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00:00on a dark rural path a vicious sexual assault takes place we saw this man I don't like to call
00:16him man I call him monster because in my eyes he's not a man or a human I put him in a category of
00:22like creatures of the night she's got a boyfriend to protect her she thought she'd be okay and they
00:33just decided to walk home along the town path he was sitting there when I just was like please
00:42God please God please God please don't let me die the police in this case were pretty convinced this
00:53can't have been his first of offense so therefore DNA is gonna be a database weeks went by and they
01:01couldn't get their suspect months turned to years and mulchia police run out of leads I lived in fear
01:10I couldn't be in the house on my own to think he's gonna come back and kill me was quite scary I'm
01:20really passionate about cold cases because that trauma they must have been through never went away
01:25for Steph and Adam we're looking for any suspects and so get a list of thousands of names that could
01:30be linked you're really looking at those that are at the top and one name particularly stood out they
01:37know where he lives they decide you know we're gonna get him dawn raid was he on to them when they
01:44turned up to arrest him he wasn't there
02:07Salisbury's a lovely place it's a cathedral city it's quiet there's not a lot of crime it's normally a
02:19safe place to to live not much going on I dare say it's quite light or posh ish because it's got
02:27a cathedral I would class it's quite a safe place to live you would expect to get sort of low-level
02:36burglary car theft you know drink-related incidents on a Friday Saturday night occasional punch-up but
02:47sort of serious sex assaults would be relatively rare on the cold night of Sunday October 7th 2001 in the
03:00shadows of the cathedral a horrific incident occurs as you leave Salisbury City Center and you head
03:08towards East Harnham is a suburb about two or three miles away there is a path that cuts across which
03:14saves you about 30 minutes of walking it's quite a famous path because halfway along John Constable
03:19famously painted the picture of Salisbury Cathedral the town path starts in Elizabeth Gardens in
03:30Salisbury it's actually a really lovely place a beautiful walk quite open it's a path in the middle
03:36of all the fields so that's why it's it's you know so nice to walk down there because it's quite
03:42remote but quite pretty as well during the day perfectly well lit lots of parents mothers pushing
03:54babies cyclists runners really nice place to walk at night it's a little bit more sinister I guess it's
04:04not that well lit there's nowhere to go once you're on that path there's no turnings left or right it's
04:10one long path that night a pair of local teenagers were on their way home from a night out
04:18that particular night I was with my best friend and she was with her boyfriend at the time we were
04:29together to so Adam and I and her and her partner so we were in this pub together Adam and I decided we
04:38wanted to go home it was quite late it was sort of getting sort of half one or quarter two in the
04:44morning and she decided to stay out we were gonna walk home together to two couples like safety and
04:53numbers and all that and she lived along the road from me as well but yeah Adam and I we left first
05:00rather than get a taxi because obviously they're teenagers they don't have a lot of money they
05:10just thought they'd walk it which you know she's got a boyfriend to protect her she thought she'd be
05:15okay and they just decided to walk home along the town path so I've been working evenings in Salisbury
05:29CID we'd finished at 10 o'clock I probably had a couple of pints in the bar we used to have a police
05:34bar and then I'd cycled back across that path it was absolutely pouring rain so I just kept my head down
05:43cycled home because I lived at the end of the path and I do remember when I cycled along there was a
05:48shadow in the bushes but I'm just trying to get home so I'm not really thinking much about what's
05:52going on the following day I was on early turn so I was back in at 8 o'clock in the morning and
05:58that's when I first heard there had been a horrific attack that evening in the early hours on that town
06:03path I went by there about 11 o'clock and I think the attack took place at sort of 2 in the morning
06:10so he'd been there for some considerable time waiting to attack someone it was a very dark night
06:20but also a very wet and cold night and they were you know making their way along when the the rain got
06:27sort of heavier and heavier and they were forced to take shelter under a tree about halfway down the
06:32path Adam and I went to stand under the trees to shelter we saw this man he was sitting there he
06:45didn't you have a dog like who who does that and as you're a little bit weird like you people just
06:50don't do stuff like that so immediately I knew that isn't it was I was uneasy immediately
06:58I sort of panicked and I said to Adam we better go Adam because my dad's meeting us halfway along
07:13here in a minute remember so I sort of said it loud enough so he would hear but sort of said it sort
07:22of told like a lie so he would think if he will if he was going to attack us I sort of would have
07:28thrown him off the scent because he thought actually her dad's come along here my dad didn't even live
07:33with me we turned away to walk off and he grabbed me hit Adam over the head and knocked him out and put a
07:47gun to my head I was made to perform oral sex on him with a gun to my head Adam was told to climb
07:56into the field he was told not to watch he was told that if he did anything stupid that they'd be
08:01seriously injured or shot so Adam had to listen to his partner being sexually assaulted she's so
08:08terrified she's got a gun ahead she has absolutely no choice about what she has to do the couple must
08:14have must have thought you know he's gonna kill us out of this they can't you know he's gonna let
08:19us live terrifying I remember the cold because it was a cold night the gun to my head and pressing
08:29really really hard against my forehead I mean it's metal it's cold and I just remember thinking shit
08:37like I just did what he said Adam was absolutely helpless he got told he would get killed too and
08:45he was saying please don't hurt my girlfriend please don't hurt my girlfriend but he was just
08:51left there petrified because he was 16 as well he was young of course he didn't want him to hurt and
08:57attack me I don't think Adam knew really what was happening or what his intentions were he wasn't
09:03allowed to get up he was told he should lay face down Eagle spread Salisbury Wiltshire 2001
09:24whilst on their way home from a night out 16 year old schoolgirl Stephanie Rudd and her boyfriend
09:33Adam Underwood have been apprehended on a deserted footpath by a man with a gun
09:38Adam is made to lie down and look away whilst the unknown assailant forces Stephanie to perform oral sex
09:48on him do you know what he was actually quite calm um he wasn't shouting he was sort of keeping his
09:56voice down a bit but aggressively calm so with anger and you do what I say in his voice
10:04yeah he was scary very scary indeed
10:08Adam was obviously struck with fear and he you know he just led there he was just too scared to get
10:20up as a young girl to do something like that is obviously pretty disgusting and yeah I remember
10:28spitting out his semen in my hand and wiping it down my trousers
10:36but I don't think he knew that's what I had done because he said would you like a tissue
10:45would you like a tissue would you like a handkerchief
10:47she wipes them on her leg to preserve evidence this shows that even in a really distressing
10:56situation Stephanie was thinking she was thinking she wanted justice
11:00afterwards he made me feel like he didn't know where he was and I remember trying to be really
11:11helpful to him trying to give him directions because he was lost or not from around here
11:16I based him to be Scottish because at that time I honestly thought that was where he was wrong
11:22he spoke in a slight accent they both been brought up in Salisbury so they're not that familiar with with the other accents in the country
11:32and he also asked for directions he asked for directions to Wilton Road which is one of the main roads leading out of Salisbury towards Bristol and Bath
11:44he continued to grope me put all his hands down my top and everything probably getting his last kicks in
11:55he's let them live but he tells them not to move until he's gone
12:01he sort of slowly disappears into the darkness
12:06and I eventually did lift my head up really really slowly
12:12because it had gone really quiet and I remember looking up to the cathedral
12:16looking up to the cross
12:17and I just was like please God please God please God please don't let me die
12:24please don't let me die but I so meant it when I was doing it
12:28like I was so I had such a moment
12:30he did say if you tell anybody
12:38I will come back and kill you if you tell the police or tell anyone about this I will come back and kill you
12:44we led there for about five about ten minutes and we eventually got up
12:51and then I was sick everywhere
12:55I could hardly walk I remember my legs being so scared and jellified
13:03walking back literally struggling to put one foot in front of the other
13:08you know I'm thinking he could be hiding in the trees he could be hiding in the bushes
13:14if I've got my phone out we try to ring the police he's he's gonna kill us
13:19so we didn't do anything we just made it back to my mum's house
13:23but yeah then my mum rang the police from there
13:26this is a huge incident you know it's in a very low crime city to the report of such a crime
13:37gets a huge police response so there's you know there's half a dozen police officers turn up immediately
13:42they blocked off the town path which obviously is the crime scene
13:48you don't want any contamination of that crime scene if there's any evidence there
13:51the weather that night was not our friend because anything that could have been there
13:59almost certainly would have been washed away
14:01it was torrential rain and was probably talking one or two hours after the attack
14:05so there's no way really of keeping that scene dry
14:09this attacker had brought a gun to the scene it seems he was prepared to use violence
14:15he sexually assaulted a female child a 16 year old
14:19but he didn't even approach a lone 16 year old he had the audacity to try to do this
14:23when someone else was present real risk-taking behavior
14:26the first thing you want to do is find out the story from the victims their account
14:36do they know the attacker if this is a stranger attack this is going to be really serious and
14:42really going to affect the people of Salisbury so the sooner you can catch someone the safer
14:46you can make people feel
14:51they're only 16 years old so you want to see whether you can pick them up on cctv
14:57can you see whether they've been followed have they bumped into someone in town that has taken
15:01a liking to them could the suspect already be known to them or was he placed them under
15:06some sort of surveillance and followed them so it's really key that you get such a detailed
15:10account of their movements that day
15:14Wiltshire police need to act quickly to secure any evidence that might help identify the attacker
15:19Steph provided her clothes which were seized bagged up safely so if there was any forensic
15:27evidence attached to that clothing we'd have a good chance of recovering it
15:30they obviously fast-tracked this DNA test on Steph's genes and it comes back quite significantly it comes
15:41back with a single sperm head
15:43so we were surprised because we know a little bit about DNA and semen and normally there's sort
15:52of a million plus sperm heads that are released so to find one single one we wanted to ask those
15:57questions as to what did that tell us about this individual and it could be one or two or probably
16:02three things one is he was a frequent masturbator and his body wasn't able to recover quickly
16:07enough to produce sperm two is he could have had a vasectomy and what he released was a post vasectomy
16:14sperm or three he wasn't able to produce sperm naturally anyway so he probably wouldn't have had
16:21children and things like that
16:23you're looking for someone that maybe fits into that you know as part of your sort of overriding profile
16:30the police in this case were pretty convinced this can't have been his first of offense he must have
16:38committed other sexual offenses so therefore his DNA is going to be in the database
16:42so DNA is made up of sort of 20 strands and we had 17 strands so we were very close to a full
16:52profile which was able to be searched on the national DNA database so you're very excited thinking once
16:57they run this through the chances are it's going to print out a suspect on the end of it and this case
17:02will be solved really quickly
17:03there was no direct eyewitness there was no cctv of the crime scene or nearby the police knew that
17:16they needed a lot of help from the public so they immediately went to the local press and and local
17:22tv as well to get you know appeal out to get that photo fit out there
17:26we wanted this person caught as soon as possible this is a really dangerous man and committing this
17:35type of brazen attack what would stop him doing it again or you know even something more sinister
17:40so the media were definitely keen to be involved and also for Salisbury this is something that doesn't
17:46happen so this crime you know sort of struck at the heart of the community and everybody was talking
17:52about it everybody was guessing who it could be you know we were getting names thrown into the incident
17:57room and the police were hitting it as hard as they could they were doing regular swabs of young men
18:05or all men in Salisbury which is quite a small town so you're eventually gonna kind of get a large
18:11percentage of those they thought they must be able to get get him by doing that but um you know the
18:18weeks went by and whether he he did you know deliberately was evading those swabs and those you
18:25know knew what was going on but um they couldn't get their suspect the police launched a massive inquiry
18:31over 1500 people were questioned in relation to gathering information to help the police we stood in
18:38the marketplace in Salisbury and swab bald men on a Tuesday at market just really clutching at straws
18:44seeing where we could go with this investigation you didn't have to have suspicion if you just said
18:48my next-door neighbor's odd we'd go and swab them and we could really quickly eliminate people
18:53the police would say oh we we've had a couple of leads you know but they wouldn't sort of get our
19:00hopes up but those leads never turned into anything and then sort of six months went on a year went on
19:06and everyone would always say did they catch that did they catch that guy is he still out there
19:12disappointingly but naturally after about sort of a year you run out of lines of inquiry and so
19:24you have to go and see the victims then and say look as much as we've done we haven't caught anybody
19:31we won't forget about this because that DNA profile will remain on the database so at any given time
19:37we could have a suspect thrown up or there'll be advances in science that allows us to revisit it
19:44and do something more clever so you know it was always in the back of our minds that we would one day
19:50solve this case the police put out flyers they went round to when this is old school like back in
19:58it was like 24 years ago now so everyone had something through the door it went on crime watch
20:04twice in 10 years and nothing nothing at all
20:09the case against the unidentified sexual attacker in salisbury goes cold but detective superintendent
20:17sean memory couldn't give up on the case
20:20not only that but advancements in familial dna testing were about to blow the case wide open
20:28police in salisbury wiltshire are still searching for the perpetrator of an aggravated sexual assault
20:49that took place on the night of october 7th 2001
20:52during the attack a teenage schoolgirl stephanie rudd was sexually assaulted while her then boyfriend adam
21:00underwood watched helplessly despite their tireless efforts over the years investigators have yet to
21:08identify a suspect sadly not much happened in the intervening years there wasn't a lead particularly
21:16every so often someone would come forward and say i think it could be my ex-partner and we would
21:21swab them you know you'd get a bit excited but quite quickly it would come back from the laboratory
21:25sorry this isn't your person steph and adam went about their lives they were given contact numbers
21:31should they wish to stay in touch but naturally they tried to move on
21:35i suffered from really bad anxiety which is is is weird really i've done some therapy
21:46for the last sort of six months because i'm getting to that age in my life you know where
21:51i want to know how i work and why i am the way i am why i'm wired the way i am why i get anxious
21:57so i still get like this when i'm supposed to know it all at 40 and my therapist has said to me that
22:04i've got ptsd from that attack
22:06the psychological impact of any violence and sexual violence in particular is huge but living in
22:14uncertainty added to that so with somebody not being caught somebody there at large to harm other
22:19people or even the same victims again you can just imagine how that perpetuated the trauma for both
22:25victims over the years the police did continue to try to publicize the case to try and keep the story
22:31going so that people were on the lookout for their suspect but unfortunately nothing was revealed
22:38almost a decade after the attack detective sean memory hears of a technique that could potentially
22:44break this cold case every time you're arrested in the uk you'll have your dna taken if you're convicted
22:50it will remain on there so any crime from low-level shoplifting up to murder you will appear on that
22:56database you know so it's a fantastic database which continually grows month on month but it's
23:02obviously difficult if your suspect has never committed a crime or has committed his crimes pre-dna
23:09i was very fortunate to watch a presentation on familial dna which is a really clever new piece of
23:17science so you know that the suspect isn't on the database but you're looking for family members
23:23whether that's siblings or parents that could be closely matched because we all share dna and share
23:30some similarities but siblings and parents will share much more so you can look at the database and see
23:37whether it throws up anybody that looks fairly similar and that will narrow down your search and then
23:42you can do family trees and then go and swab some of the right people
23:50we'd visited rapists sex offenders each time you raise your hopes thinking
23:56this is going to be the one you know this could be our hit
24:01you have to let the science do the talking but i get that response and i'm ever so sorry it's not him
24:06i lived in fear um i couldn't be in the house on my own even i would get in my car at night check
24:14the boot check the back of the seats to make sure no one was there i knew no one was there because
24:19i checked it myself but i would still drive petrified of the dark or people behind me so to live for 10
24:28years like that to think gonna come back and kill me was quite scary i then managed to secure um one
24:41last round of funding because each time you run the database costs you know 10 000 pounds or more
24:49because each month several hundred or a thousand people are added to the database across the country
24:55so you rerun the search because they then have checked against whether they could be related
25:01with the budget running low and possibly on their final search investigators received the name of a
25:06potential relative of the suspected attacker and one name particularly stood out and it was the surname
25:13henderson so you start doing some family research and the name keith henderson came up
25:18the son of keith henderson had been swabbed for a minor offense in salisbury
25:25he'd been added to the database and he was a fairly close match to our crime scene
25:33so it was at this point it was this the first point that they actually get the name keith henderson
25:39through that familial dna test and uh they need to find out who he is where he is is he still alive
25:48is he in prison they need to find this guy
25:54he was not known he wasn't any previous convictions but when we start digging into his history
26:01he had in fact come to notice living fairly close to salisbury for an incident where he was found
26:07peering into a young couple's bedroom he immediately phoned up and said that there was a domestic
26:12incident going on obviously to prevent himself being reported for being a peeping tom so he'd appeared
26:17on our system but only for that but probably more critical to us at that point was when we started
26:23looking at his employment history at the time of the attack on the town path he was actually working
26:29in the cathedral in the grounds as a close constable which was an honorary position but basically
26:34responsible for security locking the gates at night and then patrolling to make sure everybody
26:39that lived within that gated community were safe eventually they tracked down where keith henderson is
26:50now and they uh they need a dna uh swab off him they obviously don't they can't go up to him and ask
26:58him for it they don't want to spook him out they don't want him to sort of go on the run
27:03um so they did they sort of take more covert measures you know if he's a smoker and he's smoking
27:08a cigarette and discarding it bingo
27:15i have a couple of operational decisions to make now keith henderson also has a brother so i can't rule
27:21out necessarily that it's not his brother so do i arrest him and bring him in swab him lawfully in custody
27:28and then find out it's not him but it could be a brother and therefore i've let out that i know
27:32it's in the henderson family or do i try and be a bit more clever and do something covertly
27:37so what i did was i sought permission to carry out some surveillance on keith henderson
27:47we were going to follow him for a few days and either recover a cigarette if he smoked
27:52or swab a coffee cup if he went into town and about day two or three of the surveillance he was
27:57acting a bit odd around females and the team were reporting back that he's odd you know he stares at
28:03women but he went into a coffee shop in town and had two coffees when he left they put a swab around
28:10the cup without him knowing we then quickly sent that off to the lab whilst he's still under surveillance
28:15and within 24 hours i get the response back that firstly they've managed to obtain a full profile
28:21from the coffee cup but secondly that it matches the crime scene for the attack on steph and adam
28:29so it's that eureka moment for the police they get that call from the forensic lab
28:35you've got a match it's an absolute 100 match keith henderson is your man
28:39and they know we've just got to go and arrest him and bring this guy to justice
28:49although they are almost certain they will secure the conviction of henderson with the dna evidence
28:54detective superintendent sean memory and his team must proceed with caution
29:02do i go and tell adam and steph now or do i wait to the point of arrest that's a really difficult
29:07decision because the excitement in me is i need to tell them but at this point i don't know where
29:13keith henderson is and i don't want to over excite adam and steph if for some reason he's gone abroad for
29:20a month or so i decide not to say anything at that point but to plan his arrest
29:25so the investigation is going well they know where he lives they've been following him they know what
29:38his vehicle is they trail him they decide you know we're going to get him you know dawn raid knock on
29:44the door if you don't answer burst in get him and they're 100 sure you know he's there because his
29:51vehicle is outside the night before the arrest we checked and the car was there so it was all ready
29:57to go the next morning and the reason why we wanted to arrest in the morning was to take his swab
30:03six o'clock in the morning put it on a motorcycle straight to the lab and have them process it in
30:08daylight rather than it sit overnight so whilst he's in custody i would get a phone call back and say yes
30:14you've got a complete match you know on the lawful sample that you've taken
30:18the police carefully planned the arrest as they would do in a very serious case like this
30:24however when they turned up to arrest him he wasn't there was he onto them had he escaped in
30:29that way or was it an innocuous trip elsewhere the wife was fairly indignant because we also had a
30:38warrant to search the house so she wasn't that pleased that we were there she was in her dressing gown
30:43i had his number so whilst they were searching it i made the decision actually it better be on my
30:51shoulders i'll ring him i'll try not to say what it's about but i'll see when he's coming back from
30:56scotland and if i can get him back sooner
31:01he says you know we need to speak to you but he's quite cagey about what it's about
31:07and it appears that keith henderson thinks it's to do with a peeping tom incident or an incident where
31:13he was accused of being a peeping tom was actually sort of where it may have been a misunderstanding
31:20with his neighbors where they saw him looking in and he he had actually contacted the police and said
31:27i thought there was a domestic incident next door so that's clearly what he thought it was rather than
31:33the actual sexual assault from all those years ago
31:39henderson has used this technique to get away with previous reports of sexual deviancy
31:44and he clearly thinks he can do it again
31:49i call him and he answers very polite said it was nice to hear from me and we never met and i was
31:56polite to him and i said look i need you to come back as soon as possible we need to discuss some
32:01serious matters he didn't ask what it was which was a bit strange and he said well i'm in scotland
32:06i said well could you get yourself to the train station today when i came off the phone most of
32:11my colleagues were he's just having you along he's clearly not going to get on a train he's going to
32:16be on a flight from edinburgh to timbuktu or somewhere similar
32:23it was a risky move on the part of the detectives
32:25and the question remained would keith henderson arrive back in salisbury as promised
32:32or were the team about to lose their prime suspect
32:48on the 4th of october 2011 in salisbury wiltshire
32:52police are preparing to arrest a man named keith henderson for the sexual assault on a then 16
32:57year old stephanie rudd that had occurred in salisbury 10 years previously
33:05myself and two colleagues attended the train station at six o'clock that evening
33:10i guess deep down i fully expected him not to be on that train because everything had gone so
33:14well in the investigation i thought this was just the final bit of a hassle in terms of finding him
33:21but to everyone's surprise prime suspect 56 year old keith henderson did appear on the train platform
33:29as promised rather than do it in front of everybody on the train station we took him outside and my
33:36colleague then arrested him for what had happened to steph and adam now clearly he had no idea that
33:42that's what he was being brought back for because he went ashen and barely breathed for about two
33:48minutes to a point where i said keith you're gonna have to breathe and we were quite worried about him
33:53so we drove the half a mile to salisbury police station and we immediately had to get a doctor out
33:58to him because he'd lost all the color in his face and it clearly completely knocked him
34:02so when they get to the police station they start the police interview they straight away say you
34:09know we have dna we've got a clear match between you and the perpetrator they obviously hoping he's
34:15going to confess say okay yeah maybe try to give us some story maybe try to claim it as consensual or
34:21something but no he is in complete denial he looks clearly uh sort of worried or or concerned that they
34:28mentioned dna and he's probably thinking uh how did that happen i had got this tissue i took it away
34:38he genuinely believed he hadn't left his dna at the scene he'd not been on the dna database himself
34:44so why on earth could we have picked him up 11 or 12 years later it just didn't compute in his mind
34:51perhaps understandably for someone who wants to get away with a crime henderson denied everything he
34:55denied everything at interview and he pleaded not guilty when we searched the house we found a replica
35:05nine millimeter pistol italian which subsequently through inquiries we were able to age as being
35:11purchased on and around the right sort of time for the attack on stephan adam now i can't say for certain
35:17that that was the gun he used but it was a strong inference to use at trial to say this is the gun that
35:23he probably used he asked for a solicitor um and then um gave some account initially and then didn't
35:31finish off by answering anymore but the whole time he clearly was racking his brain as to
35:37that's all very interesting but i have had a vasectomy and i'm not on the dna database so
35:44how have you made that leap from there to there and we never disclosed that it was through his son
35:51being arrested because we didn't need to because we had a profile taken from him whilst in custody
35:59so the trial gets underway and it's not a terribly long trial there's not lot to it there's the dna
36:07the victims steph and adam both give their evidence and then it's over to the defense
36:14just before the trial started and the jury was sworn in the the judge was quite clear to him saying
36:19have you received proper advice because the police are sat on a very strong case here
36:25and if you make the victims give evidence which you're entitled to do in terms of sentencing i will
36:31take a dim view of that course of action he's sort of adamant no it's not you know it might be my dna but
36:38you know maybe there's some innocent reason maybe they brushed across me you know maybe i touched her
36:43at some point during the evening the jury were never going to buy that you know the dna could
36:48only have come from one place during the trial henderson continued to maintain his innocence showing
36:55no remorse whatsoever but the jury only took two hours to decide that he was guilty and it seemed
37:01that it all hinged on this crucial dna evidence people often ask me why do people plead not guilty when
37:08there is overwhelming evidence the answer's complex for some people it could be that they want to
37:12save face there might be shame associated with it letting their family down what will their loved ones
37:17think of them but also if you think about it people want to get away with crimes quite often
37:22henderson pleaded not guilty he'd got away with this for years so potentially he held out some hope
37:28that he was going to get found not guilty for all intents and purposes he had to accept it was his
37:37dna as one in a billion and our barrister cleverly broke that down by saying when we say one in a
37:42billion you take away women from that you take away children from that so of a population of 56 million
37:49in this country him being one in a billion there's almost certainly not another match in the world
37:55henderson was found guilty of assault possession of an imitation firearm sexual assault and false
38:01imprisonment he received a 12 and a half year sentence and is required to sign the sex offender
38:06register for life this case it sticks with me because it was local to where i live it was almost
38:14personal i'd been across that town path that day and so i had a pang of guilt a little bit i think that i
38:20possibly seen the offender but not knowing he was just sheltering under a tree
38:27i had children my own and i'm sort of thinking to myself how does that feel for two 16 year olds to
38:32lose their innocence you know they were just starting off on life starting to have fun
38:38all the sort of things that we all did as kids and all of that was taken away by keith henderson
38:42he was callous he showed no remorse in the time he spent in prison for vast majority of it he
38:51didn't admit it until finally he did accept it he had no care for steph and adam he had a desire to
38:58commit a sexual offense and sadly steph and adam were the wrong people at the wrong place at the
39:03wrong time it was like too good to be true like the the relief and that oh my god like because i
39:12expect there's some people who probably i don't know not didn't believe me but because he never
39:18got caught or nothing ever happened about it you know people make their own assumptions and stuff in
39:23life and i remember one person saying to my mum is there any chance stephanie could be making this up
39:31at all do you know what i mean i was thinking do you actually think that i would do that but i guess
39:36if they've not caught anyone you know where is he where's this man who attacked her so the relief was
39:43yeah it was a massive relief it was pretty amazing we were very very happy i mean i'm really passionate
39:52about cold cases because that never went away for steph and adam and if it had not been solved they'd still
39:58be sat there today with different feelings than perhaps they are now so it's really important to
40:03me to the advances of science why not go back and try and help these people you know this has lived
40:10with them and it's not closure because what happened happened and they'll never be able to get rid of
40:14that but they deserve some justice um and to see the look on their faces made all that effort and hard
40:20work you know we'd worked on it almost solidly for 18 months a very small team with highs and lows of
40:28suspects coming forward and then being eliminated and you know leads that not don't go anywhere so to
40:33reach that point it was just so satisfying to see the look on steph and adam's it you can't bottle that
40:39the key thing about uh cold cases is that um you know a determined detective will a lot of the times get
40:48their perpetrator because time goes by people's um affiliations change so you know some people who
40:57might be protecting somebody will give them up or dna dna sort of advances will come along not just dna but
41:05then family familial dna so in a cold case um any detective taking over that file has to be sort of
41:13confident has to be determined and um hopefully in a lot of cases and thankfully in this case they get
41:21them out without familial dna i'm not convinced this case would have ever been solved it would
41:32really have just relied on keith henderson slipping up somewhere committing anything minor probably a
41:39drink driving offense or something similar or a domestic incident and being swabbed and then the
41:44hit coming through but without that he'd gone 10 or 12 years with that not happening so without familial
41:50dna and a reinvestigation i'm fairly certain that this case would never have been solved
41:59my experience with the police especially with sean he was amazing man he didn't stop and he never gave
42:06up on me and adam and when he got caught and when it went to trial
42:12after he got found guilty he turned around and he had tears in his eyes that you could see how much
42:18it really really meant to him it was amazing amazing police work amazing police work
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