00:00We are with Leonel Daniel Aguirre, a very long name, but everyone calls Tolito.
00:07Yes, much more simple, Oleo Tolito.
00:11Tell me a little bit, how was that name?
00:14Well, my brother was a football player and he put tolo for his technical director,
00:21for the tolo gallego, and I was the minor and me fell tolito,
00:26from the air fell tolito.
00:28Tell me a little bit, how was your brother playing football,
00:32and you decided to play for another sport?
00:35I was the only one who was very bad at football,
00:38I never liked it, I never liked it.
00:41My family had already started playing football when I was young,
00:45so we had to follow my brother, we had a lot of age difference,
00:50so he was my second father more than a brother,
00:54and he came very fast to play first professional,
00:56so until today I trained him and I learned a lot from him.
01:00Tell me a little bit if you could help me with your path in the father.
01:06Well, our beginning was very difficult in Argentina,
01:13it was obviously very difficult.
01:15We, all the boys who are playing Premier,
01:19we started in Argentina with the menors, sub-2, sub-14,
01:23but for us it was and it was very difficult.
01:28Thank God, I got an opportunity to work in Mexico,
01:31I went to work, I said I wanted to fight for my dreams,
01:34I spent two or three years working in Mexico,
01:38I met very good people, and well,
01:41as I met very good people there, I met Lucho, my manager,
01:45who, at the day of today, is on my side and me helps a lot in Italy.
01:49What work did you do in Mexico?
01:51I did classes, a lot of classes,
01:53and well, I also stayed without work,
01:55and the person I have on my side,
01:58my wife has helped me in everything,
02:00she got to cook or whatever,
02:02so that we could go ahead.
02:04How has been important that family support
02:09to be able to do what you are doing now?
02:12Well, from the day 1, when I met my wife,
02:15she told me,
02:17here is not where you have to be,
02:19I want to see you there,
02:20we were watching,
02:21I don't remember if it was Premier Paddle
02:23or World Paddle Tour,
02:24on TV,
02:25and she told me,
02:26there is where you have to be.
02:27She helped me a lot,
02:28and it's also like I'm fighting for the dreams of the two,
02:31it's something very nice,
02:32because I'm fighting for the dreams of the two,
02:34she never stopped to trust me,
02:37helps me on the day-to-day,
02:38until today I'm in the gym with me,
02:41with the same physical physical,
02:44and then,
02:45with the years,
02:46my son came,
02:47which is what gives me the energy day-to-day.
02:50And that also plays Paddle.
02:51That's all the day,
02:52even at home,
02:53until I came to live in Italy,
02:55and I've been here for three years.
02:57Three years,
02:58you speak Italian, I imagine.
03:00I speak a bit.
03:01Ah, I speak a bit.
03:02Now we are in Premier Paddle,
03:04tell me,
03:05this jazz is the big jump for you
03:08or what does it take?
03:10No, I think we can do a lot more.
03:12I'm in a long project,
03:14obviously,
03:15where I'm changing my physique,
03:17I'm changing my way of playing,
03:19my way of thinking,
03:21everything.
03:22I think that getting to this circuit
03:24changed my mind a lot,
03:26I'm even more mature,
03:29I'm much more focused,
03:32I take it as a job,
03:34no.
03:35No, no.
03:36No, no, no.
03:37No.
03:38No, no duermo poco o sea,
03:39todo perfecto,
03:40Obviamente duelen más las derrotas,
03:42porque cuando uno pierde hay que ser sincero,
03:44no,
03:45no estaba acostumbrado a perder,
03:46y ahora pierdo,
03:47y me duele porque estoy haciendo todo bien,
03:49y aún así pierdo.
03:50and even so I lose.
03:51You mentioned that you are eating better,
03:54better, better, everything.
03:56You had talked a lot about your physical state.
04:00I would like to ask you,
04:01what is the most pain that has been said to you?
04:05No, the truth is that I think it gives me more rabia
04:08to my surroundings, to my friends, to my manager.
04:12I can tell you the same thing,
04:14I don't think about what others say.
04:17In the top four, if you could choose one with whom you could play,
04:21could you say a name?
04:24Tapia.
04:25Tapia.
04:26He is the best and has a unique humility.
04:30He is still being the same kid I've known.
04:34It's something that he says a lot about,
04:36almost all the players I've interviewed.
04:39You've seen it since I was younger,
04:42you've seen the evolution.
04:44We've shared selections,
04:45I've shared with his family, with his dad,
04:47with his coach now, with Martín.
04:51I always say that for me it's the best,
04:53because it's the best inside and outside of the game.
04:55Do you think in any moment
04:57the expectations of you were too high?
05:01I think the opposite.
05:04I think they were underestimated a lot.
05:05Yes.
05:06And today I can show you a ranking,
05:08a number of tournaments,
05:10a number of results,
05:12a number of results,
05:14a number of results.
05:16I don't know if they've achieved a lot.
05:18I haven't achieved a lot,
05:20but I think they've been underestimated a lot.
05:22Now it's Argentina and Spain,
05:25the fight here.
05:27We've also seen with the menors,
05:29we've seen in the most young competitions.
05:31In this case, Spain won.
05:33In this case, Spain won.
05:35In this case, Spain won.
05:37In this case, Argentina won.
05:39You've seen a lot of results.
05:41In this case, Spain won.
05:43Well, I'm a rare Argentinian.
05:45I don't look at football,
05:47I don't look at selecciones.
05:49When we were menors,
05:51we saw that Spain won.
05:55I don't know if they have the most easy things,
05:59but their economy is more regular,
06:01their coaches, their way of training.
06:05I don't know if a 16-year-old in Argentina
06:09will train as a 16-year-old in Spain.
06:12Do you think it's not?
06:13It's more difficult in Argentina.
06:15It's much more difficult,
06:16first, because of the economy,
06:17and second, that,
06:19to my point of view,
06:21a 15-16-year-old in Spain
06:23takes a job.
06:25And the children in Argentina, no.
06:28So it's going to be a moment,
06:30where all the best trainers are in Spain.
06:34And it's more,
06:37I could say that almost all are Argentinos,
06:40but they train at a very good level.
06:43They also have the possibility
06:44of training with people from Premier Paddle.
06:46I think our children in Argentina
06:49don't have that possibility,
06:50not even to take a coffee and look at them.
06:53Yeah.
06:54The solution, in reality,
06:55for an Argentinian who wants to start with the Paddle
06:58is to move to Spain as much as possible.
07:00That's not easy for us.
07:02That's not easy.
07:03Ya para cerrar con la entrevista,
07:05me gustaría saber,
07:07¿qué consejo le habrías dado a Mini Tolito
07:09cuando estaba empezando toda esta aventura en el Paddle?
07:14No, creo que lo hice bien.
07:16Creo que lo hice bien.
07:17Creo que lo intenté todo.
07:19Lo intenté todo,
07:20pero tuve que hacer lo que hice.
07:23Tenía que trabajar,
07:24tenía que dar clases,
07:26hacerme fuerte de cabeza económicamente,
07:30tener una mujer que vale oro como mi mujer,
07:32que creo que es fundamental.
07:35Sin ella no sé si jugaría lo que juego ni lograría la mitad de las cosas.
07:39¿Tienes un mantra?
07:41¿Tienes una frase que te repites siempre a menudo o algo que te dices a ti mismo?
07:46Nada, que no me rinda, nada más.
07:50El que tiene magia no necesita trucos.
07:53Una frase con mi hermano que siempre lo decimos y él siempre me lo recalca.
07:58Pues ha sido un placer que vaya a tope y encima con tanta magia que tú la tienes
08:05y con tanta concentración como estás demostrando lo que tienes en los últimos meses y muchas gracias por la entrevista.
08:11Gracias.
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