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Entrevista exclusiva na íntegra: Benjamin Netanyahu cita Churchill e promete acabar com o Hamas
Em entrevista exclusiva à Euronews, o primeiro-ministro israelita diz esperar que o plano de cessar-fogo liderado pelos Estados Unidos resulte, porque se não resultar, Israel atuará em força contra o Hamas com o total apoio dos Estados Unidos.
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Em entrevista exclusiva à Euronews, o primeiro-ministro israelita diz esperar que o plano de cessar-fogo liderado pelos Estados Unidos resulte, porque se não resultar, Israel atuará em força contra o Hamas com o total apoio dos Estados Unidos.
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00:00Prime Minister Netanyahu, thank you for joining us.
00:11And to begin with, we want to focus on the recent developments surrounding the latest deal with Hamas.
00:18Now, this deal comes close to exactly two years since the Hamas attack on the 7th of October.
00:25We might see the hostages freed on the same day they were taken two years ago.
00:32Bringing the hostages back, can you say Israel achieved its main goal?
00:37Well, we accepted the deal, as did all the world.
00:42It was President Trump's plan.
00:44Hamas says that it accepted the deal.
00:46Now the onus is on Hamas.
00:48This plan consists of two parts.
00:50The first part is releasing all the hostages.
00:53Israel makes a tactical withdrawal, stays in Gaza.
00:56And then the second part is meant to demilitarize Gaza and disarm Hamas.
01:05That will be negotiated.
01:07But the first part is there.
01:09It's agreed upon.
01:10And that could be, indeed, the beginning of the end of the war.
01:14And as I said, since we accepted it, we have to see what Hamas will do.
01:18If Hamas will accept it, I think it's a very good sign.
01:21If Hamas doesn't accept it, and it's a possibility that we always take into mind, then Israel will receive, as President Trump says, the full support of the United States to forcefully act against it to bring about an end to the war.
01:36I prefer, obviously, that we proceed with the plan as presented.
01:42But time will tell, and it won't take very long.
01:45In a few days we'll know.
01:46If Hamas agrees to the release of all our hostages, we can move forward.
01:51That is complete phase one of the deal.
01:54That's what we're trying to do right now.
01:55Prime Minister, just to follow up.
01:57So what happens if Hamas does not release the hostages?
02:00What will Israel do?
02:01How Israel will change its stance and the strategy?
02:04Well, you have to realize that the reason Hamas agreed in the first place to this deal is because we acted militarily against their main stronghold, the city of Gaza.
02:14I gave an order several weeks ago to the army to enter that stronghold.
02:20And as a result, Hamas became, I would say, a lot more flexible because they realized that their end is near.
02:26Add to that President Trump's intervention and the plan that he put for ending the conflict by having the hostages released first.
02:35That, I think, sealed this situation in a positive way.
02:41Now, of course, I can't tell you if Hamas will agree to it.
02:44I think that it's possible.
02:46I hope it will happen.
02:48But I can't guarantee that it will happen.
02:49And so if it doesn't happen, what President Trump has said is that he will back Israel completely in acting forcefully against Hamas.
02:57Well, let's hope that we can finish it the easy way and not the hard way.
03:03Prime Minister, the world is watching closely as the latest deal with Hamas unfolds.
03:08After all the suffering, what's next for Gaza from your point of view?
03:13What is your message to the Palestinian civilians and to Hamas at this stage?
03:18I think everybody understands that Hamas rule has to come to an end.
03:22All our hostages have to be released.
03:24And, of course, Hamas cannot come back to running Gaza, tormenting its people with its terror regime,
03:33and terrorizing Israel with rockets and missiles and hostage-taking.
03:38So that has to end.
03:39Once that ends, I think what we need is a system of a division of responsibility.
03:44Israel will have overall security responsibility to prevent terrorist resurgence from Gaza.
03:51But in Gaza, we need a civilian administration that is administered not by people who are committed to Israel's destruction,
04:01but those who are committed to living peacefully with it.
04:03President Trump has undertaken himself to head that civilian authority, to head the governing board of that civilian authority.
04:11And I think that's a good development.
04:13So if we have that, I think we can have a different future for Gaza and for Israel and for everyone in the region.
04:20That's what we hope will take place.
04:22But the first step is release all the hostages and then disarm Hamas and demilitarize Gaza.
04:29Is that a good deal for Gaza or is that the only deal for Gaza?
04:34Well, I think right now it's the only deal on the table.
04:37There's no other deal, number one.
04:38Number two, I think it's very good for Gaza.
04:40And the Gazans are hoping that Hamas will...
04:43They want to free Gaza.
04:45They want to free Gaza from Hamas, from Hamas tyranny.
04:48Hamas shoots anybody in the Palestinian side who wants to dissent from Hamas' war of terror in Israel,
04:55wants to dissent from Hamas taking all the money, the billions that were poured into Gaza.
05:00The Gazans didn't see any benefit from that.
05:02They just built an underground city, a terror tunnel city.
05:06And so they want a different future.
05:09And Gazans are now fighting Hamas.
05:11They're actually fighting Hamas because they see now a hope to get rid of Hamas.
05:16So is that something that can happen?
05:19I think it could.
05:20And I think it's not only that within Gaza people are hoping that they can remove this Hamas terror dictatorship
05:28that has subjugated them for so long.
05:31It's that everybody in the world agreed to a new deal for Gaza.
05:36Return of all our hostages.
05:37You know, the disarming of Hamas, the demilitarizing of Gaza.
05:44Basically, the whole world has now accepted this plan.
05:47We have, most of the Arab countries have, the Arab states, as I said, have, Europe too,
05:55and, of course, the United States, which has led this by President Trump.
05:59So that's a very good thing.
06:01And I think we should pursue it quickly.
06:04Prime Minister, do you believe this deal would finally lead to a lasting peace
06:09rather than a merely temporary pause, especially given, as you said,
06:13that Hamas only partially accepted the plan?
06:16Well, it can't partially accept it.
06:17It has to accept it in full, and especially the first part that has to get underway.
06:23That's what moves everything towards a resolution of the conflict.
06:26If they do, if we actually set up a civilian administration in Gaza
06:32that doesn't educate its children to hate Israel, to try to destroy Israel, to kill Jews everywhere,
06:40in other words, to de-radicalize Gaza, not only to demilitarize it, not only to disarm Hamas,
06:46but to de-radicalize Gaza, as was done in Germany after World War II or in Japan,
06:53then, yes, then I think the whole region can have a much more positive and peaceful future.
06:59And, by the way, I think that if that happens, I think we'll have many more peace deals
07:03of the kind that I had done with President Trump and Arab leaders in the Abraham Accords.
07:12We can expand the Abraham Peace Accords to include other countries in the Middle East
07:17and Muslim countries beyond the Middle East.
07:19So the future is bright, but the first stage is Hamas has to get on the program.
07:25They have to release all our hostages and do so immediately.
07:29Well, the plan is seen as a short-term solution by many regional actors,
07:33and the Arab countries may not follow suit unless, what they say,
07:37they see a long-term solution for Palestine.
07:40How do you plan to get them on board from your side, from your point of view?
07:44I think many of them are afraid of a Palestinian terror state.
07:49Many of them privately tell us how they want to see Hamas eliminated from the scene.
07:54I think we can get to a solution that protects Israel's security
07:59and also gives the Palestinians the ability to govern themselves, but not to threaten Israel.
08:05That means, necessarily, that some sovereign powers will remain in Israel's hands,
08:10especially the sovereign power of security,
08:11because we've seen time and again that when Israel moves out,
08:15gives the Palestinians a territory which they govern with no limitations,
08:21then immediately Iran comes in, they set up a terror state,
08:24they attack Israel, as they did in the horrific massacre of October 7th.
08:29That cannot be, that's not a path to peace.
08:32If you want a real path to peace, then the Palestinians have to come,
08:35finally, to recognize and accept the existence of a Jewish state in their midst.
08:41And that hasn't happened.
08:42That's why we don't have peace here, because they refuse to,
08:45they don't want a state next to Israel.
08:47They want a state instead of Israel.
08:50And once they, any territory they get, they used to attack us again and again.
08:53If we don't change that, then, you know, then this conflict will continue.
08:57If we do, we are able, with the plan that we have for the day after Hamas and Gaza,
09:02if we are able to change that, that goes a long way to securing a long-term peace
09:07and a stable peace in the Middle East.
09:09Well, some of the critics voiced exactly this concern, as you say,
09:12regarding what comes the day after.
09:14Exactly.
09:15And I said what comes the day after is a de-radicalized Gaza,
09:19a de-militarized Gaza, and a disarmed Gaza,
09:22in the sense that Hamas will no longer run the show.
09:25And the people who will run the show in Gaza, and those are not Israelis,
09:29they have to be those Palestinians, supported by others who want peace with Israel
09:34and not the destruction of Israel.
09:36And once we get to that point, I think we can advance peace,
09:39not only between Israel and Gaza, but between Israel and many other partners
09:43in the Middle East, and among some countries beyond the Middle East.
09:47Prime Minister, would this plan and this outcome be possible
09:50without Donald Trump's mediation,
09:52given that Europe has been visibly absent from this process?
09:56Europe has been absent because Europe has basically caved in
10:00to Palestinian terrorism, to radical Islamist minorities in their midst.
10:06And they basically said, let's just give them a Palestinian state,
10:10which would be the ultimate reward for Hamas
10:13after doing the greatest massacre against the Jews since the Holocaust.
10:18Now we'll give you a state in which you can continue the war against Israel.
10:22That's why Europe has essentially become irrelevant
10:26and displayed enormous weakness.
10:28If you want to fight terror, stand up and fight terror.
10:32Stand up and be forceful against terrorism.
10:34Don't capitulate to its demands.
10:36Don't feed the crocodile, in Churchill's words,
10:38because it's going to come after you after it devours Israel
10:41or any other country that stands in its way.
10:44That's the first thing, what not to do.
10:46What should be done is exactly what President Trump is doing.
10:49He's presenting a realistic peace plan,
10:52a realistic plan that eliminates the terrorist elements,
10:56the elements that want to continue the war again and again,
11:00who vow to repeat the massacre of October 7th again and again.
11:03Remove them, replace them with a peaceful administration,
11:07and let's get, we can move on with peace.
11:10But that requires first releasing all the hostages
11:13and eliminating Hamas as a military and governing element in Gaza.
11:17There are several EU countries recently recognized the state of Palestine.
11:22How this affects or will affect Israel's relations with Europe?
11:27How would you explain to those in Europe
11:29what are the goals of your government in Gaza?
11:32Well, I think it caused enormous damage for us here in the Middle East
11:36because it's the ultimate prize for terror.
11:39You attack Jews in, as I said, the worst attack since the Holocaust,
11:42and you're given a state because that's who is going to run that state.
11:46And remember, the Palestinians had a state in Gaza,
11:51a de facto state which turned out to be the greatest terrorist attack
11:55in history since 9-11.
11:58Imagine that after 9-11, people would say,
12:01okay, now let's give Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, let's give them a state.
12:06Not only will we give them a state, it'll be one mile from New York,
12:10which is what they're suggesting after this October 7th massacre against Israel,
12:16we'll give the Palestinians a state one mile or a few miles from Tel Aviv.
12:20That's not going to promote peace.
12:21But that's effectively what the European leaders,
12:24those European leaders who suggested a Palestinian state are saying.
12:28We're going to stop terrorism by giving the terrorists a state
12:31right next to their intended victim, whom they almost eliminated.
12:35That doesn't move peace.
12:38I think that the more responsible approach taken by the United States
12:42and by President Trump, that's the way to improve peace.
12:46How did we get the Abraham Accords?
12:48You know, for 50 years, for 25 years, a quarter of a century,
12:51we couldn't expand the peace with our Arab neighbors.
12:54Everybody said, you have to give the Palestinians a state.
12:56And that state obviously was committed to our elimination.
12:59So that wouldn't move it very far.
13:02In fact, it would move the needle backwards.
13:05In came President Trump and I, and we worked together.
13:08And we went around the Palestinian state.
13:11We went to Abu Dhabi.
13:14We went to the Emirates, that is.
13:15We went to Bahrain.
13:17We went to Morocco.
13:18We went to Sudan.
13:19And we brokered a direct peace between them,
13:21a peace based on mutual respect, a peace based on strength.
13:25First you have the strength, then you have the peace.
13:27Now what these European leaders are saying,
13:29let's weaken Israel to the point where it's fighting for its survival
13:33against another Palestinian state,
13:36this time right at the outskirts of Jerusalem,
13:39in fact within Jerusalem,
13:40and right above the hills above Tel Aviv.
13:43Let's give them a state, and that's going to bring peace.
13:46That's absurd.
13:47So Europe has lost.
13:48Those European leaders, unfortunately,
13:50caved in to the terror of Hamas.
13:53And I think that's the wrong way to go.
13:55So I hope they rethink their way,
13:57because we'd prefer to have not only good relations with Europe,
14:02but good relations with a realistic Europe,
14:05and one that would bring real peace,
14:07as opposed to the repetition of horrible war.
14:09Are you willing to negotiate with the European members
14:12to convince them to do that?
14:14Well, I'm in constant touch with them.
14:16I can say that some of them have been more,
14:20I would say, more respectful of our positions than others.
14:27Others, basically, they're under tremendous pressure.
14:30The media is very tilted against Israel.
14:34It just accepts Hamas propaganda,
14:37hook, line, and sinker,
14:38whatever numbers they give,
14:39whatever facts they give
14:40that are exactly the opposite of the truth.
14:43They've accepted.
14:45Then they have also these demonstrations from day one,
14:48from day one of the massacre,
14:50when women were raped,
14:52and men were beheaded,
14:53and babies were burned by these Hamas monsters.
14:55There were mass demonstrations
14:57on the streets of Europe's capitals
14:59on behalf of Hamas,
15:01on behalf of Hamas.
15:02And with this combined pressure of distorted media
15:05and internal Islamist pressure supporting Hamas,
15:11quite a few of them caved in.
15:13And that's not good.
15:15I think it's not good for Europe.
15:17I think it's very bad for Europe
15:19because it encourages additional extremism
15:24and fanaticism,
15:25which will bring down Europe eventually.
15:28And I don't think it's good for peace.
15:30So I hope that Europe changes its direction.
15:33Some of it has,
15:34but some of it hasn't.
15:35I hope the part that hasn't
15:37rethinks not only for our sake,
15:39but for Europe's sake too.
15:40Prime Minister,
15:41the Hamas attack on the 7th of October
15:44marked a turning point in the conflict
15:46and the tragic loss of life
15:48and the ongoing suffering.
15:50I want to ask you,
15:50how do you reflect on the impact of it today,
15:55of what happened?
15:56What lessons from the day
15:57continue to shape Israel's policies?
16:00And in this specific moment,
16:02with the release of hostages imminent
16:05and after all the immense suffering on both sides,
16:08has justice been served in your view?
16:12I think the first question is,
16:14can we remove a threat
16:16to perform another holocaust on the Jewish people?
16:21And the answer is,
16:23I think we have.
16:24It's come at a great cost to us
16:25because we've lost some of our finest sons and daughters
16:29who bravely fight this war.
16:32I think we've done something else.
16:33It's not only been a war against Hamas terrorists,
16:37it's been a war against the Iran terror axis.
16:40Remember that in these two years of conflict,
16:44we also went after Hezbollah
16:47that threatened to rain down
16:49150,000 rockets and missiles on our heads.
16:53And they did quite a bit of that.
16:55And we basically brought them to their knees, Hezbollah.
16:58We brought down by our action,
17:01the Assad, the murderous Assad regime
17:02that had murdered half of a million of its own population
17:06and served as a main axis
17:08for the Iran terror bridge to the Mediterranean.
17:12We took out the most dangerous weapons directed against us
17:16and brought back, rolled back,
17:18the Iran atomic threat to annihilate Israel.
17:22It's a tremendous achievement.
17:23And it not only threatened us,
17:25it threatened every one of our Arab neighbors.
17:27It threatened Europe
17:28because they were building intercontinental ballistic missiles
17:32that could carry atomic warheads to Italy,
17:36to France, to Germany, to Britain.
17:39It's a huge service that we did.
17:42As Chancellor Mertz said,
17:44Israel did the work for all of us.
17:46That was an important acknowledgement of what we were doing.
17:49And then, of course,
17:50we also have to deal with the Khutis
17:51that are blocking another Iranian proxy
17:54at the mouth of the Red Sea
17:55that is blocking maritime trade
17:57and is also raining down missiles on us,
18:01including last night.
18:02So we have a whole Iran terror axis
18:04which we have rolled back
18:06not only for our own security
18:09but for the future of the world.
18:11And that terror axis is what has funded Hamas,
18:14funded Hezbollah, funded the Khutis,
18:17kept alive all these fanatic forces
18:21that are not only against Israel.
18:23They chant death to America, death to Israel,
18:26and by the way, death to Europe in between.
18:28And I think it's important for the Europeans
18:30to understand what Chancellor Mertz said
18:33in a broader context.
18:35We are actually fighting the barbarians
18:38who want to destroy our free societies.
18:40They want to destroy you.
18:43And we are standing at the front lines
18:45while we are being attacked
18:47from people in Europe
18:49who we are protecting.
18:51It's quite amazing.
18:53So obviously, you know,
18:54there has to be a change, I think,
18:56and the understanding of what battle
18:58is being fought here.
18:59It's not merely against the Hamas terrorists
19:01who hide behind civilians,
19:03who put to use their civilians as human shields,
19:06who shoot the civilians
19:07who want to get out of harm's way
19:09when we tell them leave the area,
19:11the zone of combat.
19:12It's not only against these monstrous terrorists.
19:16It's against the whole monstrous terror axis
19:19that Hamas has built
19:20not only to destroy Israel,
19:22conquer the Middle East,
19:23but to attack you.
19:25And that is what Israel is fighting.
19:27Few Europeans perhaps understand it,
19:29but it doesn't make it less true.
19:31It's just when, as Churchill warned the world
19:35that was celebrating the Munich Agreement,
19:37celebrating the giving Hitler control,
19:40basically, of a part of Czechoslovakia,
19:42everybody said,
19:43it's peace in our time.
19:44And he said,
19:44no, it's not.
19:45It's not.
19:46This will bring a war
19:48the likes of which we haven't seen.
19:49And people condemn them as a warmonger,
19:52just as they're condemning Israel,
19:53just as they're condemning me.
19:55But in fact,
19:56we are fighting the battle of the free world.
19:58We are fighting the battle
19:59to prevent the barbarians
20:01from storming into Europe,
20:02first from conquering all the Middle East,
20:04storming into Europe,
20:05and then attacking the United States.
20:07Now, whether or not people see it,
20:09it's true.
20:10And I'm very proud of our soldiers,
20:12who, in defending ourselves so courageously,
20:14are also defending
20:15all of free civilization.
20:17Prime Minister, thank you very much.
20:19Thank you.
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