Greta Lee and Jodie Turner-Smith talk to Melissa Nathoo about Tron: Ares, the technology they miss and what their relationship with AI is like. Report by Nathoom. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
00:02I'm here to take every command that you have for me, Athena.
00:05It's fine.
00:05Just be Kim.
00:07I think if Kim's not here, we are going to leave.
00:09I don't know where she is.
00:11It's so good to see you, ladies.
00:13Jodie, how does it feel to be in your villain era?
00:17That's great.
00:17I don't think she's having a good time.
00:19It's delicious.
00:20I feel like she's not really into it.
00:22It's great.
00:23You know, although I am playing an AI program,
00:27which technically is genderless,
00:30I love being able to embody an expression of female rage.
00:35Oh, yes.
00:36Yeah.
00:36Felt good.
00:37Felt good.
00:37We need more of that.
00:38Yeah.
00:39I'm making space for female rage.
00:41Absolutely.
00:42You're jealous you didn't get to do that.
00:43Killed a bit of it.
00:44I mean, she f***ing knocks me off of my life cycle with her back.
00:48Right?
00:49Right to the face.
00:49I was going to say, it's love, female love.
00:54We've had enough of that.
00:55It's a given.
00:56Although, we're all 80s babies, 80s babies.
01:00So, you will be from the same era of tech as I am.
01:03So, how nice was it to have that kind of tech around you, like floppy disks?
01:07I was like, please give me those back.
01:09Oh, yeah, the original Kevin Flynn office that they recreated with a lot of detail.
01:13Yeah.
01:14That day was so fun.
01:15I thought Jared was going to steal everything.
01:17I thought he was going to cry.
01:18Everyone was, like, very overwhelmed by all of the gadgets and, like, how realistic everything was.
01:24Yeah.
01:24It was transported.
01:25I didn't even really, I just, I wrecked it all.
01:28Oh, yeah, that's when you came in and tried to kill me.
01:31What am I smashing?
01:32What tech do you miss from, like, that era?
01:35Because when I saw, like, floppy disks and stuff, I was like, God, bring that back.
01:38I don't want everything in the cloud.
01:39I miss the telephone.
01:41Oh, an actual one.
01:43That is the, like, and, like, I just feel, like, kids now, they don't get the experience of just being on the telephone.
01:50Like, you have to go through your parents to talk to someone.
01:54Do you remember that it was, like, really cool if you had your own landline?
01:56Yes.
01:57And I had mine, like, I had my own, do you know what I mean?
01:59I had my own voice.
01:59What's separate to your...
02:00Yes.
02:00Yeah, if you got your own line.
02:02I never had that.
02:02If you look a call and you had your own answer machine and people called you and you'd be like, hi, it's Joey, whatever you wanted.
02:08Do you know?
02:08Is that less of a thing?
02:10Well, I...
02:11No, no.
02:11Well, maybe you...
02:12No, it's because my dad, you know, my stepdad was, he was, he liked to, you know, make us feel like we had things so we wouldn't have to leave the house.
02:22I just liked that you couldn't, no one could get hold of you.
02:24That was it.
02:25Like, you go out with your friends, which I know probably now isn't great, but, like, back then, now I have to text my mum every time I get home.
02:32Like, hi, hi, mum.
02:33I miss, like, the whole, like, going outside to play thing being, like, a central part of, like, interacting with other kids.
02:39Yeah.
02:40Do you know what I mean?
02:40Well, I don't want to be interacting with other kids now.
02:44Except for my kid.
02:45I mean, but, you know what I mean.
02:46I know you mean.
02:47Because I'd be weird if I'm, like, trying to interact with other kids.
02:49I know.
02:49I don't play.
02:50Stop singing, Joey.
02:51I miss me being a kid.
02:53We always miss being a kid.
02:54And wanting to, you know, and somebody coming and having to really knock on your door and say, is, you know, is, so true.
03:00It's Jodie here.
03:00It's Jodie here.
03:01It's Greta here.
03:01I would like to play.
03:02Do you know what I mean?
03:03Yeah.
03:03That?
03:04I miss that.
03:05We miss doors and phones.
03:07I miss, you know, not being able to be reached if I had left the house.
03:11Yeah.
03:12Because, like, this being tied to my phone thing is a bit much.
03:15We're too connected.
03:16It's a bit much.
03:17I'd like less of that.
03:18And listen, Eve is essentially becomes friends with Aries in a way.
03:23Like, obviously, she has empathy for him and all that.
03:25How do you guys interact?
03:27I think the way we become friends, too.
03:29Do you?
03:30Yeah.
03:30In another life.
03:31I was going to say.
03:32What film were you in?
03:33No, but honestly, that last moment with Athena, I think it's so heartbreaking because she does,
03:39she's on a different journey, but she does reach a sentience and a conscience-ness that is more humane.
03:48And it's really, I love that.
03:50I think it's so beautiful.
03:51Felt the rain.
03:51Felt the rain.
03:52Yeah.
03:53Yeah.
03:53And I mean, I think that there was an element of, you know, respect that she had for the scrappy nature.
04:03Yeah.
04:03Of Eve Kim.
04:05I mean, you remember when I'm putting that giant laser at you and I'm like.
04:08Yeah, you did try to kill me a few times.
04:09You are persistent.
04:10You are a persistent user.
04:12Sounds like you were doing it.
04:13Also, listen, Athena was integral to Eve's journey.
04:20I mean, how else do you appreciate life?
04:22Absolutely.
04:22That's right.
04:23You know, you're going to appreciate life when someone's trying to kill you.
04:25But I was curious, how do you guys interact with, like, AI yourselves now?
04:29Do you know how people talk to it like it's their best friend?
04:31I'm not at that point.
04:33But are you guys, like, some people talk to it literally like it's their boyfriend, like it's, like, they have whole conversations.
04:39Do you do that?
04:40No, but, you know, I do find it to be, if there's anything that is, you know, stressful that I need to read, I will always, like, sometimes I'm like, you read it first and summarize.
04:53Oh, that's nice.
04:54Then I can read it and, like, it's all this crazy.
04:56It's like an emotional barrier.
04:58Yeah.
04:58You know, because, you know, it's helping me to not take things personal.
05:02I am so analog.
05:04I just don't.
05:05You just want your phone.
05:06Hello?
05:07Ring, ring?
05:08Dial.
05:09Yeah.
05:10Just that.
05:10No, I, yeah, I don't, I, I don't haven't talked to my AI self yet.
05:15Oh.
05:15Is my, um, is that embarrassing?
05:17No, it's not embarrassing because, I mean, in all reality, it's, you know, it's definitely not sustainable, the amount of water that these machines are using.
05:25Right.
05:26So we should all maybe talk to our AI's a little bit less.
05:28Absolutely.
05:29So I'm, I guess I'll just stay out of it.
05:31Just keep on, keep on keeping on.
05:32Let's just stay being little 80s babies who deny AI every opportunity.
05:38Yeah.
05:39But I will say, when I do talk to, listen, I say please and thank you to Siri because I'm like, just in case.
05:43Oh, so polite of you.
05:44Just in case, well.
05:45But when the, the robot, uh, revolution comes, that's what they say, you have to be, you have to be kind.
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