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The Young And The Restless – Episode 10-8
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00:00You're stubbornness in regard to Cain Ashby.
00:03I mean, you're so willing to give that imposter son of yours the benefit of the doubt.
00:11Despite his lies and deceit.
00:13Well, we got past that ages ago, Cain and I.
00:17Well, apparently the lies and deceit are sticking around,
00:21otherwise we would never have heard of Aristotle Dumas.
00:25Nicky, I am not blind to Cain's imperfections.
00:32What, Cain's imperfections? Well, that's such a gentle way of describing it.
00:37Well, we all have our soft spots, don't we, Victor?
00:43Even you, believe it or not.
00:45Which is why I'm just a little bit curious about this visit today.
00:49What about it?
00:50Well, you know that I have a bond with Cain,
00:53even though you don't think it's justified,
00:56and it was made even stronger by my relationship with his father.
01:01So, I am baffled as to why you are so confident
01:07that you can change the way I feel about him
01:10with something you could, what, do or say?
01:15Come on.
01:17I'm on the edge of my seat.
01:19Hope I'm not catching you at a bad time.
01:40Not at all.
01:42I've been expecting you.
01:43I see you're dressed for the occasion.
01:46Morning.
01:48Rough night?
01:48Uh, you know, I didn't sleep very well.
01:52Probably jinxed myself right into Billy.
01:53I slept like a baby.
01:55Oh, I could think of a more obvious reason than that.
01:58Oh?
01:59Your conscience is finally waking up.
02:01It's giving you a hard time.
02:03You know, huh?
02:16Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
02:19Oh, oh, oh, oh.
02:20Oh, oh.
02:20Oh, oh, oh, oh.
02:20Oh, oh.
02:21Let me ask you, Jill, are you even aware of the danger that Cain poses?
02:49Well, I've heard rumblings, you know, and your wife gave me a brief tutorial before you got here.
02:57Well, take me out of the equation. You know that he's targeting everyone in this town, everyone you have known and do know and have had relationships with and are even related to.
03:11I wouldn't want anything to happen to you either.
03:14Oh, that's so touchy.
03:18Um, but as I told Nicky, the threat is over.
03:22Hmm. How so?
03:24I had a long talk with Cain and my sense is that he has just backed off any attack whatsoever. In fact, he regrets even considering that path. So the coast is clear. You can come out of your bunkers. There isn't going to be a war.
03:42Interesting. You're referencing my conscience.
03:46Oh, why is that?
03:48I just assumed you've all come to the conclusion that I didn't have one.
03:52Well, you've made it awfully easy to think that way.
03:56Hmm.
03:58Have you talked to Billy?
04:00I have.
04:01So you know we're not working on any projects together. I cut ties with him, so that should make you happy.
04:07Well, that depends.
04:09On what?
04:10On why you got involved with him in the first place.
04:13I'm sure Billy's told you all about it.
04:15Well, I'd love to hear your version. I mean, why would you play carrot and stick for months on end, stringing Billy along, making giant promises only to snatch it all the way at the last minute? Do you just like playing mind games? Is that it?
04:29No, seriously, I would like to know. What could any of us have done to deserve being played like that?
04:48Do you think Sharon's going to be okay?
04:50Because of what you told her about Mariah?
04:52Yeah. I mean, it's probably pretty tough hearing that your daughter might have tried to kill someone.
04:58I probably shouldn't get my mouth shut.
05:00I think that she already knew something was up with her.
05:03Yeah, but after everything she's been through this year, did I really have to dump it on her? I mean, it was kind of selfish. She's so fragile.
05:12Not so much anymore.
05:14What do you mean?
05:16I've seen Sharon and experienced her when she's gone off the rails, and that's not who she is anymore.
05:23I think that she can tell her anything. I think that she really wants to help, and we're talking about her daughter here.
05:28She wants to know what's going on with Mariah just as bad as you do, if not even more so.
05:32Oh, I know you're right. You're right. I just, I don't feel very sure of myself lately.
05:38Hey, you're doing great. A lot better than I would be.
05:43I doubt that very much.
05:45I'm serious. I mean, you are a warrior. Mariah's lucky to have you in her corner.
05:50Wow. I mean, I don't feel like much of a warrior right now.
05:54I just wish I could get it out of my head that Mariah might be in danger from the man that she attacked.
06:01Well, that's on me. I mean, I'm the one who put that out there.
06:05No, but it's possible, right?
06:08Even if it is, Mariah is safe at the clinic in Boston.
06:13And this guy, whoever he may be, if he is some kind of threat, he can't get to her there.
06:20Maybe we need to get to him first.
06:27Please forgive me, but I find it very hard to believe that a man who has deceived the world for the last six years
06:35was finally seeing the error of his ways.
06:38Yeah, but he has regrets about everything.
06:42And he was much more honest and forthcoming than Billy was, I can tell you that.
06:47That's because Billy felt that you betrayed him with Chancellor. Of course he's going to put up a wall.
06:53And because Cain wants to keep his relationship with you on the best of terms.
06:59You make everything sound so transactional.
07:03But it is, isn't it?
07:04No, not between Cain and me. I mean, I know how jaundiced you are, but he and I care about each other deeply. We do.
07:15So you tell each other everything, hold nothing back?
07:19What are you suggesting?
07:21Either you're lying to us, or he's lying to you.
07:27I am talking about how Cain really built his little empire.
07:33Have you heard the real story?
07:35It isn't pretty.
07:37See, you keep trying to make it personal, Jack. It's just business.
07:47Not for Billy, it wasn't.
07:49No, it was very personal when Aristotle Dumas called out of the blue dangling promises of Chancellor.
07:57Well, he could have hung up the phone.
07:59You knew he wouldn't.
08:01You knew it was exactly what he wanted to hear.
08:06And then you ghosted him.
08:08Only to come back a little while later with more deals that never went anywhere and on and on and on.
08:15Knowing it would crush him.
08:17That is a new level of cruelty even for you, Cain.
08:21Okay, well, I can acknowledge Billy's level of investment, but can you honestly stand there and tell me that you think it was a healthy one?
08:30Oh, if you want to compare unhealthy obsessions, you might look in the mirror and ask yourself, how much is enough?
08:37I'm guessing the answer is there is no such thing.
08:41It wouldn't be worth all this effort otherwise.
08:43No, you have pretty much everything you want, don't you?
08:47So I'm the rarest of all birds. A completely satisfied man.
08:51I wasn't talking about your personal life.
08:54That sounds like a total mess from what I can gather.
08:58Well, yeah, we're all works in progress, Jack.
09:03But to answer your previous question, I wasn't playing Billy out of a grudge against him.
09:10No, the fact is, we're just too much alike.
09:14Both inveterate loners, a little erratic.
09:17Quite honestly, neither of us play very well with others.
09:19Sounds like you've been doing some real soul searching.
09:21In my messy personal life, as you so kindly put it, frankly, I'm starting to second guess that.
09:28You know, playing mind games was fun for a little while, I can admit that.
09:32But it's time to give it up.
09:35Because you were dead right about one thing, which is the addiction of wanting more.
09:40It's the strongest addiction there is.
09:44But at what cost?
09:46See, these are the kinds of questions I'm asking myself now, Jack.
09:49I'm not shying away from who I am, who I was.
09:55I'm simply reconsidering who I want to be.
10:03You really want to track down this Hensley guy?
10:06I mean, that way we could see what he's thinking.
10:09If he wants to get revenge against Mariah, if he's a legitimate threat.
10:12How do we do that?
10:14Okay, I don't know.
10:16Um, ask questions.
10:18Talk to him.
10:19We're not cops.
10:20We're not private detectives.
10:22We can't just walk up to this guy and be like, hey, bro, are you a threat?
10:25Okay, yeah, we can't do that.
10:27I think, I think it's best just to maybe leave it alone.
10:31Or, maybe, we talk to him casually at a restaurant or a bar and just see if he's a threatening guy.
10:42You know, I'm going to say something out loud here that I should probably just keep to myself.
10:46Okay.
10:47Mariah might not be the only one who's in danger.
10:50Wait, what do you mean?
10:51You just said that Mariah is safe in Boston.
10:53She is.
10:54But you go poking around, this guy might figure out who you are to her, that you're her wife.
11:00Oh, God.
11:01And that Aria is our daughter.
11:03I mean, is that possible?
11:05Do you think that that could happen?
11:07I don't.
11:08I think it's a stretch.
11:10Unless you go and you find this guy and you ask him about the woman that tried to kill him and how he feels about that.
11:17Okay.
11:18Okay.
11:19When you put it like that, I get your point.
11:25It was a dumb idea.
11:26No, it's not a dumb idea.
11:28No, it was.
11:29It's okay.
11:30You can say it.
11:31I won't be offended.
11:32It's not a terrible idea.
11:34Look, the problem is, we don't know who this guy is.
11:38We don't know what he's capable of.
11:40For all we know, he might want to forget the whole thing ever happened and just keep going on with his life.
11:45And us poking around could put Mariah back on his radar.
11:48Yeah.
11:49It could.
11:50And it could put you at risk.
11:51I don't want that to happen.
11:54Oh, this is so frustrating.
11:58I know.
12:00I know.
12:01It's actually times like this that I'd pick up the phone and call Chance and ask him for a little off-the-record advice, but I can't do that anymore.
12:12There has just been so much death.
12:15And loss lately.
12:17And I honestly thought we were on the other side of it.
12:21But somehow it's worse because we don't know what happened.
12:24I mean, Mariah's not a killer.
12:26She's a sweet and wonderful, amazing person who's being haunted by Ian Ward.
12:31Even from the grave.
12:33I mean, how do you deal with a devil that's not even there?
12:36That's what haunts me.
12:38The shame and guilt that Mariah's been carrying around.
12:41I mean, she was clearly pushed to the edge by this man.
12:45But what caused her to break?
12:47What happened in that room, Daniel?
12:49You've lost me, Nikki. I don't know what you're talking about.
12:56I am talking about the origins of Cain's business empire.
13:02Okay. Well, the only story I know is that Colin took his proceeds from a land sale.
13:08He purchased two legitimate businesses and turned them over to Cain and they did very well.
13:13And that was Colin's final redemption.
13:20Colin Atkinson, I assure you, was never redeemed.
13:24Well, you say that because you're a professional cynic, but you see, you weren't there.
13:30You didn't see him. You didn't hear him. You didn't know what was in his heart.
13:35The only thing in that man's heart was pure and utter greed.
13:43Yeah. Well, you would be the man to know, huh?
13:47Actually, we do know that Chateau in Nice swindled from the last surviving member of the De Leon family.
13:57What the hell are you talking about?
13:59What she's talking about is Colin's last job.
14:05Probably his finest con ever.
14:08And there's no way that Cain Ashby didn't know about it or perhaps even participated in it.
14:18All very impressive.
14:21What's that?
14:22This self-reflection act you're spinning, I think it's very convincing.
14:28I just don't buy a word of it.
14:31Well, that's too bad.
14:33Sorry.
14:36You know, Jack, you haven't exactly been on the level with me.
14:40Oh?
14:42Yeah, I'm well aware you've been talking to Jill, trying to turn her against me.
14:45Oh, Jill and I go way back. We do talk from time to time.
14:49Was I not supposed to mention your current activities?
14:52I thought Aristotle Dumas was an open book.
14:55Well, I'm just sorry you remain skeptical.
14:58I'm not skeptical.
15:00I don't believe any of it.
15:02Then that's a shame.
15:04Because I'm telling you the truth.
15:06There's no tricks.
15:08There's no cards up my sleeve.
15:10I simply want to reset. I want a chance to do things different this time.
15:12Good. Then prove it.
15:15Get rid of this software program.
15:19Remove the axe that is hanging over everyone's head.
15:23And how do you propose I do that?
15:24Oh, I think the whole thing has to be destroyed.
15:27Buried forever, so that no one is tempted to use it.
15:31Let's say I agreed to do that.
15:33Well, no one would trust you to do it yourself.
15:37No, of course not. No.
15:38There should definitely be a neutral party operating for the greater good.
15:43Uh...
15:45Do you have somebody in mind, Jack?
15:47As a matter of fact, I do.
15:49Me.
15:50Go there, Tessa.
15:51It's so hard not to.
15:52Trying to figure out what happened between Hensley and Mariah in that room is just going to upset you.
16:04I'm already upset, Daniel.
16:05I mean, the idea of this man being in a room with my wife, it makes my skin crawl.
16:09I mean, trying to imagine what he did to her to make her try to kill him.
16:13Don't. Don't.
16:14Okay, I can't help it. Is it something that he did to her? Was it in her head because of Ian?
16:20Okay, Tessa.
16:21What demons? Is she fighting? I mean, are they real ones because of something that he did to her?
16:27Don't do this to yourself. You want to help her, you need to stay grounded.
16:33How the hell am I supposed to do that?
16:35Look at me. Look at me.
16:38You focus on what we know, right? What do we know?
16:42We know that Mariah is safe in Boston. We know that you're safe here with me.
16:46We know that Aria is safe.
16:50I know.
16:51Do you?
16:52Yes.
16:53It's gonna be okay. She's gonna come home to her family.
16:56You don't know that, Daniel.
16:58Tessa.
16:59You don't.
17:00I need to see her.
17:04Okay.
17:05And don't try to stop me.
17:07I just said okay.
17:09Oh, sorry.
17:10It's fine.
17:11It's just...
17:12No, no, no. You don't have to apologize. You don't have to explain.
17:17They must have visiting hours at the clinic, right?
17:20Yeah, I guess.
17:22Okay, well then I just need to talk to Mariah.
17:25And tell her that I know what happened and that I'll support her.
17:28And that she doesn't need to feel shame about anything.
17:32Well, that's if she even wants to see you.
17:37What do you mean?
17:39Just because you want to let Mariah know that you're there for her doesn't mean that she's ready to talk about this, especially with you.
17:46Look, I understand the impulse of wanting to go there. There's nothing wrong with that.
17:51But you know, I don't... I don't want to see you get disappointed.
17:54Wow.
17:55That is very altruistic of you, Jack.
17:59Willing to throw yourself into the breach to save the town from the evil Cain Ashby?
18:03I am serious.
18:04Well, you know, I don't exactly see you as neutral in this scenario.
18:09You know, I'm a man of principle.
18:10I would never turn around and use this program on you.
18:12Sure.
18:13But, uh, you know, the skepticism goes both ways.
18:15And why do you say that?
18:16Because I don't trust you did destroy it either.
18:17I mean, sure, you might not use it against me, but Victor...
18:18Yeah, I bet you wouldn't have a problem using it against him.
18:22Is that really what you're worried about?
18:23I'm not worried, Jack. I'm just speculating.
18:24Victor and I are on the same page these days.
18:25Yeah.
18:26That's funny.
18:27I'm not laughing.
18:28If I gave the software to Victor, what do you think he would do?
18:33What do you think he would do?
18:42You know, that's funny.
18:45Yeah.
18:46If I gave the software to Victor, what do you think he would do?
18:50think he would do think he would use it against you the man that he's been privately and publicly
18:56vowing to destroy for decades i made you an offer kane i haven't heard a solid response
19:02well i don't know i could give it to billy or phyllis god all i know is what they would do with
19:08it but boy it would be fun to find out fun none of us are having fun kane yeah well none of you
19:16have offered me a logical solution either because the truth is i don't trust any of you to prevent
19:22this so-called nuclear option because you all have your own agendas and the risk would be that
19:27you would use the software to achieve your own goals which is very funny because isn't that what
19:32you all are accusing me of doing we don't get any pleasure out of telling you this joe i don't know
19:42i think victor might joe i know the truth is a bitter pill to swallow but isn't that preferable
19:51to the alternative okay if i believed you and i mean if i would be deeply saddened but i was there
20:01at the time of colin's death i witnessed his regret and believe me it was genuine
20:09it seemed genuine please the man was dying and he knew he was dying ah your theory is full of holes
20:19you clearly believe him contrary to all the evidence
20:24what evidence i have in my possession a letter from a madame de leon who owned that big chateau
20:31in the south of france how she bequeathed her fortune to lord jeremy edgerton does that ring a bell
20:39i've never heard that name that was one of colin atkinson's many aliases
20:46so i can show you the letter letters can be forged you don't believe that i don't believe you and by the
20:57way you haven't produced any evidence at all that kane is involved in this land swindle joe come on
21:05common sense tells me that you are backing the wrong horse if you back kane
21:11has to see me i won't take no for an answer
21:20what nothing just
21:25you're kind of a force has anyone ever told you that yeah mariah about a hundred times except she
21:34like to call it pushy it can relate you can sometimes when you're teaching me a chord progression
21:45you can be a little intense it's c to g daniel c to g listen to the song okay do i really sound like
21:56that sometimes oh poor mariah having to put up with that for all these years
22:02i think it's probably one of the things that she loves most about you
22:06you know you don't hold back when you really want something
22:09i can be a bit much i know that
22:12i think that mariah would say you are the perfect amount of pushy and kind and caring loving and devoted
22:26because you are i mean you are all of those things
22:31you're gonna make me cry
22:36trip to boston
22:41oh yeah i should uh check the lights
22:44you know i suppose we could give the software to nick nick nick is kind of a boy scout probably
22:57wouldn't use it to destroy the world but you know then again he is uh his daddy's number one son so
23:04victor would definitely probably work him and then there's adam
23:09yeah adam uh so i think it's probably best that we just keep this away from anybody in the newman family
23:16what do you think jack i think you're reverting to your old routine of playing mind games
23:22am i
23:23only i'm not playing
23:25well you did broach the subject
23:27i'm serious
23:29you're not
23:30yeah except giving this thing away to any of the interested parties including yourself jack
23:35would only succeed in creating more chaos because here's the thing
23:39you would use it against victor victor would use it against you and billy
23:42well billy would use it against everybody
23:44actually you're wrong about me but i could see where you're going with this
23:47so then here we are back at square one
23:50not exactly
23:51there is one other person you could trust
23:55oh and who's that
23:56jill
23:58jill
23:59what what's so funny about that
24:01jack you know you claim you don't like mind games but you are very good at them
24:05because you know i have a soft spot for jill
24:07and that's why you summoned her back to town isn't it
24:10no one summons jill abbott i think you should know that
24:15no she calls her own shots
24:18including this time
24:20did you know that i tried to get billy to make things right with her
24:23no i did not
24:24well i did
24:26so contrary to popular belief i'm not this evil monster that just wants more
24:31more more
24:32now see i only want a chancellor in the first place to try to bridge the gap between mother and son
24:39because i know how much that meant to her
24:43let's just say that hypothetically i believe you colin swindled that poor old woman and kane was in on it
24:56jill those are the facts there's nothing hypothetical about them
25:00okay we'll play in your ballpark just for a little while
25:03but what do you expect me to do
25:06you don't want kane ashby to destroy the very company that katherine built
25:13that you ran so successfully
25:15so that he can sweep in and steal it
25:17i don't believe he'd do that
25:20he obviously holds that threat jill that's why we are all trying to strengthen our defenses
25:27i'm telling you he wouldn't do it he wouldn't lie to me
25:33uh-huh
25:33there's the answer
25:36he trusts you
25:38he respects you
25:39he loves you jill
25:42what we need jill is to get our hands on that ai software and destroy it
25:50before kane or anyone else can use it
25:55and there it is you want him to give it to me so i can turn around and give it to you
26:01any luck thank you um yeah there's a red eye leaving for boston at midnight but i don't know
26:15i i don't want to be an exhausted mess by the time i get there so i'll just find something in the
26:22morning you're sure you're ready for this no but i can't just sit here and do nothing
26:29mariah might still not want to talk to you and you've had your own conflicted feelings
26:34i love her i want to help her there's no conflict there yeah yeah but you know you've been
26:43all tied up in knots without any answers it's enough to make anyone go crazy i know i've seen
26:51it up close look i appreciate you being here for me right now thank you all i mean my mood swings
26:58have been absolutely operatic lately i don't know why you stick around you don't have to worry
27:03about me i'm not going anywhere careful don't make promises you might change your mind
27:12you serious i'm in it for the long haul you know as bad as this has been hasn't been the worst
27:20it's been bad enough but it hasn't been the worst
27:27but mariah she could have lost her life in that room whatever happened that made her attack that guy
27:33she had to feel like her life was really in danger she got lucky you got lucky and you would know too
27:45because of heather
27:46i wouldn't wish what i went through with heather on anyone but that's why i'm rooting for a happy ending for you
27:58because as rough as it's been for the two of you you guys still have hope
28:02you do and you still have a future together if everything breaks right
28:09leave it to you to say something sweet and absolutely perfect you're right
28:17i should be thanking my lucky stars that mariah's still here
28:22and i should be thanking those lucky stars for you too didn't you
28:26i don't know how i would have got through any of this without you
28:34everyone thought you were going after chancellor to get lily back
28:38if i thought that would have worked i would have gone after it ten times harder
28:42i knew lily's heart wasn't going to be swayed by me buying her a company
28:45she would have seen it as too easy and she would have been right so instead you tried to reunite
28:51jill and billy you don't believe me well let's assume i don't believe
28:56anything you say until proven otherwise okay well you know i don't know how one proves what's
29:00in their heart but i'm telling you the truth i didn't dangle chancellor in front of billy's
29:05face to toy with him i did it so jill could have a chance to make amends to her son you were being
29:09a good guy i was trying to stop jill's heart from breaking and that's the truth she felt terrible
29:14about what she felt she had to do to billy and what that cost their relationship and yet she did
29:19it anyway her selling chancellor to victor was the knockout punch that billy has still not
29:25recover oh please jill thought billy was going to destroy the company and you and i both know
29:29that he's plenty capable of that i was trying to offer him another chance i was trying to give him
29:35the opportunity to prove to jill and to himself that he could be a success i thought it was worth
29:40a shot okay okay okay okay that's it it's complicated but it's plausible one question yeah
29:52what changed how did billy go from being worthy of redemption and second chances to being back out
29:59on the street again just by being himself jack and you know what that means more than anyone
30:06okay after a while i realized billy didn't deserve what i was offering him
30:10so i cut the cord and i abandoned going after chancellor altogether
30:14boy it must be nice playing god oh come on i'm not playing god i made a practical business decision to
30:19cut ties with an erratic partner i'm not arguing the motive yeah billy is a frustration to work with
30:26sometimes i am arguing the verdict that he is no longer worthy of redemption redemption is exactly
30:33what he needs to prove to jill and to himself he's not a total failure it's interesting that you use those
30:39words now why would you say it that way because didn't you turn your back on billy no one's blaming
30:45you jack i mean and billy's made a science out of alienating everyone who's ever cared about him
30:50but isn't that exactly what you said to him that enough is enough
30:58so let me get this right i get a hold of this doomsday machine and then i hand it over to him that's
31:07your plan i think he can explain it to you better than i can it would protect chancellor from any
31:19future attack it would also give you immense power i hardly think it's a fair trade jill do
31:26i need to remind you when i purchase chancellor from you i promised you i would keep your company
31:34and katherine's legacy intact i think i've kept up my end of the bargain have i not yes on that but on
31:42this i need further proof i want to see that letter that the old woman sent when colin allegedly
31:53swindled her and i shall get you a copy of that letter i want original i want to get it authentic i will
31:59keep the original for obvious reasons fine i'll be in touch you just email me all of this so-called
32:08evidence you have good joe it's good seeing you
32:28what do you think she's going to do well she's going to run right to jack abbott who will tell
32:34her the same thing that kane actually is a threat and then we have a solution to it about that
32:45what really is your solution
32:52i didn't really do anything all that special you've been distracting me for months
32:57by being a demanding guitar student no by being an a plus guitar student attendance
33:06progress practice aptitude i mean you make me feel like i'm the best guitar teacher in the whole world
33:13it's because you are
33:16you've listened to me spin out about mariah for months anyone would have done the same oh yeah
33:23people were clamoring to listen to me people who would also help me entertain aria when i was at the
33:29end of my rope and saved me from a fussing daughter with cloud magic and gummy bears now that was my
33:38pleasure you dropped everything to come with me on who knows what we're going to find investigation
33:46i can let you do something that dangerous on your own and what we found was
33:49disturbing no one who freaked you out by saying that the guy might come after your wife daniel
33:58stop making light of this it has been a hell of the last few months you're right it has and i i
34:06shouldn't make light and i shouldn't tease but you know i'm just happy that i could be there for you
34:12daniel i want you to stop being so modest and i want you to hear me okay you've been a lifesaver
34:30you've been more than just a friend
34:32you've been my best friend
34:44this is the first i'm hearing about you planning to get a hold of the ai program yourself yeah well
34:50just to make sure that neither newman or chancellor ever threatened again so you would destroy it
34:56well don't have to destroy it as long as kane ashby believes it's destroyed
35:09as long as he believes it
35:13i've accomplished my purpose i'm not talking about kane i'm talking about you
35:17are you really planning on destroying it or are you thinking of maybe using it for your benefit
35:27against oh i don't know jabot is that what this is all about did you team up with jack
35:39as a ploy so that you could disarm him while you put the knife in his back
35:47be honest with me jack even if billy needed redemption i think everyone deserves that chance
35:55i really do believe that okay fine so i grant you that do you really think that that that either of
36:01us or anyone could give it to billy like really how many times have you asked yourself that question
36:06has there ever been a different answer i will never stop looking for a different answer if it means
36:11helping my family is my brother a frustration yes
36:14in helping him is it sometimes better to let him go his own way absolutely well that sounds a lot
36:21like banging your head against the law like it was with colin tell me can you really stand there and
36:27tell me you don't understand the perpetual desire to save the people we love from themselves the desire
36:36sure yeah my intention was to help billy okay believe me but it came at too high a cost so i cut my losses
36:43you forgave your father after everything he did to you to so many people you care about there's a
36:50difference jack cullen changed according to you no not just me once you ask her
37:01hello jack would you excuse us please uh kane and i need to speak privately glad to see you made it to
37:09town joe i was hoping that perhaps we could have a little chat as well we're overdue why so you can
37:17fill my head with a lot of negative things about kane the way billy and victor just have
37:23help is it working well that remains to be seen
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