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00:00Daytona Beach Florida 1980 the body of a female is discovered along interstate 95
00:09she was found in between the north and southbound lanes she was out there in the woods and was just
00:18a spot where the perpetrator dumped her off it's sad place to be just discarded she was almost a
00:25complete skeleton an investigation is launched who is this woman and who is her killer you're
00:32going to tape off the scene as large an area as possible we didn't know her name she was
00:36jando 1980 you've got unidentified human remains but you have no suspect it's extremely difficult
00:41to solve that crime all leads run dry for decades but then a new investigative technique breaks the
00:48case wide open genetic genealogy can be a extremely important tool for law enforcement it is a strong
00:58component to getting answers in some of these cases criminals who have hidden in the shadows for
01:03years find there's no escaping science and their own family DNA welcome to bloodline detectives
01:18Daytona Beach Volusia County this lively city nestled on Florida's Atlantic Coast is a popular
01:44tourist destination in the 1970s and 80s Daytona Beach is famous for what's the world world's most
01:51famous beach in the 70s and the 80s in the MTV that was their bread and butter down here every
02:01spring break they came down here I think was for about five or six years stretch it was a big deal
02:04like that I can remember being 15 and 16 and seeing that on TV and going yeah that's where I want to go for
02:09spring break I want to go to Daytona Beach you got bike week there's only a few large bike gatherings
02:16in the United States it was definitely a party town I think it's always been a biker town
02:28we've always had a big biker community so I know that that was definitely prevalent back then spring
02:32break the beaches have always been so I think the core of who Daytona Beach is or what Daytona Beach
02:38is it's kind of remained the same it's evolved with more people and obviously changed a little
02:42bit but bikes in the beach are very prominent here Daytona Bike Week is huge and so you've got all
02:50these different draws and all these different people that come here and then of course there's
02:53the Speedway the International Speedway has been around since the late 50s and has grown exponentially
02:59almost yearly practically I mean it's just a monster of an event down here and it's not the one time
03:04the year that they have them we're just getting through with the Daytona 500 you've got motorcycle
03:08events there they're doing a and they've done it years prior to with rock and roll concerts and
03:14things like that so it's just like a mecca for mass entertainment and that brings people especially
03:19young folks there's a saying come to Daytona come on vacation leave on probation come back on violation
03:25so it kind of speaks for itself I was pretty young at that time but I still remember everything it's a
03:33touristy area so we have a lot of people coming and going with the warm climate
03:43but as Daytona Beach grows in popularity so does its influx of crime if you were a student of history and
03:52you understand the area or know anybody from that area at the time this area was very much a product
03:57of the drug trade at the time I-95 used to be called the reefer Express and in 1975 statistics bear this
04:06out probably between 70 to 80 90 percent of the illegal narcotics coming into this country via
04:11cocaine heroin marijuana or what-have-you all came through Florida up 95 they called it the cocaine highway
04:19as I said reefer Express it was a bit of a narcotics free-for-all during that time there was a lot of
04:24crime that was affiliated with it because wherever you have drugs or narcotics you have violent crime
04:28you have murder you have rapes and you have abductions though they all take up statistically in
04:34those areas when you have narcotics free-for-all at 2 p.m. on November the 5th 1980 a shocking
04:44discovery is made by Florida Department of Transport workers they stumble across a woman's remains just
04:49north of Port Orange she was found in between the north and southbound lanes of interstate 95 which
04:58is one of the major interstates here in Florida on it runs north to south it's traveled by a lot of the
05:03community here so she's found in the median between those two in a wooded area it's right there by the
05:11highway it's in the median between 95 so you got cars roaring by each day but she was just down far
05:17enough and into the brush just barely in there enough to where you know they didn't see her for a while
05:22when they first found her obviously it would have started with calling 911 and then law enforcement
05:30would have gone out to investigate when human remains are discovered what we do is first on
05:36scene you're going to tape off the scene there isn't a law enforcement officer a cop out there
05:41who hasn't either worked a case or heard about a case where a suspect dropped his wallet or his
05:45driver's license fleeing from the scene so the first thing you want to do is cordon off a big area because
05:50you never know what you're going to find out there there may be nothing in the immediate area of the
05:54body but there may be something else so you cordon off a large scene there's a multitude of photographs
06:02that are taken and preserved for later on for reconstruction purposes then we go through a
06:07methodical grid search sometimes several times and in the case of body dump location where you're
06:13talking about say you know an area along the side of the road or in the wooded area or something like
06:16that depending on how long it's been there is going to dictate how complicated the physical
06:20investigative process is going to be at the time she had probably been there for several months she
06:26was primarily skeletal remains so she had already gone through the different stages of decomposition
06:30it was really a sad situation because it's basically like a culvert or a retention area for
06:40runoff water when it rains a lot it's kind of a swampy area right there it's sad place to be just
06:47discarded during their search for evidence investigators come across a pair of shoes
06:54and a red t-shirt that possibly belonged to the woman the t-shirt that was found had a slogan do it in
07:02the dirt the body has been exposed to the wooded area with foliage and the seasonal changes and things
07:09like that items that are of evidentiary value could be buried under several inches of dried foliage leaves
07:17falling trees you name it so it's not uncommon for us to go back and do a grid search come up with
07:25nothing or come up with a few things that yield no positive results and go back while the area is still
07:32protected and do another search another layer down and another layer down trying to find something of
07:36value obviously a certain point you've reached your saturation point but that was done we did two
07:42grid searches down below each went down approximately eight to ten inches to see if there was anything else
07:49there could possibly be considered evidence and unfortunately it was never negative results
07:53no further clues about the woman's identity are found at the scene the next step is to try to determine the
08:02cause of death the remains were placed into a transport pouch that we have and it'll be brought
08:09here to the lab from there the forensic pathologist will do their examination they'll clean up the
08:15individual if there's trauma related we do pictures overall of everything before we clean anything up
08:20most times we wait for the pathologist permission to touch or clean anything in that regard once
08:25they've granted that permission and they've laid eyes on the individual then we'll move through
08:29cleaning them up in the manner that the doctor would like and again once they're clean the doc will
08:33take pictures of the decedent all over again just so that you get very clear margins of exactly what
08:38you're looking at from there the doctor will look at the internal organs if they deem that necessary for
08:43the case in this case steps of the autopsy are limited based on the fact that there's no internal
08:49organs left or anything i don't want to say uncharacteristically but fortunately in our case the body
08:53had not been disturbed to any significant degree by any animal activity so all of the bones the
09:00majority of them were still there but during the autopsy it was discovered there were several marks in
09:05the upper rib cage but the thing is is that when you have a bone and it shows evidence of trauma such as
09:12that that trauma would have to have been precipitated by some sort of serious injury some sort of life
09:18and death injury or you know a you know a critical incident so based on the uh the trauma that was found to
09:25have been sustained to her rib cage we determined that she had been stabbed in the upper torso and that
09:29was likely the cause of her death whether she died immediately from that or there was some other
09:34contributing factors but there was no other injuries to her body unfortunately because of the
09:39decomposition level it was unknown if she had also been strangled or suffocated in any manner but we know she'd been
09:46in an hour and every day she'd been stabbed for someone to stay left and she'd been stabbed for someone to
09:51be left on the side of the road like that that's pretty horrific
09:57The Volusia County Sheriff's Office faces a difficult task. Can they identify this Jane Doe who suffered a
10:03violent death and find her killer who could still be preying on Daytona Beach
10:16On November the 5th, 1980,
10:21transport workers in Volusia County, Florida,
10:24locate the skeletal remains of an unidentifiable woman
10:27off Interstate 95.
10:29An autopsy reveals she had been stabbed to death
10:32before being discarded by the side of the road.
10:35Investigators hope that by uncovering the name of this Jane Doe,
10:39they can also catch her killer.
10:43A Jane or John Doe will not be released from this.
10:46Office until we know who they are.
10:49So they'll stay here with us.
10:51We have the space to do it.
10:53We're very grateful for that fact.
10:55Some places don't, but they'll remain here
10:57until they've been identified.
10:59Since no one has been reported missing
11:00and the body has been there a significant period of time,
11:03immediately you go to the transient body
11:04of individuals in the area.
11:06And you kind of have to understand the origins
11:08of why somebody would be of that transient group,
11:10so to speak.
11:11There's two types of people that are going to come to an area
11:13like Daytona Beach, Greater Daytona Beach Area.
11:15They're people who are successful where they are,
11:17and they're coming here for opportunity
11:20and apply their trade, whatever it happens to be.
11:23Those people usually have a lot of connections,
11:25family, friends, ties to communities.
11:27So they do not fall victim as easily.
11:30Then you've got the other group
11:31that are people looking for a fresh start.
11:32For whatever reason,
11:33they've had a bad run of it where they are.
11:35Sometimes it's their own fault.
11:36Sometimes it's not.
11:37They're products of their environments.
11:38You know, they've been victimized in one way or another.
11:40Children who were abused,
11:41they grow up and they have troubled pasts and whatever,
11:43and they want to start fresh.
11:44When you leave an area,
11:45because say, for instance,
11:46you've taken individuals that have problems at home,
11:49maybe they have some minor brushes with the law,
11:50they're not getting along with family,
11:52and when they leave,
11:54sometimes where the family's concerned,
11:56it's a harsh reality,
11:57but it's good riddance.
11:58We're not interested, you know,
11:59we don't want to have any more contact with you.
12:01We're washing our hands of you.
12:02And these people would come here,
12:04and they really don't have anybody checking on them.
12:06So when you take an individual
12:08who preys on people like that,
12:10they're aware of that.
12:11That's something they go in knowing,
12:13that if they're able to find somebody like that,
12:15prey on that person,
12:16they know that the chances of getting caught are very slim
12:18because who's going to report them missing?
12:21And in the case of sex workers,
12:22people involved in that trade,
12:24whether it be prostitution
12:25or just somebody who's engaging
12:28in a legal employment endeavor,
12:29which would be the girls working
12:31in some of the gentlemen's clubs,
12:32strip clubs, if you will, you know.
12:34But again, these people don't usually
12:35statistically have strong family ties.
12:38So an individual who's preying on people
12:39is going to prey on people like that
12:41because they know that there's not going to be
12:43a follow-up behind them.
12:44In most of our cold cases,
12:46people never reported them missing.
12:48They just assumed they felt victim
12:49to some sort of unfortunate act,
12:51but most likely they didn't care.
12:54In most cases, they just weren't concerned.
12:57The investigators started talking to prostitutes,
13:00bartenders up and down the strip on the main street,
13:02people in places who would have knowledge
13:05of individuals who maybe they had saw frequently for a while
13:08and then hadn't seen in quite a while,
13:09or maybe had heard a rumor about who had disappeared
13:12when we had an argument with this person,
13:13arguing with that person,
13:14and then I never saw them again.
13:15So there was a number of investigative leads
13:17that were followed up on in that regard,
13:19but they all proved fruitless at that point.
13:22The case starts turning cold,
13:25so investigators switch their angle,
13:27looking into a potential suspect
13:28with a history of violence against women
13:30who had been arrested seven months prior
13:32to the discovery of Jane Doe,
13:3428-year-old New Yorker Gerald Stano.
13:37Stano was arrested for a brutal assault
13:42on another woman in a Daytona Beach hotel.
13:44She was a sex worker.
13:46He'd picked her up, and she knew him.
13:48She was familiar with him, had seen him around.
13:49He had picked her up.
13:50They'd gone to the hotel.
13:52There was some argument over product for price.
13:57And it ended in violence,
13:59and he had stabbed her over 30 times.
14:01Miraculously, she was able to escape the hotel room
14:06bleeding profusely,
14:08but because she knew his identity,
14:10she was able to provide law enforcement with that,
14:12and the Daytona Beach Police Department
14:14picked him up not long after that.
14:16Just a beast.
14:18I mean, you know, to hurt any person, really,
14:22but a young person like that,
14:24there's no reason for that, no matter what.
14:28So for someone to do that,
14:30they have to be a pretty terrible person.
14:33He's picked up in the first part of April.
14:35It wasn't until November
14:37when the deceased body was discovered.
14:41And again, we didn't know her name.
14:42She was Jane Doe, 1980.
14:44So he's in jail for seven, eight months
14:47before that happened.
14:49In that period of time,
14:50they had linked him to a number of murders.
14:54We had a lot of victims.
14:55I just remember seeing snippets of it
14:57on the news here and there
14:58as I grew in the area.
15:00I know he had a lot of victims
15:01all throughout the state.
15:04He had the aggravated battery
15:05on the individual where he had been arrested,
15:08but he had been linked to a number of others.
15:10And they had a lot of evidence at the time,
15:12which is still the case.
15:13Florida had the death penalty,
15:14and he was being told
15:16that they were going to file charges
15:18and they were going to seek the death penalty
15:19and those charges for the other murders.
15:22With a potential death penalty looming,
15:25investigators working on the Jane Doe case
15:27pay him a visit, hoping he'll cooperate.
15:29So there was a motivation for him
15:32to come forward with anything.
15:34And what they basically said to him was,
15:35look, we've got a lot of bodies
15:36because by the time he was arrested,
15:39they had bodies in similar circumstances
15:41in Holly Hill,
15:44two in Port Orange,
15:45two in Daytona,
15:46New Smyrna Beach.
15:48There was a number in, say,
15:49a four or five-year period
15:50of unidentified human remains bodies,
15:53all girls,
15:53all between the ages of 25 and 35 years of age.
15:56He was a serial killer
15:58that functioned in this area,
16:00and he was responsible
16:01for the death of over 40 individuals.
16:04He had a typical MO of stabbing
16:06as well as strangulation.
16:08I know that he went after young women,
16:10blonde, brown hair,
16:11that kind of fit that demographic.
16:12He did a lot of bad things in this area.
16:16So they proposed to him,
16:18we've got a mountain of evidence against you,
16:21and if you're willing to close
16:22a couple of these cases for us,
16:23we won't seek the death penalty.
16:25He went along with that.
16:27The problem in the Jane Doe 1980 case was
16:29by the time they talked to him
16:31about cooperating,
16:32he'd already been incarcerated,
16:34and, of course, if you go to any jail,
16:35they've got TVs on the walls,
16:36and the guys watch all-day-long TV.
16:38There's nothing else to do.
16:40And back in that time frame,
16:42back in 1980,
16:43the only thing that came on
16:44at 5 o'clock at night
16:45was your local news,
16:47and at 6, it was the national news,
16:48and at 7, it was a rehash of the local,
16:50and that was it.
16:50So if they're going to be sitting there
16:52and they're going to watch the local news,
16:54they're going to see what's going on
16:55in the community.
16:55And the sheriff's office at that time
16:57had put out many news media releases
17:00and everything else about the fact
17:01that this girl was where she was found,
17:03she was unidentified,
17:04what she was wearing,
17:05specifically even naming the T-shirt
17:07and the slogan,
17:08Do It in the Dirt.
17:09That was a slogan for
17:11Botaco Motorcycles.
17:12They were a dirt bike
17:13made in Mexico at the time.
17:14So it was very specific,
17:16this media release.
17:17So unfortunately,
17:18it was likely he saw that
17:19sitting in the day room.
17:21So when he comes forward
17:21with this information
17:22while he's incarcerated,
17:24and they're talking to him
17:24about solving crimes,
17:25and he says,
17:26Oh, yeah, by the way,
17:26I did that crime as well.
17:28And they took him down to the scene
17:30where it was,
17:31and he said,
17:32Yeah, that's where I put it,
17:32right there.
17:33And he made a lot of admissions,
17:34but again,
17:35all of the information
17:36that provided to him.
17:38So was he acting on his own behalf?
17:41Did he actually kill her?
17:42The glaring problem with that
17:44was he said that he strangled her.
17:45That was the only thing
17:46they did not release to the news
17:48in the media report
17:49how she died
17:49or the results of the autopsy.
17:52So he said,
17:53No, I strangled her.
17:54But if you go back
17:55and look at Stanow's history,
17:57those were the two methods
17:58that he used.
17:59He either strangled,
18:00stabbed, or both.
18:01So having said that,
18:03it wasn't entirely a zero
18:06as far as chalking it up
18:07to him or not.
18:08But it was definitely
18:09a question you had
18:10to ask yourself
18:11because history is right
18:12with court cases
18:13where individuals
18:13confessed to crimes
18:14were motivated by a reason
18:16other than the fact
18:17that they did it.
18:18And what we don't want to do
18:19is hang another crime on him,
18:21not because we don't want
18:21to hang a crime on him,
18:22believe me,
18:23he deserved everything he got,
18:24but because if he's not the one,
18:27there's somebody out there
18:28who is the one.
18:29And that's what needs
18:30to be addressed.
18:31In this instance,
18:32it was questionable.
18:33Did he do it?
18:34Did he not do it?
18:34It's hard to tell.
18:36In the investigation,
18:37he did say
18:38that he picked her up
18:38at a bar on Main Street
18:39and it was a pirate-themed bar.
18:41And he mentioned
18:41where the bar was.
18:42The bar's no longer there,
18:43but he mentioned
18:44where it was.
18:47He didn't provide
18:47any information
18:48other than what
18:49we already knew,
18:49what she was wearing
18:50and where he dumped her.
18:52Not knowing her identity,
18:54that was of no use.
18:55Detectives did go down there
18:56and talk to bartenders
18:57in that area,
18:58but they didn't have
18:58any pictures to show.
19:00There was nothing
19:00they could show them
19:01to say,
19:01do you remember
19:02seeing this girl?
19:03They simply asked questions,
19:04very broad questions,
19:05like,
19:05is there anybody
19:06that you maybe
19:06haven't seen lately
19:07that was hanging around
19:08for a bit,
19:09but hasn't been lately
19:10that fits this general description?
19:11Well, look,
19:12it's Daytona Beach.
19:13Half the girls here
19:14fit that description.
19:14There was nothing
19:15that pointed them
19:16in any one particular direction.
19:20Gerald Stano claims
19:22he murdered Jane Doe,
19:23but police are unable
19:24to decipher
19:25whether he is telling the truth.
19:27A more important question remains.
19:29Who is this unidentified young woman,
19:31and does she have loved ones
19:32searching for her?
19:35The case may have gone cold,
19:37but advancements in DNA science
19:39break this case wide open
19:40decades later.
19:41It's been nearly 40 years
19:55since the remains
19:56of an unidentified homicide victim
19:58were discovered
19:59dumped along the I-95
20:00in Volusia County, Florida
20:02in November 1980.
20:04Investigators believe
20:05she was a victim
20:06of the serial killer
20:07Gerald Stano,
20:08who confessed to the crime
20:09along with numerous others,
20:11but could have done so
20:12in a bid to avoid
20:13the death penalty.
20:14All efforts to ID
20:15the Jane Doe
20:16have failed so far,
20:17but advancements
20:18in DNA science
20:19offer new hope
20:20in solving the mystery.
20:23CODIS came into the picture.
20:24All of these different
20:25DNA databases
20:26came into the picture
20:27to try and compare
20:28DNA and family members
20:30and stuff like that.
20:31And that was when
20:32things really started
20:33to change.
20:34They were able
20:35to use this new technology
20:37to apply it
20:38to the old cases.
20:39And that's really
20:40what it was.
20:41Technology evolved.
20:42CODIS is the combined
20:44DNA index system.
20:45It has three levels.
20:46It has a local,
20:48state, and national level.
20:49There are several
20:50different things
20:51that can qualify
20:51an individual
20:52to be uploaded
20:53into CODIS.
20:54All missing persons
20:55are likely uploaded
20:56if they have a DNA profile
20:57that can be found.
20:58Family members,
20:59that kind of thing
21:00will contribute to them.
21:01Unidentified human remains
21:02cases are UHR cases.
21:04When DNA is extracted,
21:05it's uploaded
21:06into CODIS also.
21:07And then certain crimes
21:08qualify that individual
21:10to be uploaded
21:10into that as well.
21:12Once an individual
21:13has been uploaded
21:14into there,
21:15their DNA is there
21:15for any new submissions
21:17to be compared to.
21:18She did have DNA
21:19that was extracted
21:20and uploaded
21:21into CODIS.
21:22Didn't have any hits,
21:23unfortunately.
21:23So then it was really,
21:25well, what's your next step?
21:28The case goes cold
21:29yet again.
21:30Then, detectives hear
21:31of a pioneering
21:32forensic technique
21:33that is solving
21:34the coldest
21:35of cold cases
21:36across the country,
21:37forensic investigative
21:39genetic genealogy.
21:40Could this identify
21:42the 1980 Jane Doe?
21:44Genealogy for Justice
21:46is a non-profit.
21:47We help law enforcement
21:48agencies with the funding
21:50of their DNA testing
21:51for unidentified remains
21:52as well as homicide cases
21:54and sexual assaults.
21:59Genetic genealogy
22:00is the combination
22:01of genealogy,
22:02which is the study
22:03of our history
22:04and all of the records
22:05that our ancestors
22:06have left behind,
22:08combined with using
22:10DNA relatedness
22:11to fill in the gaps
22:14in those trees.
22:19So the DNA
22:20is a very good tool
22:22to extend
22:23what paper tells us
22:24and to prove
22:25what paper tells us.
22:27And that's essentially
22:28what it is.
22:28When it's used forensically,
22:30it's looking for
22:31a unique genealogical event
22:33that tells you
22:33who someone is
22:34by the culmination
22:35of different networks
22:36in their matches.
22:38We're doing it
22:39because we feel called
22:40to do it.
22:40We feel called
22:41to help people.
22:42And it's extremely gratifying
22:44to know something
22:45that nobody else
22:46in the world knows,
22:47and that's who they need
22:48to go knock on the door
22:49and get a sample from,
22:50you know,
22:50or who they need
22:51to send a SWAT team
22:52to arrest.
22:53That's pretty exciting.
22:54We reached out
22:57to Volusia County
22:58and spoke with them
23:00to see whether
23:01there were any cases
23:02that would benefit
23:03from the testing.
23:06And one of these cases
23:07was Jane Doe 1980.
23:09It was a full,
23:10skeletonized remains
23:11that were found intact.
23:13And when I say
23:13skeletonized,
23:14it was approximately
23:1560% of the body
23:16was skeletonized,
23:1730 to 35%
23:18was mummified.
23:19There was dried tissue,
23:21shoulders, back,
23:21and back of the legs.
23:23So where the remains
23:24were found,
23:25the back was lying down
23:26in contact with the ground,
23:27and that was basically
23:28what was preserved.
23:29But the skeleton
23:30was intact,
23:30and that's where the DNA
23:31is going to be harvested from.
23:32It's going to be harvested
23:33from what would have been
23:34the marrow in that area.
23:36And it was intact,
23:37so this was a good
23:38candidate for us.
23:40Her remains
23:40never left the office,
23:41so she's always been
23:43here for us
23:43to have access to
23:44when we needed.
23:45We just knew
23:46she was a Jane Doe
23:47and needed her name back.
23:50The first step
23:51in the process
23:51is to collect
23:52a viable DNA sample
23:53from her remains.
23:56We started out
23:57with teeth,
23:58and typically teeth
23:59are very protected
24:00in the jaw,
24:01and so they've got
24:02a rich source of DNA
24:03inside the tooth.
24:05And in this case,
24:06I don't know
24:07what they were doing
24:08in the 70s and 80s,
24:09but we looked
24:10at the autopsy later
24:11and saw that they
24:12had pulled her teeth
24:13out of her jaw,
24:14sent them to somebody
24:15for x-ray,
24:16then glued them
24:17back in her jaw.
24:18And so, you know,
24:19I don't know whose DNA
24:19we would have gotten,
24:20but anyway,
24:22it didn't work,
24:22but we weren't going
24:24to take no for an answer,
24:25so we then decided
24:26to harvest a petrous bone,
24:28which is the bone
24:29in the base of the skull.
24:31And those are obviously
24:32good, you know,
24:33as a backup to teeth.
24:35They got a really
24:36good sample for us,
24:37and it worked
24:38like a charm.
24:39We got this sample
24:40back within about
24:41six weeks,
24:42and it's like Christmas.
24:43That's like the most
24:45exciting day
24:46in the life of a case
24:47is when you get
24:48the DNA profile back
24:49from the lab
24:50because all we have
24:51to do is hit upload,
24:52and all of a sudden,
24:53we know who this person
24:54is related to.
24:55It's amazing.
24:56It is like Christmas.
24:57So that happened.
24:59I immediately saw
25:00that we had amazing matches.
25:03She had a first cousin match.
25:05One thing I noticed
25:06about her matches
25:07was that she had
25:08a hundred percent
25:09exclusive Indiana matches.
25:12Nobody that wasn't
25:13in Indiana.
25:14And I thought,
25:15how is she,
25:16why do I have
25:17somebody in Florida?
25:18And then I'm going
25:19through this one
25:19particular family
25:20that was related
25:21to this first cousin match,
25:22and I saw Daytona Beach
25:24divorce for her parents.
25:26I was like,
25:27okay, that's her.
25:29That's got to be the family.
25:31This couple that had been
25:33from Indiana,
25:34but they lived briefly
25:35in Daytona Beach, Florida,
25:37and then went back
25:38to Indiana.
25:38And I was like,
25:39well, if I were going
25:40to move somewhere,
25:41I would go where
25:42I had been as a child.
25:43I believe Pamela Whitman
25:45to be the identity
25:46for that 1980s Jane Doe.
25:49Investigators now
25:50need to confirm this
25:51through a DNA comparison
25:52with a relative of Pamela.
25:55So immediately,
25:56I told Detective Weaver.
25:58Once I let him know
25:59who I think it is,
26:00I write my report,
26:01and I told them about Pam
26:03and explained who she was.
26:05And she believes
26:06this is a girl from Indiana,
26:07and her half-sister
26:08is still alive
26:09and lives up there.
26:10And that just blew me away.
26:11I'm like, oh my God,
26:12how the hell did you do that?
26:14It was phenomenal.
26:15So I sent him the name
26:16of the siblings
26:17that were alive,
26:18and I had found
26:19Danita on Facebook.
26:20And, you know,
26:20Facebook is really
26:21a genetic genealogist friend.
26:23It's amazing how much
26:24we use Facebook for it.
26:25You wouldn't believe.
26:26So finding Danita
26:28on Facebook helped.
26:30He then made the notification
26:32and reached out to her.
26:35We got ahold of Danita.
26:36She was all about it.
26:37Her family and she
26:39had had this nagging question
26:40for years
26:41on what happened
26:42to their sister
26:43because they hadn't heard
26:44from her.
26:44They didn't know.
26:45It's like an exciting
26:47and delicate process.
26:48These people have had
26:49question marks
26:50and have been looking
26:51and praying for answers
26:53for a long time.
26:54And so to be able
26:54to start to give them
26:57some of the answers
26:58has been a blessing.
27:01My phone's blowing up
27:02and my son was calling me
27:03and I noticed
27:04that my son-in-law
27:04had called me
27:05and my daughter
27:05had called me
27:06and everybody was texting me.
27:08They're like,
27:08you really need to talk
27:09to this guy.
27:09It's a detective.
27:10He's from Florida.
27:11They think they found Pam.
27:16And I just remember
27:17like being excited at first
27:19just because it was just like,
27:21oh, they found her.
27:22And it's like I knew
27:23what the end result was
27:24because she would have
27:25been back around.
27:26We would have seen her again
27:27if she would have been alive.
27:29But that long wait
27:30was finally over.
27:31But then I went to work
27:34that night
27:34and then that's when reality
27:36kind of started to set in
27:37a little bit
27:38and then realized,
27:39you know,
27:39that I'll never have
27:40that chance with her.
27:43She's gone.
27:45Detective Weaver asked her
27:46if she would be willing
27:47to provide a sample
27:48for comparison
27:49and then her local
27:50law enforcement agency
27:51aided us in the collection
27:52of that sample
27:53as well as the submission.
27:56Donita's sample
27:57is a match
27:57to the Jane Doe
27:58whose remains
27:59were discovered
28:00along the I-95
28:01back in 1980.
28:02It is believed
28:03she was murdered
28:04sometime between 1979
28:06and 1980
28:07when she was just
28:0825 years of age.
28:12Once you know
28:13who that individual is,
28:14you can work backwards
28:15from there,
28:15figure out where
28:16they were last seen
28:17and things like that.
28:18Pam was the oldest
28:19from my mom's
28:21first marriage.
28:22We lived on a little,
28:24it was just a little
28:25tiny farmhouse.
28:26We had our own cattle,
28:27our own garden,
28:28basically grew
28:29our own food.
28:31My sister Pam,
28:32she was in and out
28:33a lot.
28:35I do have, like,
28:36vague memories
28:36when I was, like,
28:37younger, younger,
28:38going and visiting her
28:39at, like, foster care
28:40and things like that,
28:41but I never really
28:42understood the backstory
28:44to all of that.
28:46It was almost as if
28:47my mom kind of
28:48had a vendetta
28:49against her,
28:50but my mom was also
28:52the type of person,
28:53if you didn't walk
28:53the walk and talk
28:55the talk,
28:55she was a very
28:56devout Christian,
28:57but she was
28:58a little extreme
28:59with it.
29:00So if you did things
29:02that she didn't like,
29:03you were disowned,
29:03disbarred, basically,
29:04from the family.
29:05Anytime Pam was around,
29:06there was a lot of
29:07arguing between
29:08she and my mom.
29:11She'd had a bit
29:11of a narcotics problem
29:12when she was growing up.
29:14It's not unheard of.
29:15A lot of the family
29:16had pushed her
29:17out of the way,
29:18pushed her to the side.
29:20Nobody wanted
29:20anything to do with her.
29:21Everybody was listening
29:22to my mom's side
29:24of the story.
29:25I was the only one
29:26that would flock to her
29:26because I, too,
29:28was craving attention.
29:29So it was kind of like
29:30we fed each other
29:31what we both needed,
29:32and that was just
29:32the love and attention
29:33of a sister.
29:34When my mom was passing,
29:36she passed away
29:37of cancer in 2014,
29:39and my daughter,
29:40my youngest daughter
29:41at the time was 18,
29:42and my mom kept
29:42calling her Pam.
29:43They look identical,
29:46my daughter Tia and Pam.
29:47She was gorgeous.
29:48She was beautiful.
29:52Flawless.
29:52Her hair was always,
29:53you know, done.
29:54I remember any time
29:55that I saw her,
29:56her hair always
29:56looked really cute,
29:57and she was the older sister.
29:59She was like a rock star to me.
30:01She was the type of person,
30:02it was a hot summer day,
30:03and she noticed
30:04that a girl didn't have shoes,
30:06and she gave her her shoes
30:07and then walked around
30:08on the hot pavement
30:09and got blisters on her feet,
30:10but she never complained
30:11about it because
30:12that little girl
30:13needed her shoes,
30:14and that was just
30:15the type of person
30:16that she was.
30:17Loved to sing.
30:18She was happy-go-lucky.
30:19I mean, she liked to cook
30:21and clean and, you know,
30:22do all the things
30:23that she should have
30:24been able to have
30:25the chance to do,
30:26but it's like nobody
30:27ever really gave her
30:28a chance or taught her
30:29how to survive, basically.
30:31She was always shunned
30:34for the way she was.
30:37I remember the last time
30:39I saw her,
30:40at the time I was like
30:41seven, eight years old
30:43around then.
30:44That year we had
30:45a local parade
30:45and that was in Martinsville
30:47and it was called
30:47the Fall Foliage Festival
30:48and that was in 1978.
30:51And we were getting ready
30:52to go to the Fall Foliage Festival
30:53and Pam had stopped by
30:55for a visit.
30:56And I just remember
30:56she was being
30:57just extra playful.
30:59She had me on her lap.
31:00We were doing patty cake.
31:01I could tell she had
31:01been crying,
31:02but that wasn't uncommon
31:03because there was always
31:04a lot of accusations
31:05from my mom.
31:06And then I remember
31:07my mom coming
31:08through the living room
31:09and she says to Pam,
31:12you better be gone
31:13by the time we get back.
31:14We don't want you here.
31:15And I just remember
31:16wrapping my arms
31:17around her neck
31:18because for some reason
31:19at seven years old
31:20I knew that was
31:20the last time
31:21I was going to see her
31:21and it scared me
31:22to hear my mom say that
31:23and we never saw her again.
31:26She came to Florida
31:27and I think she liked
31:28the beach and the sun
31:29and she loved to be outside.
31:31And outdoors
31:32and just be in nature.
31:34She was running
31:35with a somewhat risky
31:36pack lifestyle,
31:38if you will,
31:38you know,
31:38bikers and dabbling
31:39in narcotics
31:40here and there.
31:42I feel like Pam
31:42felt like she was alone.
31:44Even though she had
31:45a big group of friends,
31:46I felt like
31:47she probably still felt
31:48like a void
31:49because she just
31:50wanted family.
31:52She was just trying
31:53to survive
31:53and she just didn't
31:55know how.
31:56Honestly,
31:56that's my take on it
31:57because I know
31:58that was the way
31:58I was headed
31:59down that road too.
32:00And, you know,
32:01everybody talks about
32:01high school sweethearts
32:02and how awful that is
32:04but that saved me.
32:07He's been my hero.
32:08But she got into
32:09some stuff
32:10and I just feel like
32:12she wasn't given
32:13much of an option
32:14than to choose
32:14the path that she was on
32:15but she was a good-hearted
32:16person that just
32:17wanted a chance.
32:19I know that
32:20if she had been
32:20given a choice,
32:21I don't think she woke up
32:22and said,
32:22this is the life
32:23that I want,
32:24I think she would
32:24have made better.
32:26I know for a fact
32:26she would have.
32:29It was November of 1980
32:30when they found her.
32:33The identity
32:34of Jane Doe 1980
32:35is solved
32:36but the work
32:37of investigators
32:37is not yet complete.
32:40Can they prove
32:41that Pamela was killed
32:42by the infamous
32:42serial killer Stano
32:44and give Pamela's
32:45family closure
32:46as to what exactly
32:47happened to her?
32:52After more than 40 years
33:01since the discovery
33:02of her remains,
33:03investigators from
33:04Volusia County Sheriff's Office
33:05and FHD Forensics
33:07have utilized
33:08investigative genetic genealogy
33:10to finally identify
33:11Pamela K. Whitman
33:13whose skeletal remains
33:14were discovered
33:15along the I-95
33:16near Port Orange, Florida
33:17back in 1980.
33:20Detectives are looking
33:21into whether
33:21serial killer
33:22Gerald Stano
33:23murdered her
33:23or if he lied
33:25in an attempt
33:25to avoid
33:26the death penalty.
33:28He was a serial killer
33:29that went after
33:30young women
33:30and he did a lot
33:31of bad things
33:32in this area.
33:33Stano was a very
33:34troubled character
33:34from the start.
33:35He was born
33:36in Schenectady,
33:36New York
33:36in 1951.
33:38His mom,
33:39she had five kids,
33:40she gave them all
33:40up for adoption.
33:41He was the third one
33:42that she gave up
33:43for adoption
33:43when he was
33:44six and a half,
33:45almost seven months old.
33:46Doctors at that point
33:47ruled him unadoptable
33:49until they got him
33:50into a foster home
33:51of some sort
33:52because even at that age
33:53he couldn't function
33:55and do some of the things
33:55normal kids do.
33:56He'd been just left
33:57laying in a crib,
33:58he was eating his own feces,
34:00he was malnourished
34:01and he was very animalistic
34:03is what the term
34:03that they used for him.
34:04He did go to a loving family,
34:06they tried to raise him right,
34:08but a very rebellious
34:09and troubled youth.
34:10Doctors, psychologists,
34:12will say that a person's psyche
34:13is formed in the first few years
34:14of their life.
34:15I don't know if that's true or not,
34:16but it would seem to fit
34:17with this individual
34:18because he was troubled.
34:19Didn't get along in school,
34:21terrible grades
34:21and everything but music,
34:23which is not odd
34:24because if you look at
34:26some of the troubled individuals
34:27that we read about,
34:28psychopaths and whatnot,
34:29they always seem to excel
34:30in either art or music.
34:32He didn't graduate
34:33until he was 21 from high school,
34:35so obviously he had
34:35some issues in school.
34:37Had a hard time holding jobs,
34:38was usually fired for
34:39hardiness and theft,
34:41petty thefts,
34:42thefts from fellow employees,
34:43things like that,
34:44steal items off their desk
34:45or out of their drawers
34:46and stuff like that,
34:47so he was let go repeatedly.
34:48He moved to Ormond Beach
34:49with his parents,
34:51early 70s,
34:51so at that point he's probably
34:53somewhere in the late 20s
34:54or early 30s.
34:55He had gotten
34:56what would have been nowadays
34:57enough to put him away for life.
34:59He had sexually abused
35:00a mentally handicapped female.
35:02I don't know
35:03the circumstances behind that.
35:04I only know that
35:05it was in one of the court reports
35:06that he had impregnated her
35:08and the parents paid
35:09for the abortion
35:10and nothing judicially
35:11was done on that.
35:13For a psychopath like that,
35:15what they're going to do
35:16is they're going to get up
35:16in the morning,
35:17they're going to be cordial
35:18with the people
35:19they are close with.
35:20In this case,
35:21it was his parents.
35:22And then he's going to go out
35:24and he's going to do his thing.
35:25His mom or dad waves goodbye
35:26as he goes out the door
35:26and they think that
35:27Gerald isn't involved
35:28in anything nefarious,
35:29but little do they know,
35:30he's going out.
35:31Basically just roaming the countryside
35:34looking for women of opportunity.
35:37He was a horrible person,
35:42you know,
35:42a human being.
35:43He just was a killer.
35:49In many instances,
35:50we find out that these people
35:52have stalked an individual
35:53on multiple occasions,
35:54over weeks sometimes
35:55of periods,
35:56to find out their comings
35:57and goings,
35:58who might be around,
35:59who might not be around
36:00when they do this
36:00because they obviously
36:01don't want to get caught.
36:02They want to be able
36:02to capitalize on the anonymity
36:04that's created
36:04by the situation.
36:06And then when they feel it's right,
36:07and then they strike.
36:11Detectives speak to
36:12Pamela's sister, Donita,
36:13to get as much information
36:14as possible
36:15about the events
36:16that led up to Pamela's murder
36:18to see if they can link her
36:19to Stano.
36:23Donita says that
36:24she had a sister
36:25that lived on the west coast
36:27of Florida
36:29and was here for years,
36:31passed away a few years ago,
36:32though, unfortunately,
36:33or had been a great person
36:34to talk to.
36:34And she said
36:35that she had been
36:36in contact with Pam
36:38while Pam was in Florida.
36:40It wasn't an everyday thing,
36:41but it was relatively frequently,
36:43maybe two or three times a month.
36:44She said,
36:45the sister that lived
36:46on the west coast,
36:48saying that Pam
36:50was working in a biker bar,
36:52was, when required,
36:54when necessary,
36:55prostituting herself,
36:56and working at a strip joint
36:58when she could,
36:59when she could get hired there.
37:00This was information
37:01that we didn't have previously.
37:03So when we talked to Donita,
37:04and she tells us about this
37:05and tells us that
37:06the sister told her,
37:07yeah, it was on Main Street,
37:08pirate-themed bar.
37:09She was doing this
37:10and doing that
37:10when she needed to
37:11to make ends meet.
37:12This fit the criteria
37:13of Stano to A.T.
37:16During his confession,
37:21he said,
37:21I saw her in a bar.
37:23He didn't say she was waitressing.
37:25He made mention of the fact
37:26that she was just kind of
37:27hanging around in there,
37:28and then alluded to the fact
37:29that she was in there
37:29looking to make some money.
37:34Again,
37:35initially,
37:35for what he said,
37:36because we didn't have an identity
37:37and we didn't have this backstory,
37:39we hadn't been told
37:40about the sister
37:41who knew she was hanging out
37:42in a bar in Main Street.
37:43And it identically backs up
37:44the backstory given by Stano.
37:49So he's out front.
37:50He sees her at one point,
37:51waves at her.
37:54He said,
37:55I asked her if she was working,
37:56and she said yes.
37:57She hops in the car
37:58and away they go.
37:59I think it probably went sour
38:00from the minute
38:01they got in the car.
38:05He had a lot of rage,
38:07and with sex workers
38:08being such a vulnerable population,
38:10he saw that
38:11and used them
38:14to take his rage out.
38:18And in Stano's case,
38:20he was very,
38:20very consistent
38:22with almost every woman
38:24that he murdered.
38:25He would get in an argument
38:26about money.
38:27He had no respect for them,
38:29the women that he murdered.
38:30And so for him,
38:31I think,
38:32and him,
38:32this justified his actions to him.
38:34For him,
38:35it was like,
38:35well,
38:35this is what they deserve.
38:36I mean,
38:36can you imagine arguing with me
38:38about what you want to charge me
38:39for a sex act?
38:41And so for him,
38:41this was just where he came from.
38:43No remorse.
38:46Gerald Stano
38:47didn't have a regard
38:49for anybody,
38:50maybe other than himself.
38:51So after his experience
38:53with Pamela
38:54and taking her life,
38:56he tossed her
38:57off the side of the highway
38:58like trash.
38:59And where her body
39:08was found,
39:09highly doubt he killed her there
39:10only because
39:11if you pull off
39:11the interstate
39:12and you're sitting there
39:12with your lights
39:13either on or off,
39:14he's not going to stay there
39:15a long time
39:16because he doesn't want
39:16to get caught.
39:17He was smart.
39:18That's why he got away
39:18with it as often as he did.
39:19So he's probably
39:20going to pull off,
39:22pull the body
39:22into the bushes
39:23where it was
39:23and get right back
39:24out on the road.
39:26The only one fact
39:27we still have no answers.
39:29Who is?
39:29He says he strangled her.
39:31She was stabbed.
39:33But with the number
39:34of women
39:34that this guy murdered,
39:35could he have
39:36gotten them mixed up?
39:37They all looked
39:37relatively alike.
39:38They were all 25 to 35.
39:40They were all
39:41about 125 to 135 pounds,
39:43brown hair,
39:44brown eyes.
39:45He's linked to
39:46approximately
39:47the death of 90 females.
39:49There's approximately 40.
39:51There is strong evidence
39:53that he is believed
39:54to have committed
39:54and he was tried
39:55for a total of 23.
39:56He was a mass murderer
39:58on a grand scale.
40:01Given the information
40:03on Pamela's lifestyle
40:04from her sisters
40:05and Stano's confession,
40:07investigators conclude
40:08that Stano is
40:09most likely her killer
40:10and that he stabbed her
40:11to death before dumping
40:12her body around
40:13February of 1980.
40:17I know he had
40:18a lot of victims
40:18all throughout the state,
40:20so, um,
40:21and he's already
40:21been executed,
40:23so I'm glad for that.
40:24He had one death sentence
40:27and, uh,
40:28eight, like,
40:29consecutive life sentences.
40:30He got what he,
40:31he deserved
40:32in the death sentence.
40:33I think his actions
40:34and his,
40:35his decisions
40:36put him
40:37in the place
40:38that he needed to be.
40:40Gerald Stano
40:41was executed
40:42by electrocution
40:43in 1998.
40:44Thanks to the relentless
40:46efforts of the Volusia County
40:48Sheriff's Office,
40:49FHD Forensics,
40:50and the power
40:51of investigative
40:52genetic genealogy,
40:54Pamela K. Whitman
40:55has her identity back,
40:56and this case
40:57is now closed.
41:00This particular one
41:01hit really close to home
41:02because it was
41:03right here
41:04in our county,
41:06very close,
41:07really,
41:07to where we're all from,
41:09and I still live today
41:10very close to that area
41:11where she was found.
41:13When I saw the exit number
41:14and everything
41:14where she was found,
41:1595, I'm like,
41:16wow, that was really close.
41:18She went disappearing.
41:19It's a
41:20pretty hard experience,
41:22you know,
41:22for the whole family.
41:24When something like that happens,
41:26a person goes missing,
41:28and then
41:28the family's left wondering,
41:31like,
41:31where did they go?
41:32What happened?
41:33Like, there's no closure to it.
41:35It feels good in your heart,
41:36you know,
41:36to help them
41:37and
41:38be able to give that,
41:40that family some closure.
41:41So that's the main reason
41:43for doing it.
41:44This case will stick with me
41:45for a number of reasons.
41:47One,
41:47Donita is so sweet,
41:48and it was just a privilege
41:49to get to meet her
41:50and work with her
41:51on this case.
41:52This is also one of the
41:53first cases
41:54that we used
41:55forensic genetic genealogy
41:57for here at the office.
41:58It's not the very first,
41:59but it's one of the,
42:00it's the first one
42:01that I used personally.
42:02And just the circumstances
42:03of her case, too.
42:04It's the first serial killer case
42:06that I was a part of,
42:07and so
42:07there are several reasons
42:09that it will stick with me.
42:10With Donita's case,
42:11I think
42:12the biggest thing
42:13for her
42:14was that her sister
42:15be remembered and honored,
42:17that she wasn't trash
42:18like Gerald Stano
42:20had treated her
42:21as such.
42:22Pamela was a sweet,
42:23sweet girl
42:24and a great sister,
42:25and I think
42:26Donita wanted to be able
42:28to honor her
42:28in that way,
42:29and so we were able
42:30to help
42:30and provide funds
42:32for a memorial marker
42:33for her sister
42:34so she could be remembered
42:36in the way
42:36that she deserved.
42:37My sister helped
42:40design the memorial.
42:42It's really hard
42:43to explain.
42:44It was, like I said,
42:45everything is kind
42:46of surreal, too,
42:46because when we laid
42:47my brother's memorial,
42:49it brought, like,
42:50some kind of closure
42:51to the whole issue,
42:53somewhat,
42:54that we finally knew,
42:55like, what happened
42:56and kind of where he's at.
42:58If we can do that
42:58for each family,
42:59that would be really cool.
43:00Each time, like,
43:03we laid a memorial,
43:04it's like another
43:04healing process,
43:05you know what I mean,
43:06for the family
43:07and for, hopefully,
43:09the victim.
43:11And so having
43:12that tangible,
43:14you know,
43:14honorable thing for Pam,
43:16because this is someone
43:17that was forgotten.
43:18She was forgotten
43:19by her family,
43:20just, you know,
43:21abused by a horrible monster,
43:23and, but now the world's
43:25going to remember her,
43:26and so I know
43:28it was a big deal
43:28for Donita.
43:29It's now got
43:31a place of honor,
43:32and the thing
43:33that made me know
43:34it was the right thing
43:35to do was that
43:36when we told Donita
43:38that it had been done
43:39and we shot a picture,
43:41you know,
43:41Bill texted me
43:42a picture of it
43:43in situ,
43:43you know,
43:44in its place,
43:45I sent that photograph
43:46to Donita,
43:47and she said,
43:48I just felt a weight lift.
43:50She said,
43:51I just,
43:51I think everything's
43:52going to be okay.
43:53It's almost like
43:54the weight
43:54that had been
43:56hovering over me
43:57for the past 43 years
43:59I could feel it
44:00lift off of me.
44:01I came to Florida
44:02to get her remains.
44:04I didn't know
44:04if I was going to
44:05scatter her ashes
44:05at first,
44:07but I have a friend
44:08of mine,
44:09she told me,
44:09she's like,
44:10well,
44:10just ask your sister
44:11what she wants.
44:12Does she want
44:12her ashes scattered,
44:13or does she want
44:14to stay with you?
44:15And I was like,
44:16how do you do that?
44:19Like, you know,
44:19she just asked her,
44:20she just asked her,
44:21and she goes
44:21and tell her
44:22that if she's
44:23going to show you
44:24a sign that it
44:24has to be something
44:25that you will
44:25definitely know
44:26that is her.
44:27So I hung up
44:27the phone
44:28from that phone call,
44:29and then I said
44:30out loud,
44:30I kind of like
44:31turned around
44:31to the box,
44:32and I was like,
44:33okay,
44:33if you want
44:34to stay with me,
44:35show me a cardinal
44:36and make sure
44:37that I know
44:38that it's you.
44:38And I walked
44:40downstairs,
44:40and my kids,
44:41my grandkids
44:41were getting dressed
44:42up for Halloween,
44:43and they had made
44:43their costumes
44:44that year.
44:45My granddaughter,
44:46she had on
44:46these, like,
44:47black pants,
44:48red suspenders,
44:49and this red tie,
44:51and then she had
44:52this top hat on
44:52with a red bow,
44:53and she goes,
44:54pull my string,
44:55and I pull the string,
44:56and up pops a cardinal,
44:57and I was like,
44:58okay, so I guess
44:59you're staying.
45:00So I ended up
45:01going to a store
45:03that I usually shop
45:04at for, like,
45:04my herbs and stuff,
45:06but they had one urn
45:08in the back,
45:09and it had a big
45:10cardinal sitting
45:10on top of it,
45:11so now she's on
45:12my altar with
45:13the cardinal.
45:15I'm still working
45:16on a lot of healing,
45:17because right now
45:17I'm kind of in that
45:18stage of grieving
45:19where I'm just upset
45:21at the situation,
45:21and I'm trying
45:23to practice
45:23serenity in it,
45:24because I can't
45:25change what has
45:26already happened,
45:27but I really,
45:28really wish I had
45:29her here.
45:31You know,
45:31especially, like,
45:32in hard times in life,
45:33it would have been
45:34good to have
45:35somebody like
45:36a sister.
45:37The only thing
45:38I can think of
45:38that I would say
45:39is I love you.
45:44Unconditionally,
45:45I love you
45:45for who you are,
45:46because I know
45:49that's all she
45:49ever wanted to hear.
45:51and I love you
46:03too.
46:03I love you
46:04for the first time
46:05that's all she
46:07but she's
46:09not haramed
46:10in the game.
46:11She goes on
46:12voila.
46:15She goes on
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