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00:00Namaskar, Sir.
00:03Sir, worldly things are everywhere.
00:07Whatever we see or think about,
00:11the thought process is all worldly.
00:15So, I feel like I am creating my own world
00:20through this thought process.
00:22When it comes to what you are saying
00:27that living without death and all that.
00:32In that also, I feel like that too is just a thought process
00:36that I name some things differently
00:39and I name other things differently.
00:42So, I keep thinking on this and it becomes very exhausting.
00:46There is no clear clarity in my head regarding this.
00:52And actually, in the last 4-5 months,
00:57I have been suddenly hospitalized for different reasons.
01:02And also, there is this physical discomfort
01:06which overpowers you sometimes.
01:09It does not do mentally, but on a physical level, it is very tiring.
01:14It overpowers me.
01:16And so, this also affects the thought process.
01:20Even small things like temperature, physical suffering,
01:23it overpowers you.
01:25And this concept of thought process,
01:29it feels like it is just present in the thought.
01:36If the entire process remains as it always has been,
01:48the results cannot be too different.
01:53There is a reason why the inner thing becomes the way it currently is.
02:05An entire train of experiences over the last several decades
02:10brought it to its current position.
02:14That's what the ego is made of, right?
02:18Experience after experience, result after result,
02:24one belief upon the other conviction.
02:31An array of conclusions validating one's own concepts.
02:42And this leading to a sense of confidence in the way one has been.
02:51So, all that gets together to convert one into the one one currently is.
03:01And there is a lot of belief involved because there are only certain aspects
03:08of one's current state that one dislikes or wants to change, improve or get rid of.
03:16There is a lot in one's current state that one approves of, admires, is actually proud of.
03:31So, it's a hodgepodge.
03:36It's like enjoying the power that comes from burning coal,
03:50but detesting the pollution that it causes.
03:55Think of a steam engine.
03:59One is enjoying the ride.
04:01And one has been on the train since decades now.
04:06And it's a coal-fired thing.
04:10But now one is seeing that it's emitting a lot and there is so much carbon and other gases and other trash.
04:19So, is it possible to keep thinking of certain things as enjoyable or right or proper,
04:38while trying to get rid of other things that are definitely linked to the things one cherishes.
04:53There are aspects of one's inner state and fruits from one's journey over the decades that one really likes and admires.
05:08And they happen to be there in everybody's case, right?
05:12Nobody disapproves of himself fully.
05:19And then there are certain things about oneself that one selectively wants to get rid of.
05:27Now, that's where the problem.
05:29It's not that it is too difficult to get rid of those things.
05:33The problem is in the selectiveness.
05:37If one says, I want to keep enjoying the power from the coal,
05:44one will have to keep bearing the pollution from the coal.
05:51But then one finds one has come to a point where the pollution is overriding the pleasures from the power.
06:07If one finds himself at that stage, then it's time to de-board.
06:17It's time to say goodbye to the entire thing in its entirety.
06:24You cannot be half aboard a train.
06:35Either you are fully on it or you have de-boarded.
06:42And if you are fully on it, then you will have to bear the full package of consequences.
06:53I wish the entire package was detestable.
07:06But it never is.
07:10Certain parts of that package are always cherishable. Are they not?
07:18Even right now, in your narration, there were only two or three points that concern you.
07:31The other aspects of your life, obviously, you are quite satisfied with.
07:37Or rather proud of.
07:42So that brings us to that almost, it has been turned into a cliché.
07:57So the two or three points you spoke to me of, all concern your Dukh.
08:17But that Dukh is just the other side of the various kinds of Sukhas that you have been enjoying and enjoying and continue to have the desire and the determination rather to keep enjoying.
08:43And these two are inseparable unfortunately.
08:49One cannot be selective.
08:54You see, how can I give something to others without letting the thing affect me?
09:04How is it possible?
09:05How is it possible?
09:07If for example, I work in a bomb making plant, where I am manufacturing death for others, a uranium enrichment plant to produce an atom bomb.
09:26It is but very likely that I too will become a victim of radiation.
09:36Even if the bomb is not dropped on others, first of all, it will affect me in a continuous small and passive way.
09:50So these are all interwined aspects of life.
09:56The way one's relationships are, the way one's livelihood is, the way one's social status is.
10:07All that is deeply related to one's inner state.
10:12We cannot want to continue the way our relationships and our livelihood and all our other things are.
10:23And yet want to change the inner state.
10:29Think of all those things that you find admirable in your life.
10:34Think of all those things you seek to protect day in and day out.
10:38What is it that you work for?
10:40What is it that you care for?
10:43What is it that you want to defend continuously?
10:47And then you will see that in all that, lies the seed of the inner problem.
10:59I can not overemphasize that that which appears as a problem is a small thing.
11:14In fact, it's an innocent thing because it has revealed itself to be toxic, indesirable.
11:22You are already calling it openly as a problem.
11:27Therefore, actually it is only half a problem.
11:31It has been detected, diagnosed, identified.
11:35The real problem is the stuff that is never seen as a problem.
11:41But that is the thing that continues to give life to the problems.
11:54That thing remains not only hidden within us but actually actively defended within us.
12:03Somebody comes to you to take away those things.
12:06Oh, you will offer a mighty resentment.
12:11Your resistance will be not just active but probably violent.
12:17Think of those things please.
12:21And it is those things that you hold so close to your chest that continue to harbour the things
12:30that you today identify as your problems.
12:34Is it possible to break away from the life that you have lived so far with courage?
12:44With the recognition that there is hardly anything to be lost in the experiment?
12:53That one is anyway already running out of time?
13:00That as far as the desirables go, one has already experienced enough of them.
13:08So, why not try out another kind of experiment?
13:16Unless there is a willingness to have a total change, selective transformation will remain very difficult.
13:31Sir, whenever I see my profession, I feel like I am doing a fair job.
13:39As I told you last time, I work as an insurance broker.
13:43I have a company which feeds around hundreds of families.
13:48So, I might not be directly linked to their families or I have shareholders.
13:53I might not be directly linked to my shareholders but I feel like I am doing a few things which are helping others
14:02whom I am directly not related to.
14:05Like, it may be, it's not my son or my daughter but I feel like I am doing some amount of good.
14:12Sometimes I think about this, that I am doing this much and I feel like I have to do way more.
14:18It is, I am capable of doing way more.
14:21So, I am right now, currently I am experimenting in my thought.
14:25And if I apply your logic to it, I feel like I have to definitely do something about it.
14:33But I also feel that whatever I am doing in my current field, that is, let's just pursue it up to a certain level
14:42and then before shifting my field.
14:47Also, we have been doing this campaign for elderly people.
14:54Elderly people get their medical claim.
14:58There is a thing called MediClaim where a few elderly people won't be able to get their claims on time.
15:08So, we help them, we help them get their settlements and my organization works with them.
15:15So, you can say I do this out of attachment or attachment for them or for my employees.
15:22But even though it is based on our income and it is dependent on how much we are earning,
15:32but I also think there is an aspect of service inculcated in this.
15:37So, but definitely service comes before the income part.
15:43Please, please, please, please understand something.
15:48In the Grahastha way of life, is there any Grahastha who is not required to do his share of good deeds?
16:04So, there are a lot of good deeds that you have to do, right?
16:10And the householder, the Grahastha, the normal follower of the path of goodness.
16:18He is the one who constitutes 80, 90, 95, 99% of the world's population.
16:25So, all these things he does, he feeds the cow, he gives some money to the beggar.
16:34If there is a friend in need, he will lend some money.
16:39He keeps some sugar for the ants, he keeps some water for the birds.
16:47Then there is Zakat in Islam.
16:50Then there is Daan Dakshina in Hinduism.
16:55This the householders, the entire world over have been doing since centuries.
17:03And when they do this, they obviously get beneficial results, right?
17:09The results are good if you do all these things.
17:13You know, you be good.
17:15These are things of policy.
17:17Netikta.
17:18Good conduct.
17:19Acharan.
17:20And when you do all these things, then you know, you get some benefit.
17:30As per the measure of the goodness you have served.
17:37But what you are demanding is something extraordinary.
17:43What you are demanding is something absolutely extraordinary.
17:48You are demanding freedom from body identification.
17:52And there is no way basic acts of goodness towards the world can fetch you freedom from the fundamental bondage itself.
18:09You are doing something and to the extent you are doing good things.
18:15You are being rewarded with goodness.
18:17Please be grateful.
18:20The equation is not deceiving you.
18:25To the extent you are doing good things, life is rewarding you with goodness.
18:31So, the game is fair there.
18:35But what you are demanding from life is far beyond the goodness you are practicing.
18:43You are demanding liberation itself.
18:47If you are, if you are on the operation table and you want to remain equanimous even at that moment, then you are de facto wanting to be a Buddha.
19:08And that is not being overambitious.
19:11We all deserve to be Buddhas.
19:13In fact, we are Buddhas in disguise.
19:15And we are needlessly disguised.
19:17So, that's your fundamental right.
19:23Obviously, I agree.
19:25But then if that's what you want, Buddha-hood itself, liberation itself, Brahmanirvana itself, then the price that you need to pay has to be far greater.
19:42Kindness is wonderful.
19:44Obviously wonderful.
19:46And if you are a kind person, believe me, the universe responds to you with kindness.
19:52That happens.
19:55And there is a certain large heartedness within.
19:59And there is a certain pride.
20:02A justified pride in living.
20:05That you know, I have given more to the world in comparison to what I have withdrawn.
20:13And that's all very beautiful.
20:15And I wish more people do that.
20:17The world is in need of good people.
20:20But being good is one thing.
20:23And demanding something that is totally in another dimension is a desire of another sort.
20:31I am pretty sure, the young prince, Gautam, when he was in the palace, even then he was a kind fellow.
20:41And we have some kind of literary proof available as well.
20:45You remember?
20:46Nyaya daya ka daani masu nek kahani.
20:49Sunupaman mein bade saveri taadhraman karte the te re.
20:53So, he was roaming in the garden.
20:55That was his morning routine.
20:57And then a bird pierced by an arrow fell at his feet.
21:05And then he refuses to give the bird to the hunter.
21:10That was his kindness.
21:12And he was yet not a renunciate.
21:14He was still in the palace living the life of a householder.
21:17He had a beautiful wife.
21:18He had the kingdom and he had this little kid.
21:22Even then he was very large hearted.
21:24And this bird is there.
21:25And he says, no, no, no, no, no.
21:27You have no claim over this thing.
21:29You might have managed in hunting it down.
21:33But the thing deserves to live.
21:34And I will not give it to you.
21:35The hunter was returned.
21:37And I am pretty sure there must have been an argument and such things.
21:40And maybe he would have needed to pay the hunter off.
21:43Buy him off.
21:44You take this money and you go away.
21:47So, he was kind even then.
21:49But did that suffice?
21:50Did that kindness suffice?
21:53In the palace, he would have remained at most just a kind prince.
22:02A nice prince.
22:04Niceness is not the same as liberation.
22:10He ultimately had to take what we would call in our worldly parlance as an extreme step.
22:18Even if we are unable to take that kind of an extreme step, we must still experiment.
22:24We must still do as much as possible.
22:27Step out.
22:28Maybe he stepped out and went all the way to the jungle.
22:32Alright, do not go all the way to the jungle.
22:34Go to some other place at least.
22:36Try things out.
22:38Life is inherently fair in some sense.
22:42You get what you deserve.
22:45If you are prepared to pay the price that Gautam did, you will probably get what Gautam got.
22:52And you can still practice love and kindness in your palace.
23:00And in that too, you will get the returns that you deserve.
23:04Life in that sense is fair.
23:07So, if you are not getting the returns that you want, then you need to enhance the scope of your experimentation.
23:17You will get that.
23:19It depends on your stubbornness to want and to have it.
23:29Before life takes everything away.
23:31Before life takes everything away.
23:33I hope the health is better now.
23:37Thank you, sir.
23:39I was inquiring about your health.
23:41Yes, sir.
23:43My health is a little better now.
23:46Sir, I would like some more clarity on what you have been saying regarding the price we have to pay, the direction and experimenting mentally.
23:57Would you give more clarity on that?
24:01Because what happens is, I am living in a normal family with my kids, my wife and all.
24:05I am running a business.
24:07So, is there nothing that which remains?
24:13Because if I renunciate all the things, or if I can't, what type of experiments should I be doing?
24:19You see, I actually do not know the details, but let me give a broad hint to the extent I can.
24:31There are things that you must have been practicing since decades, right?
24:36And those things have brought you certain pleasures, happiness, a certain satisfaction as well.
24:43So, they have made you into the person you are.
24:49Now, if you want to exceed what you have, obviously you cannot continue doing those same things.
24:57So, you have to look at what you have been consistently doing since long.
25:02And the moment you detect consistency, you have to see that this is not the thing that will now take you from where you are to the next dimension.
25:12That thing has brought you to the place you currently occupy.
25:17But it cannot, that same thing, that thing cannot take you to another place now.
25:23It's like a bus that takes me from A to B.
25:27And it has already brought me to B.
25:30That bus is not supposed to take me from B to C.
25:33So, I have to get off.
25:36And the bus is wonderful.
25:41Mind you, there is nothing wrong with the bus.
25:45It was the bus that brought me from A to B.
25:48And coming from A to B is in itself an achievement.
25:52Something that qualifies me to now want to go to C.
25:59Had I not come to B, going to C would not have been possible even as a desire.
26:06So, I am grateful to all the things that brought me to this place.
26:10But now, I must get off, I must exceed.
26:24And that does not mean a sharp breaking away.
26:29I am talking of experimentation.
26:32We remember the Buddha's story in a very dramatic way.
26:38As if he just got up one night and left.
26:42There would have been surely a lot of context to that.
26:46Maybe the departure was not an event, but a very spread out process.
26:56Maybe he was experimenting with this, that over several years.
27:00And then after experimenting, one day he found that, you know, I can get a little further away.
27:06And then a little further away.
27:07And then, you know, things take their own course.
27:13So, there is that security that lies in all the things that past has given you.
27:19And I am acknowledging that we need to be grateful to those things.
27:24But then there is a time to move on.
27:30If you will look at it as something like letting go, then there will be a problem.
27:42You will feel the pangs of attachment.
27:47You are not dropping something.
27:49You are just moving on.
27:50Moving on.
27:51Moving on is a beautiful thing, is it not?
27:53Yes sir, it is.
27:55So, one has to move on.
27:59It is not as if one gets into entrepreneurship at a particular age.
28:05Entrepreneurship is a constant state of being, no?
28:11You want to reinvent yourself.
28:15You want to tell yourself, as long as the body stands erect.
28:22It still can do a lot of magical things.
28:26I am up for the next enterprise.
28:29Why can't I try something new now?
28:32What makes me think that I must stick to the existing ways of life, of relationships, of business?
28:39Why can't I start something fresh?
28:42That is the kind of experimentation I am talking of.
28:48Think. Begin. Be better. Challenge.
28:56Do not stop at what you have attained.
29:02Today we talked of deathlessness.
29:03You remember what we said about immortality?
29:06To be immortal is to be neck deep in your occupation.
29:17I am so occupied.
29:20I am so fully immersed that I have no time to die.
29:25Yes sir.
29:26So, that is what one needs.
29:30It is a kind of a fresh love affair.
29:36And it has to be as much of a green field thing.
29:42As a fresh grad from a college begins.
29:51When he first gets his thing incorporated.
29:59We cannot let the old experience extend into the future.
30:03So, I have to start a new identity.
30:07Whatever I have learnt from you.
30:09It is like a new life.
30:10A new identity.
30:12It is like campus placements.
30:14Wonderful.
30:15Wonderful.
30:16Wonderful.
30:17Wonderful.
30:18It is great even just to listen to it.
30:23Definitely sir.
30:24Definitely.
30:25I will do that.
30:26I will experiment as well.