01:11you know, 40,000 to 50,000 euros.
01:12For mass adoption of EVs,
01:14the price comes down to around 25,000 euros.
01:16I think you will see a lot more adoption, right?
01:18Number two is the availability
01:20of charging infrastructure.
01:22Of course, you know,
01:23charging at the home infrastructure
01:25is already available.
01:26But what is more important
01:27is the public charging infrastructure.
01:29Today in Europe,
01:30maybe more than a million
01:32public charging facilities are available.
01:35And to meet Europe's goal
01:36of the Fit for 55
01:37and, you know,
01:38reducing the carbon emission
01:39by 55 person in 2030,
01:42Europe needs minimum
01:443.5 million public charging,
01:46you know, infrastructure
01:47to be available.
01:48all the way to maybe
01:49some reports talk about
01:518 million public charging infrastructure
01:52that is needed.
01:53However, the challenge
01:54is not just about
01:55the number of public charging infrastructure.
01:57The challenge is also about
01:58the number of fast chargers
01:59that are available
02:00because people would not like
02:02to spend more than 10 minutes
02:03or 15 minutes
02:04charging their cars.
02:06And so unless you have
02:06the fast chargers
02:08that are available,
02:09the experience for the driver
02:10and the passengers
02:11is not going to be great.
02:13So I think today
02:14about 13.5% of these chargers
02:16are fast chargers.
02:18However, to reach
02:19the goals of 2030,
02:21maybe at least 60, 70%
02:22of these chargers
02:24have to be fast chargers.
02:25Most of these public chargers
02:26are concentrated
02:27in three major countries,
02:29Netherlands, Germany, and France.
02:31However, for EV uptake
02:34to, you know,
02:35to go up significantly,
02:36there has to be
02:37an equitable distribution
02:38of these public chargers
02:39in other countries as well,
02:40especially where people
02:41need to use it,
02:42along the highways,
02:43in rural areas.
02:44See, a lot of the infrastructure
02:45is built in the cities
02:46and so on.
02:48But looking at,
02:49you know,
02:49people driving long distances
02:51and so on,
02:52availability of these chargers
02:53on the highways
02:54and in rural areas
02:55are also going to be important.
02:57The electricity grid itself,
02:59right, you know,
03:00by 2030,
03:00when you have
03:01a lot more EV cars
03:02on the road
03:02and all of them charging
03:03into the network,
03:04the EV grid has to be updated.
03:06These are some of the issues
03:07that Europe has to address,
03:08you know,
03:09before, you know,
03:10EV can meaningfully
03:11pick up the speed.
03:18So in 2024,
03:20according to
03:21the International Energy Agency,
03:23their data said
03:24that across the EU,
03:25on average,
03:26there was around
03:26one charger
03:27for every 13 EVs.
03:29But that was a decrease
03:30of about 10%
03:31on 2023 ratios,
03:33which means
03:34that EV ownership
03:35is growing,
03:36but we're not
03:37matching that
03:37with infrastructure growth,
03:38right?
03:39So what ratio
03:40should we be looking for
03:41and what would be
03:42the consequence
03:43if we don't keep up
03:44with that charging
03:45infrastructure growth?
03:46Charging infrastructure
03:47has to ramp up
03:48pretty rapidly, right?
03:49So we are looking at
03:51between 1 to 2
03:53or 1 to 3
03:53sort of ratios, right?
03:55So it's a,
03:55you know,
03:56far higher ratio
03:57as compared to
03:571 to 12
03:58or 1 to 13
03:59today that you have.
04:00That is definitely
04:01going to be critical
04:02because as you have
04:03more EVs on the road
04:04and especially
04:06during either peak hours
04:08or during holiday season
04:09when everybody's
04:11on the road
04:12and the chargers
04:13are clogged,
04:14that doesn't give
04:15a good user experience.
04:16People will soon
04:17start missing
04:17their ICE engine.
04:18So I think
04:19unless the charging
04:20infrastructure,
04:21you know,
04:21keeps up,
04:22it'll be difficult
04:23for the EV industry
04:25to sustain,
04:25you know,
04:26the growth.
04:27So it's very,
04:28very critical
04:28at this point.
04:29Thinking about
04:29what you do
04:30at Tatoelxi,
04:31you know,
04:32what innovations here
04:33can help with this issue,
04:34whether that is
04:35with chargers
04:36or with batteries?
04:37In five years
04:38or in ten years,
04:39we'll have a lot more
04:40new materials
04:40that come out
04:41that, you know,
04:42you can charge
04:42maybe in five minutes
04:43that gives
04:44a thousand kilometer range
04:46and so on.
04:46So I think
04:47the industry demands,
04:49you know,
04:49range,
04:50industry demands
04:51fast charging
04:51and I'm sure
04:52that, you know,
04:53all of that
04:53will come out
04:54in no time.
04:55And the range anxiety,
04:57I would say,
04:58would be a thing
04:58of the past, right?
04:59I mean,
05:00today if you see
05:00some of the technologies
05:01that are there
05:02in China
05:02and so on,
05:04there are some OEMs
05:04that are talking of,
05:05you know,
05:06battery swapping.
05:07You don't need
05:07to wait
05:08for you to charge
05:0815 minutes
05:09or half an hour
05:10and so on.
05:10You drive in
05:11to a battery swapping center,
05:12they remove the battery
05:14and give you
05:15a fresh,
05:16fully charged battery
05:17all in under five minutes.
05:19Of course,
05:19when you talk of battery,
05:20it is, you know,
05:21lithium and NMC
05:22and, you know,
05:23all of these
05:23are either
05:24bare earth
05:24and the supply
05:25is available
05:25only in certain parts
05:27of the world
05:27and today,
05:29if you look at it,
05:29only a few countries
05:30have monopolized
05:31the entire lithium
05:33and lithium ore
05:34and so on,
05:34including manufacturing
05:36of all these batteries
05:38are also limited
05:38to a few countries
05:40in the world.
05:41So that puts a lot
05:41of, you know,
05:42supply chain risks
05:43as well.
05:44I think the best case
05:45situation for Mother Earth
05:47is that we have
05:48some alternate material
05:50that is available
05:50in abundance,
05:51right?
05:52Maybe silica,
05:52maybe sand,
05:53maybe sodium
05:54and so on.
05:55There are a lot
05:55of research
05:56that is happening
05:57in which case
05:58then we really
05:59don't need to
05:59do all this mining
06:00for lithium
06:01and, you know,
06:02the other rare earth
06:03heavy metals
06:03and so on.
06:04So actually,
06:05all of these design
06:05innovations
06:06that we've discussed
06:07could all be
06:07massive game changers
06:09in the evolution
06:09of EV adoption
06:11but what will
06:13all of these things
06:13do to the price?
06:15Yeah,
06:15EVs are definitely
06:16not cheap.
06:17I think the
06:17major component
06:18of, you know,
06:19if you look at an EV
06:20from a price perspective
06:22is the batteries.
06:23So a lot of focus
06:25has been on the industry
06:25to bring down
06:26the price of the batteries.
06:27I think the industry,
06:28I think we've succeeded
06:29in really bringing
06:30down the price
06:30of the batteries
06:31over the last five years
06:32or last 10 years.
06:33It has been significant.
06:34I mean,
06:35by a factor of two or three,
06:36the price have come down,
06:37right?
06:37And I'm sure
06:38moving forward
06:39in the next five years
06:41and so on,
06:42the prices would still
06:43keep coming down
06:44and the focus is
06:45to see how we can use
06:46commonly available
06:47material, right?
06:48So definitely
06:49the hope is that
06:51it won't involve
06:52expensive processing
06:53and so on
06:53and we will be able
06:55to bring down
06:56prices even
06:56for the alternate
06:57technologies
06:58that we're looking at.
06:59So from a technology
07:00perspective,
07:01from a design
07:02thinking perspective
07:02with tools like AI
07:04and what it does
07:05is it helps companies
07:06get it right first.
07:07You simulate,
07:08you do everything
07:09on a virtual platform,
07:10you design digitally,
07:12you sort out
07:13all the issues
07:13ahead of time
07:14and then you put it
07:15into the car
07:15and so on, right?
07:16Of course,
07:17you still need to
07:17manufacture a few prototypes
07:19but earlier
07:20before you launch a car
07:21you manufacture,
07:22you know,
07:22200, 300 units
07:23and each of these units
07:24are very expensive
07:25and so on
07:26and do a full driving
07:27and end-to-end testing
07:28using those prototypes.
07:30Today, a lot of that
07:31can be done virtually
07:31using simulation platforms.
07:34So yes,
07:35I think technology
07:37that is available,
07:38you know,
07:38moving forward
07:39will really help,
07:40I would say,
07:41bring down the price
07:41even further.
07:42So I think that is hope.
07:44Okay, brilliant.
07:44And on that note,
07:46that's all we have time for
07:47but thank you so much
07:48for joining me today
07:48on The Big Question.
07:49Thank you.
07:50Thank you Anna.
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