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00:05On June the 18th, 2023, the Titan submersible set out for the wreck of the Titanic.
00:15On board were five men, including the pilot and owner, Stockton Rush.
00:21When I started with this goal of getting people underwater, and I also wanted to go deep,
00:24I have what I call the deep disease.
00:26Titan descended two miles beneath the surface.
00:32Then, suddenly, all communication was lost.
00:37A sub was there, and then it was not.
00:42What was that like?
00:43Did they have a chance to worry about it? Not a chance.
00:47The submersible had suffered a catastrophic failure, and all five men on board were killed.
00:54I lost two people who were important in my life. They're not going to come back.
01:00With unprecedented access to the U.S. Coast Guard investigation...
01:04In about two minutes, they identify that they lost conscience tracking.
01:09Everyone in the world wants to know what happened to Titan.
01:12...and exclusive footage from inside the submersible.
01:15Yep, everything's good.
01:16...we reveal the truth behind the biggest scandal in deep sea exploration.
01:20I've gone back and forth a lot, like, whether I should have done more.
01:25Nothing is breaching the hull. It's the safest spot on the entire planet.
01:30What really happened on that fatal dive?
01:34If it wasn't an accident, it then has to be some degree of crime.
01:39Exploration is part of human nature.
02:03Many are compelled to push the boundaries and explore.
02:08And that's where, you know, you have to balance the risk with some oversight.
02:13In September 2024, 15 months after the Titan implosion,
02:19the U.S. Coast Guard convenes a public hearing into the cause of the disaster.
02:24The aim for Jason Neubauer and his team is not only to find out why Titan imploded,
02:47but to prevent this kind of failure ever happening again.
02:52I've met many of the families of the victims,
02:57and that is the one thing that keeps me driven.
03:01Seeing the impacts from a tragedy,
03:05every loss of life impacts hundreds of people.
03:08During the two-week hearing,
03:15the investigation team will question witnesses
03:17about their memories of Stockton Rush
03:19and his creation, the Titan submersible.
03:25To get to the bottom of what went wrong on the fatal dive,
03:29they will have to delve back into how it all started.
03:34Carl Stanley has almost 30 years' experience
03:37diving submersibles.
03:40Mr. Stanley, the board's recorder,
03:43Lieutenant Steele, will now administer your oath.
03:45Good afternoon, sir.
03:46Please stand and raise your right hand.
03:50Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give
03:53will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
03:56So help you God.
03:58Thank you. You may be seated.
04:02Good afternoon, Mr. Stanley.
04:04Mr. Keith Fawcett will have the first round
04:07of questioning for you, sir.
04:09Mr. Stanley, could you just talk about your experience
04:12and your interaction with Mr. Stockton Rush?
04:16My relationship with Stockton goes back
04:18at least 10, possibly up to 15 years.
04:22When I learned that he was making a carbon fiber sub,
04:26I told him I want to be a part of that.
04:28I saw that as an opportunity to dive deeper
04:31than I probably would have ever gotten to dive again.
04:33And then I was excited about it.
04:38I don't think Stockton started this whole project
04:41knowing that it would end in total disaster.
04:46I think he believed in having people have better access
04:50to the deep ocean.
04:51In April 2017, Stockton Rush was invited
04:59to the prestigious Explorers Club in New York
05:02where he gave an impassioned presentation
05:04about his ambitions for deep sea exploration.
05:07Thanks very much.
05:12You may have seen in the write-up of this
05:15that I wanted to be an astronaut.
05:18That's why I got an engineering degree.
05:20I watched Star Trek, Star Wars,
05:22and I wasn't going to get to Jupiter or Mars,
05:25but I did realize that all the cool stuff
05:29that I thought was out there is actually underwater.
05:32He wanted to support science.
05:35He wanted to, you know,
05:38make this kind of adventure
05:42more approachable to the public.
05:46The goal was, where do you want to go in the ocean?
05:50What is the most known site in the ocean?
05:56And it's clearly the Titanic.
05:57And to go to the Titanic, which is at 3,800 meters,
06:02requires a special sub.
06:05Carbon fiber in subsea vehicles
06:08is really the right substance to use.
06:10It's three times better on a strength-to-buoyancy basis
06:13than titanium, the next best thing.
06:16Deep-diving passenger submersibles
06:18are made of steel or titanium,
06:20not carbon fiber.
06:23But Stockton was a strong advocate
06:25for using the untested material.
06:27It would be the deepest diving
06:31carbon fiber sub ever built.
06:33But if we mess it up,
06:35there's not a lot of recovery.
06:36I'm good already.
06:37North-south, I just do so well.
06:39Stockton and Ocean Gate came on our radar
06:42probably in 2020.
06:43My job is to go around the world
06:45investigating great mysteries
06:46and to tell stories of exploration.
06:50And so we thought this would be
06:50an amazing opportunity to shine a light
06:53on what they were doing.
06:54Stockton wanted to bring more people to Titanic.
06:59So he built a vehicle that had a totally different shape,
07:03toilet paper tube.
07:04This carbon fiber hull that was built to be lighter
07:07and stronger from the space-age material,
07:09it had these big titanium end caps
07:11that would seal this cylinder.
07:12When I first saw it on the dock,
07:15it was kind of this marvel.
07:20Titan's design meant that it could carry
07:22five passengers down to depths.
07:25This will be one of the great moments of submersibles
07:29in that this technology is what we need
07:32to explore the ocean depth.
07:34It's our belief that without innovative technologies
07:37and innovative business...
07:38Ocean Gate extensively documented their story
07:41for their archives.
07:42...the days of government funding...
07:44Their videos were used to promote Titan,
07:46to attract investors, the media,
07:49and passengers wanting to explore the ocean depths.
07:52Make the exploration possible.
07:53Woo!
07:56Woo!
07:56Woo!
07:58If you're starting a submarine company,
08:01is there a more famous destination in the world
08:05than Titanic?
08:05No.
08:06Where is your excitement factor on this?
08:08Oh, definitely an 11.
08:10It's an 11, right?
08:11By the time we're done testing it,
08:13I believe it's pretty much invulnerable.
08:15And that's pretty much what they said about the Titanic.
08:17That's right.
08:23To test the strength of Titan's carbon fiber hull,
08:27Stockton took the sub to deep waters
08:29just off the coast of the Bahamas.
08:32I got an email saying,
08:34come out to Marsh Harbor, Bahamas,
08:38and I have a spot open for you.
08:40This was the opportunity
08:42that sub-expert Carl Stanley had been waiting for.
08:45Okay, I'm good.
08:46Lock me up.
08:48Stockton told him that the incremental testing
08:50of Titan's hull
08:51had so far involved 46 dives,
08:55mostly shallow,
08:56with only three reaching deep sea pressure.
08:59All of our test program has been about incremental testing.
09:02This is really focused on the pressure vessel
09:05and making sure that the most critical component of the sub
09:07is safe and capable of handling depths
09:11down to 4,000 meters repeatedly with people on board.
09:154,000 meters, or two and a half miles,
09:20is the depth of the seafloor where the Titanic lies.
09:24To succeed in reaching it,
09:26Titan would have to withstand crushing water pressures
09:28equal to two and a half tons
09:31bearing down on every square inch of the hull.
09:34I did not even come close
09:38to appreciating the real danger.
09:41I was the one that was like,
09:43hey, capture this moment.
09:44Like, I was happy to be there.
09:52Joining the dive that day
09:53was 25-year-old Petros Mathiodakis.
09:57He was in the Bahamas
09:58demonstrating an underwater scanner to Stockton,
10:01and he had jumped at the chance for a ride in Titan.
10:04I was aware that this was extremely risky,
10:08and Stockton was very clear.
10:11He said, do you have a wife?
10:14And I said, nope.
10:16Do you have kids?
10:17And I said, nope.
10:19He said, okay, you're in.
10:28When you're inside of Titan,
10:29on your descent, you're just free-falling.
10:32You're just heavy,
10:33and your gravity's pushing you down.
10:38You're essentially in the dark,
10:41just enough light to see.
10:43Now, left is forward is down.
10:45On the left stick,
10:46this is down.
10:47That's up.
10:47That's up?
10:48Yep.
10:48That's down.
10:49Yep.
10:51The first time the carbon fiber
10:53made a noise in that hull,
10:55it was extremely loud.
10:56It was like a gunshot.
10:59Any noise would have been loud,
11:00but that was loud.
11:04Everyone stops talking for a little bit,
11:06and, okay, I think we're okay, you know?
11:11That loud, sudden noise
11:14that you know is essentially
11:18part of your pressure vessel breaking,
11:20I think that's going to scare anybody.
11:25But the alarming noises
11:27were not the only concern
11:28for those on board.
11:31When we got almost to the bottom,
11:33the lights on the exterior
11:35of the sub powered down.
11:38Do you see anything down there?
11:39Oh, the lights are off.
11:42I see the bottom.
11:43I don't think we're touching that.
11:45Are we?
11:45We're looking.
11:46We had a bit of issue
11:48with one of the battery banks.
11:50Stockton had mentioned
11:50we're not seeing
11:52full vertical thruster availability.
11:56I don't think we're on it.
12:03The supposed goal of the trip
12:07was to test it
12:08to the exact depth of the Titanic.
12:11We got 96% of the way there.
12:14Like, we're getting closer to it,
12:16but we're not touching it.
12:18You're on the dive.
12:19It's hard to put the brakes on that.
12:21So what are you going to do?
12:24The cracking sounds were continuing.
12:28So at some point,
12:30collectively,
12:30we came to a decision of,
12:33well, that's good enough.
12:34Let's call it a day.
12:35I'm sure we were within
12:40a few percentage points
12:42of implosion.
12:48After his experience,
12:50Carl Stanley decided
12:51to warn Stockton Rush
12:53that the noises could mean
12:55the sub's main hull
12:56was no longer safe.
12:57Mr. Stanley,
13:00you sent an email
13:01in April 18th, 2019,
13:04I believe,
13:05to Mr. Rush.
13:06You say the sounds
13:07we observed yesterday
13:08sounded like a flaw,
13:10defect in one area
13:11being acted on
13:12by the tremendous pressures
13:13and being crushed,
13:15damaged.
13:16Would indicate
13:17there is an area of the hull
13:18that is breaking down,
13:20getting spongy.
13:21I was very much concerned
13:28that I kept sending him emails
13:29for over a year
13:30and I didn't even know
13:33a fraction of what we know now.
13:39You know,
13:39I feel this exchange of emails
13:41strained our relationship.
13:43I felt like I kind of pushed things
13:44as far as I could
13:45without just him telling me
13:47to shut up
13:49and never talk to him again.
13:51It's become clear
13:53during the investigation
13:54that the damage was worse
13:56than Carl had suspected
13:57and after dive 47,
14:01Stockton found out
14:02about a crack.
14:04After dive 47,
14:06one of the pilots
14:07for Oceangate
14:08was getting ready
14:08to do a pre-dive inspection
14:10of the hull
14:11and he was able
14:14to identify a crack
14:15in the carbon fibre.
14:17The layers of carbon fibre
14:19were beginning
14:20to come apart.
14:21known as a delamination.
14:23This is what had caused the crack.
14:29In the Arizona desert,
14:34Tim Catterson,
14:35one of Oceangate's contract safety divers,
14:37is building his own steel submersible.
14:41Using carbon fibre
14:42was an option
14:43he never even considered.
14:45Hardly anybody in the public
14:48is familiar with carbon fibre.
14:51It's stable
14:52all the way up
14:53until this magic point
14:56that it is not.
14:59The failure happens
15:01catastrophically,
15:02nearly explosively.
15:05As you're diving down,
15:07the pressure's getting greater.
15:08they heard big pops.
15:11So you've got your fibres
15:13are like this.
15:14When this breaks like that,
15:16that would make
15:17some pretty loud pops.
15:19It's pulling apart
15:20from one side
15:20and is now starting
15:22to roll up
15:23underneath itself.
15:24That's delamination
15:25by its definition.
15:30The damage to Titan
15:32meant it would no longer
15:33survive the pressures
15:34of the deep ocean.
15:36So early in 2020,
15:38Stockton had no choice
15:39but to completely
15:40replace the hull,
15:42building once more
15:43with carbon fibre.
15:46He was convinced
15:48that with slight modifications
15:49to the processing
15:50of the carbon fibre,
15:52this sub
15:53would be able
15:54to repeatedly dive
15:55down to depth.
15:58It's been a long process
15:59to ensure
16:00that Titan
16:01can go to the Titanic
16:02repeatedly and safely.
16:05He was not going to be swayed
16:06from using carbon fibre.
16:07We've refined the process
16:08so that we have
16:10extremely uniform,
16:11five-inch thick carbon fibre.
16:13Stockton and Oceangate
16:15needed to maintain
16:16their company vision
16:17of taking people
16:18in a carbon fibre
16:20innovative submersible
16:21for the trip of a lifetime.
16:23I can't wait
16:24to get out
16:24to the Titanic.
16:28Titan was relaunched
16:29with its new carbon fibre hull
16:31early in 2021.
16:34The Titanic expedition plans
16:36were well underway,
16:38but Oceangate
16:39had disregarded
16:40US guidelines
16:41for carrying passengers.
16:42They did not register it.
16:45Why would they not register it?
16:47One reason to not register
16:49is to make sure
16:50that no one
16:51from a regulatory standpoint
16:52is monitoring operations.
16:55You know,
16:55by design
16:56to operate
16:57in a manner
16:58that you stay off
16:59the radar.
17:00The saga
17:01of the Titanic's
17:02sinking and rediscovery
17:03has captured...
17:04At this GeekWire conference,
17:06Stockton Rush
17:07attempts to justify
17:08why Titan
17:09was not properly certified.
17:10And today
17:12we're honoured
17:12to host
17:13one of the explorers
17:14who is literally
17:15bringing new light
17:16to that saga.
17:17Stockton Rush.
17:18There are
17:19certifying agencies,
17:21the Pressure Vessels
17:22for Human Occupation Committee,
17:24the Subsafe program
17:25in the Navy.
17:27These programs
17:27are over the top
17:29in their rules
17:30and regulations,
17:31but they had nothing
17:31with carbon fibre.
17:33So we had to go out
17:34and work on that.
17:35And one of the things
17:36I learned is,
17:37you know,
17:37when you're outside the box,
17:38it's really hard to tell
17:39how far outside the box
17:41you really are.
17:42And we were pretty far out there.
17:54Hey, Josh!
17:55Hey!
17:55How are you, man?
17:56Glad you made it!
17:58We had read about Ocean Gate,
18:00and we thought this would be
18:01a great story
18:02for Expedition Unknown.
18:03Here was this innovator
18:06that was going to come
18:07and break design barriers
18:09and to create
18:10a next-generation submersible.
18:14Discovery presenter
18:15Josh Gates
18:16saw Titan as his chance
18:18to take the trip
18:19of a lifetime.
18:21I'm all aboard.
18:23Hi, everybody.
18:23How are you?
18:24How's it going?
18:27Stockton was a really
18:28compelling salesman,
18:29and that's a good way
18:30to describe him, I think.
18:31So this is the largest
18:33viewport
18:34on any deep-diving sub
18:36in planet Earth.
18:39Stockton's answers
18:40felt rehearsed.
18:41They felt like
18:42they were
18:43the smooth answers
18:44that you were bound
18:45to get
18:46as you cruised
18:47the showroom floor
18:48for a new car.
18:49Carbon fiber
18:50will be
18:51one-third the weight
18:52of a similar
18:52titanium structure.
18:54Right.
18:55We all rely
18:56on that Spidey sense.
18:57We all have
18:58that little voice
18:58that whispers to us.
18:59And that voice
19:00started whispering
19:01to me early on.
19:02All right.
19:04The only way
19:05to get in or out
19:06of Titan
19:06was through the front.
19:08Thank you, sir.
19:10Copy that.
19:12And so when you
19:13climbed inside of it
19:14and they closed
19:15that door,
19:16they seal you in
19:17from the outside.
19:18Okay, the door is closed.
19:19Now what's happening
19:20to it?
19:20They're bolting it in.
19:21How many bolts
19:22go around it?
19:22Four bolts.
19:23Four bolts.
19:24So we're in.
19:27Yes.
19:28We're sealed up.
19:28You are a prisoner.
19:30My prisoner.
19:31I'm happy to be here.
19:32Stockton just didn't
19:33see, even psychologically,
19:35the need for a way
19:37out of this sub.
19:42This is Titan.
19:43Topside.
19:43Topside.
19:44Titan.
19:45There you go.
19:46There you go.
19:47It's going to take
19:48it pretty steep.
19:49It's where it gets
19:50interesting.
19:54We were in the sub
19:58for hours with Stockton
20:00and the dive was
20:02interesting in that
20:04nothing really worked
20:05right.
20:06I'm having trouble
20:07with our port
20:08horizontal thruster.
20:11Okay.
20:11Let's go on that.
20:20Aft is unlocked.
20:22No UBT light.
20:24Good then?
20:24The sub didn't really
20:26do anything it was
20:27asked to do.
20:28This guy helped me
20:29down at Titanic too,
20:30right?
20:30Yeah.
20:31Yep.
20:34They have an emergency
20:36overwrite on the VBT.
20:38Yes, we have a software
20:38problem.
20:39Then there was an issue
20:40with the software.
20:42The system crashed
20:43at one point.
20:44Hello?
20:44Can you copy?
20:47The motor doesn't even
20:47seem to be moving,
20:49but the control program
20:50says it's moving.
20:51No current.
20:51Yeah, but I don't like
20:53when thrusters go up.
20:54We may just go back
20:55to the platform
20:55rather than go to the
20:56bottom.
20:57We're pretty much here.
21:00Hey, top side.
21:02I mean, it was
21:03non-functional
21:05is a good way
21:06to put it.
21:08And so eventually
21:09it was decided
21:10that we had to
21:11scrub the dive
21:12and bring it back
21:13to the surface.
21:15Okay, we're up.
21:17We're going to get
21:17some good footage.
21:18Big time.
21:19And this will make
21:19it a different story.
21:21On the way back
21:22to port,
21:22Josh quizzed Stockton
21:24about being in Titan
21:25on deeper dives.
21:27How noisy is it
21:28when it goes down?
21:29Is it pretty quiet?
21:30Oh, it'll be quiet.
21:30There's usually a bang
21:31somewhere.
21:32Most subs have a bang
21:33of some type.
21:34When I was in the sub
21:35before,
21:35and it was, you know,
21:36I'll play you
21:37what it sounded like
21:37when the carbon fiber
21:38is collapsing around you
21:39and you don't have
21:40much time left,
21:41this is what it sounds like.
21:42And what, you just
21:43were sending,
21:44ascending, ascending
21:44at that point?
21:45No, no, I was
21:45going down.
21:46I kept going down
21:47because why not?
21:49I don't know
21:51if it'll play
21:51on the speaker.
21:55Those click sounds,
21:56that wasn't
21:58a mouse clicking.
22:01And you could feel it.
22:02I was in the dome.
22:02I could feel
22:03these things popping.
22:05The second dive,
22:06I put earplugs in
22:06and it worked much better.
22:08I just ignored it.
22:09Right.
22:10It wasn't just
22:11a red flag for me.
22:12It was like
22:13a flare had gone up.
22:14Josh confronted Stockton
22:17about how much testing
22:19Titan had undergone.
22:21Okay.
22:21Oh, we're back.
22:23So we've had 52 dives
22:25in the sub to date.
22:26Test dives?
22:27Test dives.
22:28Okay.
22:28We spent a year and a half
22:28in the Bahamas
22:29testing the sub.
22:30But we've done
22:31a massive upgrade
22:32of the software systems
22:34and some of the
22:34external components
22:35and we're testing.
22:37And so those things,
22:38you test, test, test.
22:39And I was thinking,
22:40when did they go back
22:42and test this new sub
22:44in the Bahamas?
22:45And I couldn't quite
22:46make the dates
22:47line up in my head.
22:49What Stockton
22:50hadn't told Josh
22:52was that this Titan
22:53with its replaced hull
22:55had only been tested
22:56so far
22:57on three shallow dives.
23:01Pieces of it
23:02were tested in the ocean.
23:04But the main pressure hull,
23:06once it was refabricated,
23:08never went back to depth.
23:11All right.
23:12I suddenly realized,
23:13what would it mean
23:14if I made this kind
23:15of promotional documentary
23:17about Stockton
23:19and about Ocean Gate
23:20that maybe inspired
23:21other people to go
23:22and take a ride
23:23in this sub?
23:24And then something
23:25happened to it.
23:27And so I made
23:28the really difficult decision
23:29to call up the president
23:30of the network
23:30and to fall on my sword
23:32and say,
23:33I know that this is something
23:34that was a big deal
23:35for you to sign off on
23:36and I appreciate
23:37the opportunity.
23:38But we shouldn't do this.
23:40This is a mistake.
23:41Something bad
23:41is going to happen here.
23:42Well, I'll get there.
23:44In the very short time
23:45that I spent with Stockton,
23:47it absolutely seemed
23:48like he had something
23:49to prove.
23:50Currently, Stockton's
23:51directing this too.
23:52Okay.
23:52He wanted to kind of,
23:55you know,
23:56damn the establishment
23:57and I'm going to kind
23:58of show them
23:59and I'm going to,
23:59you know,
24:00be this cutting edge
24:01entrepreneur and inventor
24:03and do it my own way.
24:10Certainly Stockton
24:11had the money.
24:13He had the vision.
24:15He had the drive
24:17to do this.
24:20He invited me once
24:21to go out flying with him.
24:23He's got an experimental
24:26aircraft.
24:29Experimental.
24:31And he said,
24:32do you want to fly?
24:34Give me that thing.
24:36So, you know,
24:37I'm flying the airplane
24:39a little bit.
24:40It's great fun.
24:42And then he says,
24:44do you want to do
24:44a barrel roll?
24:46Sure.
24:46He told me how to do it
24:48and then I did one.
24:53Basically,
24:54we were just doing
24:55this stuff and he said,
24:56you know,
24:56this is great.
24:57Nobody else ever wants
24:58to go and do this stuff.
25:00I said, well,
25:01it's either going to work
25:02or it's not going to work.
25:04You know,
25:04while we're doing it,
25:05it's going to be a,
25:06you know,
25:06a great fun time.
25:08Yeah,
25:09we could have crashed.
25:15Somewhere,
25:15somewhere in there
25:18we were a kindred spirit.
25:20Why I kept working with him,
25:22I don't know,
25:23because I definitely
25:23did not say yes
25:24to him all the time.
25:31My dynamic with Stockton
25:33was interesting.
25:35We didn't agree on everything.
25:37You know,
25:37Stockton wasn't always right,
25:38but he was always sure
25:39he was right.
25:42Businessman and adventurer
25:43Alfred Hagen
25:44was one of the first
25:45to sign up for Stockton's
25:46Titanic expedition.
25:50I mean,
25:50he was a genius
25:51and he had a very
25:53distinct vision
25:55of what he was going to build,
25:56how he was going to do it
25:57and what he was going to achieve.
25:58I'm here with Stockton Rush,
26:00who's the CEO
26:00of OceanGate.
26:01OceanGate,
26:02it's an...
26:03You know,
26:03there's no doubt in my mind
26:04that his primary motivations
26:05were more ego-driven
26:07than financially driven.
26:08You got the dry suit,
26:09you got the...
26:10Well, Stockton was guilty
26:11of hubris,
26:12and he's...
26:13people accuse him
26:14of trying to prove himself
26:15and live up to
26:17his own ancestry,
26:19and those are relevant points.
26:21And his family legacy
26:23was about the closest
26:24that you can get
26:25to royalty
26:27within the United States.
26:28Stockton was a true
26:31blue-blood patrician,
26:33as was his wife, Wendy.
26:35You know,
26:36her great-grandparents
26:37were the people
26:38that owned Macy's
26:39whose lives were lost
26:40on the Titanic.
26:42She had that direct connection.
26:44They were of the upper crust.
26:50I don't think
26:51most people
26:52can even imagine
26:53the access
26:54that Stockton had
26:56to the U-Bus
26:58Uber elites
26:59of the world.
27:01Stockton's father
27:02had been the president-elect
27:04of the Bohemian Club,
27:06which owns
27:07multi-thousand-acre
27:10reserve
27:11of old-growth
27:13redwood forest
27:14an hour outside
27:15of San Francisco
27:16that they use
27:17for their private
27:18campground.
27:21Who cares
27:22where the original
27:23funding came from?
27:25You know,
27:25it doesn't matter.
27:26It's what he was doing
27:27with it.
27:27That's what mattered.
27:29He pitched an idea
27:31to people
27:32at the right place
27:33in the right time
27:34that threw money
27:35at him,
27:36and he felt
27:37some kind of
27:38psychological need
27:39to accomplish something
27:41and impress these people.
27:44Don't miss the opportunity
27:45to be part of history.
27:48Ocean Gate Expeditions
27:49offers you
27:50the once-in-a-lifetime
27:51opportunity
27:52to be a specially
27:53trained crew member
27:54safely diving
27:55to the Titanic wreckage site.
28:00Rushing things
28:01to market
28:02so that a business
28:03can become profitable
28:04or stay afloat
28:05is obviously dangerous.
28:06The Titanic
28:10is one of the most
28:12amazing brands
28:13in the world.
28:13People are so
28:14enthralled
28:15with Titanic
28:16that it became
28:18a must-do
28:19dive.
28:21And so,
28:21from a business perspective,
28:23it was very appealing.
28:24I understand
28:26the draw
28:26to go down
28:27and see
28:28the underwater world
28:29with the Titanic
28:30firsthand.
28:31But how do you
28:32keep the person safe
28:33who doesn't understand
28:34submersible operations,
28:35who just knows
28:37they want to
28:37go see something unique
28:38from taking
28:39the ultimate risk
28:40like that?
28:42Especially in
28:43a kind of
28:43a commercial arrangement.
28:46They're paying passengers.
28:48That is something
28:49the Coast Guard
28:50has to look at.
28:51So,
28:52to confirm,
28:53to become a mission specialist,
28:54did you pay
28:55Ocean Gate
28:55any money?
28:57I did.
28:59As a mission specialist,
29:00were you part
29:01of the submersible crew
29:02or were you a passenger?
29:03Well,
29:06both.
29:06I was a passenger
29:07who was given
29:08the latitude
29:11to participate
29:12in the mission.
29:14I didn't do
29:15any of the,
29:16what I would say,
29:16critical items,
29:18but certainly,
29:19you know,
29:20tighten bolts
29:20on the dome
29:22and other things
29:23that I would qualify
29:24as what we would say
29:26in a slang version,
29:27monkey work.
29:28Alfred paid
29:31a discounted price
29:32of around $200,000
29:34to join the first expedition
29:36in 2021.
29:38He was on deck
29:39as Titan was launched
29:40for its first attempt
29:41to reach the Titanic.
29:44The dive,
29:45number 61,
29:46was abandoned
29:47at seven meters,
29:49but as the submersible
29:50was hauled back
29:50up the ramp,
29:51another,
29:52more serious failure
29:53occurred.
29:54Did you observe
29:57the incident
29:58as the dome fell off?
30:01Yes,
30:02I did.
30:04The titanium dome,
30:06there were only
30:06four bolts in it
30:07and they just sheared
30:08and they exploded
30:09like bullets.
30:11Suddenly,
30:11the people inside
30:12were looking out
30:12at the ocean
30:13down a ramp
30:14and obviously
30:15a horrifying moment.
30:17Stockton
30:18and his team
30:19had taken the decision
30:20that only four
30:21of a possible
30:2218 bolts
30:23needed to be used
30:25to fix the titanium dome
30:26to the carbon fiber hull
30:28before a dive.
30:30The thought
30:31with the four bolts
30:31was simply
30:32that once you went
30:33to depth,
30:34I mean,
30:34you didn't need
30:34anything to hold on.
30:35The pressure
30:36was so intense
30:37that you couldn't
30:38pry it off.
30:39Stockton wanted
30:40to appropriate
30:41any pictures
30:42or videos
30:42of the occurrence.
30:44So there was
30:45a dedicated effort
30:46to hush that up.
30:48Despite witnessing
30:49that incident,
30:50Alfred remained
30:51determined
30:51to get down
30:52to the Titanic.
30:53It did not deter me
30:55because I understood
30:56that they made
30:57basically a dumb mistake
30:58and they had corrected it.
31:00It was not
31:01a safe operation.
31:02It was an experimental vehicle.
31:05It was clear to me
31:07from Mr. Higgins' testimony
31:08that he had
31:09a very high risk tolerance
31:10and that he felt
31:13like there was
31:13a possibility
31:14that the worst
31:15could occur.
31:17And when Alfred
31:18did get his chance
31:19to go on Titan's
31:20next dive,
31:21they were forced
31:22to abort the attempt
31:23halfway down.
31:27Anyone that went
31:28down in it
31:29either knew
31:30or should have known
31:30how risky it was.
31:32They were either
31:33embracing that reality
31:34or they were delusional.
31:43Christine Dawood
31:44lost her husband
31:45and son
31:46in the implosion.
31:47She watched the hearings
31:51from her home
31:52in the UK.
31:52It felt like
31:55a real crime
31:56horror film
31:56to be honest.
31:58The strain
31:59of flying there
32:00and staying
32:01and going there
32:03would have been
32:03I think too much.
32:05I guess
32:06there was an element
32:07of doubt
32:08in myself
32:09like
32:11did I miss something?
32:13What could I have done
32:14differently?
32:21Ocean Gate
32:22celebrated reaching
32:23Titanic depths
32:24six times that summer.
32:30Stockton
32:31emboldened
32:32by their success
32:33was back
32:34in the North Atlantic
32:34with Titan
32:35for a second season
32:36of dives
32:37in 2022.
32:40Hi, my name
32:41is Stockton Rush.
32:42I'm the CEO
32:43and founder
32:43of Ocean Gate.
32:44Let's take a look
32:45at Titan.
32:46So we're coming
32:47into the sub.
32:48This is the only
32:49toilet available
32:51on a deep diving
32:52submersible.
32:53Best seat in the house.
32:54You can look out
32:54the viewport.
32:55We put a privacy screen
32:56in, turn up the music.
32:58It's very popular.
33:00We have our
33:00control screen here,
33:02our sonar screen here.
33:05This is the second year
33:06we've been out
33:06to the Titanic.
33:08We're a completely
33:08privately funded
33:09operation
33:10and we're funded by
33:11we call mission specialists
33:12who help support
33:13the mission.
33:14So they take
33:14quite a bit of money.
33:15We want to document
33:16what the wreck is like now
33:17and also try to predict
33:18what it'll be like
33:19in the future.
33:26Midway through the season,
33:27Antonella Wilby
33:28joined the ship
33:29as a contract crew member.
33:31She is an expert
33:32in underwater
33:32remotely operated vehicles.
33:34From the moment
33:37I stepped onto the ship,
33:39I never forgot it.
33:40I was signing,
33:41I had to sign
33:41the liability waiver
33:42and Stockton was there
33:44and two,
33:45a room full of people,
33:46some of them
33:47who had paid him
33:48lots of money
33:49to be there.
33:50All I really knew
33:50was a quarter million dollar
33:52price tag.
33:53He says,
33:54the company's registered
33:54in the Bahamas
33:55and they don't do
33:56punitive damages
33:56so don't even bother
33:57suing me.
33:58And he says this
33:59with a laugh.
34:00And I was so shocked,
34:01I wrote it down,
34:01that's a verbatim quote
34:02because I wrote it down
34:03right after this meeting
34:05because I was just shocked.
34:09I wasn't even aware
34:10the extent of how
34:13ridiculous and unsafe
34:15their operation was.
34:17Even just the level
34:18of attention to detail
34:19in inspecting the sub
34:21or pre-diving the sub.
34:23You know,
34:23I'd walk around
34:23right before a dive
34:24and just find,
34:25you know,
34:26cables that were
34:26loose or unplugged.
34:29We wouldn't send
34:29an ROV down like that.
34:31And I don't have
34:32people on an ROV.
34:34It's entirely
34:34remotely operated.
34:38How does this guy
34:39keep taking this sub down?
34:42Delusion or desperation?
34:45Someone who is so deep
34:47into this
34:49and has so many
34:50creditors at the door
34:51and has their
34:52personal reputation
34:53on the line
34:54that they have
34:56to move forward
34:57and keep forging ahead
34:59because there's
35:00no other path.
35:02Basically,
35:04it's like,
35:04pay no attention
35:05to the man
35:05behind the curtain.
35:06We're going to work
35:07on to talk about
35:07all these different
35:08little things.
35:09No one actually notices,
35:10wait a second,
35:11like,
35:12there's a bigger
35:13problem here.
35:15It felt like
35:16watching some
35:17really bizarre
35:18surrealist movie
35:19or something
35:20and I'm the only one
35:20going,
35:21this is insane,
35:22right?
35:22all right.
35:28Good morning,
35:28everyone.
35:30Headed back
35:31to the Titanic.
35:32Right now,
35:33we did vessel
35:34checks this morning,
35:35a couple of
35:36very minor anomalies,
35:38which is great.
35:42On the morning
35:43of 15th of July,
35:44the Titan crew
35:45prepared for dive 80.
35:47Alfred was back
35:51in the hope of
35:52finally seeing
35:52the Titanic
35:53up close.
35:55It was one
35:56of those moments
35:57where you embrace
35:58the possibilities,
35:59you embrace
36:00the unknown.
36:00Titan is a go
36:08for a dive
36:09to the Titanic.
36:11In that moment,
36:11you're living a life
36:12trembling with joy.
36:14That's the essence
36:16of what I felt.
36:22Unlocked.
36:22Unlocked.
36:23We're unlocked.
36:24Let's go.
36:30Oh, my God.
36:53That's it.
36:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:56Pretty close.
36:58Yeah.
36:59That's it.
36:59That's it.
37:00Oh, my God.
37:10We're pretty close here.
37:15Above here?
37:16Oh, yeah.
37:16That's the funnel
37:17number one?
37:19Where is the actual
37:20funnel?
37:20Oh, my God.
37:21Oh, they're all
37:22understeering.
37:24It's a devastating
37:26thing to look at,
37:27but it's also
37:28awe-inspiring
37:28and inspirational
37:30in some ways
37:31and deeply sobering.
37:36And that's
37:37where they were
37:37launching the light bulbs.
37:39Yeah.
37:45After the dive,
37:46it took two hours
37:47for Titan
37:47to return to the surface.
37:48Right now,
37:55we're doing three knots
37:56and we're trying
37:56to get back
37:57to the sub.
37:59We were ascending
38:00in the Titan.
38:02We were actually
38:02fairly close
38:03to the surface,
38:04as I remember,
38:04and we heard
38:05a loud crack.
38:06sounded like
38:12the ship
38:13breaking apart.
38:14It was very loud,
38:16it was very dramatic,
38:17and everyone
38:18sat up and like,
38:19what was that?
38:22Look at that blue.
38:24It's getting bright.
38:26Yeah.
38:27I can see
38:29the surface
38:30almost.
38:32That's a pretty
38:33welcome sight.
38:36I spoke to
38:37a member
38:37of the Horizon Arctic
38:38crew
38:38about the bang
38:39that was heard.
38:41I was, you know,
38:42just concerned
38:43and kind of shocked
38:43that this had happened,
38:45and he told me
38:46that he heard
38:46this bang.
38:47He was able
38:48to hear it
38:48from the surface.
38:50It must have been loud.
38:51When we got
38:53to the surface,
38:53Scott was piloting
38:54and he heard
38:54a really loud bang.
38:56Not a soothing sound.
38:58No.
38:59But on the surface,
39:00and as Tim and PH
39:02will attest,
39:04almost every deep
39:05guiding sub
39:05makes a noise
39:06at some point.
39:07You have dissimilar
39:08shapes and metals
39:09that are expanding
39:11due to thermal interaction,
39:13due to pressure changes,
39:14and it's quite common
39:15to have a noise.
39:17I heard that
39:18and I was just,
39:19like, shocked.
39:20And no one else
39:20really sort of reacted
39:21and then Stockton
39:22sort of shut it down
39:22and, you know,
39:24just, oh,
39:24we'll talk about that later.
39:25And, you know,
39:26for me,
39:27my initial reaction
39:28was, like,
39:28hold on.
39:29You know,
39:29you don't,
39:31even if you heard
39:32your car make
39:32that sort of noise,
39:33you'd probably stop
39:34and go,
39:34wait a second,
39:35we need to, like,
39:35see what happened here.
39:40At the U.S.
39:41Coast Guard headquarters,
39:43Lieutenant Commander
39:43Katie Williams
39:44has been studying
39:46the data
39:46from Dive 80
39:47obtained from Oceangate.
39:49This picture here
39:52is of the placements
39:54of the acoustic
39:55admission sensors
39:56on the Titan.
39:58These acoustic sensors
39:59pick up
40:00and record
40:01any noise
40:02from the carbon fiber hull.
40:05Oceangate recorded
40:06this data
40:07and they plotted it.
40:09On Dive 80,
40:10this purple line
40:11was a loud bang.
40:13There is this
40:13huge amplitude.
40:15When they heard
40:21this loud bang,
40:22there should have been
40:23all stop,
40:24do not continue,
40:25investigate further
40:26to make sure
40:27that that carbon fiber hull
40:28was still safe
40:29for people to operate in.
40:31The data reveals
40:33that the loud noise
40:34was, in fact,
40:36the carbon fiber
40:37delaminating.
40:39Titan's hull
40:40was beginning
40:41to break apart.
40:42You don't need
40:47to be a composites expert
40:48to think,
40:50okay,
40:51maybe we need
40:52to step back
40:52and stop the operation
40:54until we figure out
40:55what this actually means.
40:57But, of course,
40:58as with anything
40:59with Oceangate,
41:00the response
41:01was to just go,
41:02oh, okay,
41:03and then just keep going.
41:04Their system said
41:08there has been
41:08a fundamental change
41:10in the material
41:10of your carbon fiber
41:11and it was no longer
41:12structurally sound.
41:14Delamination at DiVeti
41:15was the beginning
41:16of the end.
41:18And everyone
41:18that stepped on board
41:19the Titan
41:20after DiVeti
41:21was risking their life.
41:26I've gone back
41:27and forth a lot,
41:28like,
41:29whether I should
41:30have done more,
41:30you know,
41:31whether there's
41:31some moral obligation
41:32to do more.
41:34Antonella contacted
41:36the Coast Guard
41:37and volunteered
41:38to give evidence
41:38at the hearing
41:39by video link.
41:41I felt like
41:42it was the right thing
41:43to do to,
41:43you know,
41:44share what I knew
41:45and tell that part
41:46of the story.
41:47Lieutenant Commander Williams.
41:49So as I understand it,
41:50you were present
41:51during Dive 80
41:53on July 15, 2022,
41:55where a loud bang
41:57was heard upon servicing.
41:58Am I correct?
42:00Yes.
42:01Can you please
42:02tell me in detail
42:03about what you know
42:05about that dive?
42:07I wanted to say
42:09something before
42:10the next dive
42:11because they were
42:12going to be diving
42:12the sub
42:13a couple days later.
42:15I went to Amber Bay,
42:18the director
42:18of administration.
42:22I told her
42:23I was really concerned
42:24that they were going
42:24to continue diving
42:25the sub.
42:26Her initial response
42:28was, yes,
42:28people are concerned
42:29about you two.
42:30You don't have
42:31an explorer mindset.
42:32Talking about explorer mindset,
42:33like, this is not a mindset
42:34that you should have
42:35for doing anything.
42:37I did also talk
42:38to Phil Brooks.
42:38He's the director
42:39of engineering.
42:40And I asked him,
42:41are you going to keep
42:41diving the sub?
42:42And he said,
42:43yeah, we'll do the next
42:43mission and then
42:44we'll visually inspect it.
42:46And I was just shocked
42:47by this.
42:47I'm like,
42:47you're going to continue
42:48diving it.
42:48Like, you don't know
42:49what's wrong
42:50and you've seen evidence
42:51that something has
42:52happened in the hull.
42:53And I said,
42:54something has gone
42:55really wrong here.
42:56The hull itself,
43:02you're not going
43:02to hurt the hull.
43:03From the standpoint
43:04of the passenger safety,
43:05you're going to be alive
43:06because the hull,
43:07nothing is breaching the hull.
43:08It's the safest spot
43:09on the entire planet.
43:11But the stuff around it
43:12can get smashed
43:13and mangled
43:13and then that can delay
43:14launches and dives
43:16and all kinds of stuff.
43:17They offered to send me home
43:18and I said, yes.
43:19You know,
43:20no one even looked at me.
43:21Like, I just grabbed
43:21my duffel bag
43:22and walked off the ship
43:23and, like,
43:23people wouldn't make
43:25eye contact with me.
43:28After Dive 80,
43:30Stockton was undeterred
43:32and over the following week,
43:34Titan carried passengers
43:35on three further deep dives.
43:42Two and a half miles down
43:44and it's difficult.
43:45That's why no one else does it.
43:49After Dive 80,
43:50every single time
43:51you would go down to depth,
43:53you were further damaging
43:54that hull,
43:55eventually something bad
43:57was going to happen.
44:02You guys should be able
44:03to see it.
44:04All right.
44:05Right now,
44:06they will cruise around the bow
44:07and they'll spend
44:08about two hours on that
44:09and then they'll come up
44:10and take about two and a half hours
44:11to get to the surface.
44:12Okay, next stop, Titanic.
44:14Titan reports on bottom.
44:20The unique thing
44:21that we're doing here
44:22and we're in a unique spot
44:23where it's like
44:24where so many people pass away.
44:26There are a lot of parallels.
44:28That was a ship
44:29that was more
44:30the finest ships of its day
44:31and I think we have
44:32subbed as one of the finest subs.
44:34We want to make sure
44:35we do things safely
44:36and have a good outcome
44:38and are able to take people
44:40down to the wreck
44:41for many years to come.
44:42I think he painted himself
44:49in a corner
44:49and if he admits defeat
44:52and failure
44:53and then has to tell this
44:56to the people
44:57that had given him
44:58so much money,
44:59what's the rest
45:00of his life look like?
45:01There's no possible way
45:03that Stockton didn't know
45:04how this was going to end.
45:06It was just a matter of
45:07is it going to fail
45:08with me in it
45:09or with other people?
45:12It was obvious
45:13that it was going to fail
45:14in some way.
45:20This arrogance
45:21of the people in charge
45:23when they think
45:24they're above everything,
45:27that really gets to me.
45:30Like, why is ego
45:34and arrogance
45:35more important
45:36than safety?
45:39The irony is not lost on me
45:41that the Titanic sunk
45:42for exactly the same reason.
45:47In May 2023,
45:49Stockton and the Ocean Gate team
45:51brought Titan back
45:52to the North Atlantic
45:53for its third season.
45:55For the first few weeks,
45:58poor conditions meant
45:59four dives
45:59were cancelled
46:00or aborted.
46:02Then, one morning,
46:05the weather finally broke.
46:08It was a perfect day
46:12for diving.
46:13The seas were calm,
46:15the wind was down.
46:17What was your responsibility
46:19on that day?
46:20Basically, I did all
46:21the dive checks
46:24for the platform.
46:26Stockton was the pilot.
46:27He was doing
46:28all the internal checks,
46:29he's like,
46:30this is great,
46:31this is great,
46:32this is great.
46:33We get to dive.
46:37On board Titan
46:38with Stockton
46:39was adventurer
46:40Hamish Harding,
46:43Titanic expert
46:44Paul-Henri Narjalee,
46:45and Shahzada Dawood
46:48and Shahzada Dawood
46:48and his 19-year-old son,
46:50Suleiman.
46:52Suleiman knew nothing about it.
46:55This was just his grand adventure.
46:57As the same for his father,
46:59Suleiman was close to the last
47:02to going in.
47:03And when he came up,
47:05I grabbed him by the back
47:06of his flotation device,
47:09you know,
47:09pull him and make sure
47:10he's not going to go sliding
47:12off into the water.
47:14And I helped him get in.
47:17I helped him get into the sub,
47:21and then I said,
47:22have a good dive.
47:23At 9.14 a.m. local,
47:38according to the Polar Prince
47:39deck log,
47:40the Titan disengaged,
47:43maneuvered away,
47:44and proceeded to dive
47:45with five persons aboard.
47:51They're going down
47:52to see the Titanic.
47:53You have this young boy,
47:56you know,
47:57who's excited.
47:58His dad's excited for him.
48:00The quiet, right?
48:03What questions,
48:05what conversations
48:06were they having?
48:10For the next 90 minutes,
48:13Titan descended
48:13towards the Titanic.
48:17Communications continued
48:18throughout the descent.
48:20There were no transmissions
48:22which indicated trouble
48:23or an emergency
48:24aboard the Titan.
48:26At 10.47.33 a.m. local,
48:30the Titan was pinged
48:31for the final time.
48:34With Titan just 500 meters
48:36from the ocean floor,
48:38all communication was lost.
48:44Recently retrieved video
48:46from the support ship cameras
48:47has allowed the Coast Guard
48:49has allowed the Coast Guard
48:49to see that moment
48:50for the first time.
48:54Okay, so what you're going
48:55to see is Miss Rush
48:57as she is on the comms
48:59and track.
49:00She leads that team, right?
49:02Yes.
49:02You will hear a noise
49:04that is external to the ship
49:05or external to the room,
49:07I should say,
49:08and you will see
49:09their reaction to the noise.
49:10Okay.
49:13Um, yeah.
49:15Yeah.
49:15It should be, um,
49:17I'm going to be starting.
49:21What was that?
49:22Right.
49:26So at that point,
49:26you said,
49:27what was that bang?
49:28What was that bang?
49:28I'm going to back it up
49:29and play it one more time.
49:30It sounds like a door slamming.
49:34Um, yeah.
49:36Yeah.
49:36It should be about
49:37500 meters.
49:41Yeah.
49:43What was that bang?
49:45Now next,
49:46she's going to look
49:46at the computer
49:47and she says,
49:48drop two weights.
49:49Drop two weights
49:50was the last message
49:52from the Titan up throw.
49:54Right.
49:55The message actually comes in
49:56after they heard
49:57the noise of
49:58what could possibly
50:00have been the implosion noise.
50:01Right.
50:01Okay.
50:02Drop two weights.
50:06Tight.
50:07Drop two weights.
50:10It appears that
50:11she thinks something happened
50:12or she,
50:13she senses something
50:14and then the relief
50:15once she sees drop two weights.
50:16Heron, Heron, platform.
50:19What we believe
50:20is an implosion sound
50:20came first
50:22before the computer message
50:24of drop two weights
50:25based upon the speed
50:26at which
50:27the acoustic telemetry modem
50:28chat
50:29and the speed
50:30of actual sound.
50:32That final text
50:34took several seconds
50:35to arrive on screen,
50:37longer than the sound
50:39of the implosion
50:40took to reach the ship.
50:43That is,
50:44I mean,
50:45you figure,
50:46the fatal moment,
50:47you know,
50:47all...
50:48Mm-hmm.
50:51It is.
50:52It's very sobering.
50:53Seven hours
51:00after communication
51:01was lost with Titan,
51:03Oceangate notified
51:04the U.S. Coast Guard
51:05and a four-day search began.
51:08A search and rescue mission
51:09is underway
51:10after an underwater vessel
51:12used to take people
51:13to view the wreck
51:14of the Titanic
51:15went missing
51:16in the Atlantic Ocean.
51:17The Canadian Coast Guard
51:18have new ships
51:19that have just arrived
51:20on scene.
51:21The Horizon Arctic,
51:22a ship that can drop
51:23a remotely operated vehicle.
51:25But if they find that sub,
51:26they've got a huge challenge
51:28lifting it up
51:28out of the water,
51:30maybe from a depth
51:30of two and a half miles.
51:35There's no other explanation
51:38for losing comms
51:40and tracking
51:41when they weren't yet
51:42at the bottom
51:43other than implosion.
51:45They found
51:46what they were looking for.
51:48It was no longer
51:49a search and rescue,
51:50but a recovery.
51:57They found debris.
51:59Stockton would have understood
52:09the reality
52:11of an implosion
52:13being instantaneous
52:14and painless.
52:16You're talking about
52:17something happening
52:18in a fraction of a second
52:20where you're exposed
52:21to temperatures
52:22hotter than the sun
52:24and pressures
52:26more than double
52:28what's inside
52:28a scuba tank.
52:29So they, you know,
52:31they didn't feel
52:32a single,
52:33that it's basically
52:34the perfect painless
52:35way to die.
52:40This was a moment
52:43in time
52:43when their sub was there
52:45and then it was not.
52:53This is the life
52:55of my son
52:56and my husband
52:56they're talking about.
52:57this is the life
52:59of Hamish
53:00and two others
53:01who died there, right?
53:03So it's,
53:05it was deeply personal.
53:09I would never want
53:10anybody to go
53:11through that pain.
53:11So here is a picture
53:24of the aft dome
53:25that came up.
53:27It is filled with
53:28carbon fiber,
53:29fiberglass,
53:30electronic parts.
53:31As we're pulling
53:33each item out
53:34we have to
53:34individually separate it
53:36and we placed it
53:37out on two tarps.
53:39so we're sifting
53:42through and
53:43we realized
53:44what it was,
53:45the clothing material.
53:47It was
53:48the portion
53:49of Mr. Rush's
53:50suit,
53:52the piece
53:52of his sleeve
53:53that had survived.
53:55No, not the whole suit,
53:56just that.
53:57And inside
53:58of the sleeve
53:59of it
54:00was ink pen,
54:02business cards,
54:03and stickers
54:06for the Titanic.
54:16My belief
54:17with the dead
54:18is just leave
54:19them alone.
54:21Same goes
54:21for Stockton.
54:23I wish he was
54:24here right now
54:25and I would
54:25smack him one,
54:26you know.
54:26It does no good
54:32to speak
54:34ill of the dead.
54:37Their voices
54:42are still
54:42in the house.
54:44Their memories
54:45are in the house.
54:50I think I will
54:51never be
54:52the same person
54:53ever.
54:53I don't think
54:57that anybody
54:57who goes
54:59through loss
54:59and such
55:01a trauma
55:02can ever
55:03be the same.
55:05As the
55:06U.S. Coast Guard
55:07investigation
55:07draws to a close,
55:09Christine has
55:10to face
55:11their conclusion.
55:14It doesn't
55:15change the fact
55:15that they are dead.
55:18No matter
55:19what the
55:20investigation is,
55:22the rooms
55:22are still empty.
55:24They're not
55:24going to come
55:24back.
55:25They're never
55:26going to come
55:26back.
55:27So,
55:28do I need
55:29to know
55:30exactly what
55:30happened in
55:31order to come
55:33to terms with
55:34these empty
55:34rooms?
55:35Or not?
55:36And I don't
55:37know the answer
55:38yet.
55:38It's a process.
55:40after almost two
55:50years investigating
55:51the tragedy,
55:52the Marine
55:52Board of
55:53Investigation
55:54reviews the
55:54findings,
55:55which will
55:56eventually inform
55:57their report
55:57and recommendations.
56:00Ocean Gate gave
56:01this idea that
56:02they were safe.
56:04But when you
56:05look at all of the
56:06things that Ocean Gate
56:07bypassed and
56:08didn't do,
56:09safety was not
56:10their priority.
56:10It was a
56:11monetary gain.
56:12He was arrogant
56:13and he felt that
56:13his way was the
56:14only way and
56:14the best way.
56:16And, I mean,
56:16I don't know why
56:17he felt that way,
56:17but he did.
56:18And, um...
56:20Black people perished
56:21because of it.
56:24There were so many
56:25opportunities for
56:26Stockton to stop
56:28this operation
56:28from happening
56:29and he always
56:30chose to
56:31continue the
56:32operation
56:32instead of
56:34thinking about it
56:35from a safety
56:35perspective.
56:37With regards to
56:38the actions
56:38and the inactions
56:39of Mr. Rush,
56:41continued failures
56:43to properly
56:43inspect the hall,
56:45failures to
56:46properly
56:47identify risks
56:49and risk mismanagement.
56:51So many steps
56:52and so many failures
56:52that got to
56:53where this happened.
56:54So really what we
56:55have here
56:56is not an accident.
56:58It's a potential crime.
57:02He knew the risks
57:03he was taking
57:03with that carbon
57:04fiber haul
57:04and with the Titan,
57:06but he didn't tell
57:07anybody else
57:08about those risks
57:08because he had
57:10to make the money.
57:16When people
57:16are doing things
57:17like spending
57:18a quarter million
57:19dollars in a
57:20death tube
57:22controlled by
57:22a game controller
57:24that wasn't tested
57:25by a guy
57:26that's telling you
57:27how he wants
57:29to be remembered
57:29for breaking rules,
57:31it's a message
57:33to the super wealthy,
57:36the oligarchy,
57:37if you will,
57:37that your money
57:38can't buy everything.
57:40If you want
57:41to be an explorer,
57:43an inventor,
57:45an innovator,
57:46that's awesome.
57:47but when you start
57:49inviting the public,
57:51when you bring a kid
57:52into this thing
57:54you've invented,
57:55you have a responsibility
57:57at that point
57:58to be totally forthright
58:00about what it is
58:02that you're offering.
58:03we all know
58:07who the culprit is.
58:11It's not changing
58:12anything, does it?
58:15The culprit died
58:16wisdom, right?
58:17So,
58:18who am I to blame?
58:21Others?
58:23No.
58:24No.
58:24No.
58:25No.
58:26No.
58:27No.
58:27No.
58:33No.
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