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0:00 Introduction to Student Housing Investing
1:08 From Immigrant Family to Real Estate Success
6:07 Why Student Apartments Beat Traditional Rentals
10:20 Finding and Converting Properties Into 10-Bed Units
15:53 Building a Team to Scale to 100 Million
20:12 Student Housing Numbers and Cash Flow Analysis
21:17 Quick Questions Round: Best Real Estate Advice
26:44 Biggest Investing Mistakes and Lessons Learned
30:04 The Power of Your First Real Estate Deal
30:41 Connect With Today's Guest

SCALING STUDENT HOUSING TO 100 MILLION 🏠
In this episode of The Real Estate Investing Club podcast, I sit down with Sree Varma from Varma Properties Group to break down his incredible student housing investment strategy in the UK. If you're looking for a real estate investing strategy that generates massive cash flow and scales quickly, this conversation is packed with actionable insights you can implement immediately.

Sree shares how he transforms ordinary residential properties into premium 10-bed student apartments using the BRR strategy (buy, renovate, refinance). This isn't your typical rental property approach. By focusing on student housing near universities, Sree creates multiple income streams from a single property, dramatically increasing cash flow compared to traditional buy-and-hold investments. 🎓

THE STUDENT HOUSING ADVANTAGE 📈
What makes student housing such a powerful real estate investing niche? Sree explains why having 10 tenants in one property instead of one creates incredible financial advantages. While traditional landlords struggle with government policy changes and rising interest rates, student housing investors like Sree are thriving with rental rates between 900 to 1,000 pounds per room per month. That's roughly $1,200 USD per room in a market outside of London.

The key is creating premium experiences that students actually want. Sree doesn't just provide housing; he creates a lifestyle brand with Netflix, Spotify, cleaning services, backyard gyms, pizza nights, and private WhatsApp communities. This community-focused approach allows him to charge premium rents while maintaining high occupancy rates year-round.

Want to learn more about our guest? Connect here: sree@isportconnect.com

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00:00all right we are back with another episode of the real estate investing club i hope you guys are
00:12having a great week a great day whatever day it is for you and wherever you are as always it's
00:18friday on the podcast so we're bringing that good friday energy to you this is going to be a good
00:23episode uh we got shri varma with us here on the show for from varma properties group he is actually
00:28over across the seas over in the uk so uh bringing that international international vibe to this
00:34um he does student apartments so he buys properties converts them into 10 beds i'm gonna stop there
00:41because i want to hear from his mouth his actual strategy but that's the gist of it he always has
00:45he also has a background in sports in formula one so a lot to go into here shri i'm super excited to
00:51jump into it thanks for hopping on the show thank you for having me absolutely i told you before we
00:57got on here we always like to start with stories we like to hear how people got to where they are
01:01um so why don't you take us to the beginning of your story in real estate i know you kind of already
01:06told me before the show but let's uh let's go back to the beginning let's get into detail uh tell us how
01:11you got here yeah no absolutely um i'll try to make it short but it's a typical immigrant family so my
01:17you know i'm from an immigrant family from india we came with 150 pounds in their pocket my parents
01:24pocket and then we survived for a few months with that sort of thing and um i was so i was always
01:30driven to just come out of that to you know be successful and then uh yeah i did my mba during
01:37when i was doing mba i was also trying to do uh uh you know side hustles to pay for my university fee
01:44so when my friends were partying i was actually trying to sell my mates parents uh you know the
01:50second hand clothes and these and sort of things i was trying to pay my bills uh and also at that
01:56time the um yeah the websites you know the the internet was just uh picking apps and so i started
02:03learning how to code and create a websites and things like that so i was trying to sell um websites
02:10to the local uh establishments like the restaurants and shops etc so i was trying to you know have a lot
02:15side hustles do it all yeah yeah yeah exactly and and then i did my mba and then i started working
02:21for different corporate um companies and organizations and i ended up in a formula one
02:27media business and i was uh running i was the commercial director for a few years and then
02:31running for a few years and then left and started my own sport business um a private network called
02:37iSport Connect which is now the world's largest private network for sport business professionals from
02:42us to uk to europe to asia and we got 26 000 sea level to middle level expertise in sport
02:48and it was flying and then covid happened and during covid it's a service-based business
02:55you know it was it was really hit by not just my business a lot of business in the sport industry
03:02and that opened my eyes because i had a lot of time and you know i was looking at okay
03:06what if another comment happens what i need to have a you know i need to make sure i have a future
03:13proof uh businesses and things like that so i started reading rich dad poor dad and of course
03:19talking to you know other property developers uh watching youtube videos and listening to podcasts
03:25like yours um and realized that um you know it's good to also have a asset back to business as well
03:33so that you know it will feed you even in the bad good times and bad times so i got into properties
03:40um in 2021 um and 2023 onwards it became a serious business but the first two years i was trying to
03:47learn so what what i do is i do very much a brr strategy which is buy below market value
03:54uh add value and then refinance at the end take the money out and then go again and again
04:00um i use investor finance so i at the beginning i used my money so you can only go so far with
04:07your own money so i started raising money so we now have 35 um retail investors mainly from my
04:15industry which is sport so there's a lot of wealthy people in the industry and they you know if they
04:20put the money in the bank account you know they don't get much interest or returns so we
04:26obviously they they um they invest in our business and we use that investment to um buy
04:32properties under below market value and then we convert them into student apartments in
04:38um a you know a place called gilly fed at the moment um it's uh there's the university of surrey
04:44which is which has 18 000 students uh and we create really premium uh student apartments uh with
04:52the netflix and sportify cleaning you know just uh the gym in the back the back garden um and and
05:00it's almost like a hotel um the way we run it and we have pizza and beer nights we have um a private
05:07whatsapp group for them we have like a meat growth meet because a lot of our students and so we have
05:12once in a while we get together with them etc so we create a co-living brand for them to uh
05:19feel they are part of the community uh so we've been running that and uh yeah so that's what we've
05:26been doing for the last couple of years and um our plan is to hit 100 million uh portfolio in five
05:33years time so uh there's a five-year strategy to achieve that nice man i love it um so you know a lot
05:41of questions pop into my mind the first the first one that kind of gets gets me interested is why
05:49student apartments so you got into you got into real estate in 2021 um and usually people start they
05:55start in you know long-term rentals and they go to multifamily and then they kind of branch out from
06:00their student uh student housing is a very unique a very a very niche um product obviously there's a
06:06lot of opportunity there but i'm curious what kind of brought you to want to get into that niche
06:10so i started with other strategies the long-term vitalites and things like that um and then
06:17obviously um in the uk market you know there's a few government changes and suddenly the interest
06:23rate gone off the roof and things like that so the sort of typical vitalite student you know
06:28working for uh many of us and then i thought okay and and i live in wimbledon which is not far from
06:35guildford where these universities and i started exploring other strategies and then i realized
06:41um there is an amazing opportunity here if i focus on student apartments because you're not just
06:47depending on one you know from a one apartment not just from one income you have 10 tenants in one
06:55apartment and then you have 10 rents coming etc so you have much better return uh and much bigger
07:02better cash flow compared to the uh single bite to let's and things like that so that's why
07:07sort of changing my strategy um to be honest my the government policies forced me to change the
07:13strategies and actually i don't you know i'm enjoying it because no regrets no regrets there you go
07:22nice so yeah let's dig a little bit further into the strategy itself student housing um obviously you
07:29you know you're aiming at students so you're you're definitely you're geo focused you you want to be
07:34very close to universities to community college places where students are obviously um so what are
07:41you where are you looking for like how far away from a university do you search uh what type of
07:45properties are you looking for um before covid people used to happy to you know walk and and take a
07:54public transport etc at least in the uk towns it's became a bit lazy they they like to they like to
08:01not only in the uk don't worry about it so they like to be as close as possible to where they get to
08:08um whether university or college so we created that we have a map in our office where we you know that's
08:15our sort of uh area where we are looking to buy as always and then we work with a couple of
08:22the local agents we build our own brand we have a youtube accounts we we put our brand in all of
08:28our projects so we are visible so we work closely with the local estate agents um so they always come
08:35to us now because we buy using cash so they know we can complete within 28 days within a month usually
08:42the property transaction in the uk is very slow so like three to four months um and these agents need
08:49to get commission from the sales to all of that you know and and i i you know i they know i'm very
08:55quick in in these transactions using cash so people come to me now saying we got a an opportunity before
09:01we put on the open market we want to see if you like to buy so they always come to us so we work with
09:07the estate agents we work with um probate um and these when you know when people pass away then their
09:15families want to get rid of those properties and then we work with the reposition agencies so there
09:20are a lot of banks and building institutions societies when they um repossess the properties
09:26they give to these agencies they come to us so so i build on the sort of 3d strategy in depth
09:33debt and divorce and and also like i said a good relationship with the local agents to put you
09:39know get there so without me going the market looking for properties now i am getting people
09:45coming to me um but one because i'm a cash buyer second i have a brand reputation now and third we
09:52have this visibility of a brand around um around that area so that's how we a lot of networking that to
09:58find the deals um in terms of your criteria i mean you mentioned ted but 10 beds earlier uh in i mean
10:05where i live there are zero almost zero houses that come with 10 beds it's just not a thing
10:11so that means you have to do some some type of construction to these houses to to take that
10:16capacity um what are you looking for for the footprint and what do you have to do to it to to fit your um your
10:22strategy yeah so what we do is we in the uk we call different class systems so so you have a c3 class
10:30which is the residential where you know the houses where we live um the the co-living hmos we call
10:37them they are c4 so what i do is i look for c3 which is the residential homes with minimum 100 square
10:45meter uh with um the opportunity to go to the back to or side and so we pull the loft yeah and convert
10:54the loft so for that you don't need planning so planning takes ages in the uk it's very slow so i
11:03want to do this you know we are trying to do 20 projects a year so that means we want to finish one
11:08a 10 projects every six months um so for that reason we have to do everything under something called
11:14permit to development if we have permit to development um criteria you don't need planning
11:20everything can be done without asking for permission so if you go up to three square meters to the
11:25back or to the side or going to the loft you don't need planning so i stick to that sort of
11:31criterias and i look for those sort of properties and then we just yeah straight to it i don't even
11:38go and view the properties i get my architect and planning consultant to go and see them because
11:43there's no point me going first and thinking i'm guessing all the works whereas i get my experts
11:48i call them my power team i have it i use my power team for different decisions and then i take the
11:56credit but it's all so yeah so the main criteria is to make sure we can do everything under permitted
12:03development so we don't need planning to convert into this three-bed house usually it comes with a
12:09massive reception in the front we convert that into one of the bedrooms with all the rooms have
12:15en-suites so we also make sure they are big size houses big rooms so what we do is we look for a big
12:22reception and then we convert that in an en-suite bedroom at the en-suite in the front then you've got
12:28the kitchen and dining room as a big open lounge kitchen and then we go to the back to have two
12:34bedrooms uh again with en-suites so you have three three bedrooms in ground floor then in the first
12:42floor we reconfigure the three bedrooms to have en-suites as well so then so you have another
12:49six so another three so now we have six then we go to the loft and there we try to um have
12:57two in the back and one in the front so that you get nine and then we try to squeeze in another one
13:05in the side of the ground floor as well so not always we get 10 but we try to get it yeah so it
13:13sounds like you're almost i mean you're probably not taking it down to the studs but you're definitely
13:17doing a lot of reconfiguration um within the walls yeah people love that because they they see the
13:23before and after you know those floor plans i'm just gonna say good for their instagram
13:28because we usually show the first when i present i get invited to speak at the events etc and then
13:35i actually put this first floor plan on the uh big screen before floor plan and say this is a
13:41three-bed house and we convert this into i don't know eight nine or ten so how you know it's just
13:46and then we start showing all of this and and i can see this excitement in people's faces
13:51um and that's the excitement i have as well when you do that yeah um so what is i mean you got 10
13:5810 individual units in there so what are what's the square footage of one unit uh we try to have
14:04minimum 10 square meter uh 10 square meters so it's like 100 100 square feet 100 and i don't know how
14:12to do that completely yeah yeah yeah that's okay okay yeah i was gonna say when when i was in college
14:19i lived basically in a in a closet so you don't need much i mean i was sharing with another mate
14:25there you go oh yeah no so and also we give like i said tv in every room we have uh really high spec
14:34beds mattresses the uh laptop desk the wardrobe the chest of drawers uh mirror so it's fully furnished
14:43that was going to be my next question yep okay we get netflix spotify we have cleaning uh we have
14:51like i said we have we now started having gym in the guard back garden because in the uk we have this
14:57back long back up so it is underutilized and kids they don't use the garden they just sit in there
15:03so we thought how can we optimize that space and then uh and also a lot of them wants to do you know
15:09go to gym and they all care about their wellness and health and so we thought okay why don't we add
15:15value by creating a gym in the um back garden so they can go and um so we divide that gym into sort
15:22of two you know one is the way uh people can do the you know the um the weights and everything else
15:29the other one is almost like a yoga area if they want to do meditations or yoga and things like that
15:34so yeah nice very cool um and you also mentioned i mean you guys are also throwing events at these
15:42at these locations so there's an additional layer of amenities that you're putting on top of just the
15:46structure itself um what additional type of you know coordination uh um your team like how big how
15:54big are you building your team in order to take that on yes so not just the events but they are all
15:59ideas to like i said i have this 100 million vision you know the the five years so so yeah to achieve
16:05that i divide that into 12 months and then six months um uh in a sort of target so if i use 100
16:14million that means 20 million per you know 12 months that means six months um i need to do 10 projects
16:22so you know just i'm making it simple uh simplifying this in order to achieve that i need to have
16:27what i did is i divide the team into three one is the acquisition stage the other one is the
16:33construction stage and the third is the asset management stage acquisition stage i have an
16:38operations manager steph and myself and us and then a third guy who look after the investors so what we
16:45do is we look for the right you know mainly i'm i'm the one who's doing that looking for the right deal
16:50um and then looking for investments uh which my um hugo my colleague he he managed the relationship
16:58the retail investors and steph is the operation manager making sure we're doing the on the legal
17:04works the paperwork's everything else the tech stack and all of that and once it goes through the
17:10acquisition stage and everything is ready the legals are done we got the keys then straight away pass it to
17:17uh we have four project managers so each of them sort of manage uh five project each so we have
17:2420 projects that way um so they look after that process their role is to make sure we deliver on time
17:32with the quality and within the budget which is most important thing um and they manage that and they
17:38report to me and again steph the operation managers you know obviously managing all of that for me as
17:45well throughout those three stages but each stage have different um key uh key personnel who are
17:52looking after those projects so once the construction is done these four project managers then then they
17:57pass it to the next team which is that's a management team which is a guy called tom he he he meant
18:04there's a little caitlin they they're then looking looking for tenants compliance certificates because
18:11these uh co-living uh apartments in the uk we have a lot of uh legal compliance that we need to
18:17we have to have uh uh fire systems uh smoke alarms emergency lighting fire strip doors it's like a hotel
18:27you know we have very strict um compliance and rules here so we need to make sure we have all of that in
18:33place we have the gas certificate we have electricity certificate we have fire system fire certificate all of
18:39those things so um so all of that is done by the asset management team so we have these three teams
18:45just making sure we have uh we look tough and then on top of that we have this i call it associates um
18:52the architect the structural engineer my broker my league the solicitor making sure they all are doing
19:00their jobs with my my own team uh as well so so it's it's internal and external team working together
19:07um almost like a sausage factory you know just uh and it's going well and and the power i call them
19:15they are my power team i mean i i appear in podcasts and i you know get interviewed and things like that
19:20but the real work is done behind the scenes and i take the credit yeah yeah the team is what gets it done
19:27that's for sure um so real quick uh we are running down the time um but before we move on i always
19:33like to talk numbers what are you running each uh each unit at uh um so we buy for the houses we bought
19:41for half a million okay and then we um we we spend around 150 to 200k uh pounds and then the end
19:52ngdv is around 800 000 750 to 800 000 is the okay and then we get 75 percent mortgage on that 800 000
20:03so that is enough for us to take the money out and go again and again yeah so is that what your
20:10question was uh well that would be my second question my original question was what what do you
20:14rent uh what are the students paying in rent oh so there's already the rents yeah so um so ours is
20:20a bit um because we are very premium so usually those rooms uh you rent out for uh 600 to 700 pounds
20:27per month ours we says ours is minimum 900 so we we rent out from 900 to 1000 pounds per month okay i
20:37mean that's uh that's that's still you know if you if you're going out there and renting a full
20:42apartment or renting a full house that's much much lower than that uh that rent so it still fits the
20:47need it's still you know you're a student you don't have money 900 i don't know what the conversion
20:52rate is but 900 pounds seems like uh around one i would say one thousand two hundred dollars okay
20:59yeah yeah yeah that sounds sounds about right yeah but then but this is not london bryce we are in
21:05gilford which is but you know it's not if it's in london you're talking about probably
21:09almost two thousand dollars too much makes sense all right man well uh that wraps it up we have to
21:18go on to the quick question round are you ready yeah i'm ready let's do it starts with education it
21:24could be any form it could be a book you've read a conference you've gone to a mentorship program
21:28you've been a part of i just need two recommendations one for general life wisdom and then one for real
21:33estate um or can i just uh share my experience or without so we what we're looking for is a
21:43recommendation that you can give uh an educational recommendation that you can give the listeners
21:47um for one general life wisdom to uh real estate or business okay i mean definitely the rich dad show
21:55i'm a massive fan of that because i listen to that because it really changes your perception about
22:00finance and uh financial education so that definitely that one uh which um then when it comes to uh real
22:08estate i have to select one in the uk i'm sorry but uh um there's a guy called samuel leads um he he
22:15does a lot of podcasts uh and youtube shows which uh which is sometimes controversial but it's um but
22:22sometimes it's i mean it's great that's how i started uh my education by listening to him and
22:30watching his youtube video yeah but no podcasts are a great way to just get a basic foundational
22:36understanding of of different assets of how real estate works um and i feel like i mean mostly in
22:42all in most democratic countries real estate functions very similar and so if you understand
22:47how it works in the uk you understand how it works in the us yada yada so all right moving us on to the
22:52next question this is for your younger self let's go back to the shri who was uh still in the sports
22:58world and formula one go to him look him in the eye give him one piece of advice moving forward
23:05well one thing i would say is that i mean this definitely changed my perception about things is
23:10not all that is bad so there is a good debt and bad debt yeah um you know taking credit card uh for
23:20going to your holidays and or buying cars and things like that is bad debt but good that is where
23:26you're actually raising finance to buy assets and then they will generate cash flow for you which is
23:33much higher than the interest you pay for that debt and good debt is is leveraged that generates money
23:40for you absolutely and i feel like that is the the main message from rich dad for dad is uh you know
23:47you gotta you gotta the debt that you take on actually will be making money from you because
23:51we grow up thinking every debt is bad you know the society always taught us that that is bad
23:58um yeah yeah there's a there's a big guy uh or a big influencer here called dave ramsey i'm sure you
24:05might have heard of him yeah he's he's really big about not taking on debt um i feel like his audience is
24:10a little bit different but i've always when i hear that i'm like you really should distinguish between the
24:14different types of debt you can be taking on because there is good debt some debt is actually
24:18very helpful to you so that is a that's a good lesson to learn i'm going to move us on to the
24:23next question this is usually it's about the us but you're over there in the uk so i'm going to um
24:28take it over to the uk so what metro what city in the uk are you most excited about investing in today
24:35um definitely not london because london is much as um so i am looking at potentially going to not
24:41north of the uk so a place for newcastle um um that's my next investment uh target area purely
24:49because saudi uh invested in their football club the soccer club in newcastle uh there's a lot of
24:55investment coming to the place and i think that's the place for the next uh 10 years to grow all right
25:02i love it all right next question you've already kind of touched on this a little bit but i'm going
25:07to ask it one more time and you can kind of wrap it up in a bow um it all starts with getting in
25:12contact with the seller and pending that purchase agreement so what is your favorite way to generate
25:17leads and find new deals definitely network and building relationships and the personal brand is so
25:26important because people buy from people and if an agent wants to come and give you a deal they need
25:32to trust you so your reputation and your personal brand is so key for that yeah and that's always
25:38why i like to recommend um everybody out there if you have the inclination to start a podcast it's a
25:43great way to build your personal brand a great way to build authority and it's also a lot easier once
25:48you get the ball rolling once you get kind of the the operations behind you worked out all you do is
25:53sit down on a friday and have a couple conversations with great people who know a lot about an asset class
25:58that you don't and uh and it really builds your personal brand so i always like to recommend um
26:03when you are you know trying to build that authority that personal brand get on podcasts start your own
26:09podcast anything like that i totally agree i mean instead of paying thirty thousand dollars for a
26:14mastermind or guru to start a podcast for 30 pounds or whatever you know just buy a simple mic and start
26:21interviewing people and you can learn from them and grab their wisdom so it's a free free education for
26:27you and build your personal brand absolutely all right next question is about lessons learned not
26:34every deal that we get into goes the way we expect it in fact just about every deal something is going
26:39to go wrong and that's when we get to learn a lesson so what was a deal that went a little
26:43bit sideways for you and then what was the lesson you pulled from it so this was the initials um you
26:50know the the early stages when i thought every deal is fantastic for me and you look at the
26:55another business and everything else and you try to make it work even when you know there is there
27:02is a chance they don't work so this was i mean first deal was really good second deal was good
27:07the third deal i think i became a bit you know uh you can say it cocky you got overconfident
27:15i can use that word here but there you go yeah so i was a bit cocky and then i thought oh this is
27:20it was fine i would make it work and i paid probably over by 20 000 pounds um because i
27:28won that deal because you know the same street as the other two and everything else um so and then
27:34obviously i also misjudged on the the um construction cost and everything else so anyway i ended up paying
27:41more than i should have paid and then at the end i couldn't get the ddb i want so i ended up leaving
27:48some money which is fine over you know the years it will be fine but i should have stick to my you
27:53know my numbers and discipline so warren buffett always said that you don't have to be the smart
27:58test but it just be most disciplined and and i didn't do that and that's my learning uh from yeah
28:05yeah and that lesson has been echoed you know your episode 500 something that has been echoed across
28:11so many different episodes on this podcast um you know people investors we really get excited
28:16especially when we're just just getting started we get excited about deals and then we start to fudge
28:20fudge the numbers in our mind we're like oh this doesn't matter that much that doesn't matter that
28:25much uh but never do that stick to your criteria to the t to never deviate from it if it doesn't if
28:32the numbers don't work out it's it just doesn't work out and that that's all there is to it you can't
28:36uh you can't do anything about that so you have to walk away it's the hardest thing you're gonna do but
28:40you're not gonna you're gonna regret it if you go forward with the deal that doesn't stick it to your
28:45criteria um i've made that mistake myself and so it's something that you know you just don't want
28:51to learn the hard way how about that all right um and so that's the lesson learned let's go to the
28:57highlight reel we all have those deals that kind of stand out in our mind they are the they're the
29:01stars the ones that everything was just kind of aligned and uh and so we really enjoyed the deal
29:06and we got a um you know had a good roi at the end what's a deal that kind of stands out in your
29:11mind is your highlight deal it has to be my first ever student apartments because i didn't join any
29:17courses or anything i just learned by doing it and i i did the calculator risk and everything else but i
29:24stick to my you know numbers everything and i created my power team of architect and i said to them i'm
29:29going to do this with you guys we have to do it together and the numbers is really i mean it did work
29:36but it's the it's about doing the first deal it's just that mindset you know just i can do it
29:43um and and that's the reason why i still love that deal this is the best there are some amazing
29:49deals i've done already in the last um 24 months and more than that now um but i still love my first
29:57deal because uh not the numbers because it helped me to build you know give me that confidence and
30:05say you can do this um so yeah yeah doing the deal that proves the model to you is so important and uh
30:12it's always why i like to tell people listening um if you guys are out there you haven't done a deal
30:17yet just get the first one done it doesn't have to be a home run just has to make a little bit of
30:21money but it'll give you the confidence to get that ball rolling you're 10 years down the line
30:26you're gonna be so thankful that you did you just need that first deal to kind of prove the model to
30:30you um all right and that leads us to the very last question this is for the listeners you've given us
30:37a lot to think about i'm sure people want to reach out get in contact with you uh this is a two-parter
30:41where can they find you and then what can they expect when they reach out um they can reach out to
30:46me on linkedin um if you type my name street warmer on uh on linkedin maybe you can put on your show
30:54note um and they could ask me one or two advices um no selling but any advices i'm always here to
31:04advise people uh i do give some advices if i can um so yeah anything to do with the properties
31:10entrepreneurship or business i'm always here to help perfect i will put that link in the show notes so if
31:16you guys want to reach out all you got to do is click the little more in the description it's
31:19going to pull down that full description and in there you can find shrie's links all right man
31:25that wraps it up thank you very much for helping on the show i really enjoyed it thank you absolutely
31:31for everybody who's with us today thank you guys for showing up you are the reason we do this so if
31:35you guys have any questions reach out to me gabe at the real estate investing club.com if you guys
31:40want to support the show all you got to do is leave us a review other than that i hope you guys have a
31:44great week keep rocking real estate and i look forward to seeing you on the next episode
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