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Into The Void: Life, Death & Heavy Metal S01E01
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03:01I'm Sharon Osbourne and I had the honor of managing Randy Rhodes from 1980 till he died
03:12Randy just lived and breathed his guitar
03:23It was an extension of him
03:28Randy and Randy had a calming influence on Ozzy
03:35Randy nurtured Ozzy's talent like nobody had ever done
03:41And it was a great great friendship and working relationship
03:48He played something and it sparked something in you that I wouldn't otherwise play
04:02Don't know where it came from
04:03When you're in a musical context like that it's called chemistry
04:15Well it's a lot more than that, it's a spiritual thing for me
04:18There's something in his tone and his sound and the way that he played and what he played
04:25That I have not witnessed anywhere else on the planet
04:28Music drove Randy, it was ingrained in him
04:40My mom had a music school
04:48And she was the professional musician
04:52We call her the boss lady or the pit bull
04:55She was pretty strict to us kids growing up
04:59It was like okay, now you gotta take lessons you guys
05:02What do you wanna pick?
05:03Of course he picked the guitar
05:05He was always, always, that's one thing about our childhood
05:09Had a guitar in his hand
05:10And it sometimes, it could get annoying
05:13He'd plug that in and be blasting it in the neighborhood
05:16And I cannot tell you how many times the cops came to the door
05:20Pounding on the door
05:22Because a neighbor would call and complain
05:26Randy was so dedicated to the music
05:28So dedicated that he convinced me that we shouldn't do anything else except this
05:34I was Randy's best friend
05:36We met in junior high school in seventh grade
05:39I learned how to play bass from Randy while he was learning his leads
05:43But the thing that drove our obsession
05:46Was when we saw Alice Cooper in concert
05:49We got no choice
05:52Are you girls or boys?
05:56When we saw Alice Cooper
05:58We went, that's us
06:00That's what we wanna do
06:02We're gonna be huge rock stars
06:04We're gonna do everything we can to make that happen
06:07And we formed Quiet Riot
06:09It was very, very obvious that Randy got better every minute
06:16I mean, he was the whole show
06:22If anybody could steal a show, it was Randy
06:25This is what he's born to do is perform and be a performer
06:32I remember one day we were in the kitchen
06:39And he was sitting at the counter
06:42And my mom said to him
06:45You know, Randy, you really truly have a God-given talent
06:51And he just had tears rolling down his cheeks
06:57Randy and his mom had a really close relationship
07:00You know, he always respected her, which is true
07:03But he was almost like a mentor for his career that he was building
07:08But he didn't even know that he was building a career
07:14Getting signed for us was an exercise in frustration
07:17And I personally felt that Kevin, our singer, was our problem
07:22Kevin was real supportive of what the management decided for us to do
07:28Particularly the type of music they wanted us to play
07:31They'd say, you guys need to be like the Bay City Rollers
07:34And I'm like
07:35Today is with my baby till the night is through
07:38On Saturday night, Saturday night
07:41Bay City Rollers?
07:43Man, we want to be Alice Cooper
07:47But Randy just kind of went with what Kevin was going along with
07:50And, you know, it began to cause problems in me and Randy's friendship
07:54Which eventually led to lots of fist fights, arguments
07:59All the drama you can imagine
08:01It was going down
08:03And Kevin, he went to the management
08:05And he said, Kelly's out of control, he's dangerous
08:08You know, and the management said, yeah, he's out of here
08:10So, that was it
08:12My name is Rudy Sarzo and I play with Randy Rhodes
08:23In Quiet Riot from 1978 to 1979
08:35In late 1979, record companies focused on groups that were new wave on punk
08:41The music that we were making
08:43The image, everything about us
08:45To the music industry in Los Angeles
08:47We were dinosaurs
08:48So we, you know, we were like
08:52We were disheartened
08:54Randy was very frustrated
08:56He really thought it was going to go somewhere
08:58He really did
08:59And finally one day, my mom said to him
09:03You know Randy
09:04The reason Quiet Riot never made it
09:06Is because that music just wasn't that good
09:09And I think he was really crushed
09:12Because he thought, you know, they were going to make it
09:15But it's interesting how things work out
09:18That then he gets the call from Ozzy
09:20The first festival that I've ever been to
09:23Where everything seems to be so beautiful and peaceful
09:26And we're just going to play our music
09:27Because that's all it's about, you know
09:30Black Sabbath
09:31We were a big band back then
09:33Kick-ass players, man
09:35I mean, those tours and those records were huge
09:38Any band is like a marriage
09:41At the beginning it's fantastic
09:44We love each other
09:45You're on the honeymoon period
09:47And then if you get success
09:48It's just
09:49Yes, we're doing this forever
09:51I love you, bro
09:52I love you, bro
09:54And then
09:56The rot sets in
09:58One gets more attention than the other one
10:00And they get envious
10:02And it's inevitable
10:07And every band falls out
10:09I didn't get on with certain members of the band
10:12And they didn't get on with me
10:13And they didn't see eye to eye
10:14Like I was seeing eye to eye
10:16And it was clashing
10:19It was three against one
10:21They wanted him gone
10:24And then when he got let go from Sabbath
10:27He was alone
10:30Totally
10:32Ozzy's always had a lack of self-confidence
10:34He's never really been
10:37I know I'm great
10:38I'm a great front man
10:40I'm this, I'm that
10:41He's never been that sort of guy
10:46Back then, my dad was a manager
10:48And was taking care of Black Sabbath
10:52And I used to do the day-to-day management
10:57The guys in Sabbath thought that we would drop Ozzy
11:02And
11:05That just wasn't the case
11:08We all knew that Ozzy had a huge talent
11:13Great charisma
11:14And that people loved Ozzy
11:17So, Sabbath went
11:20We kept Ozzy
11:22And Ozzy's music is guitar-based
11:25So, you know, you need that lead guitar player
11:30It was critical
11:32I was looking for people for weeks
11:33And I'd given up all hope of ever finding anybody out there
11:37Everybody that had gone through
11:40Just, you know, Ozzy never moved
11:42His head was down
11:43It was like, oh, here we go
11:45It's another Eddie Van Halen wannabe
11:47And, you know, yada yada
11:50When it was proposed to Randy to go on this audition
11:55Randy didn't want to go
11:57He wasn't a fan of Black Sabbath
12:00But my mom said to him
12:01It's an opportunity to learn and grow
12:04And you can always do what you want later on the road
12:07And that's why I think he actually went
12:09Because of my mom, 100%
12:10Suddenly this guy weighing about 2 ounces wet
12:14Suddenly he knocked the door with his guitar
12:16And I thought, wow
12:17I just brought a tune up, Pam
12:19No effects, nothing
12:20I mean, they said, okay, play
12:21I didn't know what to do
12:23And I just started warming up
12:25There was nobody that had a sound
12:30That you instantly went, oh, my God
12:33Who's playing that?
12:38I heard him play at 4 o'clock in the morning
12:40And I was absolutely drunk out of my mind
12:42And I just couldn't believe what I was hearing
12:43And I said, well, you know, let's have a go
12:46Ozzy went home to Birmingham
12:48And then Randy followed
12:50And they started writing together
12:52Just the two of them
12:55At that time, Ozzy had a following from Black Sabbath
12:58He was very well established, you know
13:01But Gieser Butler and Tony Iommi
13:03They were the guys that came up with the songs
13:05And they were the impotence of Black Sabbath
13:07And songs are everything
13:09So that being said
13:11There was a lot of pressure on Ozzy
13:14Because he was coming out of that
13:19Bubble of safety
13:21And what Randy was bringing to Ozzy's table
13:24Was unknown
13:28When Randy first went to England
13:32He had never really been away from home
13:35And he was, like, he was gone
13:38Like, they put it together very quickly
13:41I really wanted to do something totally different
13:44And Randy's just the guy that's coming on
13:46And he's giving us all this enthusiasm
13:48And the youth back to want to have a go, you know
13:51Randy asked Ozzy, what do you want me to write?
13:54And Ozzy said, be yourself
13:57The fact that Randy was not a fanboy
14:01Of Black Sabbath
14:02That really
14:05Made him gel
14:07With Ozzy
14:08They were able to see each other as musicians
14:11Bandmates
14:12And this way
14:13The band was like a clean slate
14:16Randy just knew how to work with him
14:19And pull the best out of him
14:21And he'd got that nurturing aspect
14:24From his mother being a music teacher
14:27He encouraged Ozzy
14:29Constantly
14:31It worked in every which way
14:34For the pair of them
14:36Once he went with Ozzy
14:38He just, like, blossomed
14:41He needed that platform to grow
14:43And he didn't have that with Quiet Riot
14:45With Quiet Riot
14:55Ozzy's melody lines were better than ever
14:59And he was happy
15:00And he didn't feel self-conscious
15:02And there was no bullying
15:04And it was just fantastic
15:06It was much more melodic
15:08It was a whole new sound
15:10They took the Sabbath and made it more commercial
15:26And with Randy's spark
15:28It was like a total new lease
15:31On Ozzy's musical side of his life
15:34It was just...
15:39Electric
15:49Randy's playing with Ozzy
15:50It was just amazing
15:51He's just coming from a whole nother
15:54A whole nother universe
15:57You know, his solos are just epic
16:00Masterpiece songs within a song
16:04A lot of people
16:09Sometimes when they go to put a lead down
16:12Sometimes they think
16:13Of themselves too much first
16:14And they want to put it all out
16:16But you've got to think
16:17What kind of song it is
16:18You've got to put something
16:19That suits the song really well
16:25That was it
16:26It was the end of Sabbath for us
16:28For me
16:29And the beginning of Ozzy
16:31By the time that I joined the band
16:34There was already a camaraderie
16:38Between Sharon, Ozzy and Randy
16:42It was the family
16:45At that time
16:46I'm a freelance drummer
16:47Just looking for a gig, you know
16:49And I got a call and said
16:50Would I be interested in hooking up with Randy and Ozzy
16:53And I said sure
16:55So we showed up in L.A.
16:56And we started rehearsing
16:57For the Blizzard of Oz tour
16:59And so it was in that timeframe
17:01That I really got to know Randy
17:03And his playing
17:04Was allowing me to be the best I could be
17:06In those songs
17:07The album was starting to get some air playing
17:10The shows were starting to really pick up
17:12Going from smaller venues
17:13To bigger venues
17:14To bigger venues
17:23Me and Ozzy are here
17:24Hi
17:25It's Ozzy Osbourne and the Blizzard of Oz
17:26In town tomorrow night
17:27At the Auditorium Theatre
17:28It was amazing
17:29How Sharon was able to build the band
17:32The only way to do it
17:34Was with constant touring
17:36But sometimes when you're on the road
17:39It can be very, very tough
17:41Especially back then
17:42Randy loved Ozzy
17:45But Ozzy's at that period in his life
17:48And it's well documented
17:49He was drinking
17:50And things got crazy
17:52Nobody under the influence
17:56Of any alcohol or drug
17:57Is the same person
17:59It's like the total Dr. Jekyll
18:02And Mr. Hyde Syndrome
18:03I mean I bought by some fireworks one time
18:06So I'm letting these rockets fly down
18:08The corridor of this hotel
18:10And I'm drunk as a fool
18:11Drunk as a fool
18:12Next minute
18:13Handcuffs
18:14Back of the car
18:15Jile for the night
18:16I am banned
18:17From Salt Lake City
18:18That was hard for Randy
18:21You know
18:22It wasn't about the partying part for him
18:24I'm not saying he was an angel
18:26But Randy was very serious
18:28And focused
18:29And I think that's why he started taking the classical lessons
18:34We would be on the road
18:38And Randy would have his itinerary
18:40And he would be phoning ahead
18:41Trying to book time with a classical teacher
18:44And mostly in major markets like Chicago or New York
18:47Or bigger cities
18:48Because that's where the really good teachers
18:50Because it was hard for Randy to find a teacher
18:52That knew more than he knew
18:53It wasn't until I heard him playing his classical in the hotel room
18:57You know
18:58Just jamming around on his classical
19:00It was transformational
19:01It was just
19:02Like that's what God put him on the planet to do
19:06There's not many people that I know
19:12Would have done that
19:13Actually called up a guitar teacher
19:15When you're in a hit rock band
19:18It's just
19:19Not very common
19:21Randy Rhodes has plenty to be pleased about
19:24Since he teamed up with Ozzy Osbourne
19:26The editors of Guitar Player magazine
19:28Have just presented the hard driving guitarist
19:30With the best new talent award for 1981
19:33It makes you realize there's a lot of responsibility
19:36And I want to really get myself together
19:39And work harder, you know
19:40Because I'm really proud and honored
19:43And I don't want to stop here, you know
19:49Here's this rock star who's made it big
19:52People are recognizing him now
19:54And it didn't fit right with him
19:58I don't think he ever saw himself as a rock star
20:02At all
20:03You know, he saw himself as a musician
20:06And he was deeply devoted to the band
20:10There's no question about that
20:12He knew that there was so much more
20:15That he could do as a musician
20:18But first he needed to be educated
20:21Ozzy Osbourne is currently on tour promoting his newest album
20:30Diary of a Madman
20:32His stage set is a $250,000 haunted mansion
20:37Complete with trolls, secret passageways
20:40And a giant mechanical hand
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23:42Randy's experience of business was he was very naive so he should have been he was a little kid
23:55wide-eyed didn't know how ugly this business can be and at that time being involved with my father
24:03it was very threatening and so it was very hard on on all of us you know he was all about musical
24:12integrity and i think randy at that moment that that project was presented to go in and record
24:20the blacks out with material he had just had road fatigue i could see that he just needed a break
24:35he was a very homesick person i know how happy he was when he came home as a matter of fact
24:42one of the last times he came home we were standing at that counter that's where she told him
24:48you have a god-given talent that's where everything happened at that counter
24:53anyway so we're standing there talking and all of a sudden he goes oh no randy's cigarette had burnt a
25:02hole in the counter and he was mortified and he's like oh my god what do i do mom's gonna be so pissed
25:11at me i said don't worry randy we'll just cover it up with some stuff don't worry about it that's what
25:16we did and that dang it that it's still there that was the last time i saw him march 15 1982
25:26my memories of the very last show it was just another great show i could see that randy and ozzy
25:38were getting closer than they had been the tension was gone in the bus randy he had agreed to make the record
25:50and there was an air of camaraderie
25:54it was a long bus drive you talking about the bus ride to florida yeah
26:02i think we listened to somebody's show tape from that night because we recorded every night
26:10on a cassette it was part of the original level of the bus drive you know
26:17and that last bus journey from knoxville tennessee to orlando florida
26:22he turned on to me and said he wanted to quit rock and roll he wanted to go to ucla and get a degree in
26:27classical guitar and i said to him do they get the rest of your life to do that and he wasn't really
26:33into it wasn't a guy that was into being a mega really rock star he tried it was a success of it
26:41you know he wanted to move on
26:46we were traveling to florida
26:49and the air conditioning had broken and we got to the base where they were then going to fix the
26:58air conditioning and unbeknownst to me not only did this bus company rent out buses but they rented out
27:10helicopters and little planes
27:12i never allowed anybody that wasn't working personnel to travel on the bus
27:25but the
27:27tour manager had allowed the bus driver's wife to travel on the bus
27:35unbeknownst to us she wanted a divorce from him i was not a party to it but they were going back and
27:46forth about their divorce while they were driving and this bus driver
27:53was a pilot we never knew and apparently i'm told that this bus driver who had been taking coke
28:05and told everybody that he could take them up in a plane
28:10i don't know the conversations because ozzy and i were in the back fast asleep
28:20it was early in the morning and we've been traveling all night and i'd heard the plane buzzing
28:27randy came in and he said come on ta let's go for a joyride and i said to him
28:31i don't want to get up and go get on the plane right now and randy just he just chuckled and
28:37he's talking as i he's fading out as he goes out the front door of the bus you know
28:43that was the last conversation i had with randy
28:47i had a lady that worked with me called rachel
28:51and she was not only somebody who worked for me but she became like a mom that i never had
29:02and i adored her and so did aussie and she ended up going up in the plane with randy
29:13i hear the plane buzzing and i go to get up and make a cup of tea and right i'm making a cup of
29:23tea and bam and just feel hot tea on me because it bulk jump bus kind of jolted like that and this
29:29really strong smell of fiberglass and there was a little gaping hole in the top of that appeared
29:34behind me at the on the top of the bus apparently the bus driver's wife had gone outside the bus and
29:42was standing by the door of the bus and the plane came down hit the bus and that's what woke
29:56aussie and i the bus kind of tilted like this i run out of the bus there's this big black cloud of
30:04smoke coming up from it looks like it's coming from the top of the bus there was this terrible smell of
30:10fuel and all we could see was fire i just went out and the tour manager was on the grass with his hands
30:23over his head the other guys were running around screaming they kept thinking you're asleep you're
30:30asleep wake up wake up i couldn't believe what was what was happening i couldn't believe the possibility
30:37of what was happening because every time it's like this is what's happening it's like knowing this
30:43is not what's happening i was trying to reimagine what happened as being something else and then it
30:50just goes back to no this is what is what's happening it's really hard for me to recall because i went into
30:56shock literally we were all in shock and didn't know it at the time it was a slow realization that randy had been
31:03killed it was like a horror movie body parts and um i was screaming at the tour manager and i can
31:20remember taking my shoe off and whacking him across the head when cheryl realized that randy and rachel had
31:28been killed she came unglued she just went off on our tour manager screaming how could you let that
31:34baby get on that plane i ran into the house where the present owner and his wife were in the house
31:44she was washing up and he was on the phone and i'll never forget it he was on the phone and he had his
31:52feet on a footstool in the house and i'm like you've got to call the police call the police he's going
32:03i'm doing it ma'am i'm doing it and she's washing up and i'm like what the are you two doing
32:11there are people dead there's a fire what the are you doing we need help help us
32:17and it was like a fellini movie it was moving slow just like a dream and you was just trying to make
32:27it stop this madness nothing made sense what do you recall of ozzy's reaction he was on the ground with
32:36sitting on the ground he was in shock randy rhodes lead guitarist ferrazi osborne's band has been killed
32:50along with two others in a fiery plane crash in leesburg florida it was just like a horrible dream
32:58a horrible horrible dream
33:03we were treated like the local sheriff was just abusive and foul and a million different stories
33:12coming out that we were around nobody was around at anything it took a while to get a clear picture
33:21of what actually happened and i was told that the plane's coming in like this perpendicular that the
33:30tip of the wing of the plane clipped hit the bus that's how the window got shattered
33:39and then it flipped over the bus hit trees because the bus was parked like this that hit the trees and
33:47then from the trees it crashed onto the garage and there were a couple of vehicles in the garage and
33:53they exploded on impact one of the things i've heard the story about the pilot sort of heading towards
34:01the bus because of his wife what's your opinion yes uh it is in my opinion that is a really strong
34:09possibility she was standing right there in front you know right there in the doorway
34:15you know so he's just trying to put things together why andrew decided
34:23to all of a sudden after driving all those hours to get up on the plane twice
34:29you know certain things just don't don't add up
34:34in a situation like that there's more questions
34:37than answers and even if you get an answer it just leads to another question
34:41has a replacement for randy been determined yet no a replacement hasn't been determined yet but
34:48a decision will be made in the course of the next few days we were beat up emotionally
34:56the police after asking us questions and so on released us and we went to a nearby hotel
35:03but you know the prayer the walls are caving in you know so i just get out of the room
35:11walk down the block and there's a church i said okay let me get some some solace here some comfort
35:20i entered the church and immediately go to like the first pew and i kneel and put my head down
35:25and then i hear this wailing moaning agony and i i just had to raise my head and it was ozzy
35:38the very front we were all in shock for so long for so long and then you have to go back
35:47back and try and make sense of a story to randy's mum
36:03excuse me sorry can i go out please yes of course i'm sorry we've got a tissue milk
36:10we don't have long left guys okay yeah i'll have a few questions as well
36:13thank you all right now you know why you didn't want to talk about randy
36:28i went up to my mom's
36:34walked in that door i forget my mom's sitting in this chair
36:39there was the most blank expression on her face
36:49i ran over to her and i crawled in her lap
36:56it was horrible
36:58she just was like in so so much shock and so so much disbelief it was like mom breathe breathe
37:11i thought she was literally gonna have a heart attack and die
37:18and though it's just the worst day of my life ever
37:22at the time i was just trying to be there as a family member and help on and uh you know whatever
37:31they needed i was there we had to go get the uh gear his amps and his guitars and all this stuff
37:38so i helped me kathy and uh mrs rhodes drove there my dad's truck and it was really sad driving there
37:46nobody talked in the car it was just so so like everybody was so somber
37:54driving that equipment in the back of the truck coming home that was just oh my god
38:00they'll never be played again
38:04the family they were never the same you know
38:09uh it of course it's gonna tear them apart and it did and especially his mother was never the same
38:19and you know i i felt i felt for ozzy
38:23because i know how much it hurt me so i really know it it really hurt ozzy
38:29and when i saw ozzy on letterman he looked like he was just about to break down he came pretty close
38:40and the last week guys the people out there i lost two of the greatest people in my life
38:44but i'm going to continue because randy would have what would have liked me to
38:48continue so would rachel and i'm not going to stop because you can't kill rock and roll
38:53i was terrified because i knew if ozzy stopped i'd never get him back out there again
39:04i would have never gotten him back out there
39:09ever
39:13sharon kept the whole thing together the whole thing moving we knew that if ozzy
39:19went home canceled the tour he would have drank himself to death
39:29i started this whole new thing with randy and randy was like my my younger brother you know
39:34i mean it was a tragedy terrible tragedy i'm still in shock for me actually
39:42how are we going to carry on or what was the next act in the play after randy passed that's
39:49whoa it's a good one man trying to get out and do those dates that we did shortly after randy's
39:56passing what kind of pressure that was it was immense because people wanted the magic that only randy
40:02rhodes could bring to that music this is one thing that that it took me years to understand but i knew about it
40:10but to fully understand it decades later is the fact that it's our responsibility the ones who are left
40:20behind to celebrate the memory and the music of those that go before us
40:29ozzy had a lot of pressure and a lot of a lot of weight on his shoulders you know he had to
40:37navigate that loss and even knowing full well that randy rhodes would never be replaceable
40:43there were a couple of really really capable musicians that came in after randy's passing
40:52but we didn't have that force field around us
40:56randy was the heartbeat of the whole operation and with that missing it was tough it was tough
41:09you don't get over you don't forget you just try and um get through every day
41:20i loved him as a person i loved him as a human being he was the first guy that ever a person
41:32that came into my life and gave me hope randy saved him and ozzy i think did everything he could to
41:44always put randy as the forefront of everything he's done ozzy has always been very very faithful
41:56loyal and sincere about his feelings about randy i appreciate that it's just like with jimmy hendrix
42:03i mean you know jimmy had three years and all that that body of work and it's just you know that's how
42:10much of a meteor that he made and same thing i think with randy he was insanely brilliant when i
42:20joined ozzy in 1981 every night randy it was like going up a ladder musically he would get higher going
42:29to a whole different level every single night it's one thing here in this record you go oh man it's one
42:36thing here on the radio but when you're wrapped up in it and you're immersed in it when you're right
42:42at the source of the stream of the living water i mean it's supernatural man he was a special very
42:52special person i i like to think that he was too good for this world he was on another path at the end
43:03and he wanted to try and explore and spread his wings and that's the tragedy of him he didn't get to
43:11really fulfill his true potential he wasn't done and he was only beginning i think about randy all the time
43:23and love that he's not forgotten music lovers want to know about him he's become this mystical
43:33little guy that not many people knew well and he will live on forever music is something that
43:39that doesn't die it after we've gone it will live on
43:56you
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