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00:04:29Wow.
00:04:31Carl Myers, like, he really doing it.
00:04:35Now, one of these years, I'm gonna go with you.
00:04:37No, my trip's on my own. You know that.
00:04:42Big Jim's going to Cali.
00:04:45Hey, if you see Jessica Alba,
00:04:47bang her for me.
00:04:49Hollywood.
00:04:50Take plenty of pictures.
00:04:52Go fuck yourself.
00:04:58I've been at Post One 15 years almost.
00:05:01I got job security.
00:05:04Mostly because no one wants my shift.
00:05:05Most guards hate it down here.
00:05:10Down here, you're vulnerable.
00:05:12Couple guards been robbed.
00:05:14Been two drive-by shootings.
00:05:17My old side's too lonely.
00:05:21They go nuts after a few weeks.
00:05:24But not me.
00:05:25I never get lonely.
00:05:27I love it down here.
00:05:34And this doctor, this little Jew fucker to court, made me see after I got out of the hospital.
00:05:39Said it wasn't no good me being alone too much.
00:05:41Said it was unhealthy.
00:05:47I thought it was full of shit.
00:05:50I mean, the world's all fucked up because nobody ever gets a chance to be alone anymore.
00:05:56You get your emails, answering machines, personal computers.
00:06:02You always got someone up your ass.
00:06:05Makes people crazy.
00:06:08You're not on that shit down at Post One.
00:06:11That's why I like it down here.
00:06:14It's quiet.
00:06:17Gives you plenty of think time.
00:06:41I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:42I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:43I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:44I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:45I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:46I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:47I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:48I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:49I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:50I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:51I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:52I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:53I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:54I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:55I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:56I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:57I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:58I'm not on that shit down here.
00:06:59I'm not on that shit down here.
00:07:00I'm not on that shit down here.
00:07:01The morning rush.
00:07:31A long line of people going to their deaths.
00:07:33Morning, sunshine.
00:07:35I know they hate their lives.
00:07:38We're all caught in the same trap.
00:07:40You, hey, hey, hey.
00:07:42Todd, you gotta get your window fixed.
00:07:44Come on, people aren't gonna think you have a job.
00:07:46Get out of here.
00:07:48They're all sluts.
00:07:50Drug addicts.
00:07:52Whore-mongers.
00:07:53Child molesters.
00:07:55I know they hate me.
00:07:57And they hate all the guards.
00:07:59Grumpy!
00:08:01Come on, Grumpy, get up here.
00:08:03Come on!
00:08:04I've been at this way too long not to know that.
00:08:06All right, have a great day.
00:08:08You see, they don't trust us.
00:08:10Look at you.
00:08:11You're the sunshine in my day.
00:08:13They think we're going through their desks and offices at night
00:08:15when they go home, and they're right.
00:08:17We are.
00:08:19We are worse than what they're paying us to keep out.
00:08:21So for 30 seconds each day, we all pretend we're buddies.
00:08:34There's a new book.
00:08:35Yeah?
00:08:36Every day this week, some of the onions.
00:08:39When's Petey getting back from the Lang City?
00:08:41Be back Friday.
00:08:44Degenerate gambler that he is.
00:08:46Packed yet?
00:08:48You know me, Ma.
00:08:50I've been packed for two weeks.
00:08:51California, right?
00:08:53Yeah.
00:08:54Little town called Hedicombe.
00:08:56It's in my farm country.
00:08:59Farm country?
00:09:00This guy was a, uh, mass murder arsonist.
00:09:05Oh, lovely, yeah.
00:09:06Fucking awesome.
00:09:07Oh, great.
00:09:08Carl Marsnap.
00:09:09He burned down a church in 68.
00:09:11Killed a bunch of people.
00:09:12What the hell's wrong with people?
00:09:14Well, this guy was gang raped as a kid.
00:09:20That'll fuck you up, Ma.
00:09:25I don't get what you do.
00:09:26Right.
00:09:27You know, it's...
00:09:29Very macabre to me.
00:09:32Yeah, macabre.
00:09:34What about those people that go to the grassy knoll?
00:09:36What about them?
00:09:38To see where Kennedy's head exploded.
00:09:40He was the president.
00:09:41And somehow, that's not weird.
00:09:44But what I do is.
00:09:49I don't know.
00:09:49Maybe you're right.
00:09:51I mean, I went to Graceland.
00:09:54Same thing.
00:09:55Same thing.
00:09:55He died in the shitter.
00:09:56He died in the shitter?
00:09:58Did they take pictures?
00:09:59Absolutely.
00:10:00No.
00:10:02I don't understand that.
00:10:10Virginia Tech?
00:10:16You always smell so good.
00:10:17Thank you, sweetie.
00:10:21Just take care of yourself.
00:10:24Make sure that wherever you're staying, you go down by the pool.
00:10:27Relax.
00:10:28All right.
00:10:30What do you want me to bring you back?
00:10:31I'll trust you.
00:10:34I'm going to get that sundae going for you.
00:10:38Just be careful.
00:10:39You never took me to ball games.
00:11:05Always cemeteries.
00:11:06Always cemeteries.
00:11:08You said they were peaceful.
00:11:11We hardly ever spoke.
00:11:13I didn't care.
00:11:14I just like being with you.
00:11:16You put something in my blood, Pop.
00:11:20You made me a grief tourist.
00:11:21Oh, my God.
00:11:22You're screwed.
00:11:26Proudly slapped the rain closed by the glass.
00:11:56As on it glided through the trees, still following with glee the lake called.
00:12:14Mr. Tana, the room is $49 a day, very clean.
00:12:32My sister-in-law overcleans themselves.
00:12:44I hope you got air conditioning.
00:12:46It's hot as hell out there.
00:12:48Yes.
00:12:49Yes, yes.
00:12:50Cool.
00:12:51Nice place at night.
00:12:53Good to hide.
00:12:55I'm on vacation.
00:13:02How long do you stay?
00:13:04Four nights.
00:13:09Got something about a pool?
00:13:11Here is your key, room 21.
00:13:13We have no pool, but it's good to look at the beautiful, pearly girls anyway.
00:13:18Enjoy.
00:13:19Enjoy.
00:13:48That place is a dump, but I like it.
00:14:12But I like it. It's cheap.
00:14:15There's better ways to spend your money on vacation than in a room you're hardly ever in.
00:14:41.
00:14:54Born in the rural community of Hiddichon, California, in 1918, Karl Marsnap began a lifelong
00:15:00odyssey of arson and murder while still only a child. Embedded by years of torture and sexual
00:15:06abuse at the hands of his alcoholic father, Marsnap evolved from a quiet and violent boy
00:15:11into a vicious killer.
00:15:14He murdered and burned his way across Ventura County
00:15:16on a mission of destruction.
00:15:17It was unlike anything law enforcement had ever seen before.
00:15:41At the age of 13, after numerous acts of arson,
00:15:44Marsnap was remanded to the infamous Grimes Reformatory,
00:15:48a facility known for its draconian punishments
00:15:52and ability to turn wayward boys into hardened criminals overnight.
00:16:12Lockdown dormitories.
00:16:18This is where they kept you.
00:16:28When you came to Grimes, you were full of rage for your parents.
00:16:32By the time you left,
00:16:34you were full of rage for the whole goddamn world.
00:16:42When you got here, some older boys pulled you screaming
00:16:45into the bathroom and knocked your teeth out
00:16:47so you couldn't bite them when they made you blow them.
00:16:50And they'll just beat you to death.
00:16:54You're just a little kid and nobody fucking helped you.
00:17:11Okay.
00:17:16Here's your lovely dinner.
00:17:18Chicken and a burger.
00:17:20Cheeseburger.
00:17:24Well, I guess you must have really liked that.
00:17:29You should polish that off in a hurry.
00:17:34Uh, yeah.
00:17:35My father.
00:17:37He always said life's short, so, uh, eat quick.
00:17:41Without indigestion.
00:17:44Okay.
00:17:46Can I get you some dessert?
00:17:48Yeah.
00:17:49Yeah?
00:17:50I think there was something...
00:17:54It's at the Ventura volcano.
00:17:57Okay.
00:17:58Sounds like suicide by dessert.
00:17:59It is.
00:18:00I hope you got room for it.
00:18:01Oh, I always got room.
00:18:03I am a bottomless void.
00:18:05Oh, you know what?
00:18:07That guy was one of our more notorious citizens.
00:18:11You want some more coffee?
00:18:13Uh, sure.
00:18:14Yeah?
00:18:15Okay.
00:18:16I'll be back.
00:18:17Um, un volcano.
00:18:18Okay.
00:18:19Por favor.
00:18:20Can I get a whiskey down and fry?
00:18:21I was in the, uh, bookstore up the street and I saw this.
00:18:22I never heard of him.
00:18:23Figured I'm here.
00:18:24I might as well.
00:18:25Seems interesting.
00:18:26Oh, yeah.
00:18:27He was interesting, all right.
00:18:28You know, we get a lot of people coming through here, going to the places where he killed people.
00:18:30And also, the teenagers like to go to that shack where he kills himself.
00:18:34You know, I don't get it why people like to go to those places. I mean, what kind of sick thrill do they get by doing it?
00:18:39You know?
00:18:40I don't know about those things.
00:18:41No.
00:18:42I do know that people like to go to Ground Zero.
00:18:43Yeah, I know.
00:18:44I think that's really sick, too.
00:18:45Hey.
00:18:46Hey.
00:18:47Hey.
00:18:48Hey.
00:18:49Hey.
00:18:50Hey.
00:18:51Hey.
00:18:52Hey.
00:18:53Hey.
00:18:54Hey.
00:18:55Hey.
00:18:56Hey.
00:18:57Hey.
00:18:58Hey.
00:18:59Hey.
00:19:00Hey.
00:19:01Hey.
00:19:02Hey.
00:19:03Hey.
00:19:04Hey.
00:19:05Hey.
00:19:06Hey.
00:19:07Hey.
00:19:08Hey.
00:19:09Hey, you should come back for breakfast because it's much better than our dinners, okay?
00:19:14I'm going to go get your sundae.
00:19:19Thanks.
00:19:20Okay.
00:19:21You should go back for breakfast because it's much better than our dinners, okay?
00:19:22I'm gonna go get your sundae.
00:19:35Call me when you get to Walnut and Herbs, alright?
00:19:55No.
00:19:56No.
00:19:57Walnut and Herbs.
00:20:00E-R-B-E-S.
00:20:03Go in baby, I'll be right there.
00:20:10Hold on.
00:20:13Go in, I'll be right there.
00:20:16Just let me finish this.
00:20:20That's my door.
00:20:23Oh, this is yours?
00:20:26I thought you were someone else.
00:20:29Sorry.
00:20:30Alright.
00:20:31Call me when you get there, Papa, and then I'll give you my address.
00:20:36Later.
00:20:37You Section 8?
00:20:38Excuse me?
00:20:39You Section 8 housing, or are you right?
00:20:43Visiting.
00:20:44I'm just visiting.
00:20:46Oh.
00:20:47Okay.
00:20:48Later.
00:20:49I'll just visit.
00:20:51Oh.
00:20:52Okay.
00:20:53Later.
00:20:54Worse.
00:20:55This place is teaming with him.
00:21:09Love these preachers.
00:21:22Carl's father was one of these born-agains.
00:21:28Tomorrow I go to the ranch to see where this man of God tortured his son.
00:21:36The spot where Carl killed for the first time.
00:21:41His most intimate place.
00:21:44Tomorrow the tables turn.
00:21:48And I haunt you, Carl.
00:21:51I'm going to go out.
00:22:11I was at the modest family home in Hedicombe where Carl's father would tie him to a bed
00:22:31and beat him viciously with a razor's drop, sometimes burning his genitals with lit candles
00:22:38and cigars as punishment for minor behavioural offences.
00:22:43Carl's nap would begin his murderous spree at the family home on a warm September night
00:22:46in 1932.
00:22:47At the age of 14, he would bludgeon his parents to death with a hammer while they slept, doused
00:22:54their bodies with gasoline and set the stalks for a blaze, called that night he murdered
00:22:58his parents in the most thrilling event in his life.
00:23:02Hedicombe had been so excited by the sight of his parents burning that he ejaculated for
00:23:09the first time.
00:23:10Carl, Carl, Carl.
00:23:14Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl.
00:23:22Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl.
00:23:31You had no remorse for what you did, did you, Carl?
00:24:01Of course you didn't, you used to say you didn't even know what remorse felt like, how could you, after what they did to you?
00:24:31What did you do, Carl?
00:24:50What did you do, Carl?
00:25:09What the fuck happened to me out there?
00:25:37Fuck, I hope all the shit isn't starting up again.
00:25:44I'm not fucking down, I'm not here.
00:26:07Why is it always like this when I split town?
00:26:14God, what is it about a man being alone and how to tell everyone that makes him wanna just do the most depraved shit?
00:26:22That's fucking whore working under the room next door.
00:26:29That's fucking whore working under the room next door.
00:26:42The devil is just tempting me.
00:26:48That's one of them itches.
00:26:49The more you scratch it, the more it fucking itches.
00:26:53The more you scratch it, the more you scratch it, the more you scratch it, the more you scratch it.
00:27:02In 1961, after a five year spree of arson and murder, Marsnap goes in an extended cooling off period.
00:27:08In 1964, he begins setting fires again but writes that it did little to get rid of the rage he felt towards the church.
00:27:19It and its congregation would have to be punished.
00:27:40The more you scratch it, the more you scratch it, the more you scratch.
00:27:43Are there you break them down here?
00:27:52The more you scratch it there, the more you scratch it, the more you scratch it and the more you f***ed
00:27:58The more late you take a ton of your death, the more you scratch it and the more you scratch your sirs.
00:28:00I said, mine was welcome again.
00:28:02The more you city that일 the more you october understand your son the most important thing
00:28:05to protect your son.
00:28:06Investionitt.
00:28:07Wow.
00:28:08Save the 10th or here.
00:28:09Maybe I should change rooms.
00:28:15I don't like being next to that filthiness.
00:28:26It's not good for me.
00:28:31So you took my advice and you came back for breakfast?
00:28:37Hey, are you okay?
00:28:38Yeah, um, my sister.
00:28:47She's only 28.
00:28:48She was just diagnosed with cancer.
00:28:51They've given her three months tops.
00:28:53Oh, Lord.
00:28:55I'm so sorry.
00:29:04I lost my husband about a few years ago.
00:29:07And, um...
00:29:13I thought it was gonna kill me.
00:29:15But it gets better.
00:29:17Sorry for your loss.
00:29:23Excuse me, ma'am.
00:29:25Um, I'll be right there, okay?
00:29:27Goddamn.
00:29:29Can I get you anything?
00:29:33Can I get you anything?
00:29:40No.
00:29:41No.
00:29:43Okay.
00:29:45I'm a, uh, friend of Bill W.'s.
00:29:55I saw you, Nicholas.
00:29:56There might be a meeting tonight.
00:29:58Yeah, there's one at the community church at 8 o'clock.
00:30:02That's on Pauley Street.
00:30:04Uh...
00:30:05I'm Carl.
00:30:06Hi, Carl.
00:30:10I'm Betsy.
00:30:12Hi, Carl.
00:30:14I'm Betsy.
00:30:15Okay.
00:30:16I'm gonna get you some coffee, okay?
00:30:18Seems like a nice person.
00:30:22Shouldn't have lied to her.
00:30:24But the truth has never gotten me anywhere.
00:30:26So what if I don't have a sister?
00:30:27That's not important.
00:30:28The bottom line is, I got pain.
00:30:30I got pain.
00:30:31I got pain.
00:30:32I got pain.
00:30:33I got pain.
00:30:34I got pain.
00:30:35I got pain.
00:30:36I got pain.
00:30:37I got pain.
00:30:38I got pain.
00:30:39I got pain.
00:30:40I got pain.
00:30:41I got pain.
00:30:42I got pain.
00:30:43So what if I don't have a sister?
00:30:44That's not important.
00:30:45The bottom line is, I got pain.
00:30:48I got pain and she's got pain.
00:30:51The important thing is that grief touched.
00:30:53April 14th, 1968, your masterpiece.
00:31:17I can feel you.
00:31:35Where are you?
00:31:47There was only three doors, you know?
00:32:09There was that one there.
00:32:17There's these two here.
00:32:29Took me two minutes to lock them all in here.
00:32:44I had it fully burning.
00:32:47And eight.
00:32:57Most of them, they, they trampled each other's in the panic.
00:33:09My old man, he was one of the church elders.
00:33:17Everybody knew what he was doing to me.
00:33:33Everybody knew what he was doing to me.
00:33:39I love crime that he wanted to be a hero.
00:33:42But nobody helped me a shit.
00:33:49Mm.
00:33:51Mm.
00:33:55I taught all these phony sons of bitches what being a victim felt like.
00:34:01I thought it all these phony sons of bitches what being a victim felt like.
00:34:05I think it's time that you taught someone that sermon.
00:34:35I think it's time that you taught someone that sermon.
00:35:05There was a man and he was sprawled out on the bed naked.
00:35:20We had had sex.
00:35:22I was still so drunk, I called my husband, I gave him the address, she came and got me.
00:35:34That was my bottom.
00:35:37I cried for about three weeks after he left.
00:35:43He took my kids with him.
00:35:46But somehow I found a room, August 5th, 1998.
00:35:52I'm one of the lucky ones.
00:35:55We're all lucky.
00:35:57We've all found rooms.
00:35:58And he was on the couch.
00:36:04And he had been watching a ball game.
00:36:12Arithmogenic right ventricular dysplasia.
00:36:16The first symptom of that is sudden death.
00:36:20He was a vegetarian.
00:36:24He was a runner.
00:36:26He was in perfect health.
00:36:30He was dead at 45, just like that.
00:36:40And it's been four years.
00:36:42But it feels like it was yesterday and I think I'm actually more distraught now than I was then.
00:36:59I mean, at least then I was in shock, you know, and now the pain just never goes away.
00:37:17So I know what you're going through, Carl.
00:37:23I'm sorry.
00:37:30It's okay.
00:37:35I'm glad you came to the meeting.
00:37:43I needed, uh, I don't know, lately I can't, I don't know what's going on, I just, I don't even know what's real.
00:38:08I know, I feel like that too.
00:38:13Sometimes I don't know whether I'm coming or I'm going, but I fight through it and I go to a meeting.
00:38:28Because in the end, Carl, the only thing that's real is right now, this, you know, connecting with people.
00:38:41I thank God for my job.
00:38:45I thank God for these meetings.
00:38:48Because without them, I'm not sure what I would do.
00:39:02Anyway, I haven't even asked you where you're from.
00:39:06Where are you from, Carl?
00:39:09I don't know.
00:39:12I'm from Yonkers.
00:39:15It's in New York.
00:39:17Oh.
00:39:18Is it nice?
00:39:23No.
00:39:24No?
00:39:25No.
00:39:30No.
00:39:31It's, uh, it's not nice.
00:39:34It's, uh, Johnkers.
00:39:43So are you here on business or are you just passing through?
00:39:51I mean, I say that because Hedicombe is the kind of place that you just go through, not to, you know?
00:40:08You smell good.
00:40:10I'm hungry.
00:40:11So what do you do?
00:40:24I'm a security guard.
00:40:26What else?
00:40:27What do you want to know?
00:40:29What songs do you like?
00:40:31Um.
00:40:32Poker.
00:40:33Music.
00:40:34Okay.
00:40:35You laugh a lot.
00:40:36I know.
00:40:37I'm sorry.
00:40:38Why are you sorry?
00:40:39You're beautiful when you laugh.
00:40:41Suzanne takes you down to her place near the river.
00:40:46You can hear the boats go by and you can spend the night beside her.
00:40:51And you know that she's half crazy.
00:40:52But that's why you want to be there.
00:40:53And she feeds you tea and...
00:40:54Oh, WT.
00:40:55Oh, no.
00:40:56No.
00:40:57No.
00:40:58No.
00:40:59No.
00:41:00No.
00:41:01No.
00:41:02No.
00:41:03No.
00:41:04No.
00:41:05No.
00:41:06No.
00:41:07No.
00:41:08No.
00:41:09No.
00:41:10No.
00:41:11No.
00:41:12No.
00:41:13No.
00:41:14No.
00:41:15No.
00:41:16No.
00:41:17No.
00:41:18No.
00:41:19Nothing.
00:41:20Oh.
00:41:21What about your recovery?
00:41:26One bite at a time.
00:41:29Sorry.
00:41:30It's very strong!
00:41:43You like?
00:41:46No.
00:41:47Oh.
00:41:48Oh, I do.
00:42:48What is wrong with you, Carl?
00:42:50Fucking don't call me that!
00:42:52You don't fucking know me!
00:42:56Fucking little bitch, Jesus Christ.
00:42:58Jesus Christ.
00:43:28Everyone's first property.
00:43:32I'm curious, diez.'
00:43:36You're welcome.
00:43:42You're welcome, so he's heard today.
00:43:46Divine family is bananas.
00:43:48Real women don't get your nut off anymore.
00:44:07I know the feeling.
00:44:12It's poisoning you there.
00:44:15It's sick, so...
00:44:17...backed up, infected, got to come out.
00:44:26But you always let me build up.
00:44:31No good.
00:44:41Go ahead, bud.
00:44:43Get it out.
00:44:51Knock.
00:44:53Knock on that door there.
00:44:55Get in there, Timmy.
00:45:08Get in there, Timmy.
00:45:11Get in there, Timmy.
00:45:14Mm-hmm.
00:45:15Hey.
00:45:27You know what I am?
00:45:29You know, you're supposed to make an appointment first.
00:45:36But...
00:45:37Since we need this, I can squeeze you in.
00:45:42Yes.
00:45:42I can squeeze you in.
00:45:44You know what you do.
00:45:46I can't keep it up.
00:45:47I can't keep it up.
00:45:48You will be on the phone, too.
00:45:51Tom called to well gay.
00:45:53I can't keep it up.
00:45:54You'll be on the phone.
00:45:56Okay, I can't keep it up.
00:45:57No, I can't keep it up.
00:45:58Oh, yeah.
00:45:58Okay, I can't keep it up.
00:46:00I can't keep it up.
00:46:02Once it's lit, the spark will fire.
00:46:06Kiss me.
00:46:10I don't, um...
00:46:13You a cop, asshole?
00:46:18No.
00:46:20Then give me a kiss, or get out.
00:46:22From shadow, I can't run away, from yesterday.
00:46:37On the neck, not the mouth.
00:46:40I love the way you down, pin your back against the wall.
00:46:52Cops ain't allowed to touch.
00:46:55Cops ain't allowed to touch.
00:47:17What's that?
00:47:18What's that?
00:47:20From yesterday
00:47:23Just can't hide away
00:47:28From shadow
00:47:33Oh, I can't run away
00:47:36Oh, I can't run away
00:47:40Oh, I can't run away
00:47:42Run away
00:47:44Oh, I can't run away
00:47:50Motherfuckers.
00:47:52They ruined me.
00:47:55Those fucking kids broke everything
00:47:59I know, Jimmy
00:48:02I know
00:48:04They broke me, too
00:48:06Why didn't they fix me?
00:48:10They could have fixed me
00:48:12I was just a kid
00:48:14I could not even try
00:48:15It's too fucking late
00:48:19I know, Jimmy
00:48:23There ain't a soul alive on this miserable planet
00:48:28That don't know how to break shit up
00:48:31Pound it into powder
00:48:33Like they did to you and me
00:48:37Yeah
00:48:41We closer than kin that way
00:48:53There's nothing left
00:49:01What's wrong with what's wrong with you?
00:49:03Yeah
00:49:05Taba
00:50:39Um, I know that we were both a little high.
00:50:49And sometimes people get weird.
00:50:51And I just wanted to say that if I made you feel uncomfortable or if I came on too strong, I'm sorry.
00:51:03I guess I'm going to let my sense of hospitality just get away from me.
00:51:12But it's just because I really like you.
00:51:15You're disgusting.
00:51:23Let's hear you.
00:51:36Let's hear you.
00:51:39Let's hear you.
00:52:09Let's hear you.
00:52:39Let's hear you.
00:53:09I'm coming up to visit you this weekend and we can go to Six Flags, okay?
00:53:17I love you, Cookie.
00:53:19Have a great day.
00:53:21Love you.
00:53:23Bye.
00:53:24Bye.
00:53:25Bye.
00:53:26Bye.
00:53:29Bye.
00:53:30Bye.
00:53:31Bye.
00:53:32Bye.
00:53:33Bye.
00:53:34Bye.
00:53:35Bye.
00:53:36Bye.
00:53:37Bye.
00:53:38Bye.
00:53:39Bye.
00:53:40Bye.
00:53:41Bye.
00:53:42Bye.
00:53:43Lest we forget, lest we forget the tumult and the shouting die, the captains and the kings...
00:53:54What about me?
00:54:24Fuck you!
00:54:40It was an accident, huh? Me ending up in the room next door to you?
00:54:47It was an accident. It's him. It's God. Fuck it with me again!
00:54:54I didn't ask for this shit! You made those kids do that to me!
00:54:59Fuck you!
00:55:24Fuck you!
00:55:27Fuck you!
00:55:29Fuck you!
00:55:30Fuck you!
00:55:31Fuck you!
00:55:32Fuck you!
00:55:34Fuck you!
00:55:36Fuck you!
00:55:38Fuck you!
00:55:40This is what it's like to be a victim!
00:55:44This is what it's like to be a victim.
00:56:14This is what it's like to be a victim.
00:56:44Well, you preach the sermon.
00:57:14What did it feel like?
00:57:39You only got about 40 seconds once you cut it.
00:57:46I just close my eyes.
00:57:51Ain't gotta do nothing but be there.
00:57:55I feel like an engine with a million miles on it.
00:58:00That's how it is to you.
00:58:06That is the true telling of a thing like this.
00:58:12That's how it is.
00:58:21That's how it is.
00:58:30We are getting breaking news from our affiliate in California.
00:58:41We're going to correspond to Rachel Martin in Ventura County.
00:58:44Rachel?
00:58:45Law enforcement have worked at bringing to justice a killer who has been preying on and murdering six transsexual prostitutes.
00:58:54Police have begun a statewide manhunt for this man, James Tana.
00:59:01Police have searched the man's room and they think they have the name of someone they are now calling a person of interest.
00:59:10Police say they have witnesses who say they saw a man badly being a prostitute at a nearby motel and put her in the trunk of his car.
00:59:17The grief tourist moniker comes from the fact that the killer had left the bodies at the murder sites of other serial killers, even leaving behind a picture of the other killers as sort of a signature.
00:59:29While the grief tourist seems to have struck again.
00:59:34This spot, the church behind me, is significant because it was the site of what locals call the Seventh-day Adventist Church Massacre, which refers to a church which was burned down by infamous mass murderer Karl Marsnap in 1968.
00:59:47The people that, they come here to see this.
01:00:02Now, people's gonna come here to see the spot where you was.
01:00:09They come here to see me.
01:00:11They're gonna come to the hotel room.
01:00:14My hotel room.
01:00:15The spot where you killed it.
01:00:18The spot where I killed the whore.
01:00:20I'm gonna go to the spot where I worked.
01:00:23They're gonna go to the spot where I worked.
01:00:29And they're gonna wanna know everything about me.
01:00:32The spot where I was, let her meet…
01:00:34...awful...
01:02:15But you got all to say about the way it's going to end.
01:02:22Yeah.
01:02:27When they think of Jim Tunner, they're going to fear him.
01:02:32They're not going to think of the victim he was.
01:02:37They're going to think of the victims he made.
01:02:42Yeah.
01:02:47That's it, Jim.
01:02:48It's all over now.
01:02:59Yeah.
01:03:04Yeah.
01:03:08We're talking this morning about this ton of guy they found out there in California.
01:03:35I think it's very clear that Tana and Marsnap were both victims of abuse and this is what's possible when the victims of abuse do not receive some people are looking at this as a hate crime you know he's hating somebody means killing somebody so the people think it's a hate crime you know whatever it doesn't matter with you.
01:04:05It's very very freaky being here.
01:04:10It's like you can feel him.
01:04:12His energy.
01:04:14It's wild.
01:04:17My hair is standing up.
01:04:19I love it.
01:04:49It's wild.
01:04:50My hair is standing up.
01:04:52It's wild.
01:04:53It's a good ride.
01:04:54It's wild.
01:04:55It's a good ride.
01:04:56It's for three years.
01:04:57It's wild.
01:04:58It's wild.
01:04:59It's wild.
01:05:00It's wild.
01:05:01It's wild.
01:05:02It's wild.
01:05:03It's wild.
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