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00:00If you're sitting at the house while I'm going out and working, I'm going to get frustrated, I'm going to get aggravated.
00:05Hey, all you're doing is working out and shopping.
00:07That don't work for me. It works for some people. That definitely would never work for me.
00:14Virtual Reality
00:15Thaddeus Bullard from King's Court.
00:20Danny and I are so excited to chat with you because you're on the first season of King's Court.
00:25How are you feeling? Are you glad you did it?
00:26I am glad I did it.
00:28People ask me all the time, are you nervous about the premiere?
00:32Are you worried about it? I'm not worried about anything.
00:34It's already shot.
00:36I think we had an amazing journey to find love.
00:40I think there are a lot of stories that will be told throughout this, for not only myself, but Carlos and Tyson as well.
00:47Even some of the ladies being able to share some vulnerable moments on the show.
00:52I think it will really humanize all of us instead of, you know, Tyson's this major supermodel and I come from WWE and Carlos in the NBA.
01:04So it's like it just humanizes us and lets people realize like, yeah, like these guys want love too.
01:10And they just get a really cool opportunity to do it with 21 women.
01:14It's very rare.
01:15That's what I mean.
01:16Fun odds, good odds, yeah.
01:17And I feel like, especially with the three of you, being in such careers, I would imagine if it wasn't for the show, like when would you even have time to date?
01:26Like was dating really top of mind for you before you had the opportunity to do the show or were you kind of like, I would love to, but when?
01:32Yeah, I think it's top of mind for all of us, but the reality of it is, is who's really authentically there for, you know, you.
01:41And that's the hard part because you don't have a whole lot of time.
01:44I'm traveling, I'm going here and doing this and doing that.
01:47And then you think you have a connection with someone and then you realize like, oh, no, this is, to me, like love seeks to give the advantage, not take the advantage.
01:55And so many of the times, or a lot of the times on the dating scene, people are looking for you to deposit, deposit, deposit, but yet you can never make any withdrawals.
02:07And so that doesn't even work in real life stuff.
02:10You can't go to the bank and make withdrawals from a bank that you haven't put any deposits in.
02:15That's a good way to put it.
02:16I mean, is it tough to date as a celebrity, to date when you're famous?
02:19I think it's tough nowadays to date for everybody.
02:22Yeah.
02:23Um, because of the fact that like, you don't really know, you don't really like, as you get, like, I've gotten old as I'm 48 years old.
02:33So I've lived a lot of life, seen a lot of things, traveled a lot.
02:37And me addressing my mental health and being able to recognize trauma in other people or things as trauma are a lot clearer for me.
02:47And I think a lot of people want to be loved a certain way and they want to be, um, uh, you know, courted a certain way.
02:55And a lot of times that's based on their previous traumas, not based on what's actually best for them.
03:01So all of us want love, but it's about what we need.
03:05And so really finding a genuine connection is tough, whether you're a celebrity or a person working nine to five or a school teacher or a lawyer or a doctor or whatever.
03:16Because at the end of the day, we're all walking around.
03:19You know, all of us are walking around with some traumas that made, you know, oh, that's just the way I grew up.
03:24Well, the way you grew up was kind of jacked up, bro.
03:27You know what I mean?
03:27Because for so long, people just throw stuff under like, oh, that happens.
03:30Like, no, but if you sit with it and process it, it really, it illuminates you and how you move about the world.
03:37And I'm curious, after you have been able to have that reflection on like your mental health and everything, has the definition of like a genuine connection changed for you?
03:46Yes, on several. So before I always like I want someone that I'm compatible with and I want a companion.
03:54And now I really want a partner. I have five French Bulldogs. I don't need another companion.
04:01I can go to the movies with anybody and then they go all their way and I go my way and we call it a day.
04:09A partner is someone that I know for a fact that like where they're weak, I'm strong and where I'm strong, you know, they may be weak.
04:18And we kind of we're building that way, you know, because it's a real partnership.
04:23It's like, OK, it's not a 50 50 thing. It's not a 80 20 thing.
04:28It's really about I want to do the best that I possibly can to help put you in a position to win in every aspect of your life.
04:36And I want to cheer. I want to be a cheerleader for my partner, too.
04:39I love that. I want to be able to like watch my partner with this, you know, doctor or lawyer or whatever.
04:46I want to see them doing their thing. I want to be able to go and support them at a gala.
04:49I want to be able to and just be like like I am with my kids, like I go to my kids games and I'm almost invisible.
04:57I mean, I'm it's hard to say. I'm sitting here with a big yellow shirt on.
05:02Yeah. What do your kids think of the experience? Are they cheering you on? Are they excited?
05:07Yeah. No, they're very excited. Obviously, they've seen some of the people that I've dated and and had some connection with them as well.
05:14But then realized, you know, after the fact, they're like, hey, I can understand why it didn't work.
05:19You know, I was married to my son's mom, both of my boys mom and been divorced since 2009 and have dated, you know, throughout that period here and there.
05:30And for whatever reason, it just hasn't started, you know, stayed.
05:34And so they're excited to hopefully see something to stay for me.
05:39And also that past like decade plus of you getting out in the dating field and everything.
05:44You've also been around when like dating has changed so much with like dating apps.
05:49Yeah. Yeah. I don't do all that.
05:51Nothing. No. Did you ever dabble?
05:53No, not at all. You've never been on Raya.
05:56Man, I what? What is what is Raya?
05:58Raya is the dating app for celebrities. We don't know about it, but you could know about it.
06:01Yes, you could be on it.
06:01No.
06:02Okay. No.
06:03Raya's not for you.
06:04No.
06:04Do we utilize the DMs?
06:05Do we in the past?
06:07I feel like you have.
06:09I feel people have been utilizing your DMs.
06:11Right.
06:11I think people have reached out to me on my DMs.
06:14I've never DMed anybody.
06:15Okay.
06:16Will you respond to a DM?
06:18On occasion, I will.
06:19Okay.
06:19But I don't know who I'm talking to.
06:21Well, you got to figure that out in the DMs.
06:23Yeah.
06:23I got to wait. If they got a blue check, I'm more likely to respond to them.
06:28Because then you know they're legit.
06:29Yeah.
06:29But I feel like, I mean, like you're saying, dating has changed so much.
06:34Dating on TV, I feel there's an excitement to it, but also added levels to it.
06:40Did you learn anything about how you are on a date from filming the show?
06:44I did.
06:45What happened?
06:45Yeah. What are you doing?
06:46Yeah. I learned, well, it's not something I didn't know going in, but people that know
06:52me know, like, I don't have a good poker face at all.
06:56And that doesn't always bode well.
07:01Especially on the first date.
07:02On the first date.
07:03I'm like, I'm not feeling this at all.
07:07But you can't say that.
07:09But your face can.
07:11Your face can.
07:11Yeah.
07:12So, the other part is, is that even though, like, the excitement of everything is great
07:18and this and that, it's just, it's the first time that me as a man can be in a position
07:24where I can date openly.
07:27I like you, I like you, and I like you.
07:31And they all got to be cool with it.
07:33That is true.
07:34You know what I'm saying?
07:34Also, because it's funny, because that kind of is, well, a lot of times, like it or not,
07:38that is modern dating, because you're going on a few dates with everybody.
07:41You can't, like, be after two dates.
07:43You can't tell somebody, hey, I'm going on a date with this person.
07:47Right.
07:47Like, oh, I'm busy Thursday because I have a dentist appointment at 7.30.
07:52Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:54Your dentist at 7.30 in the evening.
07:57Come on now.
07:57I'm not going to be getting used, but now for the day.
08:00What was it like going through this experience with Tyson and Carlos?
08:04Was there a competitive aspect to it?
08:06No.
08:06Not at all.
08:08It's probably one of the purest and easiest brotherhoods I've ever developed in my life.
08:14Yeah.
08:15Oh, that's amazing.
08:16It's a bonding experience.
08:16I love those dudes.
08:17Yeah.
08:17Like, and you'll see it on camera.
08:20Like, it's, I don't think they will find three men the next go around.
08:29I hope, I hope they do, but with the chemistry that we have, the, the, like, hey, you want
08:36to take her on a date?
08:37Cool.
08:37Like, I'll take her next time if the opportunity comes up.
08:40Like, there was literally no, and for me, I self-disqualified myself from a lot of these
08:45dates anyway.
08:45Or, well, I pulled myself out of a situation where these women would even, like, really
08:50take me seriously because I don't want to have any more kids.
08:53Oh.
08:53And some of them, they want to have kids.
08:57And so, hey, Carlos and Tyson, y'all go ahead.
09:01Okay.
09:01Have a ball.
09:02Enjoy yourself.
09:03I'll send you some diapers.
09:04Enjoy yourself.
09:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:05Uncle Thaddeus will be over whenever y'all need me.
09:08Were you close with them at all before the show started?
09:11No, I wasn't.
09:12I've known of both of them.
09:14And actually, a funny story is, in college at the University of Florida, I did, like,
09:20some modeling as well.
09:21I played football, but I did a little bit of modeling here and there.
09:24And Terry Jackson and Fred Taylor used to, like, when I come in, I go, oh, there go
09:30Tyson Beckford, y'all.
09:32There go Tyson Beckford.
09:33So, like, my nickname was Tyson Beckford.
09:36I'm screaming.
09:36With some of the football players.
09:38So somehow you manifested this.
09:39Yeah.
09:39Yeah, I didn't.
09:40They did.
09:40Everyone else is right there.
09:41Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:42They did.
09:43But Tyson and Carlos have known each other for 20-some years.
09:48Oh, wow.
09:48Yeah, they both live in Miami.
09:50They ran with same circles and so.
09:52I'm kidding, because I know we can't give too much away.
09:55Mm-hmm.
09:56But do any of the ladies, maybe at first glance, with your poker face,
10:00you kind of were writing them off, but grew to surprise you?
10:03You know what I mean?
10:03Oh, yeah.
10:04Did you have moments of surprising yourself on this show?
10:06Yeah, I had a few, actually, where I was like, I'm not really interested.
10:12And then there's a time when I was like, oh, she's pretty cool.
10:15And I know...
10:16Not just from aesthetics situation, but just, like, I just didn't think there was nothing there.
10:20A personality, yeah.
10:21But that's what I love about the show.
10:22You have more time to help, like, get the feelings to develop.
10:24And I know you said wanting kids is a deal-breaker for you just because you're like, you have
10:30your kids, you're good.
10:30Are there any other, like, major red flags or deal-breakers for you?
10:34I mean, you got to have a job.
10:37Oh, okay.
10:38Yeah.
10:38I don't want to stay at home wife.
10:41Like...
10:42You're like, we both have to be doing our thing.
10:43Yeah.
10:43Yeah.
10:44Like, before I came into your life, there should have been goals that wanted to be achieved.
10:48You know, you went to college for a reason, and, you know, I don't want to take away anything
10:56from anybody.
10:56I want to be able to enhance whatever it is that they want to do in life, and that's what
11:00a partnership is to me.
11:02It's like, how are we making each other better?
11:05If I just have you sitting at the house while I'm going out and working, I'm going to get
11:09frustrated, I'm going to get aggravated.
11:10Hey, all you're doing is working out and shopping.
11:13That don't work for me.
11:14It works for some people.
11:15That definitely would never work for me.
11:16It sounds fun to me.
11:19The dog...
11:19Well, you guys are not going to be a match then.
11:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:21We definitely ain't going to be a match because of that.
11:23That sounds like a good itinerary.
11:24Unfortunately, that's not how I spend my days, but...
11:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:28Oh, my God.
11:29So, other than a woman who has a job, what else were you looking for?
11:32What other prerequisites?
11:33Just a good spiritual foundation, you know, faith-based.
11:38Yeah.
11:38For me, I'm a Christian.
11:40Well, I say I'm a man of faith.
11:42I believe in God, and I believe in Jesus Christ.
11:43I try to keep myself away from, like, isolating myself to one specific form of religion.
11:50I'm not a religious person.
11:51I'm a relationship person, and my relationship is with God and Jesus Christ.
11:55Some people's relationship is with Allah.
11:58Some people's relationship is with Buddha or this flower right here.
12:02Whatever it is, I feel like all religions, the root of them is supposed to make everyone be good human beings.
12:10And I want my partner to be rooted in being a good human being.
12:15It doesn't matter how much money we make.
12:17It doesn't matter what TV shows we're on or movie screens we're on.
12:20Like, we're still human beings.
12:22We will give back to our community.
12:24We will serve others.
12:25We will—I think the greatest gift that I'll ever be able to give to my family is a great last name.
12:33I think that's for any man.
12:34The greatest gift is not the house they live in, not the car that they drive.
12:38It's giving them a great last name so that when I'm long gone or I'm not anywhere in the spaces,
12:44I can pick up my phone and say, hey, my wife or, hey, my son wants to come to a Yankees game.
12:49Can you help him out?
12:50And because of my last name and because of things that I've built in a positive sense of being a great human being,
12:56those doors will continue to be opened.
12:58I feel like everyone wants—I'm like, you are a perfect man.
13:01I feel like the entire, like, house probably just ran to you.
13:04You really are.
13:06Yeah, that was so beautiful.
13:07I feel like you should, like, maybe also be a preacher or something.
13:09Like, I just put it back like a sermon in so many ways.
13:12Yeah, no, I speak a lot at churches and I speak a lot at different places.
13:16But I just know, you know, based on how I was brought into this world, and a lot of people have said that,
13:22you know, you should run for office, you should do this.
13:25Would you run for office?
13:26Absolutely not.
13:27Oh, I would vote for you.
13:28Well, you can keep that vote.
13:30Give it to somebody else.
13:32No, but I'm a product of a sexual assault.
13:34My mother was raped at 11 years old, had me at the age of 12.
13:38I was labeled a kid that would be dead or in jail by the time I was 16,
13:41and I was kind of headed that direction.
13:43And God had a different plan.
13:45He had a plan from the beginning, but I didn't know it.
13:48Nobody knew it.
13:49Nobody knew that I would be sitting right here, you know, in the studio at Page Six,
13:54talking with you guys and getting ready to, you know, go on a dating reality show.
13:59Nobody knew I would be in WWE.
14:01I didn't even know all this.
14:02Like, so how God has utilized me to, like, be in different spaces,
14:06accomplish things not for my own merit,
14:09but really to kind of help tell this story that God can use any of us.
14:14And that's what I do on a daily basis.
14:17I just let them use me.
14:19And if it's in word, if it's in thought, if it's in action,
14:23I'm 100% fine with that because I'm not looking to be right on anything.
14:31I just want to be obedient because obedience is greater than sacrifice.
14:34So there are a lot of things that people think that if I do this, you know,
14:38it's going to be a huge sacrifice.
14:40Well, if God leads me to do it,
14:42then the return on that investment is going to be 10,000 times over.
14:45So I'm not even worried about it.
14:47So if it sounds preachy or it sounds, you know, uh,
14:52It sounds good.
14:52It sounds beautiful.
14:53Yeah.
14:54It sounds that way because that's who I am at my core.
14:57I know that I'm chosen by God, um, because he could have easily,
15:02uh, my life could have easily gone a different direction.
15:05My mom was driven from St. Augustine, Florida, down to Boynton Beach, Florida,
15:09to have an abortion.
15:10She jumped out of the car.
15:11Months later, I was born.
15:12Wow.
15:12So if there was supposed to be a different path,
15:16I wouldn't be sitting here on this couch.
15:19Wow.
15:19That is an incredible story.
15:20I know.
15:20And I love that you kind of take all of that to show up for yourself
15:24and then for the people around you too,
15:25which I'm sure adds to the relationships you invest in.
15:29And it's, I feel kind of, you were saying you don't have a poker face,
15:31but I feel it's probably that,
15:34but also you know what you want and what you need to be doing what you're supposed to be doing.
15:40To be greater.
15:40I don't want anybody to take away my purpose.
15:46If I can, if I'm not going to do it myself,
15:48I'm not going to allow anyone in my stratosphere,
15:51whether it's someone I'm dating, my own children,
15:54like we all make decisions in life.
15:57And it is, it's important to me.
16:00I did, I broke every generational curse in my family.
16:03I'm the first person in my family to graduate from high school.
16:05First person in my family to graduate from college,
16:07to buy a house, to get married, to have children in wedlock,
16:11which is one of the reasons why, you know, once I went through my divorce,
16:15I'm like, I'm never doing this again.
16:16You know, so I made a decision to have a vasectomy in 2012
16:21because I felt like I'm never getting married again anyway.
16:25I'm not bringing in a kid into this world outside of wedlock.
16:27But, and that's the way I was brought into the world.
16:31Like, I was brought out not in love.
16:33Like, it was tragedy and trauma.
16:35And I didn't want to be responsible for a broken home, so.
16:38And before we let you go, because we could talk to you for so long,
16:41but you're a very busy guy.
16:42We thought, you're the highlight of our day,
16:43but we know you have a lot of other people to talk to.
16:45Yeah, I'm here for whatever.
16:47But I'm curious, because you said
16:48your marriage was not on the cards for you in the future.
16:52Again, has that changed?
16:53Like, when you're looking for a partner,
16:55are you looking just for a woman that you can, you know,
16:58connect with and build and everything like that,
17:00but not through marriage?
17:01Or would you want to add that?
17:02No, I want to be a husband.
17:03Okay.
17:04Yeah, I want to be a husband.
17:06I deserve to be a husband.
17:09I used to be like, I'm not worthy of being that one.
17:11But I was depression talking.
17:13And divorce, I would say to any and everybody out there,
17:16divorce is not death.
17:19It's actually an opportunity for you to regroup
17:21and regrow into something that's greater.
17:24And I'm just hoping that whether it's through this journey
17:28or parts of this journey,
17:30that I can, one, be a better human being
17:33for whoever that person is.
17:35And then, two, the ultimate end goal for me
17:38is to be a husband again.
17:39Well, I feel like you're going to hit that goal.
17:42Right, yeah.
17:43I feel like it's the end goal of many of these women
17:45on this show for you to be their husband.
17:47Yes, yes.
17:48Oh, my God.
17:49Thank you so much for taking the time to join us.
17:50Thanks for having us, and we're excited
17:51to see the rest of this show.
17:52Yeah.
17:52Yeah, I'm excited, too.
17:54I can wait to see you.
17:55Can't wait.
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