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In an exclusive interview with senior most journalist Bharathi S Pradhan for Lehren Retro, veteran actress Padmini Kapila opens up on her closeness with legendary screenwriter Salim Khan, who has in turn been a support system for her since the start. The senior artist also elaborates upon Kapila Family & her son Krishna's relationship with Salman Khan as the latter had worked with Salman Bhai in Tubelight (2017) film. Watch this Kapila & Khan Family Bonding Story video only on your favourite digital destination, Lehren. #padminikapila #salimkhan #salmankhan
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00:30In your life, Naveen was a distraction, Prakash Mayra was a distraction.
00:35These people have never helped you in your career.
00:39No help at all.
00:40You did not want to play Amitabh Bachchan's sister in Mukandar Ka Sikandar.
00:46But you did a small role in La Varas, where you were Ranjit's girlfriend.
00:53Bunny has nothing to do with you. It was because Rajesh Kanna was the wrong choice for row 7.
00:59Thank God, it's not my fault.
01:02I just feel, is there anything that you would like to tell that Padmini Kapila?
01:08Because there are a lot of young people in your area.
01:11See, if I rewind my life now, if I get a chance, I'll be more professional and I don't think I'll make the same mistakes.
01:23You just think, you're 17 years old and you've signed up from opposite Naveen Mishra.
01:29Jub, a big star.
01:30He was a very big star. And he was a ladies man.
01:34Very much.
01:35Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a roving eye.
01:37Yeah. And you know, when I was doing Intazar, he used to sit behind the camera and watch.
01:43You are saying nothing happened between you and Salim Khan.
01:46No.
01:47I'll accept it.
01:49But did his family, Salman and all of them, did they feel that something happened?
01:54And are they still okay about it?
01:56You have to ask them, no.
02:13You know, I met you 50 years ago, in the 1970s, when you were Padmini Kapila, the new glamour girl.
02:26Oh my God, yes.
02:28Imagine 50 years.
02:30It's been 50 years.
02:32How did the time fly?
02:33In those days, Padmini Kapila, the new glamour girl, and you were very glamorous.
02:39But in Bharti, when I entered the industry, I didn't do a very glamorous role.
02:42You didn't, actually.
02:43Mohan Saigal, you know, in a sari and choti and all that.
02:46Intazar and all that, yes.
02:48After that, when I signed with Rajesh Khanna, that was the…
02:52Yes.
02:52Bond girl.
02:53The bikini.
02:54Bond girl.
02:55But after 15 years, I am meeting you as a glamorous grandmother to be.
03:02Oh, yes.
03:03You are going to become a grandmother.
03:06That is fantastic.
03:07Yeah.
03:07Please tell me what that feels like.
03:09I am so excited that I don't know how to express my feelings.
03:16I dream about the baby every night.
03:18Really?
03:19What he or she will look like.
03:20Right.
03:21We don't know whether it's a boy or a girl.
03:22Right.
03:23But I am really very excited.
03:26I can't even imagine you.
03:28But really, we were talking about Pam as a grandmother with a son who is married.
03:36You've got a daughter in the house who is a lawyer.
03:39She works for Hindustan Unilever.
03:43Okay.
03:44And…
03:45In the legal department.
03:46Yeah.
03:47Legal department.
03:48Okay.
03:49What fun.
03:50Life has changed completely.
03:51Yes.
03:52I know.
03:53But we have seen the past five years, you had a few setbacks.
03:57You were a little unlucky in your career, a little unlucky in your love life.
04:00Very, very.
04:01In my career.
04:02But now, the balance of the balance comes.
04:08Because you are so happy with your personal life, with your son, your daughter-in-law.
04:13This is what I wanted.
04:14That's right.
04:15Yeah.
04:16I wanted to have a child and you know.
04:18Yeah.
04:19And he is adorable, my son.
04:20And my daughter-in-law.
04:21I know.
04:22He is such a good-looking.
04:23I know.
04:24Okay.
04:25Good-looking boy you've got.
04:26You've met him?
04:27Krishna.
04:28Yes, I've met him.
04:29I met him at one of Salim Khan's previews which you and I attended.
04:34Oh, yes.
04:35Yeah.
04:36Yeah.
04:37And I think Salman Khan he was working.
04:41Tube light?
04:42Tube light.
04:43That's right.
04:44Yeah.
04:45Isn't it?
04:46Yeah.
04:47Right.
04:48How many years he worked with Salman Khan?
04:50He was with them for almost 10 years.
04:52That's a long time.
04:53Right.
04:54He is now a producer.
04:55Yeah, he wants to produce a film.
04:57Right.
04:58Right.
04:59So, he wants to come to the film and nothing else.
05:01You know, I thought he is going to become a big businessman and all that.
05:05He wanted to do his MBA.
05:06Like his father.
05:07But suddenly, I don't know.
05:10He just said, no, I want to become a producer.
05:13Okay.
05:14And everybody said, no, this is the shock of acting.
05:16I said, no.
05:18He is not interested in modeling, acting, nothing.
05:21Okay, nothing.
05:22Okay.
05:23He looks the model type.
05:26But he is very shy and he is camera shy.
05:30He is camera shy, unlike his mother.
05:33Yeah.
05:34I would say that.
05:36When I said your career, you were unlucky in some places.
05:43Yeah.
05:44I missed out on a lot of good films, Bharti.
05:46I don't want to repeat it, you know.
05:48But I wanted to ask you,
05:50Padmini Kapila, which is today,
05:53what advice you gave to Padmini Kapila?
05:57Would you have told her,
05:58that you don't do a film,
05:59that you don't do a film in the 24 hours,
06:01and that you don't do a film,
06:02because you chose it.
06:03All the wrong films I chose.
06:04Yeah.
06:05Because I know that you have a choice.
06:06You know, Bharti, the films are a game.
06:07The films I worked and didn't do well.
06:08And the ones I left?
06:09Yeah.
06:10Correct.
06:11Correct.
06:12And this is also,
06:13that Devanand has offered you the same time,
06:14when it was 34 hours.
06:15And you didn't do 36 hours.
06:16And you didn't do 36 hours.
06:17And you did not do 36 hours.
06:18That's what Parveen Babi did.
06:19That's what Parveen Babi did.
06:20Correct.
06:21Correct.
06:22And this is also,
06:23that Devanand has offered you the same time,
06:27when it was 34 hours.
06:29And you didn't do 36 hours.
06:32And that's what Parveen Babi did.
06:34And then,
06:35he didn't get the film from Devanand.
06:36And Devanand's film,
06:37he didn't get the film.
06:38Yeah.
06:39For personal reasons.
06:40So, I just feel,
06:43is there anything that you would like to tell that Padmini Kapila?
06:46Because there is a lot of young people.
06:50See,
06:51if I rewind my life now,
06:53if I get a chance,
06:55I'll be more professional.
06:58And I don't think I'll make the same mistakes.
07:02Choices shall we talk about?
07:05I mean,
07:06career choices.
07:08Because,
07:09I think,
07:10Mohan Saigal,
07:11who gave you a break,
07:14at that time,
07:15Mohan Saigal was a very big name.
07:17Yes.
07:18Because,
07:19they had Savan Bhadoop,
07:20which was a blockbuster film.
07:22And at that time,
07:23Naveen Nishra and Rekha were stars.
07:25Yeah, big stars.
07:26So,
07:27after that,
07:28when they looked at their eyes,
07:30and they signed you,
07:32everybody felt,
07:33you will also be the next Rekha and Naveen Nishra.
07:36You will also be the next Rekha and Naveen Nishra.
07:37But,
07:38that didn't happen.
07:39Because,
07:40they didn't work.
07:42Am I right?
07:43Right.
07:44Because,
07:45they were waiting for you.
07:46I was waiting for you.
07:47I was waiting for you.
07:48I was waiting for you.
07:49I know,
07:50that's true.
07:51In fact,
07:52they also gave you a wrong advice.
07:54Because,
07:55they said,
07:56don't do this audition,
07:57Laila Majnu.
07:58Yeah,
07:59Laila Majnu,
08:00he said,
08:01you are already working,
08:02don't go.
08:03I said,
08:04okay.
08:05Heera Panna don't do,
08:06because Zenith is there.
08:07Okay.
08:08Rekhi,
08:09Rekhi,
08:10Rekhi,
08:11Rekhi,
08:12Rekhi,
08:13Rekhi.
08:14Very good.
08:15girlfriend,
08:16former girlfriend.
08:17That was a very good role.
08:19And,
08:20Rekhi,
08:21Rekhi,
08:22Rekhi,
08:23Rekhi.
08:24So,
08:25is there anything else,
08:26Devanandh ki film,
08:28aapne choose kiya,
08:30jo,
08:31ultimately bani nahi aapta saath.
08:33And,
08:34I think Shabana got that role.
08:35Yeah.
08:36And then,
08:37you said,
08:38no to Chhati's Ghante,
08:39and Parveen Babi took that,
08:40and that did well for her.
08:42Even though,
08:43that was also not such a big hit,
08:44but,
08:45she did well in it.
08:46So,
08:47another film,
08:48Ek Baar Pher,
08:49it was a small film,
08:50by Vinod Pandey.
08:51And,
08:52he was after me,
08:53please do this film,
08:54please do the film.
08:55I said,
08:56okay,
08:57but,
08:58I read the script,
08:59there was one scene,
09:00which was very,
09:01you know,
09:02very bold.
09:03So,
09:04I said,
09:05if you,
09:06I can't do this.
09:07Eventually,
09:08it was not there also,
09:09in the film,
09:10you know.
09:11I had taken a ticket in black,
09:12and taken a picture.
09:13Ultimately.
09:14I said,
09:15let me see,
09:16and I liked the film.
09:17So,
09:18for those days,
09:19it was a path breaking film.
09:20Yeah.
09:21That scene was a bit too bold,
09:22you know.
09:23the hero,
09:24putting his hand on my,
09:25whatever.
09:26I said,
09:27no,
09:28I can't do it.
09:29So,
09:30you had inhibitions,
09:31you didn't want to do certain things.
09:33No,
09:34but at that time,
09:35you know,
09:36I was pretty young,
09:37and I didn't want to do such a bold scene.
09:39Okay.
09:40You know.
09:41You are uncomfortable.
09:42And,
09:43like you said,
09:44that scene is not in the picture.
09:45It is not in the picture.
09:46Just see.
09:47Yeah.
09:48But,
09:49actually,
09:50you must have missed out on quite a few opportunities,
09:52right?
09:53Plenty.
09:54Yeah.
09:55Yeah.
09:56Where the choices are wrong,
09:57you know,
09:58whatever.
09:59Because,
10:00I also know that you did not want to play Amitabh Bachchan's sister.
10:03In Mokadar Ka Sikandar.
10:04In Mokadar Ka Sikandar.
10:05And then,
10:06but you did a small role in La Varis,
10:09where you were Ranjit's girlfriend.
10:12Yeah.
10:13So, Amitabh Bachchan,
10:14you are calling her daughter?
10:15Yes.
10:16Listen,
10:17in that film,
10:18there were two roles.
10:19One was Preeti Saprooh.
10:21She did
10:22Behen.
10:23Behen's role.
10:24So,
10:25I believe,
10:26when they were shooting,
10:27Amit Ji told Prakash Mehra,
10:29he said,
10:30you call Padmani for this role.
10:31It's a very emotional role.
10:33And so,
10:34he said,
10:35but if I tell her to do that role,
10:36she'll run away,
10:37because she'll say,
10:38behen's role,
10:39you know.
10:40So,
10:41let her do that role.
10:42Ah,
10:43yeah.
10:44I regret it,
10:45because,
10:46you know,
10:47such,
10:48in Kabhi Kabhi,
10:49can you imagine,
10:50it was a cameo role,
10:51which Mumtaz's niece did that role,
10:52eventually.
10:53Yaade.
10:54Nasreen.
10:55That role was offered to me,
10:56as she had offered.
10:57And I didn't do it.
10:58And you didn't do it.
10:59I said,
11:00so many people,
11:01you know,
11:02I made a lot of wrong choices.
11:04But,
11:05why did you make these wrong choices?
11:06I don't know.
11:07Did somebody misguide you,
11:08or was it your own?
11:10Ah,
11:12I think it was a blend of both.
11:15Galat advisor?
11:16Yeah.
11:17Aapki bi soch.
11:18Okay.
11:19Okay.
11:20Okay.
11:21Because,
11:22I would think,
11:23you come from a film family.
11:24Not really.
11:25Aapki pita ji based actor the,
11:27or mummi bi producer thi.
11:29Mummi became a producer,
11:30after I became an actor.
11:32She was a working person.
11:34She was an executive in one firm.
11:37And,
11:38she was a very simple lady.
11:40Very simple.
11:41I remember her.
11:42Yes.
11:43A real sweetheart.
11:44I miss her alone.
11:45She was very friendly with all your friends.
11:46Yeah.
11:47If you cook,
11:48you can see everything.
11:49Correct.
11:50Correct.
11:51Yes.
11:52Yes.
11:53If you are a film family,
11:55then,
11:56you will probably get guidance.
11:58See,
11:59when my dad was actually an actor,
12:01he worked in J.P. Dutta's father's film,
12:04O.P. Dutta's pilot officer.
12:07He was the hero.
12:08Yeah.
12:09Okay.
12:10And I found that booklet,
12:11and I sent it to J.P.
12:12and he said,
12:13my God,
12:14where did you find this?
12:15Some fan sent me.
12:16Oh.
12:17And,
12:18I mean,
12:19a few years ago,
12:20you had a refugee with J.P. Dutta,
12:24right?
12:25Yeah.
12:26What a coincidence.
12:27Yeah.
12:28I mean,
12:29your dad worked with his father,
12:30and you worked with J.P.
12:31That's right.
12:32But,
12:33that was the last time we saw you,
12:34right?
12:35After the refugee,
12:36you have read it?
12:37Yeah.
12:38You know,
12:39Bharti,
12:40what happened was that,
12:41when the film released,
12:42then,
12:43there was one legal matter going on in Delhi.
12:45With your husband.
12:46Yeah.
12:47So,
12:48I had to make a choice.
12:49So,
12:50I had to make a choice.
12:51No,
12:52no,
12:53it was against the family company,
12:55not against my husband.
12:56Okay.
12:57We were on one side.
13:01So,
13:03I had to make a choice.
13:06Then,
13:07I said,
13:08I have my son.
13:09You know,
13:10films,
13:11you're never sure what's going to happen.
13:12And,
13:13it was such a booming career.
13:15That's right.
13:16Yeah.
13:17That's right.
13:18So,
13:19you,
13:20I mean,
13:21your attention shifted to that legal case,
13:22in Delhi.
13:23Yeah.
13:24And,
13:25did you also make very wrong choices,
13:27when it came to men?
13:28Because,
13:29you were always involved with the wrong person.
13:30Yeah.
13:31I saw myself,
13:32I saw myself,
13:33I saw myself,
13:34I saw myself,
13:35I saw myself.
13:37I've seen you with Laveen Nishchil,
13:38and I used to be appalled as to tell my friends,
13:41what is she doing with this married man?
13:43Because,
13:44we all knew he was married.
13:45He was very charming.
13:46He was very charming.
13:47He was very charming.
13:48He was very charming.
13:49And,
13:50all of us thought he was very charming.
13:51So,
13:52you just think,
13:53you're 17 years old,
13:54and you've signed up from opposite,
13:55Laveen Nishchil.
13:56Jum,
13:57a big star.
13:58He was a very big star.
13:59And,
14:00he was a ladies man.
14:02Very much.
14:03Yeah,
14:04he had a rolling eye.
14:05And,
14:06you know,
14:07when I was doing Intazar,
14:08he used to sit behind the camera and watch.
14:11So,
14:12what does one do?
14:13You know,
14:14you're too young actually.
14:15It's not love, love.
14:16You just get flattered.
14:17Yeah.
14:18I felt,
14:19oh,
14:20he's such a big star,
14:21and he's so much in awe of me,
14:22that he keeps watching me,
14:23and all that.
14:24So,
14:26it was that,
14:27nothing else.
14:28No,
14:29but,
14:30it created ripples in his marriage.
14:32No,
14:33not really.
14:34By me.
14:35Okay,
14:36he was,
14:37yeah,
14:38you were not the only one.
14:39Yeah.
14:40He was actually,
14:41now he's not there,
14:42so one shouldn't talk about it.
14:43But,
14:44he was involved with his friend's wife.
14:45Yeah.
14:46That was the turning point in their marriage.
14:47In their marriage.
14:48I was busy working.
14:49I was,
14:50you know,
14:51jahan kam milta tha,
14:52I was working there.
14:53That's right.
14:54That's right.
14:55Yeah.
14:56So,
14:57you were not the catalyst.
14:58No,
14:59not at all.
15:00So,
15:01don't blame me.
15:02Okay,
15:03for what happened to Sir Naveen Mitchell's marriage.
15:05But,
15:06I will say that you made wrong choices there also.
15:08Yeah.
15:09Yeah.
15:10Yeah.
15:11Yeah.
15:12Because,
15:13you know,
15:14after that,
15:15again you got involved with Prakash Mehta,
15:16which was again a married man.
15:17Yeah.
15:18With the family here,
15:19two children,
15:20two sons,
15:21three.
15:22Three children,
15:23yeah.
15:24Yeah.
15:25So,
15:26you know,
15:27one,
15:28just thought you made wrong choices there.
15:29Anyway,
15:30you know,
15:31I'll tell you one thing,
15:32I don't regret anything.
15:33No,
15:34you shouldn't,
15:35because you learn from everything.
15:36Yeah,
15:37I don't regret it.
15:38Yeah.
15:39So,
15:40this Padmini Kapila,
15:41what would you say to Padmini Kapila?
15:42I would have been more professional,
15:46and you know,
15:47I would have...
15:48Would you have got involved,
15:49would you have,
15:50would you tell a girl Padmini Kapila of that time,
15:53that,
15:54listen,
15:55don't get involved with Prakash Mehta.
15:56Exactly.
15:57You would have told her that.
15:58Yeah.
15:59Because,
16:00you know,
16:01what he ultimately said to one of us?
16:03In that day,
16:04we were three,
16:05four people who wrote.
16:06Yeah, yeah.
16:07And we met,
16:08and we met Prakash Mehta.
16:10He said,
16:11that wife is a wife,
16:13girlfriend is a girlfriend.
16:17So,
16:18you know,
16:19I don't know whether you read that,
16:20and you were hurt by it or anything.
16:22Yes,
16:23that was the article I read.
16:24Okay.
16:25And,
16:26that's the time I decided that...
16:28It's not going to work.
16:30No.
16:31I didn't want that kind of a life.
16:33Who would want it?
16:34I wanted to have a family,
16:36and that's when I left the industry also.
16:40So,
16:41today's Padmini Kapila will tell that Padmini Kapila,
16:44that,
16:45don't do this mistake.
16:46Don't do it with a married man.
16:48No.
16:49But you know,
16:50Vati,
16:51you don't plan these things,
16:53that you're going to have an affair,
16:54or not going to have an affair,
16:55or not going to have an affair.
16:56Is he married?
16:57He's not married.
16:58What is his nature?
16:59That's true.
17:00That's true.
17:01I know.
17:02Isn't it?
17:03That's true.
17:04That's true.
17:05You get involved,
17:06then you feel that...
17:07But you also learn lessons.
17:09Yeah.
17:10You learn lessons.
17:11Very bitter lessons.
17:12Yeah.
17:13Bitter, absolutely.
17:14But,
17:15I don't think it's bitter,
17:16because I think everything is a learning experience.
17:18Yes, it is.
17:19Yeah.
17:20That's true.
17:21That's true.
17:22That's true.
17:23But,
17:24you know,
17:25on the rebound,
17:26whatever it is,
17:27I just wanted to get married,
17:28and settle down,
17:29and all that.
17:30So, how did you meet?
17:31Rishi, his name was?
17:32Rishi.
17:33Your husband's name.
17:34Yeah.
17:35That's his surname,
17:36but everybody used to call him Rishi.
17:37So, what was his name?
17:38Jitendra Sumar Rishi.
17:39Oh.
17:40J.K. Rishi.
17:41J.K. Rishi.
17:42J.K. Rishi.
17:43J.K.
17:44Okay.
17:45I don't know Rishi Rishi.
17:46Yes, Rishi.
17:47Some Rishi.
17:48How did you meet him in cooking?
17:50Because he was not a film person at all.
17:52Film person at all.
17:53I can understand Naveen,
17:54I can understand Prakash.
17:55But he wasn't a very flamboyant guy,
17:57or you know,
17:58he swept me off my feet,
18:00or anything,
18:01nothing like that.
18:02Okay.
18:03Are you Kapoor lamps?
18:05Yes.
18:06Okay.
18:07So, Rajan Kapoor,
18:09one of the owners,
18:10I knew him.
18:11I had met him through Komila's brother,
18:13Kuldeep.
18:14Kuldeep.
18:15Okay.
18:16In Delhi.
18:17Okay.
18:18So, one day he called me up,
18:19and he said that,
18:20Pam,
18:21my friend wants to set up a studio in Delhi.
18:24He has a factory.
18:26And,
18:29video.
18:30Pura set up.
18:31Okay.
18:32I didn't have any knowledge,
18:33but I said,
18:34okay,
18:35I wanted to get out of here,
18:36you know.
18:37I had one production guy,
18:39he said that,
18:40I'll help.
18:41I said,
18:42okay,
18:43great.
18:44Okay.
18:45So,
18:46we went to Delhi and all that,
18:49and then,
18:50that,
18:51he was apparently in love with me.
18:54Oh,
18:55he saw you in the pictures.
18:56Okay.
18:57Okay.
18:58Okay.
18:59Okay.
19:00Okay.
19:01So,
19:02that's why he wanted to meet you.
19:03Yeah.
19:04So,
19:05he knew that I liked champagne.
19:07Whatever I liked,
19:08you know,
19:09he would,
19:10suddenly it would come in front of me,
19:11and I said,
19:12oh,
19:13oh,
19:14wow.
19:15Okay.
19:16So,
19:17that is how,
19:18I don't know.
19:19So,
19:20that is how,
19:21I don't know.
19:22I don't know.
19:23Okay.
19:24Okay.
19:25So,
19:26Mr. Rishi,
19:27research on you,
19:28and he would you,
19:31and you fell for it.
19:35Yeah.
19:36In short,
19:37yes.
19:38Yes.
19:39That's what happened.
19:42So,
19:43you already produced a picture?
19:45Yes.
19:46Meeta Zeher.
19:47Yes.
19:48And when I met Rishi.
19:49What was the director?
19:50No,
19:51the second one,
19:52Mohabbat Ka Pegam.
19:53That is the time I met Rishi.
19:55Okay.
19:56And he helped me in completing the film.
19:59And after the film was complete,
20:02I got married.
20:03Okay.
20:04And after that,
20:05because the pictures,
20:06the pictures,
20:07the first one was,
20:09you know,
20:10like,
20:11released all over.
20:12I sold every possible right,
20:14I could.
20:15Okay.
20:16So,
20:17I don't call it a flop.
20:18And it was a very small film.
20:19Deepak and me.
20:20Deepak Prashir and me.
20:21Correct.
20:22And the second one was with Minakshi,
20:24Radbhabar,
20:25Aditya Pancholi,
20:26Shami Kapoor,
20:27and Ranjit.
20:28So, it's a big film.
20:29Bhappi Lahiri Music.
20:30Oh.
20:31And that,
20:32that is the film,
20:34Shashilal Nayar was the director in that.
20:39And then,
20:40he one day decided that,
20:42six edited reels he just rejected,
20:45threw out of the window.
20:46He said,
20:47I have to reshoot all this.
20:48My God.
20:49I said, I can't afford it.
20:50It's a small film.
20:51Correct.
20:52And I'm desperately trying to complete the film,
20:54you know,
20:55and you just want to reject everything that you've shot.
20:58When I spoke to Salim Sahib,
21:00he was,
21:01in those days,
21:02they were making Falak.
21:03Do you remember Falak?
21:04Yes, I remember Falak.
21:05Nice film.
21:06Jackie Shroff.
21:07Yes.
21:08I told Salim Sahib,
21:10this is what he's doing.
21:12He said,
21:13okay, I'll see the film and I'll tell you.
21:15So, he saw the film.
21:16He's saying,
21:17your storyline is complete.
21:19You only have to shoot the climax.
21:21Right.
21:22I said,
21:23that's what I'm saying.
21:24He's saying,
21:25will you be able to complete the film?
21:27I said, yes.
21:28So, you stepped in as director.
21:29Yeah.
21:30And then there was one clause,
21:32which she,
21:33you know,
21:34it was mentioned in the letter,
21:36that within
21:37eight working days,
21:38I have to complete the film.
21:40Why?
21:41Otherwise,
21:42I would have to pay him,
21:43and then,
21:44you know,
21:45like,
21:46there would be legal problems,
21:47whatever.
21:48So,
21:49I said, okay,
21:50I've said yes.
21:51And there were two songs left,
21:54and the climax in a couple of scenes.
21:57We shot day and night.
21:59You can't write one shift.
22:00I know.
22:01Correct.
22:02Correct.
22:03I can do two shifts.
22:04I can do two shifts.
22:05So, that's how I completed the film.
22:07So, in eight days,
22:08you have completed the film?
22:09Yeah.
22:10Complete.
22:11Filmed by Padmini.
22:12Directed by Padmini.
22:13Okay.
22:14Okay.
22:15That's how I completed.
22:16And that's how you became a director?
22:18Yeah.
22:19Okay.
22:20So, it's not that you became a director.
22:23No, no, no.
22:24I was supposed to enjoy it.
22:25Circumstances.
22:26Absolutely.
22:27Okay.
22:28Okay.
22:29Okay.
22:30But was it a good experience?
22:31You didn't like anything else to be a director?
22:32No.
22:33I've written a script now, Bharti.
22:35And it's a very emotional story.
22:39Okay.
22:40So, I don't want to talk much about it.
22:43But that was when you didn't want to be a director?
22:45No.
22:46That was when I was released,
22:47and then I'd just get out of Bombay.
22:49And then…
22:50By then you had met him.
22:51Yeah.
22:52Met him.
22:53And then I just wanted to have a child.
22:55So, I was very keen to have a child.
22:56Okay.
22:57Yeah.
22:58I mean, that's how many days you had to eat,
23:02I must have a child.
23:03Yeah.
23:04I want to be a mother.
23:05So, yeah.
23:06And my aunt is a doctor.
23:07She said, okay, this is the right time.
23:08Okay.
23:09Make a decision now.
23:10So, I said, yes.
23:11I want to have a child and get married.
23:13And that was a little before.
23:15Yeah.
23:16Correct.
23:17All these availabilities.
23:18Yeah.
23:19Correct.
23:20Correct.
23:21Surrogacy.
23:22Yeah.
23:23Yeah.
23:24Exactly.
23:25So, you had your son Krishna in Singapore?
23:29In Singapore?
23:30No, in Bombay.
23:31Oh, in Bombay.
23:32In Breach County.
23:33Okay.
23:34So, you…
23:35But you did Singapore shift?
23:36After Krishna was born.
23:37Okay.
23:38After Krishna was born.
23:39Okay.
23:40So, you didn't shift after marriage?
23:42Okay.
23:43You were in Bombay.
23:44Okay.
23:45And after Krishna was born, you went to Singapore.
23:48Okay.
23:49So, you had to pack up your full career?
23:51Yeah, yeah.
23:52Pack up.
23:53Okay.
23:54Okay.
23:55And then when that did not work out, that marriage did not work out very well, then you
24:00came back with Krishna.
24:02Correct?
24:03Okay.
24:04Was that tough?
24:06Yeah.
24:07Because, you know, I had visualized a very nice family life with maybe a couple of children
24:14and with my mom and…
24:16Yeah.
24:17So, I was a bit disappointed.
24:20That it didn't work?
24:21Yeah, it didn't work out.
24:22Yeah.
24:23Then I was so involved with Krishna's upbringing and I started working again.
24:28Yeah.
24:29What work did you do?
24:31I started a serial for Dood Darshan in which I lost a lot of money, whatever I had.
24:38Oh, my God.
24:39Okay.
24:40Then I said, now let me work.
24:43Then slowly, gradually, I started, you know, meeting a few people and then I signed Refugee,
24:50then I signed Diwane, Harry Baveja.
24:54Right.
24:55Then it was Raman Naidu's film, Agha's with Anupam Kher.
25:00That's right.
25:01So, I did about three, four movies.
25:03Yeah.
25:04Then again, the break came when I had to make a choice in Delhi, settle and fight the matter,
25:10or continue with my films.
25:12Yeah.
25:13Correct.
25:14So, you made the choice.
25:15Yeah.
25:16Which is fine.
25:17Yeah.
25:18I'm happy I did that.
25:19Yeah.
25:20I'm sure.
25:21And you were able to give time to Krishna now.
25:22That's the main thing.
25:23Yeah, yeah.
25:24Krishna, my mom, and so they were my responsibility.
25:29Yeah.
25:30When did your mom pass away?
25:3121.
25:32She was such a part of your…
25:3321.
25:3421.
25:354 years ago.
25:36Really?
25:37Yeah.
25:38Oh.
25:39Okay.
25:40That was very sad.
25:41That was sad, yeah.
25:42That must have left to human direction.
25:43Otherwise, she was like my pillar, you know.
25:45Correct.
25:46So, both of us together, like if I… we used to discuss and I used to talk to her and tell
25:52her that this is it.
25:53So, she said, okay, you don't have to sacrifice your life.
25:56You don't get along, you don't get along.
25:58Correct.
25:59Correct.
26:00Which is fine.
26:01Yeah.
26:02So, you were lucky because your mother was there to take care of Krishna with you, isn't it?
26:07Absolutely.
26:08Yes, yes.
26:09So, you were not alone in bringing up Krishna.
26:11No.
26:12Your mommy was also there.
26:13Yeah.
26:14So…
26:15So, Bhagawan, you know, you have to balance yourself, right?
26:18I have been very lucky that way.
26:20But my life has been like a rollercoaster.
26:22Yes.
26:23Totally.
26:24Yeah.
26:25But no regrets.
26:26I think that the day I die, I will not have any regrets.
26:31I have seen this, it did not, it did not, it did not, it did not, it all did.
26:35Yes.
26:36That's true.
26:37That's true.
26:38Yes.
26:39Although I feel that where you are today, aap kaufhi kuch aapne sikh liya hain aur sikhha sakti hain.
26:46Haa haa, sikhha sakti hain.
26:48Yes.
26:49Yes.
26:50Yes.
26:51Tell me, aapne Salim Khan ka naam liya, he helped you bring up, to complete that firm.
26:56My firm.
26:57Yeah.
26:58But you got involved with Salim Khan.
26:59No, no, no.
27:00I am not involved.
27:01I can't.
27:02I can't.
27:03I can't.
27:04I have asked Salim Khan a day.
27:05What?
27:06I have asked Salim Khan a day.
27:07What?
27:08I have asked Salim Khan a day.
27:09That we have heard about you and Pamela and Padmini Kapila.
27:14So, what did you get to know?
27:16What?
27:17He said,
27:18If I have no response to the girl, I am an idiot.
27:23Haa haa.
27:24So, he didn't deny that.
27:26No, no.
27:27He is a dialogue writer.
27:28So, he says all that.
27:29He didn't deny that.
27:30And at that time, you didn't deny that.
27:33What is it to deny when there is nothing?
27:36Okay.
27:37Haa haa.
27:38No, he always said that to being that, you know, with your looks and all, you could have really been on the top.
27:45I don't know what went wrong.
27:47Then it has to be destiny.
27:48Yes.
27:49You know?
27:50Sometimes you can't practice.
27:51So, I said, haa.
27:52What should I do?
27:53If it wasn't in luck, then it didn't happen.
27:55Prem Khan.
27:56Imagine, my clothes are stitched.
27:58Everything is ready.
28:00And last minute, Mumtaz gets that move.
28:03So then, that is luck.
28:05What is it?
28:06It is.
28:07It is.
28:08Yeah.
28:09And somewhere, like you said, it's a mixture of luck and the choice.
28:14Haa, wrong choice.
28:15Yeah.
28:16I don't blame luck only for everything.
28:18Yeah.
28:19But I have made a lot of wrong choices.
28:21What would you have liked to have set right in your career?
28:27See, I got distracted initially.
28:29Mujhe bhi laga.
28:30Mujhe bhi laga.
28:31That was the wrong thing.
28:33Mujhe, because she is not serious about her work, she is getting distracted.
28:39Yeah.
28:40You know?
28:41I think, yes.
28:42Now, when I look back, I think I did get a bit distracted.
28:47Mujhe bhi laga.
28:48Mujhe bhi laga.
28:49Mujhe bhi laga.
28:50Mujhe bhi laga.
28:51Mujhe bhi laga.
28:52Yeah.
28:53Mujhe bhi laga.
28:54And then they were, you know, at that time, I don't want to mention any names, but then people were totally like, even if…
29:01No, you had Veena Thamaan, you had Shabana, they were all very career oriented.
29:05Absolutely.
29:06Yeah.
29:07Even the guy, their friends and all, like professionally, they were very strong together with them.
29:13Mere kis mein nahi tha.
29:15Yeah.
29:16I didn't get that.
29:17Yeah.
29:18But they, all their heroes used to recommend them, and you know.
29:21Yeah.
29:22Here, on the contrary, I don't think Naveen helped your career in any way.
29:29In any way.
29:30That's what I'm telling you.
29:31Yeah.
29:32So, I was unlucky.
29:33And even Prakash Mairav, you may say he was a nice guy and all that, but he also did not give you the best.
29:45I realized that, that he said somebody, he was discussing with somebody, that if I get a big film, then it will come out of my hand.
29:58Oh.
29:59And that hurt me a lot.
30:01Towards the end, I was very hurt, you know.
30:03Yeah.
30:04You can't talk like that.
30:05You can't talk like that.
30:06And what will come out of my hand?
30:08Exactly.
30:09There's a saying, no, that if you have a bird, open the cage.
30:14Yeah, yeah.
30:15If the bird goes, it's not yours.
30:17And if it comes back, it's yours.
30:18Yeah.
30:19So, I mean, you have that kind of an attitude, and that I got to know much later.
30:25That's the interesting thing.
30:26By then, it was too late, Bhakti.
30:28Yeah, I didn't understand.
30:29Because I know that some of the girls that you mentioned, or I mentioned, they were very professional.
30:35Their friendships, they did not come in the way of their career.
30:40It was all very, even that was professional.
30:42Everything was professional.
30:43Exactly.
30:44But in your life, Naveen was a distraction.
30:47Yeah, yeah.
30:48Prakash Meirah was a distraction.
30:49Yeah, yeah.
30:50These people never gave you any help.
30:52No, no.
30:53No help at all.
30:54Yeah.
30:55So, I think that is where it went wrong.
30:57You know, Gunguru, you remember that film, right?
30:58Yes, the Gunguru.
30:59Sorry.
31:00Shashi Kapoor.
31:01Shashi Ji's Vibes role.
31:02Yeah.
31:03Princess's role.
31:04Yeah.
31:05Shashi Kapoor.
31:06Shashi Ji's Vibes role.
31:07Yeah.
31:08Princess's role.
31:09Yeah.
31:10So, when that film was made, that film was premiered in Delhi.
31:15So, after the premiere, Ranjit Goli, he's a very sweet character.
31:19Yeah, very nice character.
31:20Very nice character.
31:21Very, very sweet.
31:22He said, we are very hungry, let's go eat something.
31:26So everybody got a car, two artists got one car in those days, so fine.
31:30Both of us got one car, we went to Bengali market to have food.
31:36So Goli said, what are you expecting from Gunguru, he is asking me.
31:40So I said, I don't know, you tell me.
31:45He said, nothing will happen, you will get some vampish roles, there will be nothing will happen in this film.
31:54You become a producer.
31:56He is the one who...
31:58Goli told you?
31:59Yeah, bluntly, and we used to talk to him.
32:01He is a very sweet person.
32:02He had no ulterior motives.
32:05Exactly.
32:06So he said that nothing is going to happen.
32:08You become a producer.
32:10And that is the time I started thinking and I said, okay.
32:15Then I planned Meethah Zair, against a lot of odds.
32:19Yeah, I can remember.
32:20Everybody said, nothing will happen, how will you make the film, do you have money to make the film, do this, this, that.
32:26So I said, people have come sweeping floors and all, they become producers.
32:30Yeah, yeah.
32:31So I said, I will do something.
32:33Correct, correct.
32:34And I somehow completed that film.
32:36That's right.
32:37Yeah.
32:38But you know, I am just wondering, you were going to be the Bond girl.
32:44Yeah.
32:45I was Rajesh Khanna, because I was very close to Rajesh Khanna.
32:48And I remember when he was made, 007, 007 with you.
32:53Yeah, 007.
32:54007 with you.
32:55And you were supposed to be the Bond girl.
32:57Now, you wear bikini.
32:58Naturally, it is a glamorous role and all that.
33:00And you were slim and very good looking and all that.
33:02You still are.
33:03Oh, thank you.
33:05And at that time, I remember, you, I know you did a bit of shooting for that film.
33:10Yeah.
33:11And he was not a Bond girl.
33:12No.
33:13But he was also on the day that Kaka is the wrong person.
33:17It was not about you.
33:18He didn't look through.
33:19He used to say that Kaka, 007 can't make a Bond girl.
33:22He can't make a Bond girl.
33:23He has no image.
33:24Yeah.
33:25That was also the case.
33:27And then the film was not a Bond girl.
33:28Yeah.
33:29So that was the..
33:30The film was not made, right?
33:33So that was the...
33:34Yeah, but because there was a lot of talk we heard.
33:37We were told a lot of things.
33:39When it started, people started to say that
33:44that this will not be made,
33:46because Rajesh Khanna Kaka is the wrong person to play.
33:49Vinod Khanna would have been very good.
33:51Vinod Khanna would have been good.
33:52He had that image.
33:53But he didn't have it.
33:55Even Mahindra Sandhu did over seven.
33:57Even he did on the agent.
33:59That was good.
34:00Yeah, that was good.
34:01But he didn't have the physique of a Bond, James Bond.
34:03He didn't have it.
34:04He was a romantic.
34:05Yeah.
34:06So actually, he should not have even tried that James Bond.
34:10And he went to that.
34:14I've been very unlucky, I'm telling you.
34:16I know.
34:17And you were all sad.
34:18Crossed her.
34:19Yeah.
34:20So actually, that bunny knight had nothing to do with you.
34:24It was because Rajesh Khanna was the wrong choice for row seven.
34:28Thank God.
34:29It's not my fault.
34:30It had nothing to do with you.
34:31It was just one more instance of bad luck.
34:33That's it.
34:34Yeah.
34:35But if the film was made,
34:36Kuch toh hota farak patta maje.
34:39You never know.
34:41Anyway, now we know.
34:42Yeah, we will never know.
34:43We will never know.
34:44Yeah.
34:45Yeah.
34:46Is there any film that, which you missed out, and which you wish you had done?
34:51All these, no?
34:52All these.
34:53Yeah.
34:54First of all, Hirapanna, he should have done.
34:57Raki.
34:58Then I would have done two, three movies with Devsar.
35:01Devsar.
35:02Yes, sir.
35:03You know?
35:04Yeah.
35:05And...
35:06So many.
35:07Chattis Ghandi.
35:08But what was...
35:09What was...
35:10What was Zenith Aman's care of?
35:11Ask her.
35:12I don't know.
35:13Because it's, you know, I don't know.
35:15I don't know.
35:16Insecurities of the girlfriend, I suppose.
35:17Yeah, because Devsar was quite...
35:18Used to call me Pami.
35:19Never Padbini.
35:20Pami.
35:21And the same character's name is Pami.
35:22Shabana is called Pami in the film.
35:23Ishk, Ishk.
35:24I felt very flattered.
35:25Let's go, my name is Pami.
35:26Yeah.
35:27Come see, come.
35:28Yeah.
35:29So, I don't know.
35:30He used to keep saying that, oh, you're so tall.
35:31You're so glamorous.
35:32Why did you do this intazar and all that?
35:33That's not your first thing.
35:34Yeah.
35:35I don't know.
35:36I don't know.
35:37I don't know.
35:38I don't know.
35:40I don't know.
35:41He used to keep saying that, oh, you're so tall.
35:43You're so glamorous.
35:44Why did you do this intazar and all that?
35:46That's not your first.
35:47You like yourself?
35:48He used to ask me.
35:49I said, yeah.
35:50He's saying, no, this is not what...
35:53You should not be introduced in such, you know, with your looks and your height.
35:57Exactly.
35:58Yeah.
35:59So, I guess, I don't know.
36:00Maybe he mentioned that to her and she said, no, I think, keep her away or whatever.
36:05Do I like Zenith?
36:06Oh, yeah, yeah.
36:07She's a nice person.
36:08She's an extremely nice person.
36:09Yeah, yeah.
36:10I like her.
36:11That's true.
36:12So, tell me today when you look at yourself, how happy are you on a scale of 10?
36:25Very difficult.
36:27But, you know, I have...
36:31Seven.
36:32Yeah, seven is okay, yeah.
36:34I was going to say eight.
36:35That's even better.
36:37Better, yeah.
36:38Yeah.
36:39But now, it's okay.
36:40Because at this age, what does one want?
36:42Yeah.
36:43You don't look at the past.
36:44Past forget.
36:45You look at what you want.
36:46Yeah, yeah.
36:47Right now.
36:48You have a great son.
36:49You have a great daughter-in-law.
36:50You're going to be a grandmother.
36:51Yeah.
36:52You have a happy home.
36:53I have a happy home.
36:54And, you know, your son is going to be a producer.
36:56You have a script written.
36:57And you're going to, you know, you're going to make movies.
36:59Hopefully, yeah.
37:00Hopefully, yeah.
37:01Hopefully, yeah.
37:02At this age, what more do?
37:03At this stage of once, like, what?
37:05Yeah.
37:06If I see, I don't have Bangla.
37:07I don't have Rolls Royce.
37:08I don't have that.
37:09I don't have that.
37:10But other than that…
37:11There's no end to it.
37:12But other than that…
37:13There's no end to it.
37:14There's no end to it.
37:15So, that way, then, I'll become lucky.
37:18Yeah.
37:19But otherwise, I have everything.
37:20Yeah.
37:21Because there's no point in now, looking and saying, I don't have the film.
37:26That's true.
37:27Yeah.
37:28That's true.
37:29Yeah.
37:30That didn't work out.
37:31That whole relationship didn't work out.
37:32Okay.
37:33Okay.
37:34That thing do I enjoy, no?
37:35Exactly.
37:36Exactly.
37:37Why be a hypocrite?
37:38Absolutely.
37:39I was having a good time, and then I didn't realize that in the long run, it's going to harm me.
37:43That's right.
37:44Yeah.
37:45You know?
37:46I was not conniving.
37:47You were not.
37:48I was not conniving.
37:49You were very open.
37:50Very open.
37:51Yeah.
37:52I think to a certain extent, we are going to be.
37:54Yeah.
37:55That's right.
37:56That's right.
37:57That's right.
37:58That's right.
37:59That's right.
38:00Because I feel, we were the 70s, 80s journalists and magazines.
38:05We had a lot of attention on our relationships.
38:09Yeah.
38:10I felt that I only do an affair.
38:12I do not do an affair.
38:13I do not do an affair.
38:14So, you know, the attention was more and less in your work.
38:19Yeah.
38:20So, you are also a cultured.
38:21Yes.
38:22I have also contributed, me and my gang, we have contributed.
38:27Devyani, no?
38:28Devyani.
38:29I don't know why she didn't like me, because she was very possessive about Kaka.
38:34Kaka, yes.
38:35Yes.
38:36So, I think she didn't like me.
38:37But you know, no regrets, I tell you.
38:39Why should you have?
38:40I am telling you.
38:41If someone has failed me, now if I meet them, I enjoy meeting my old friends and enemies both.
38:49Absolutely.
38:50Yeah.
38:51Enemies.
38:52Yeah.
38:53Enemies.
38:54So, life was nothing to complain.
38:55You are saying nothing happened between you and Salim Khan?
38:57No.
38:58Yes, it's been a long time, but it's still a little bit.
39:05So, life was nothing to complain.
39:09You are saying nothing happened between you and Salim Khan?
39:12No.
39:13I'll accept it.
39:15But did his family, Salman and all of them, feel that something happened?
39:20And are they still okay about it?
39:22You have to ask them, no.
39:23But when you meet them, they're all okay about it?
39:25Salman, I met him when he had not even signed his first film.
39:31I know him since then.
39:34So, we are at a very happy space right now.
39:37It's 7 or 8 or 10 just now, correct?
39:407, 8.
39:42It's a good rating just now.
39:45And what are you looking forward to, apart from becoming a grandmother?
39:49Waiting to see my grandkid, that is my first thing.
39:54And then secondly, first priority.
39:56And secondly, I want Krishna to, you know, start his movie and do well.
40:03That's right.
40:04Yeah.
40:05Is Salim Khan and Salman's hand?
40:08No, Salim Khan, I don't think he is that active anymore.
40:13He's done his bit and now he is, he did help at that time, you know, completing.
40:19Otherwise, I would not be able to release that film.
40:21Correct.
40:22So, he helped me there.
40:23And even after that, he's always been so nice and he's been very helpful.
40:28Oh, you come to your home, in your bodies, in your functions.
40:31Yeah, yeah.
40:32He comes.
40:33Whenever I call him, he will say, yeah, when do you come?
40:37And he is the first one to arrive.
40:39He is very sweet that way, very sweet.
40:41And very caring even about Krishna, you know, what is Krishna doing?
40:45What is Krishna doing?
40:46What did he do?
40:47What did he do?
40:48You know, that way.
40:49So…
40:50What was, what is your relationship and what is Krishna's relationship with Salman?
40:56Salman is a sweetheart.
40:58But you see, now he has become so busy.
41:01And when you know somebody when he was nothing, and you know him as a child, and suddenly he is
41:08such a big star that I have to see him and see him, you know…
41:14You don't want to.
41:15I don't want to do all that.
41:16Yeah.
41:17Door se, very good.
41:18He was good with Krishna.
41:20He used to say, you're my younger brother, you know, very sweet.
41:24What are you doing?
41:25And things like that.
41:27But that's it.
41:28Okay.
41:29Yeah.
41:30Nothing.
41:31So Krishna is completely on his own.
41:32On his own.
41:33Okay.
41:34And your dream is that Krishna will become a big producer and you will be also a part of it.
41:42Yeah, of course, I'll be there.
41:43Okay.
41:44Alright.
41:45And that's going, that is your big dream for now.
41:47My first production, his production is the baby.
41:50The baby, yes.
41:51I'm dying to see the little one.
41:53Yes.
41:54We're all waiting to see.
41:55Glamorous grandmother.
41:56Yeah.
41:57Yeah.
41:58But you're looking very nice, you know.
42:01Am I?
42:02Yes, you are.
42:05You made my day.
42:06You're looking nice.
42:07Yeah.
42:08Thanks.
42:10Yeah.
42:11Yeah.
42:12Yeah.
42:13Yeah.
42:14You gave up very easily.
42:15I didn't have any backing.
42:16That is the thing.
42:17Even Intazar.
42:18It was not a heroine's role.
42:19You know what I mean?
42:20Yeah.
42:21Yeah.
42:22Yeah.
42:23Yeah.
42:24Yeah.
42:25Yeah.
42:26Yeah.
42:27Oh, Graves-sap said, you like yourself?
42:31Yeah.
42:32That was his expression.
42:33Yeah.
42:34So, I said, yeah.
42:35Because Rekha was presented in Savan Bhadu as a real chatpati girl.
42:40Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's her role.
42:42How could you give a new girl a role like this?
42:47Yeah, and the title, my God, till today I was doing Intuzar Ki Koi Acha Rol Mele.
42:53I know, that's true.
42:56So now Intuzar Ka time is over.
42:59Oh, okay, it was good, everything was good.
43:02And now you're going to have a fantastic time as a grandmother and as a producer.
43:08Producer, hopefully.
43:09Yeah, yeah.
43:10Because I met a couple of astrologers and they said, very successful but late in life.
43:16I said, how late? It's time to go now.
43:19And they said, no, no, wait.
43:21So success is around the corner.
43:23Hopefully.
43:24Great.
43:25Hopefully.
43:26Congratulations and we can't wait to have you back on the scene.
43:29In a new avatar as a producer and as a writer.
43:32So lovely catching up with you Pam.
43:35Same here.
43:36And all the rest to Krishna.
43:38Yes.
43:39For the baby and for his production.
43:41Yeah.
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