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00:00This is a very old house, going into this, you already can expect some residual energy.
00:06The neighborhood's called Hangman's Corner.
00:09I personally feel unsafe.
00:12Three deaths documented in this house.
00:15They are being attacked and kids are being affected.
00:20We want to talk to you.
00:22Should we go up?
00:23Straight footsteps.
00:24Are you the man from the Civil War?
00:27Who is that?
00:28Why do you mess with this family so much?
00:41All right, we just got a house call, and this one is very serious, and I'm calling the guys in.
00:51Hey, Jay, why is Aaron always the last one?
00:54I don't know, man.
00:54Who knows what he's doing?
00:55What is that?
00:56Is he here?
00:57Is it?
00:57What color bubble, please?
01:00Yellow.
01:02I don't even know what to say.
01:04Just let it go.
01:05Just let it play out.
01:06All right, guys, we got a call.
01:10We got a call, okay?
01:11We got a call.
01:12It's in Seymour, Indiana.
01:13It's a family, and there's claims that inside this old house, they are being attacked, and kids are being affected, and when kids get involved, it takes everything to a whole new level.
01:26I need us all to pay attention right now, and watch the submission video, please.
01:30Hi, my name is Amanda Patterson.
01:32I live in Seymour, Indiana.
01:33I live in Seymour, Indiana.
01:34We lived in this home for about three years now.
01:37After about a month, we started hearing footsteps, we started hearing loud bangs and, like, dragging sounds coming from the upstairs.
01:48We would hear people walking up and down the stairs, random voices in the distance.
01:52Since the basement's kind of creepy, it would give really, really negative energy.
01:59My daughter had an experience where she was walking up her stairs, and she felt like someone was walking behind her, and she turned around, and there was two apparitions.
02:10Both were men walking and talking to each other, but she couldn't hear anything they were saying.
02:15We've had a footprint in dust.
02:19My husband sanded the living room floor when we moved in.
02:22It is a half, like, human foot, and the other half is, like, a cloven hoof-looking thing, and it was, you know, pretty large.
02:31I've almost fallen down the stairs multiple times.
02:34It feels like I'm either being pushed, pulled, something, like, grabbed my foot and just, like, holds it on the step, so I try to go, and my upper body's going down the stairs, but my foot isn't moving.
02:48So, guys, old houses have old memories.
02:51And sometimes those memories are attributed to a very dark event.
02:55I am currently working on more research about the house, and I will call you guys with any updates that I receive.
03:04And as this is, again, in Seymour, Indiana, I will see more of you in Indiana.
03:11And do not use that joke again.
03:14I'm going to own that.
03:15Oh, we won't.
03:16We won't.
03:17We won't.
03:17We won't.
03:17Because you won't.
03:19Okay, thank you.
03:19Yeah, because it was that good.
03:21Okay, Aaron, make sure you pack all your snacks, all your little Ziploc baggies of snacks.
03:26You got all that ready?
03:27I usually buy it when I get there and then prep it, but this time I'll be prepped before because you just said that.
03:33Thank you.
03:33Serious case, guys.
03:35Remember that.
03:36Remember.
03:36Okay, our decisions, our evidence, our conclusion can make a big impact on the lives of this family.
03:43I will call you guys soon.
03:44Have a safe flight.
03:45We're on it.
03:46Thanks, sir.
04:01All right, boys.
04:03We're in Seymour, Indiana.
04:04Yeah, you're not going to see much more than this.
04:07Well, I bet you see more if you're driving around in Indiana.
04:10Oh!
04:12Hey!
04:13Is that?
04:13Oh, I could.
04:15What did you see?
04:16Is Seymour, Indiana?
04:19Hey, buddy.
04:19So real quick, I just researched and found three confirmed deaths.
04:24Wow.
04:24Wow.
04:25So I've got one in 1906 of an Albert Leeson.
04:28He was a homeowner and a union veteran of the Civil War who unexpectedly passed away right
04:34in his kitchen.
04:35Wow.
04:35And then in 1942, there's a J.J.
04:39Rotman, and he was found dead inside after a three-month-long illness.
04:43And then, in 1989, a Shannon Wayne Champ tragically passed away within the residence and was found
04:51dead hanging inside the house.
04:53Oh, my God.
04:55Three deaths documented in this house.
04:58Yes, sir.
04:58Since they contacted us, Amanda has reported two attacks.
05:03Her leg was pulled while she slept.
05:06And then her husband woke up with a pain in his shoulder and then found a bruise.
05:11So they believe that these were two attacks.
05:13This is a very old house, you guys.
05:15So going into this, you already can expect some residual energy.
05:19Yeah, for sure.
05:21Yeah, I mean, and that could be the cause of what's going on.
05:24Hi, how are you?
05:47How's it going?
05:48Come on.
05:48I'm Billy.
05:49Hi, Billy.
05:50Nice to meet you.
05:51My name's Amanda Patterson.
05:52I reached out because I personally feel unsafe.
05:57It'll just hit me.
05:58All of a sudden, like, something negative is here.
06:01I can just feel when that negative presence is in the house.
06:05And it worries me that it's like I take in that energy and I don't want to do that.
06:10And we watched your video.
06:11So, like, what's been going on?
06:13Well, everything's just been crazy.
06:15We see shadows in the mirrors in the living room.
06:18As you see, there's like a million of them.
06:19And we had a footprint by this doorway over there.
06:22I'm Charles Patterson.
06:24I'm Amanda's husband.
06:25I had restored the floors in here, sanded everything.
06:29There was dust that had been blown out from underneath the door and footprint that walked out.
06:34It was about this long.
06:35And half of it was cloven hoof.
06:37The other half was human.
06:39How long have you guys lived in this house?
06:41Uh, it'll be three years.
06:42And this house is, what, 120-something years old?
06:46123 years old, yeah.
06:47There is no telling what kind of entities inhabit a home that is this old.
06:53A lot of life and death usually create a unique and powerful presence.
06:58I am, um, personally worried about my mental health because of the negative feelings that
07:06the one entity brings.
07:11It gives me a sense of, like, I don't belong here.
07:15It's unnerving.
07:16It's unsettling.
07:17Not that I want to harm myself, but it kind of gives me that feeling.
07:21This all started when you moved here, or was it, like, over time?
07:24I would say within two weeks of us living here.
07:27Do you know the history of who's died in the house?
07:30Two people that we know of.
07:31The champ guy hung himself from the top of the banister.
07:35So, like, he'd be hanging right here?
07:37Yes.
07:38Yeah, it's, like, a little bit more this way.
07:39It's kind of right here.
07:40Yeah, it looks straight up.
07:42Oh, yeah.
07:43And it'll smell like urine or feces sometimes when we walk by.
07:48This suicide of Shannon Wayne Champ on November 16th, 1989, is a paramount incident regarding
07:57this haunting.
07:58Events like this are severely tragic and have an intense impact on the energy in the home.
08:12Who do you think the other person that died in the house was?
08:151940-ish.
08:16A long-term illness is what it said in the paper.
08:19There's a third death in the house that we found that was documented.
08:23Oh, did you guys know about that?
08:24The original owner, a Union Civil War soldier, and he died at the kitchen table, I believe.
08:31Yeah, like, suddenly, and they don't know why.
08:32Suddenly.
08:33You got layers.
08:34Yeah, that's...
08:35Three deaths, so...
08:36Yeah.
08:36We love if you can show us around and kind of give us a little more specifics about where
08:40things are happening, and I think it'll be good.
08:42We should grab some equipment while we're walking around, and...
08:44Jay's going to be taking full-spectrum photos.
08:49I'm going to be taking trifeld readings, and Aaron's going to be taking Polaroids.
08:53In the living room, this mirror in particular, I see shadow people just, like, walk through,
09:00but to me, it doesn't look like a reflection.
09:02It looks like they're in the mirror.
09:04I see it, like, every time I'm in the living room, so I don't even hang out in here.
09:06The basement is where I personally feel the most uneasy.
09:12I drink coffee, and I smoke cigarettes, and when it's cold, I do it in the basement, and
09:19I've lost eight coffee cups, been thrown off the floor, and these are the stairs that I
09:24feel the most where I'm being stopped.
09:27Anything on the meter, Bill?
09:28There were some small spikes at the top of the stairs before we entered when she was
09:33talking about the coffee cups, so...
09:35Set my coffee on the kiln, and then I always scoot it back, and it'll just fly off.
09:41What would you say is the most uncomfortable place in the house?
09:44In the basement.
09:44In the basement.
09:45Yeah.
09:46Back in there, it'll feel like something's peeking at you from behind different tubs and boxes.
09:51I don't know.
09:54That basement kind of is weird to me.
09:58This is our bedroom.
10:00I woke up in the middle of the night, and it looked like she was being drug out of the
10:03bed.
10:03The cover's moved.
10:05I've woke up with shoulder and arm hurting, feeling like I've been drug out of the bed.
10:14Aside of the shadows, the deaths, and the physical attacks, it's the interaction with
10:20the children that is always concerning.
10:25My name's Kennedy Kendall.
10:27Have you experienced anything in this room?
10:30I had records on the wall, and it looked like something came through it, because the
10:34records went like this.
10:36Oh, wow.
10:36Oh, like instead of just falling over, they opened up?
10:39It was weird.
10:40I don't know why.
10:41Yeah.
10:42And then the second time, they did fall down.
10:44This is our youngest son's room, Carson.
10:53My name is Carson Brault.
10:54Carson.
10:55Yeah.
10:56What do you experience in your bedroom?
10:57Um, voices.
10:59You hear voices.
11:00Men or women or?
11:02Uh, both.
11:03Can you ever tell what they're actually saying?
11:05No.
11:06Just kind of like a mumble?
11:07Yeah.
11:08At one point, he had black lights, and we turned them on and noticed that there is
11:14a stained body shaped.
11:18It's biological fluid, because it glows under black light.
11:21It glows, yeah, it glows under the, and it's shaped like a human body.
11:23It's shaped like a human body.
11:25The house was also a boarding house for quite a long time.
11:29Forties, fifties, and sixties, it was like an apartment building.
11:32Well, who knows if there were deaths in the house that aren't documented?
11:36Right.
11:36You know?
11:37Right.
11:37So, I have an ultraviolet camera that's used for forensics.
11:40We'll look into that for sure.
11:44The upstairs, there's one more area up here.
11:49Our daughter was living up in this room.
11:54My name is Virginia Patterson.
11:56She was walking up the stairs.
11:57She said it felt like someone was following her.
11:59I seen two figures and shadows walk up the stairs.
12:03They were about 6'5", 6'6", and stop and stand right here and look at me.
12:08And our room is right under here and I'm constantly hear footsteps.
12:12You hear footsteps from up here.
12:13From up here.
12:13I felt threatened when I saw them and it was just like they were there to invoke fear.
12:20So, this could be a good spot of something like a residual haunting that moves back and forth here.
12:24So, if we can get a camera up here would be great.
12:27I think that the bad entity that we get negative feelings for goes all around the whole neighborhood.
12:33Are they a lot of people having problems?
12:35Oh, yes.
12:35Really?
12:36Yeah.
12:36I've talked to probably eight of our neighbors and they've all experienced all kinds of things like that.
12:43I think it's the area.
12:44This was all Indian land that was stolen and murdered for.
12:48Really?
12:48All of this.
12:50So, you do have that history.
12:52Then you have the guy who was in the Civil War who died here history.
12:55That could be a disturbance.
12:57It could cause some conflict.
12:57Then leading up to everything else, but that could be the conflict.
13:00You're mixing a whole bunch of like weird, yeah.
13:03The neighborhood's called Hangman's Corner.
13:05What the f***?
13:06The Reno gang from like Old West days were actually hung on strength.
13:10Okay, now hang on.
13:11One more thing.
13:13Well, you got a hanging that happened here at the house.
13:15I wonder if it could have been one of those spirits affecting.
13:18You know, there's so many layers or who knows.
13:21Based on what happens in the house, she takes everything a little differently than I do.
13:25I'm a more practical, logical person.
13:28I have tried numerous things on my own to find out who it is, why they're here.
13:34She is so spiritual and feels everything as if it's right on the surface.
13:43You know, we appreciate you've shown us around, telling the stories.
13:46What do you feel ultimately we can do for you guys?
13:49What do you want?
13:50Understanding.
13:51Of what it is or who it is.
13:53Yeah, okay.
13:54Yeah, we'll do our best.
13:55We'll put everything we've got to it and try to get some answers for you.
13:58Definitely from being in here so far, there is different levels to this house.
14:01It feels like there's more than a handful here.
14:04Right.
14:04I have had the thought that I wanted to move.
14:09I'm concerned for my own self and my own mental health.
14:14The things that Amanda sees and hears has completely changed the way she looks at some things.
14:21They talk to her.
14:23They communicate with her.
14:25She's a little deeper involved in all of this.
14:27It's like I take in that energy and I don't want to do that.
14:30I would like to know whether the negative energy is one of the three people who passed away in the home or if it's connected to the land in the area.
14:41And I would really like for it to leave.
14:43I'm really curious to find out what kind of evidence and information I get out of all of this.
14:51It's always been a situation where I wanted to work this out.
14:57Closing the case for me, what it means is the beginning of the understanding has started.
15:04We're just about to start our investigation right now, Zach.
15:15Okay, I'm just calling to check in.
15:18How's it going?
15:19It's going great.
15:20We just finished interviews.
15:21They've left.
15:21We've got all the cameras set.
15:23We're ready to go in.
15:24We have a great game plan.
15:25The stories are pretty incredible.
15:27It's kind of a mystery.
15:28And we asked them, what is it that we can do for you?
15:31They said, we want answers.
15:32We want to know who's in our house.
15:34Does it sound demonic or more of human spirits?
15:37It really doesn't seem demonic at all.
15:39It seems like human spirits, but a lot of them.
15:41Maybe one that is angry one.
15:43We think possibly the person that hung themself or the person that was the original owner from the Civil War.
15:51We'll try to communicate.
15:52Use ITC to see if you can establish a prolonged, intelligent conversation.
16:07Oh, I thought it was you stepping.
16:20No, that sounded like by upstairs or behind you.
16:24Like, what case?
16:27Something heavy.
16:33What was that?
16:34If you're a spirit in this house, and you've been here a long time, and you're here with other spirits, and maybe you don't get along, and maybe you don't like this family that moved in, or maybe you've gotten used to them, we want to talk to you.
16:52Can you show us that you are here in this house right now?
16:56There's nobody here but the three of us.
16:57It's not shuffling upstairs?
17:04Come on.
17:04I heard that.
17:05It was right above us, so that would be in the kids' room where the mumbles.
17:10Wow.
17:11That was weird.
17:12Stomach cramp.
17:13Where?
17:14Right when we were walking up.
17:15My stomach started cramping.
17:17Point to it.
17:19Right here.
17:19Let me see.
17:20Hold on.
17:20I want to see.
17:20It was like right underneath my ribcage.
17:22Right here.
17:24Same side.
17:24Right here.
17:25Yeah, it was like a pain.
17:26It was like a little stabbing pain.
17:28Yeah, right, right.
17:30When I was walking up the steps, I got this pain right underneath my rib.
17:34Just a sharp pain for like 30 seconds.
17:36Then Bill was like, that's where mine was, and I didn't know that.
17:40I got a poke.
17:41It literally felt just like this under my ribs, and it was when I came up around the stairs to go into Carson's room.
17:48Aaron felt the exact same thing later on in the investigation, so I think that there's something to that.
17:53I think that's a clue.
17:56Wait, why is this moving?
18:06I don't feel a breeze.
18:09Yeah, but if the heater could blow it, it blows it in my room.
18:11Oh, there it is.
18:17They're coming out.
18:18Okay.
18:19Deep on.
18:21Should we go up?
18:25Jay can't see us up here, but...
18:27Yeah, I'm going to do polter potting.
18:28Are you the man from the Civil War?
18:33Look, we're just here to get some answers, if you could help us.
18:36It'll make it easier for you to live with these people, and for them to live with you.
18:40You just heard something back here, too?
18:42Yeah.
18:43We both did it at the same time.
18:44Yeah.
18:45I'm getting a pain, and guess where?
18:46Where?
18:47Where he got it.
18:49Right in his collarbone area, his shoulder.
18:51Really?
18:53Did he do that?
18:54It's a female?
18:56I'm serious.
18:57It feels like someone pushed their finger down on it.
18:58It was like painful.
18:59Well, he woke up with bruises and stuff.
19:01Dude, that was weird.
19:03My feeling is when spirits do things to your physical body, they cause a poke in the ribs
19:09or maybe a sore shoulder.
19:11I think that's them trying to convey to you what they went through, or to give you a message
19:15physically by messing with your electrical system in your body, causing pain.
19:19Maybe it is a clue to one of the deaths in this house.
19:24Right.
19:24To go, hey, I felt this.
19:28And turn the polter pod on where we both felt that pain under our rib cage.
19:40We're just trying to help this family out.
19:42You live with them.
19:43You should understand that.
19:45You're bothering them.
19:47They want to know how they can make this better.
19:49Can I say you can?
19:58Ow.
19:58There's that pain.
20:00You're feeling it?
20:01Right under my ribs when I came in this room.
20:03That's weird, man.
20:05It's like an instant poke under your ribs.
20:08Here, grab this.
20:09Who keeps poking people in the ribs?
20:14Who's doing that?
20:17Can you tell us how many spirits are in this house?
20:25Eleven?
20:27How many spirits are in this house?
20:32Eleven?
20:33Eleven?
20:35Eleven?
20:38Eleven?
20:39Eleven?
20:39Go to that kid's room real quick.
20:41All right.
20:41All right.
20:42Since we got it on, all right?
20:45All right.
20:46We're in Kennedy's room now.
20:49Who's the spirit that's in this room that keeps messing with Kennedy's stuff?
20:52Why are you messing with the mom?
20:55What does she do to you?
21:00What does she do to you?
21:05What does she do to you?
21:05What do you say, Chessie?
21:13She's something, something.
21:16Say that again?
21:19I'll have Lauren hold it.
21:20Yeah.
21:24Who's in this house?
21:27I swear there's something walking up in here behind me.
21:31Did you just enter the room past Aaron?
21:35Did you just enter the room past Aaron?
21:44Did you just enter the room past Aaron?
21:48Don't be shy.
21:54All right.
21:55Right now, we're going to head in there, do a XLS sweep, see if we can't see anything,
21:59while you get the recorders ready.
22:01Okay.
22:01You guys do a full sweep, and I'll be ready by the time you get back.
22:05Whoa.
22:13You need that big slam again?
22:15Yeah, I heard it.
22:15Sound like the plastic going...
22:17Someone's setting down a big plastic tub.
22:18Yeah.
22:19Yeah.
22:24You heard it.
22:26That was really loud.
22:27That was really loud.
22:28What is that?
22:32That was so loud.
22:33That was so loud.
22:34So this is where they say they see the spirit from this mirror over here.
22:45That's me right there in the mirror.
22:48And in that mirror, they would see a shadow figure darting across.
22:56So all I'm really trying to do is just see if I can't capture something come through that
23:00mirror.
23:04Are you in here?
23:06Hey, Aaron, can you actually get into the kitchen?
23:09Because that is where someone died.
23:18We're just here to communicate and help this family out.
23:21That's it.
23:24So far, I've got nothing.
23:26In this room, this is where the kid actually hears, like, mumbling and talking.
23:45Someone in here know Carson?
23:51Are you feeling anything, Lauren?
23:54I'm not.
23:56Do you try to talk to Carson in this room?
24:01We can talk to you like Carson.
24:04We're listening if you want to communicate.
24:07Someone's standing right next to you on this, on the bed, but it's gone.
24:15That's the next one.
24:16Yeah.
24:17It was something.
24:18By you.
24:18Well, you were in the Civil War.
24:25If so, I need you to come and talk.
24:28It's something you need to do to help.
24:31Help this family understand what's going on and help them.
24:35Yeah.
24:35So, Aaron was up there shooting the XLS, and Billy and I are at nerve center, and we're like, oh, you should call out the actual names of the spirits.
24:41The Civil War guy is Albert Gleeson.
24:45Talk to him by name.
24:46He was the original owner who passed away in the kitchen of the house.
24:54Albert Gleeson, you here?
24:58Right when I said that.
24:59Oh, my God.
25:01It looks like he's on the ground laying there trying to stand up.
25:04Gone.
25:06Albert Gleeson.
25:08Thank you.
25:09Jay and Bill were like telling me to say the names, and when I said Albert on the XLS, all of a sudden, this guy is like laying on the floor like dead.
25:16The fact that Albert Gleeson, the first owner of this home that was a Civil War veteran, died in the kitchen in his daughter's arms, I think that that is pretty good proof that he's still here.
25:29So what I said, Bill, was this.
25:34You showed yourself.
25:35We know you're here.
25:36You can't talk to me, so I'm about to come in with talking devices.
25:39Okay.
25:39So I think it's good that you go in there right now with the recorder.
25:42Yeah, it's great that you caught that first because...
25:44Do you think that specifically they're trying to show something about death because they're inflicting the pain on you that maybe is what they felt when they died, and now they're showing you death?
25:52Jay, that's the area where this hurt you, right?
25:54Yeah.
25:55It's something specific about the death, so maybe use that when you try to communicate.
25:59Well, you two are going in now, and I'm going to stay here with Jay.
26:13This is the mirror that Amanda says that she sees things come out of.
26:17So we're going to place this EMF meter right here, the one that lights up nice and tall when it spikes to red.
26:24Jay will be able to see it from Nerve in that camera right there.
26:27I have three different digital recorders here, different models, and the frequency response on all three of them are set at different levels.
26:37So I'm going to place these upstairs, I'm going to roll them all at the same time, and I'm going to ask some questions.
26:42When I'm done with my session, I'm going to come back to the van, and I'm going to load them into Ableton and review all three of them.
26:50All right, so this is at the top of the stairs.
26:52I'm going to place these three recorders.
26:55All three recorders are on the floor.
26:58They're all set to different frequency responses.
27:01And Lauren, once you leave, I'm going to start the EVP session.
27:05I'm standing here on the stairs.
27:16Lauren is probably back.
27:20Okay.
27:21Albert Leeson, are you still in this home?
27:26Do you have a problem with the people or other spirits that are here now?
27:35When Aaron called out your name, he says that he saw you.
27:41Is that true?
27:43Did you have a heart attack, sir?
27:46All right.
27:47I'm getting up.
27:49It's me walking.
27:53Stopping recording.
27:55Stopping recording.
27:57Stopping recording.
28:05I downloaded all the files from the three different recorders, and they're all here on top of each other, stacked up, and they're synced.
28:13So you can see the waveforms of each recording are a little bit different because they're recording different frequencies.
28:20The frequency response is different on this one than this one on this one.
28:24So we're hoping, like a fishing net, we're throwing nets out there, and we're going to catch an EVP on one of these.
28:29And you can plainly see in between when I speak, there's these voids, these spaces.
28:35A lot of times, EVP will show up in here.
28:38So as I'm listening, I'm also watching the waveform.
28:41Spirits that are here now.
28:43See, that's a pause of silence.
28:46You see where the waveform, the silence has a weird wave in it?
28:50And only in one recorder.
28:51Only in one recorder did that.
28:53So what caused that?
28:54Maybe this recorder that I was recording with picked up something in that frequency response range that these two didn't.
29:03So I'll continue listening.
29:05Did you have a heart attack, sir?
29:09So we go upstairs, and the energy had shifted.
29:13We were on edge.
29:15It was very scary upstairs now.
29:17You like to pull people off beds and touch them?
29:20Why don't you touch one of us?
29:22If you want our attention, if you want to say something.
29:29I swear, can you hear it in the hall?
29:32It sounds like the floor is creaking out there.
29:34Can you hear it?
29:35Yeah.
29:35All of a sudden, in the grandparents' room, we just hear walking, full-on walking down the hallway.
29:41The floor was creaking like someone was walking in an old house.
29:44It was so clear, and we were really nervous.
29:47But Jay thought, oh, Aaron's coming in to do his experiment.
29:50It must be Aaron, out in the hall.
29:52Aaron!
29:52Aaron, did you come in the house yet?
29:54Oh, God.
30:05Aaron!
30:05I'm coming in.
30:08Wait, you're just coming in now?
30:10Yeah, I'm just coming in now.
30:12Why?
30:13Something's looking around up here!
30:15Are you serious?
30:16Yes!
30:18Once again, it's that hallway.
30:19It's the same place where Aaron called the XLS figures.
30:22The same place where Billy felt things.
30:24Everything was centered in that hallway, and we heard straight-up walking.
30:28Aaron, there's something walking around up here!
30:30We heard thuds, and then we came up, and then we went in the room, and then we heard footsteps.
30:34Yeah, they're straight footsteps.
30:36Jay was genuinely like, I think Aaron came in the house.
30:39No, I just came in.
30:41Hey, I'm going to go down and try to get that to happen.
30:44The house might be active.
30:45I think it is.
30:46All right, I'm heading down.
30:59Okay, right now, since I'm down here, this is where she'll have a smoke, and she'll sit here and drink her coffee.
31:06So, since I love coffee so much, I'm perfect for this.
31:11I'm going to sit here, and I'm going to try to get them to move this.
31:18Carson told us that he hears people talking when he's in here sleeping.
31:25Who is that?
31:30Did you have a heart attack, sir?
31:33Did you show yourself to Aaron?
31:36I'm going to place this right on top of the coffee.
31:44I don't know why you don't like coffee so much.
31:46It's delicious.
31:49And you're throwing the cups.
31:50Is there any way you can just throw this cup across the ground?
31:56Please.
32:01Why do you mess with this family so much?
32:03Why do you mess with this family so much?
32:06I don't know why you don't like coffee so much.
32:07I don't know why you don't like coffee so much.
32:11It's delicious.
32:12Is there any way you can just throw this cup across the ground?
32:16Please, if you throw that coffee cup, I'll call it your pick.
32:20Because none of us like coffee.
32:24Why do you mess with this family so much?
32:26You can hear that.
32:27It's...
32:28It's not like a Class A EVP.
32:31There's something there, though.
32:32It was just sitting right there.
32:34You could see it on the camera.
32:35All right.
32:42I just finished reviewing all three recorders, looking for any inconsistencies in the waveforms.
32:48There were no EVPs.
32:50This is something that we try and be very scientific about.
32:53By trying different frequencies, I mean, it is a lot like fishing.
32:56There were no voices, Jay.
32:58So it'll be interesting to see what you get on your recording.
33:01Exactly.
33:02And just so you know, Bill, too, this recorder is actually still rolling.
33:05Is it?
33:05Yeah, I wanted just to leave it, so when there's no one in the house for a little bit, because
33:09this is where he died.
33:10This is where his literally last moment of life was.
33:12So I thought it would be good just to let it live there for a little bit and try to capture
33:16any kind of, even if it's a residual haunting or something.
33:19I still have to watch all of the cameras and the pictures and the recordings, everything.
33:23We might find something profound.
33:25And don't you have some sort of a full-spectrum GoPro or something?
33:29It's right here.
33:29It's shooting right down.
33:30Oh, so it's shooting straight down the road.
33:32Okay.
33:32That'll be interesting to watch that, too.
33:34Because maybe if you don't get any audio, you might get something visual around the road.
33:49Hi, Amanda.
33:50How are you?
33:51I'm all right.
33:52How are you?
33:52Good.
33:53Amanda, there's a lot going on here.
33:55Before we start, how have you been?
33:59Because I'm concerned for you in particular.
34:02I've been okay mentally.
34:04Okay, good.
34:04Because my team did do a thorough cleansing and they really sent some messages to any
34:09spirits that may be trapped there.
34:11So, Billy, let's get into the evidence.
34:13Okay.
34:14Let's get into this XLS figure, which I think is one of the most remarkable pieces that we
34:20captured.
34:21Now, we're using an XLS camera.
34:23This particular camera, it uses LIDAR to create a map of a 3D image.
34:29We don't get false positives with this device.
34:31It is so absolutely precise.
34:34Now, Billy, wasn't you and Aaron, both of you felt pains under your ribs, right?
34:40When we were coming up your stairs, I felt like something was poking under my ribs on the left
34:46side, like right up under your bottom rib.
34:49Later on in the evening, Aaron is going up the stairs and the exact same thing happened to
34:54him.
34:54He goes, wow, that was weird.
34:56He didn't know that it happened to me.
34:58Watch this figure appear, but specifically watch what the figure does to her.
35:03It's quick and it appears, Billy, can you pause the moment that it appears to be...
35:16This figure appears and then it reaches out and watch what it does to Lauren and where.
35:23Oh, do you see that?
35:26It makes sense because we all have had experiences where we've just had random sharp pains.
35:32In your body.
35:33And yeah, on our sides.
35:35So as you can see, this figure clearly seems to be like stabbing the side of Lauren with
35:44its appendage, its arm.
35:46Yeah, that's insane.
35:51So now, Billy, why don't we segue into Albert Leeson?
35:55So Aaron is doing an entire scan of your home.
35:59He's going room to room.
36:00Jay and I are in the van and we said, why don't you try and reach out to the original
36:06owner, Albert, who was the Civil War veteran that died in the home in his daughter's arms
36:14on the ground?
36:15To me, this is the most incredible capture of the evening.
36:19I'll just play it.
36:20Watch this.
36:21The Civil War guy is Albert Leeson.
36:24Talk to him by name.
36:26Albert Leeson, you here?
36:29Right when I said that.
36:31Oh, my God, it looks like he's on the ground laying there trying to stand up.
36:35Pause.
36:36Gone.
36:40Mind blown.
36:41Couldn't believe that.
36:42You see that, Amanda?
36:43That's incredible.
36:44Like Billy said, Albert Leeson died in his daughter's arms, and I would presume that would maybe
36:50be on the floor.
36:51And here we capture a figure momentarily appearing to be laying on the floor and then disappear.
36:56Whew.
36:57This is a tough one.
36:59I mean, is this demonic?
37:01I do not believe so.
37:02I believe that you're in a house with a lot of old memories.
37:06There's been death there prior to the suicide, and sometimes when you stack one on top of
37:11the other, you're just building more and more residual energy, and you can feel that.
37:18You're just very susceptible to that.
37:20And you said you're feeling better.
37:22Does it feel lighter?
37:24It doesn't feel lighter.
37:26I just think that I've kind of shielded myself from everything.
37:30Okay.
37:31Did any evidence at all stick out at you, or any other thoughts, or...?
37:36I don't even know where to, you know, how to process it, really.
37:39Mm-hmm.
37:40Okay.
37:41All right, cool.
37:43Well, if you need any further assistance, will you please just let us know?
37:46I will.
37:47Okay, cool.
37:48Thank you.
37:49Thank you.
37:50All right.
37:51Thanks.
37:51Bye.
37:52Bye.
37:53Bye.
38:01We just ended the analysis with Amanda, and Billy and I just felt like something wasn't
38:13right there.
38:14Like, it just was almost a little awkward, almost.
38:18Yeah.
38:19Don't you?
38:20Yeah.
38:21I felt like she wanted to say something, but couldn't.
38:24I don't want to ever feel like that we sensed something was going on with them, and they
38:30weren't telling us, because we want to help.
38:33Can we...
38:33Should we call her back and just ask her?
38:35I think so.
38:36I think we should.
38:37Let's just get her on real quick.
38:39I just...
38:39At least it'll be closure for me asking her this question.
38:44Hey, Amanda.
38:46Hi.
38:46Hi.
38:47So, look, when we did the analysis with you, we ended it, and just Billy and I both
38:52felt a little...
38:54Maybe there's some other things that you want to tell us, or you just seemed a little quiet,
38:59and we just want to make sure that you're okay.
39:02Have you ever had thoughts of doing any harm or anything like that in the house?
39:08Um, technically, yeah.
39:10I mean...
39:11You have?
39:12I have, yeah.
39:13When we first moved here, it was...
39:15It was really bad.
39:17It was really bad.
39:19We just sensed something is not right, and I think that by hearing that, I think our senses
39:24are correct.
39:26How severe did it get?
39:28Like, it was like a overwhelming, just, like, ticking thought in the back of my brain
39:34that it would make it easy.
39:36Amanda, somebody took their life in your house with a rope, okay?
39:40You know, there's no good way to go, but that's a very dramatic, bad way to go, and a person
39:46has to be in a very, very extreme sense of darkness to do that, and did you have thoughts
39:55of doing things like that?
39:57I did, yeah.
39:58When we first moved here, it was, like, on a constant basis.
40:02Was there motivation for those thoughts?
40:04No.
40:07Are you okay now?
40:08I'm okay now, I think.
40:10I'm a little more quiet than I normally would be because I'm kind of nervous, but as far
40:19as, like, my mental status, I'm okay.
40:23Amanda, I wanted to ask you, would you want us to literally find a priest and have them
40:31come to your house and to do a blessing on the home?
40:34I don't think so.
40:35I mean, I don't feel that whatever that super negative thing, I don't think it's here anymore.
40:43Like, I don't, I haven't had any of those thoughts.
40:45I haven't had any of those, like, really negative feelings.
40:50To hear that you're doing better, that's going to help me sleep better at night.
40:54If Billy and I didn't give a s***, we wouldn't have called you back.
40:57Right.
40:57And I appreciate that.
40:59Because of this event that did happen in your house, I wanted to call somebody and just put
41:05them on a flight and give your house a formal blessing in all of this.
41:09And so, if anything starts acting up, please do not hesitate to call us and let us bring
41:16somebody there to help you and the house, okay?
41:22Yeah.
41:23Thank you.
41:23I appreciate that.
41:24You're welcome.
41:25Thank you.
41:25Bye.
41:26Bye.
41:26Bye.
41:26Bye.
41:26Bye.
41:26Bye.
41:27Bye.
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