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Step into the unknown with The Alien Perspective 2025 — a mind‑bending exploration of how extraterrestrial intelligence might view humanity, our planet, and the choices shaping our future. 🌍👽

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00:00Hey, Kevin?

00:25Yes, hello.

00:26Hi, come on in.

00:27All right, here's the package.

00:32So, what do you know about the history of this?

00:36I know that it is supposedly from a crash site in New Mexico from the St. Augustine Plains.

00:45It happened in 1947 within weeks of the supposed Roswell crash.

00:52If this is just debris from an airplane crash, then it's not that valuable or not that interesting.

00:57But if it turns out that it's a debris from a crashed UFO or a crashed alien spacecraft or whatever it might be, then it's invaluable.

01:05So, it's priceless.

01:07So, we have these weird handoffs, these Cloaker and Dagger style handoffs, which admittedly are fun and relatively amusing and a bit worrisome because I don't know that other people aren't tracking this,

01:25that other people wouldn't like to have it, that somebody might try to get it from you, and, you know, we don't know that that's not the case.

01:31I mean, I'm a physics professor.

01:35We don't operate this way, and I don't know how, you know, whether there are other groups or other countries that would like to get their hands on this that, you know, might go through some, you know, movie-style lengths to do it.

01:50We don't operate this way.

02:20We don't operate this way.

02:23We don't operate this way.

02:24We don't operate this way.

02:26We don't force people to do it.

02:27We don't execute it.

02:30And if it turns out the Strandling Stack, it's barely free.

02:34I played by heavens .

02:38You know what?

03:40Most science documentaries look at an encounter with extraterrestrial civilization from our point of view.

03:48But let's turn it upside down.

03:50What would it be like if you were part of an advanced civilization meeting Earthlings for the first time?

03:57Well, place myself in the persona of an alien being and saying, here we are, we come in peace, you know, that's certainly something I would hope.

04:08If aliens are intelligent, they're also curious. And that curiosity is going to force them to go out and examine everything they have access to, which could include us.

04:19And if I'm a being, I'm choosing people who can convey my message in a way that would leave very little doubt.

04:30Why would they need to have such extensive direct interactions with us when everything that they could possibly need from us, they could take without really having to expose themselves at all?

04:41We wouldn't really even need to know about their existence.

04:43The fact that we do would indicate that they are whatever they are, wanting us to think in a particular way, probably more about ourselves than about them.

04:52We wouldn't really need to know about ourselves.

05:22And I'm the deputy project scientist for NASA's test mission.

05:25This is the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite.

05:28This is a space mission looking for planets outside of our solar system, including those that are small like Earth.

05:34Ultimately, we're looking for planets that are in a Goldilocks zone, so they're not too close to their star where it's very hot.

05:41They're also not too far away where it's very cold.

05:44They're in a temperate region, just like Earth is around the sun.

05:47They're in a region that would allow liquid water on a planet's surface.

05:50Using this transit method, we can determine the size of a planet, its orbit, and we can ultimately determine which planets are in the habitable zones of these stars.

06:01So in the early days of searching for other planets, we were really focusing on sun-like stars.

06:07What we now know is that the most common type of star that has planets are these M dwarfs.

06:12So these are stars that are smaller, cooler, and redder than the sun.

06:16And they emit different light.

06:19So they emit light in the infrared.

06:21They're very, very different from the sun.

06:23Planets that evolve in the habitable zones of these stars will have a very different environment.

06:27I often wonder what kind of life would evolve under infrared light.

06:32What is photosynthesis like?

06:34We have these green plants that evolve under the sun.

06:37Will we have black trees?

06:39Or will we have some new form of life that we can't even imagine that are forming on these stars that are the most abundant in the sky?

06:45A huge goal of NASA is to find another Earth-like planet that could have life, even intelligent life.

06:53My name is Michel Vizeau.

07:07I am responsible for the exobiology program at CNES, the French space agency.

07:13In my career, I was involved in first in the volatilité projects,

07:17since I was selected as an astronaut by the CNES in 1985.

07:21Comment peut-on imaginer une forme de vie extraterrestre ?

07:29Les chimistes, les biochimistes, les biologistes, après avoir étudié beaucoup d'hypothèses,

07:36sont à peu près tous d'accord que la vie sera à base de carbone, d'hydrogène, d'oxygène, d'azote, de phosphore, de soufre et d'une dizaine d'autres éléments.

07:47Mais on sera obligatoirement surpris.

07:50On peut se préparer à beaucoup de choses, on peut faire beaucoup d'hypothèses,

07:54mais dans tous les cas, ça sera antinomique de tout ce à quoi on aura pensé.

08:01Ça sera forcément différent.

08:04Il se trouve que les ressorts aléatoires de l'évolution sont beaucoup plus imaginatifs, entre guillemets,

08:12que ne peuvent l'être nos petits cerveaux.

08:14Je pense qu'il serait fascinant si nous trouvons une vie intelligente qui est très différente de nous.

08:19Une vie où nous pouvons apprendre et vraiment avancer nous-mêmes.

08:23Donc, qu'est-ce qui est l'ultime goal ici ?

08:26Once the generational program down the road finds that there not only is life there,

08:30but there's a civilisation there, what happens next ?

08:34That's a really good question.

08:35Everyone is so focused on building the next flagship that's going to image the Earth.

08:41And then what ?

08:42So, if we find life on another planet, what are the next steps that NASA's going to do ?

08:52What are the next steps that the community is going to do ?

08:54Should we contact and communicate with these other planets ?

08:59And that is a whole new discussion area that people are actually talking about.

09:05And I don't know what the next steps would be.

09:07The SETI Institute does have a procedure for if they were to find life.

09:11They actually have, you know, a manual.

09:13There's a proper procedure of writing a publication and what should we do next ?

09:18Because I'm involved in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence,

09:24people will ask, do you really think there are aliens out there ?

09:27I mean, do you think there's any life out there ?

09:29And of course I do.

09:30I mean, that's why I took the job, really.

09:32And why do I think that ?

09:33It's not because we've found it, because we haven't.

09:35But, what we now know, and something that we didn't know even 25 years ago,

09:39is that the universe is just chock-a-block with planets.

09:43There are roughly a trillion planets just in the Milky Way galaxy.

09:47And we can see trillions of other galaxies.

09:49So, that's a lot of planet pleasure, right ?

09:51There are so many worlds out there that to think that,

09:54well, no, only Earth has produced life or intelligent life,

09:58that sounds like a lot of hubris to me.

10:01Turns out that the techniques used for studying galaxies,

10:05which is what I used to do, SETI,

10:07uses many of the same techniques that I was using to study galaxies.

10:10In other words, you know, big antennas, call them radio telescopes,

10:14and just point them in the direction of some nearby stars,

10:17hoping that there's somebody on the planet around those stars

10:19who's broadcasting a signal that we could pick up

10:22and prove that we have some company there.

10:24So, what if we get a signal?

10:26I mean, we might get a signal from deep space tomorrow,

10:29next week, next year, ten years from now, we don't know.

10:32But what happens?

10:33I can tell you what's really going to happen,

10:34because we've had false alarms.

10:36And in a false alarm, you see what actually happens.

10:38The media start calling up, because there's no policy of secrecy.

10:41Everybody's sending emails or text messages

10:44or calling their mom or whatever they're doing.

10:46So, the news that we picked up a signal gets out within minutes.

10:49And the experience that we've had is when that happens,

10:52even before we've checked out whether it's for real or not,

10:55the local TV stations, the newspapers, and the media start calling.

10:59Scientists have a mystery on their hands.

11:02Signals from outer space are being detected.

11:04What's most exciting about this signal from outer space

11:07is that it repeats itself every 16 days.

11:10If the signal's strong enough, some believe,

11:12to raise the possibility that it was sent intentionally by aliens.

11:15One radio burst's wavelength light was converted to sound.

11:22So, if I were an alien, how would I find intelligent life on Earth?

11:26Or, for that matter, any life on Earth?

11:28Now, finding life is kind of a simpler problem for the aliens

11:31than finding intelligent life,

11:33because all they have to do is build a big telescope

11:36and analyze the atmosphere of our planet, of Earth.

11:40And they would find, gee, 20% of that atmosphere is oxygen.

11:43And, normally, that's not a component of the gases

11:46in the atmosphere of planets, but it is of ours.

11:50So, if the aliens can find oxygen in our atmosphere,

11:52that would be a strong clue that there's some sort of biology here,

11:55at least photosynthesis.

11:57That wouldn't tell them that Homo sapiens is here, of course,

12:00but what would is if they can build big antennas

12:03and pick up our television or our radars or our FM radio,

12:08because if there's been enough time for those signals to get out to them,

12:11they'll pick that up and they'll say,

12:12well, we don't know what's down there,

12:13but whatever it is, it's pretty clever,

12:15because they can engineer a transmitter.

12:18For a long time, I banged my head against the wall,

12:37looking for a theory of consciousness in purely physical terms

12:41that would work.

12:44I'm David Chalmers.

12:46I'm a professor of philosophy at New York University.

12:49I'm also co-director of the Center for Mind, Brain and Consciousness.

12:54I'm a philosopher, so I think about foundational ideas

12:58about the mind, about the world, about knowledge, about reality.

13:03How is the human mind even possible?

13:05I think about artificial minds.

13:07Could a computer have a mind?

13:09Are there non-human minds in animals or even alien minds?

13:13I think about the nature of reality.

13:15Is the world around us real?

13:17How can we ever have genuine knowledge of reality?

13:20Or is all this somehow an illusion or a simulation?

13:24The simulation hypothesis is simply the hypothesis

13:30that we live in a computer simulation.

13:33To be understood in a literal sense,

13:35not just as a metaphor, we can think of atoms as bits.

13:39No, that there is some advanced civilization

13:42that constructed a physical computer

13:45and then runs some kind of program on that computer,

13:48and we are one of the information patterns within that.

13:52The venerable philosopher René Descartes said,

13:55how do you know that you're not being fooled by an evil genius

13:59who is stimulating your sensory systems

14:01to produce the sense of a world around you

14:04when none of this is real?

14:06Well, the contemporary version of that question

14:08is just how do you know you're not in a computer simulation right now

14:12where all this would seem real, but it isn't.

14:15The simulation hypothesis does not mean to presuppose

14:19that the civilization doing the simulating

14:23would necessarily be our descendant.

14:26Like, they wouldn't have to be on Earth.

14:28You could imagine extraterrestrial civilizations

14:30creating all kinds of simulations

14:32of other extraterrestrial civilizations

14:34of their origins, or maybe just fantasy simulations.

14:39For me, I got into this in part because 20-odd years ago,

14:42just after The Matrix movie came out,

14:44the Wachowskis, who directed The Matrix, were into philosophy,

14:47and they actually signed up a bunch of philosophers

14:50to write philosophically about the movie.

14:52So I ended up writing an article called

14:54The Matrix as Metaphysics.

14:56And the central idea was even if we are living in The Matrix,

14:59all this is still perfectly real.

15:02So it would be unlike The Matrix in the sense that

15:05the brain itself would be part of the simulation as well.

15:11That would be the most cost-efficient way

15:13of producing human experience,

15:14not to have these biological organic brains

15:17floating in nutrient tanks

15:19and then connecting them via some cable to a virtual reality,

15:22but just simulate the whole thing.

15:24You could run many more simulations

15:26for the same amount of dollars

15:28as technological maturity if you did it all in silica

15:31than if you had this wetware component in there as well.

15:34The traditional idea has been that

15:36if we're in a simulation, none of this is real.

15:39I think I have hands, I think there's a table here,

15:42I think there's a sculpture here.

15:45Many people would say that if this is a simulation,

15:48none of that is genuinely real.

15:58What I want to say is even if we're in a simulation,

16:00all this is real.

16:01I still have hands, there's still a table here,

16:04there's still a sculpture here.

16:06It's just that all these things are made

16:08at a more fundamental level out of bits,

16:11out of processes inside a computer.

16:13But digital processes are real processes too.

16:16So I want to say simulation is reality.

16:19We don't know that much about the motivations

16:23or the psychology of these possible simulators,

16:26but we can reflect that if there are many of these civilizations

16:29out in the cosmos with the capability of running simulations,

16:33it would suffice if only a few of them

16:35were still interested in doing this

16:37with even just a small fraction of their resources.

16:40As soon as you start thinking about the simulation idea,

16:44the question comes up, who created the simulation?

16:48Is it a god?

16:49I mean, this simulator is a created reality,

16:53they're all-powerful and all-knowing maybe about this reality

16:56that makes them kind of godlike.

16:58At the same time, the simulator needn't be much like a god at all.

17:02It might just be a teenage hacker in the next universe up,

17:05but 26-dimensional octopus slipped from an entirely different reality.

17:10No reason at all to think they're particularly godly.

17:12I'm Dr. Michael Masters, I'm a professor of biological anthropology.

17:28I should probably list where I do that, huh? Yeah.

17:33And author of the book, Identified Flying Objects.

17:37Leading up to now, we've seen a lot of different theories proposed.

17:42It's important to consider all of these,

17:44and it's great to see that evolution of this field,

17:47where it's not just blind acceptance of one idea,

17:50but we're asking questions,

17:51and we're really trying to dig deep into the subject matter

17:54and to figure out the origins of these individuals and their craft.

17:58Obviously, the dominant model for a long time

18:00has been the extraterrestrial hypothesis,

18:02that they come from a different planet,

18:04somewhere else around a different solar system,

18:07likely within our galaxy.

18:09We see them coming down from the sky.

18:11Our first gut response would be,

18:13they must come from those stars.

18:14But if we look at all of their characteristics,

18:17the craft themselves appear to have many qualities

18:20that would indicate that they have the capability

18:22of bending back time.

18:24Perhaps it's time to consider other possibilities,

18:26and that they are, in fact, from time rather than space.

18:30In quantum mechanics and in general relativity,

18:33there were phenomena that we couldn't fully understand

18:36and characterize.

18:37Now we have the math to describe it.

18:39Now we have the physics,

18:40and it's no longer scary to conceptualize time dilation

18:45or the double slit experiment.

18:46We have math that can predict, essentially,

18:49what the distribution of, say, a particle will be like.

18:53Many reports of these fast-moving objects

18:55is that they sort of almost pulsate,

18:57or there's a fluctuation to them as they move,

19:00possibly skipping through parts of time

19:03as they move through space.

19:05And looking at the craft themselves,

19:06and especially the inertial forces,

19:08if they're, as we see them,

19:10rapidly shooting across the sky,

19:12any sort of inertial movement like that

19:16is going to splatter any biological creature

19:18against that craft.

19:20The one hint that I believe helps us

19:23in trying to figure out this mystery

19:25is that I believe at least no biological entity

19:28would be able to cross such vast distances.

19:30They would, at the very least, require tons of food.

19:33They would require bathrooms.

19:35They would have to require a gravity environment

19:38that's the same as their home world.

19:40There would be so many nuances.

19:42There would be long-distance times of hundreds of years,

19:45maybe even thousands or tens of thousands.

19:47The only possible way they might be able to do this

19:49to survive those forces

19:51is by controlling the passage of time

19:54in their relative reference frame inside that craft.

19:57Whereas we see a rapid acceleration,

19:59it may be a very slow acceleration to them.

20:02A great analogy is looking at

20:04how different organisms perceive time.

20:07So when we try to swat a fly,

20:09we see it as this fly swatter

20:11coming down at a very high rate of speed,

20:13whereas that fly, because it perceives time

20:15with different frames per unit time,

20:18may see that fly swatter coming down very slowly,

20:21and it says, I've got to get out of the way of this,

20:23and it moves out of the way,

20:25and we feel like we just missed it,

20:26and it felt like it had all day to escape.

20:28So the same thing applies

20:30when you talk about the relativity of time

20:32outside of biological organisms as well.

20:34It makes me think that

20:36the things that we're looking at aren't biological.

20:38They could be considered life forms

20:40just because of that advance

20:42that they can build these things.

20:44But they may be beyond what we describe

20:48as traditional life

20:49and how we describe what's living

20:51and what's not living.

20:53There are a number of reports

20:55of close encounters

20:56that would seem to corroborate

20:58this time travel model.

21:00Amy Rylance, who was taken from her home in Australia

21:04and was found a short period after,

21:09but many hundreds of miles away.

21:12She was taken to the hospital directly after,

21:14and the doctors found that

21:16the growth of her body hair

21:18was consistent with being gone for multiple days,

21:21and the lack of food in her stomach

21:23was also consistent with that.

21:25This would indicate that

21:27the discrepancy between

21:29how long she was actually missing

21:31and how long she reports to have been gone

21:33is best explained in the context of time travel.

21:37There's also the idea of the direction of time.

21:40They could be coming from the past, even.

21:42But what about left in time?

21:44What about right in time?

21:45Or up in time? Or down?

21:47We can't even conceptualize

21:49what that physically looks like.

21:51But what if this is possible,

21:53and somebody has mastered that,

21:55and they're coming from a time above us

21:57rather than in front of us in our future?

22:00We cannot judge the intelligence of species

22:04in outer space by our yardstick.

22:07We cannot assume that they're just

22:09a hundred years more advanced than us,

22:11in which case, yeah, they can't reach us.

22:14But if there are thousands of years ahead of us,

22:17new laws of physics begin to open up.

22:20Before my experience at Rendlesham,

22:27I did not believe in UFOs,

22:29did not believe in that type of phenomena,

22:31would try to debunk anything I ever heard about that.

22:34I thought anybody that would believe in such stuff

22:37was either whacked out, crazy, or delirious.

22:42But all that changed after entering the forest that night.

22:48It was December 1980.

22:49It was the height of the Cold War,

22:51and I was assigned to the twin bases

22:53that were called RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge England.

22:57And in between those two bases was Renaissance Forest.

23:00It was almost a perfect storm of what makes a UFO case compelling.

23:13Multiple witnesses.

23:14Witnesses were military personnel.

23:16The UFO was tracked on radar.

23:18This was a landing, not lights in the sky.

23:21And all of this is backed up,

23:23not just by the say-so of the witnesses,

23:25but by the government file itself.

23:27The night of the incident, we were working at midnight shift.

23:30Everything started out normally.

23:32As a matter of fact, it was rather mundane.

23:35In the middle of getting my first cup of coffee there,

23:38I get a call from Central Security Control, CSC.

23:41They said, I need to respond to the East Gate.

23:44Once arriving at the East Gate,

23:45I met with Staff Sergeant Steffens.

23:48He was a senior law enforcement patrolman.

23:50And I said, what's going on, bud?

23:52And he seemed shook and he seemed upset.

23:56He took his finger and he started pointing over toward Rendlesham Forest.

24:01And so I looked over there and I says, what is that?

24:04You know, I could see some light, like a bubble of light over the canopy of the forest.

24:08In the darker part of the forest, toward the ground,

24:10you could see a multiple color lights going on and off.

24:13While we were in the middle of that conversation,

24:15Sergeant Coffey, the senior controller, comes back.

24:18He says, be advised.

24:20He said, I just checked for London radar, Eastern radar, and Bentwaters radar.

24:25And we lost contact with a bogey, some type of craft, 15 minutes ago.

24:29So we had confirmation of a possible aircraft crash.

24:33Bud says, no, it didn't crash, Jim.

24:35He said, it landed.

24:37As we approached the forest edge, I have Ehrman Kobanzak behind me, about 150 feet.

24:43He's the entry control point.

24:45I have Ehrman Burroughs, 25 to 30 feet over here to my right.

24:48Normally, you would hear wind through the trees.

24:52There was no sound at all.

24:54Actually, it was eerily quiet.

24:56I couldn't hear, like, you know, forest animals.

24:58I couldn't even hear my feet on the forest floor, which had debris on it.

25:03I started feeling static electricity on my face and my skin.

25:07My movements were labored.

25:09Comparison for that would be, like, walking through a pool, water waist high.

25:13I look over my right, for about 15 feet around, it is like a wall of light.

25:18As we approach the forest edge, I'm starting to see a formation of a craft,

25:23triangular in shape.

25:25I have the feeling, as well, this cannot be in any Jane's book of aircraft.

25:32It's not an aircraft that was designed by anything on this planet.

25:36My emotions were all over the place.

25:38They were running from the gambit from being scared to in awe.

25:44I got my camera.

25:45I pop it out.

25:46I shot as much film as I could.

25:48I started looking underneath the craft.

25:52I thought I was curious.

25:53I was wondering, how is it sitting above the forest floor?

25:56And when I looked underneath it, I could see nothing but light under it, like white light.

25:59There was three indentions in the ground.

26:03Triangler.

26:04They were probably an inch, inch and a half deep.

26:06Somehow, this light created those indentions.

26:09I thought, well, maybe it's still mobile or it can move.

26:13And I thought I could push the craft to see if it, you know, if you had a car out there, for example,

26:19you could push it on the side and you would move, you know, a half inch or inch.

26:23This was solid.

26:24The skin of the craft, it was completely smooth.

26:27There was no riveting.

26:28Like black glass, it was shiny.

26:31When I was touching it, it was warm to touch.

26:35I later find out it had radiation.

26:38I got a glimpse on the side of the craft.

26:40It looked like writing.

26:42I'm thinking, oh, great.

26:43You know, it's going to say NASA or Salva Union.

26:46As I get closer to it, it's not writing.

26:49There were more pictorial glyphs drawn on it.

26:51They measured about three feet wide by five inches high.

26:55And then on top of those pictorial glyphs, they had a larger glyph that was a triangular one with a bigger circle around it.

27:04I was just completely baffled.

27:06None of it's making sense.

27:07I can't rationalize it.

27:08It's nothing like I've ever seen before or even today.

27:14This craft with radiation expelled all the film on my camera.

27:19The craft starts generating more whiteish blue light.

27:23And I see the craft start going up.

27:26And it goes up to the canopy of the forest.

27:28And it's just sort of momentarily how it was there.

27:31And then it makes the right turn.

27:33And in a blink of an eye, it's gone.

27:35When it took off, it didn't have no air displacement.

27:38It had no sound.

27:40It had no sonic boom.

27:41None of those, it was void of those two.

27:43One of the thoughts I'd never released in it, not even in the book,

27:46is I thought that there was a strong possibility the craft was organic.

27:50The craft's skin itself was metal and all that.

27:53But it seems organic.

27:54Even the look of it seems organic because of the structure of the craft itself.

28:01From their perspective, it was definitely non-hostile.

28:04Freely letting me walk around, examine it.

28:06Allowed me to take notes.

28:07Allows me to touch it.

28:08Allows me to have an exchange with it.

28:10I think its intentions was to communicate.

28:13That's why it was there.

28:15The U.S. Navy has finally acknowledged that videos appearing to show UFOs flying through the air are genuine.

28:31They do in fact show aerial phenomenon the Navy cannot explain.

28:35And then in fact, our understanding of physics cannot explain.

28:38These are Navy pilots.

28:40This isn't like a farmer who may have no idea how a plane is constructed.

28:44Right.

28:45These are experts baffled on aviation, you're right.

28:48This is massive news that could shatter our entire conception of the universe and our place in it.

28:56The U.S. Navy has confirmed the existence of unidentified flying objects.

29:01My name is Kevin Day.

29:06I'm a former operations specialist senior chief.

29:09My job during the Tic Tac encounter, I was the air defense expert assisting the captain of the ship.

29:13On or about the 10th of November, I went up to combat.

29:19I noticed these really bizarre radar contacts on my radar display.

29:24The reason why I say they were weird is because they were in a group of between five or six that particular day.

29:29They were 28,000 feet going 100 knots.

29:32Normally something that high going that slow is going to fall out of the sky.

29:36So I started coordinating with the bridge team because I wanted them to actually go on what we call the big eye binoculars and try to find them in the sky because I wanted some sort of visual information on these things.

29:45Kevin was very adamant about having me go back and forth from the bridge wings talking to my lookouts and scanning the sky for air contacts.

29:53It just wasn't really a job that I needed to be doing.

29:56I needed to be managing the whole bridge that night.

29:58It was really curious to me that Kevin was so concerned that the chief on the bridge find the air contacts.

30:05I saw a constellation of stars hanging in the sky that just didn't seem to fit.

30:09They were in a constellation of five to seven stars hanging approximately 45 degrees in the air and about 2,000 feet up off the port bow of the ship.

30:17And as I lifted the binoculars up to look at them, all of the stars at once began to move counterclockwise in towards the center.

30:23These were definitely not conventional aircraft.

30:28Every single thing that was in that battle space was managed.

30:31Everything was tracked.

30:33Everything had a name, a number, and had someone watching it on a scope or making sure that either got home safe or got disposed of properly.

30:40It was pretty simple to me that what I was seeing was unlike anything I'd ever seen before.

30:44I turned to the lookout to my left and I said, did you fucking see that?

30:49And he nodded at me with his mouth open.

30:51And we just looked at each other for a minute and looked back up at the sky.

30:56At one point, Sean calls me down to combat and he says, hey, Kevin, I got to talk to you, man.

31:00I'm getting kind of scared up here because this is like an oh shit moment because no one on the bridge knows what these things are.

31:05And why aren't you guys doing anything about this?

31:09I went over to the AIC and I said, hey, I want you to go ahead and intercept with one of those contacts, which just happened to be Commander Fravor's flight.

31:15He says, hey, sir, we've seen these objects.

31:20They've been for two weeks.

31:22They've been coming down and he's given us the whole story.

31:24He says, we need you to go investigate.

31:26We want to know what these are.

31:27Water is perfectly calm.

31:30No white caps.

31:31I mean, it's literally a perfect San Diego, California day.

31:34It's a pretty boring intercept because we have the comms up in the overhead speaker until it gets to the merge point.

31:40We hear on the radio is, Charlie, I think we might have a downed aircraft.

31:44I'm seeing a disturbance of the water down here.

31:46I'm going to check it out.

31:48It's about the size of a 737.

31:50It actually kind of has a shape of like a cross.

31:52It draws our eyes.

31:53We're like, oh, that's kind of odd.

31:57The Wizzo in the other airplane comes up and says, hey, Skipper, do you?

32:01And that's about what he gets out of his mouth.

32:02And what we see is this white tic-tac looking object just above the surface of the water.

32:07It's about 40 feet long.

32:08It didn't have any markings on it.

32:10And it didn't have any wings.

32:11And it didn't have any rotors.

32:12And it's just radically moving forward, back, left, right at will.

32:15So I said, I'm going to go check it out.

32:17So I start driving around.

32:18And it's still doing its forward, back, left, right.

32:20We get to about the 12 o'clock position.

32:21I'm just in a nice, easy descent.

32:23The tic-tac just kind of rapidly goes boop and turns.

32:26So now it mirrors us.

32:27We're up high.

32:28We're coming down.

32:29It starts coming up.

32:30We hear on the overhead speaker, oh, my God, oh, my God.

32:32I'm engaged.

32:33I'm engaged.

32:34This is getting interesting.

32:35So we kind of drive all the way around a circle.

32:36I'm descending.

32:37It's coming up.

32:38And I get over to about the 8 o'clock position of the clock.

32:40And it's over to about the 2 o'clock position.

32:42And I just kind of drop my nose aggressively.

32:44And I cut across the circle.

32:46Because I'm trying to fly to where it's going to be.

32:47Because I want to join on it.

32:48I want to see how close I can get.

32:50And as I'm pulling up, it's kind of starting to cross my nose.

32:56As I start to pull nose onto it, it just goes poof, and it's gone.

33:00I said, hey, let's turn around and let's go back to see what was in the water.

33:07It's gone.

33:08Water's perfectly.

33:09There's no white water, nothing.

33:10It's just blue.

33:11My air intercept controller says, sir, you're not going to believe this, but that object

33:15is back at your cap station.

33:17That was our original point where we were going to hold 40 miles south of the ship.

33:20This thing has went from wherever we were at to 60 miles in 30, 40 seconds.

33:24It's already over there.

33:25And it just, and they didn't track it.

33:27It just appeared.

33:29Whatever it was, was not Newtonian physics.

33:31It was not classical physics.

33:33It had to be something else.

33:36Commander Fravor's flight's getting low on fuel.

33:38So he has to return to the carrier.

33:40Next flight was getting ready to launch.

33:41So he goes out on the flight deck and he waves them down.

33:44He says, hey, definitely take an airplane with an at fleer plot on record video.

33:48That pilot, his name was Chad Underwood.

33:51The other flights launch off the Nimitz and before I know it, I've got all these intercepts

33:55going and these contacts are falling out of the sky.

33:58At one point, it seemed to me that it was raining UFOs.

34:03He goes to lock it up and immediately the radar can tell.

34:06It gets signals back that it's being jammed.

34:08So, and technically jamming is an act of war.

34:11Well, he's smart enough to castle to his targeting pod and he takes a passive track.

34:16And that's the video that you see of the Tic Tac where it's just sitting in the middle of the screen real quiet.

34:20So as you look at it now, in this case, you would actually start to see stuff going on.

34:23And even in TV mode because you get exhaust, you know, the black exhaust that comes out.

34:27You'll usually be able to see kind of some of that coming out of the back and you don't see anything.

34:30This thing's just sitting there.

34:31It's just kind of sitting and all of a sudden off it goes to the left.

34:34For something to leave the field of view that fast with the pod just staring is pretty fast.

34:39I mean, it just, it's like out of here.

34:41The best airplane in the world right now.

34:43F-22 Raptor.

34:44It can't take off like that.

34:45Especially if it's a hover.

34:47I mean, you're talking something that's just sitting in space in the wind

34:50and then it just all of a sudden accelerates.

34:52Airplanes don't work that way.

34:53So that's where I say, well, it was observing us.

34:56It could have been communicating with whatever was there.

34:59My questions are, where'd it come from?

35:02That's, that's the biggest one.

35:03Where'd it come from?

35:05What was it doing?

35:06I don't know if it shifted my perspective, but it was more of a, it's a validation.

35:11You know, I've always like, yeah, there's a lot of stars.

35:13And then you see something like this and go, well, maybe we're not.

35:15Because that pushes you to the next point to go, one lands in my front yard,

35:20then I'll be 100% sure that we are not alone because it's sitting in my front yard.

35:24But I got within a half mile of this thing, which is, people go, well, a half mile is pretty far away.

35:29Not when you're flying an airplane, a half mile is like really tight.

35:32When the tic-tac footage and the gimbal footage and the go fast footage were all released,

35:36they really changed the game for everybody.

35:38And listening to the narration of the pilots during the gimbal footage,

35:41it's even more astonishing because you can hear the sheer incredulity in their voices.

35:45Some people have said that maybe these videotapes are hoaxes.

35:57They're doctored. They're not really real at all.

36:00Well, the military itself has finally owned up to the fact that no, these videotapes are real.

36:06There is something there that seems to be pushing the envelope with regards to the aerodynamics of these objects.

36:15In my own mind, at least, I'm pretty convinced that we had just intercepted a UFO.

36:20And, oh, by the way, I was pretty senior, I was getting ready to retire,

36:23and it was my last intercept, my last real-world intercept.

36:26What a hell of a way to end your career, right?

36:29Intercept a f***ing UFO. Who does that?

36:39The article that I wrote with two colleagues on the front page of the New York Times in December of 2017

36:46was a really big deal. It had a big impact.

36:50And that came about because I was called by some colleagues to meet with Lou Elizondo,

36:56who was the former head of a secret government program, a Pentagon program studying UFOs,

37:02which nobody knew about. And so when I met with him and was given, shown a lot of information,

37:09including some videos, took those to the New York Times with my colleague Ralph Blumenthal,

37:15and that's how the story started.

37:17Since we exposed the fact that the Department of Defense had actually had their own program

37:21and were looking into this and had been studying cases for 10 years,

37:25it makes it a lot harder for government officials to give really crazy explanations for cases

37:31like they used to do in the day of Project Blue Book.

37:34Now we have the Navy proactively volunteering that not only is this video and these two other videos,

37:41are they legitimate, but by the way, hey, we see hundreds of these things all the time,

37:46and we need help reporting them. This is a sea change in the UFO phenomenon.

37:53When I saw these video tapes, I realized that we were watching actually something historic.

37:58It used to be that the burden of proof was on the flying saucer people.

38:02You saw something, prove it. Now it's shifted.

38:06Now the burden of proof is on the military to prove that these objects

38:11are not something bizarre and strange or perhaps from another planet.

38:16I started my career in Los Angeles working on a movie called To the Moon and Beyond for the New York World's Fair.

38:45Uh, which opened in 1964 and 65.

38:49And that film was animated and visual effects.

38:53And this film was seen by Stanley Kubrick and Arthur Clarke,

38:56who were developing a movie project called, uh, Journey Beyond the Stars,

39:01which later became titled 2001 A Space Odyssey.

39:05And that led to me getting a job working on some preliminary design for the movie,

39:09and then actually working on the movie with Stanley Kubrick.

39:12Because I worked on 2001 A Space Odyssey, which was about alien contact,

39:17that led later to working with Steven Spielberg to do the visual effects for Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

39:22And I didn't know when I was working on Close Encounters that J. Allen Hynek was who he was.

39:28I didn't know that Steven Spielberg had read a lot of Jacques Vallée's books,

39:34which led to his writing the screenplay for Close Encounters.

39:37And so, in retrospect, looking back now with what I do know,

39:41many of the events depicted in Close Encounters might have actually occurred.

39:45And so I started thinking of Close Encounters as an expensive documentary film.

39:52When I moved here to the Berkshires and started rethinking my life,

39:55one of the projects that came to the forefront for me was really starting out as kind of an amateur astronomer

40:01and talking about would it be possible to professionally photograph and validate the existence of flying aerial phenomena.

40:10And I started this little project to explore that possibility.

40:14And I called it Uphotog, which meant UFO photography.

40:18So, Doug reviewed the Uphotog system with me.

40:21It was a Humvee that had a system inside of it with multiple telescopes,

40:25multiple instruments that would raise up on a hydraulic lift out of the roof.

40:28Very dramatic.

40:29I looked at it and I said to him what he was already thinking.

40:33It's a very expensive unit to have.

40:35It can't get every place.

40:36There's inaccessible areas that a large vehicle can't reach.

40:40And I said, why don't we make smaller platters and just distribute those?

40:44If you're looking up in the sky with these cameras,

40:46your first thought is, okay, was that an insect?

40:49Was that a bird?

40:50One way to narrow it down right away is to have more than one of these platters looking up into the sky.

40:56And if you have one of these looking up in the sky over here, then you have one view.

41:00But if you have another one looking up in the sky, half a mile away.

41:03Right.

41:04And it sees the same thing.

41:05It's not a localized event.

41:07It's something farther away because both see it at the same time.

41:11And then we can triangulate.

41:12We can get the speed, the course, the altitude.

41:14That's something that's very important.

41:16And because each platter will have multiple sensors, we'll be able to see, for instance, if it emits some gamma rays.

41:24If the thing shows up only in the infrared.

41:27Or if it only shows up in the ultraviolet.

41:29Fire off into the blue end of the spectrum that you can't see with your eyes.

41:33And depending on the method that they use for propulsion, they're going to give off different types of radiation.

41:39And extract an image that tells us exactly what it's made out of, what materials it's made out of.

41:44They can see every rivet.

41:45They can say, well, part of it's Teflon, part of it's carbon fiber, part of it's aluminum, part of it's mylar.

41:51Yeah.

41:52They can actually give you a complete inventory of what it's made out of.

41:54So I thought, well, maybe we're going to see something that we've never seen before.

41:58Maybe it's unanalyzable.

42:00And maybe it's something else.

42:01That's right.

42:02That's right.

42:03That's what we're going to find out.

42:04That's right.

42:05And that's the golden nugget that UFTAG, as in the aerial anomaly detection system, is all about.

42:10And we're going to make that data available to everybody.

42:12This is stuff that belongs to humanity.

42:14We've said this over and over again.

42:16This data belongs to humanity, and it goes to humanity.

42:19What am I, as a physicist, supposed to do when someone says they saw something in the night sky?

42:30Maybe they did.

42:32Maybe they didn't.

42:33In other words, we need something tangible.

42:36We need a takeaway.

42:37We need something that we can say, aha, here is the smoking gun.

42:43To have a real smoking gun where we, like, maybe even know what the phenomenon is, it would have to be something like we've never seen before.

42:55Something retrieved by our government, or even is stashed away in a private company, or a craft or part of a craft.

43:03Or it could be something the phenomenon does by itself.

43:07And I think either one of those things would obviously change everything and would probably allow a determination to be made as to what they actually are.

43:20Part of a craft.

43:24I know that it is supposedly from a crash site in New Mexico from the St. Augustine Plains.

43:32It happened in 1947 within weeks of the supposed Roswell crash.

43:39My team was lucky over the recent four weeks.

43:42We were able to acquire materials that I deem exotic.

43:47So, yeah, you have three completely different alloys.

44:00At least one of these samples shows an extremely high probability of having carbon dioxide.

44:06nanotubes inside of them.

44:07And none of the isotopic ratios belong to any element on Earth.

44:10Based on the first lab that looked at this, we can say objectively with scientific certainty that this wasn't created in our solar system.

44:19We are literally villagers right now trying to pick apart an iPhone in the 16th century.

44:26So we know there's more stuff going down at the lower levels.