00:00As for your information, the PCC actually imposed a huge fine of about 2.4 billion pesos last September 2024.
00:10But this refers to another group of companies, itong Onion Cartel.
00:15Yun nga lang, isang taon na, hindi pa rin nababayaran yung multa.
00:20So, for the record, Secretary Deason, pag you go that route, huwag namang umabot ng isang taon bago wala pang namumulta, for the record.
00:32Apo, maraming salamat po. Pipigitin po natin. Na-action po tayo agad dito.
00:36One question for I'm Black, Mr. Chair, within the office of Senator Estrada.
00:40Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
00:41Kay Sir Attorney David, Sir, well, nagpapasalamat po ako sa mabilis yung action
00:47dun sa request ng bagong DPWH Secretary na i-freeze yung accounts ng mga involved dito.
00:53Ang tanong ko po ay, may reports na po ba kayong nakuha dati na pwedeng may kinalaman sa suhulan?
01:00Kasi imposible naman pong di yan iwi-withdraw ng contractors o di-indip deposit na mga nilagyan.
01:07So, meron na po bang reports at pwede nyo po bang i-submit yung mga reports na yun sa komite?
01:12Mr. Chair, we confirm that we have already received several reports from the banks and financial institutions
01:21and other covered persons regarding transactions that probably are involved in corruption activities, Mr. Chair.
01:30And this became one of the bases for the filing of the—we can confirm that we filed a petition for freeze order
01:37with Court of Appeals, and the Court of Appeals issued that freeze order recently.
01:43And we submit also, Mr. Chair, that we will make the appropriate submission
01:48to the office of the Senator Anteveros regarding this matter, Mr. Chair.
01:52To the whole committee, sir, please, through the Chair.
01:55Yes, Mr. Chair.
01:56Salamat, Mr. Chairman.
01:58Yes, Mr. Chairman.
01:59And then, Senator Raffi.
02:01Never pa ako nakapag-interject.
02:03I've been quiet all along.
02:04After Senator Raffi.
02:06By the way, Mr. Chair, one o'clock, meron pa rin akong committee hearing sa public service.
02:10Yes, yes, yes.
02:11Okay, sige, Senator Raffi.
02:13Thank you, Mr. Chair.
02:14Thank you, Senator Wynne.
02:17Kay Secretary, Vince Dizon.
02:20Yung po mga narecover ninyong amounts from the contractors with ghost projects,
02:26yung sa liquidated damages, saka performance bond,
02:31saan po na pupunta yung amount na yun na nakukolekt?
02:32And how much so far has been collected?
02:34Unang-una po, nagsisimula pa lang po tayong i-call yung mga iba't-ibang bonds,
02:41insurance, warranties dito sa mga kontratang ito.
02:45As of now po, wala pa po tayong nakukuha.
02:47May proseso po ito basis sa ating mga regulasyon.
02:52Pero inumpisaan na po namin ito dito sa ating bagong team na pumasok.
02:57At magre-report po tayo once na nagawa na po ito
03:01at meron na po tayong mga final na mga i-recover nating bonds,
03:07insurance at mga warranties.
03:11I-report po natin ito agad-agad.
03:13Okay, yung mga marirecover na pera, saan pumapunta yun?
03:16Balik sa Kabanambayan, National Treasury, o doon sa project?
03:19Babalik po yan sa Kabanambayan, sa DPWH,
03:24at makikipag-usap po tayo sa ating Department of Finance at National Treasury
03:29kung paano po ang magiging treatment po nito.
03:32Kami po ay isasuggest po natin na dapat po immediately po gamitin po ito
03:39sa pagpapasaayos nitong mga either gross or substandard project.
03:44Pero hindi pa po natin alam kung ano ang magiging proseso dito
03:48at kung ano po ang magiging final decision po ng ating National Treasury
03:52kapag ito po ay nai-balik.
03:54Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's all.
03:55Mr. Chairman, just a few questions to Amlak.
04:01Kay E.D. David, sino-sino yung mga na-file na kaso?
04:05Sino-sinong individual and corporations?
04:09Mr. Chair, I cannot indicate po individually,
04:12but I can state that this involves contractors
04:16and all the other public officials from the DPWH.
04:18How come you cannot state it for the record?
04:21Mr. Chair, this is still pending with the Court of Appeals
04:24and under the rules on civil for future po and freeze orders,
04:28we cannot disclose in detail po the contents of the freeze orders.
04:32But can you specify the amounts of those individuals?
04:36The amounts from the bank accounts,
04:39we have to wait from the bank returns
04:40that will be coming from our covered persons
04:42and then we will total po the remaining amount
04:46that are present right now in the bank accounts.
04:48and insurance policies of the respondents.
04:50When will that happen?
04:52Right now, there are a few banks
04:55who already submitted the returns,
04:56but today we will have to complete the update po from the bank.
05:00Next week? Can we get that data next week?
05:04We will see po. We will see po.
05:05We will be a follow-up thing from the covered persons po
05:09to submit the returns.
05:09And then can you disclose that through an executive session?
05:13Yes, Mr. Chair, we will request for an executive session.
05:15So, Mr. Chair, I propose that,
05:17and we've done this with Senator Risa
05:19during the Alice Guo investigation,
05:23that once the data comes in
05:25and na-compile na lahat,
05:26we would request for an executive session
05:28so that we will know precisely
05:30the transactions of those individuals
05:32involved in this corrupt scheme.
05:33Noted, Senator Sir Wyn.
05:37So, any more questions?
05:39Chairman, pahabol na lang isa kay Secretary.
05:41Go ahead, please.
05:43Secretary, kabisado niyo po ba itong Department Order 132?
05:47Pasensya na po, hindi po.
05:52Ito po kasi yung amendments to Department Orders
05:57relative to the creation and operation
05:59of the quality assurance units.
06:01Ito po yung, kumbaga, quality control.
06:04Monitoring.
06:06Babasahin ko po yung isang relevant paragraph lang
06:08kasi important nila.
06:10Ito pong, quality assurance units,
06:16central office,
06:19shall be reporting directly
06:21to the QAU steering committee,
06:24QAU-SC,
06:27composed of the undersecretary
06:28and assistant secretary
06:29responsible for the overall supervision
06:31and control of the BQS
06:34as chairman and vice chairman, respectively.
06:36The BQS shall be in charge
06:39of the overall coordination and management
06:41of the QAU operations.
06:43Ito na po.
06:44The QAU-SC shall ensure
06:47the proper implementation of the guidelines
06:50for the imposition of administrative sanctions
06:54to erring engineers involved
06:57in the defective implementation of DPWH projects.
07:01Siguro po dito kayo mag-umpisa
07:03dahil po ang pinag-uusapan natin
07:05yung bulok na sistema
07:06eh hindi ginaganap po
07:08yung quality control
07:09na talagang dapat sanang sundin.
07:11Sana wala po tayong iniimbestig
07:13ang mga proyektong
07:14puro kabalbalan ngayong umaga.
07:16Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
07:18I'd like to...
07:19Yes, please.
07:20We agree po with the observations po
07:22of the good senator po.
07:25At yan po talaga
07:26isa sa mga kailangan natin gawin
07:28is yung pagsisigurado
07:30na yung monitoring
07:31at quality assurance
07:32ng mga proyekto
07:33na klarong-klaro
07:34dito sa mga nakita nating
07:36mga project na ito
07:37ay hindi ginawa ng tama.
07:39So, kailangan po talaga
07:40ma-implement po ng tama
07:42yung monitoring at quality assurance.
07:45So, kung wala na po tayong tanong
07:47doon sa dalawang gentlemen,
07:49pwede na po silang ma-excuse.
07:51And, Senator,
07:53mamaya na yung 3 minutes mo?
07:55Pwede ba si Senator Rafi?
07:56Kasi may hearing siya na 1 o'clock?
07:573 minutes lang ba natitira sa akin?
07:59Yeah, after last break na lang
08:01yung ituloy mo yung ano
08:02para makasingit na si Senator Rafi.
08:04Thank you, Mr. Chair.
08:05You have your 5 minutes.
08:06Wala pa siguro 5 minutes to Mr. Chair.
08:08Bibinis lang ko lang.
08:09In the meantime,
08:10Secretary Vince,
08:12Lison,
08:13and
08:13E.D.
08:15David.
08:17Maraming salamat po sa inyong dalawa.
08:18Maraming salamat po.
08:20Kami po ay na-invitin ulit,
08:21mabalik po kami.
08:22Maraming salamat po.
08:23Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair.
08:26Senator Rafi.
08:26Maraming salamat po sa inyong dalawa.
08:56Ay sa katuparan ng kanilang masamang balak.
08:59Mr. President,
09:00sa interview ni Mr. Curly Diskaya
09:02kay Julius Babaw,
09:03sinabi niya na dati
09:04iniisip niyang pumasok sa simbahan
09:06at magpare.
09:08Sana,
09:10para daw makatulong siya sa kanyang pamilya
09:12at kikitain niya
09:13sa mga donasyon.
09:15Ibig sabihin,
09:16kukupit siya doon sa mga limos
09:17para
09:19ibigay sa kanyang pamilya.
09:21Yung po ang sabi niya.
09:22At sabi niya,
09:24siguro hindi rin talaga pinagkaloob
09:26ng Panginoon
09:26dahil hindi maganda
09:27ang kanyang intensyon.
09:30Buti na lang.
09:31Pero,
09:32napunta sa DPWH,
09:34sa simbahan,
09:35bare-barea.
09:35Dito sa DPWH,
09:37tambak-tambak na sa lapi.
09:39Now,
09:40bago sa aking question,
09:41bukod sa
09:43flood control projects,
09:45ghost projects
09:46na pinusok ninyo
09:48na kunsaan nalok yung gobyerno
09:51ng malaking pera,
09:53pati ba naman
09:53yung mga pinaglayabang
09:55yung mga sakyan
09:56nilok nyo ng gobyerno
09:57dahil halos karamihan doon
09:59na smuggled,
09:59hindi ka nagbayad ng buwis.
10:01Pangatlo,
10:02sinabi mo dito noon
10:03na
10:04ayaw mo magbitaw
10:06sa iyong
10:07negosyo
10:08kahit napalugi
10:09dahil naawa ko
10:10sa matrabahador mo.
10:11May report sa Dole
10:13na nang-api ka
10:14ng mga atrabahador mo.
10:15Tumbeses ka naloko.
10:16So ngayon,
10:16tanong ko ngayon,
10:18dito sa dokumento
10:19ng Bureau of Customs,
10:21lumilitaw
10:22na marami ka mga
10:23vehicle dito,
10:28luxury vehicles,
10:29na wala
10:30sa record ng Bureau of Customs
10:32na nagbayad ng buwis
10:34o na ipasok man lang.
10:36Do you agree?
10:39Your Honor,
10:41binili po namin
10:41sa local dealer
10:42po yan dito sa Pilipinas.
10:44Wala po kaming
10:44intention manloko
10:46kasi hindi po kami
10:46ang nag-angkat niyan,
10:48kundi po yung dealer
10:49po na bumili.
10:50Hindi rin po namin alam
10:51kung nandaya sila
10:53dahil basta
10:53kami po ay inutang po namin
10:55sa kanila
10:55yung mga sasakyan na yan
10:57at may
10:58PDC din po kami
10:59na
11:00two years to pay po
11:02yung iba doon
11:02saka one year to pay po
11:03yung iba.
11:05Tapos
11:05good.
11:07Tapos your Honor,
11:07ganun din po
11:08yung tungkol naman po
11:09kay Jules Babaw.
11:10Wala naman po
11:11akong sinabing
11:12para mangupit po.
11:15Kundi ang sabi ko lang po
11:16doon ay talagang
11:17hindi talaga
11:17inadya ni Lord
11:18na
11:19maging
11:21pari po ako
11:22kasi ang purpose ko po
11:23noon ay
11:23matulungan po
11:24ang aking pamilya
11:25dahil talagang
11:26hirap kami sa buhay
11:27pero hindi po
11:28para
11:28mangupit.
11:31Tingin ko lang po
11:31baka
11:32ang sabi ko lang po
11:33doon
11:33siguro
11:34kaya kami dinala
11:34dito ni Lord
11:35sa ganitong klase
11:36ng bagay
11:36para mas marami
11:37pa kami matulungan.
11:38Para mas marami
11:39pa makulimbat.
11:41Your Honor,
11:41hindi po.
11:42May charity foundation
11:43po kami
11:43na tuloy-tuloy
11:44pong tumutulong
11:45sa mga
11:46nangangailangan po.
11:47Punta na tayo
11:48doon sa Bureau of Customs.
11:49So,
11:49meron ditong
11:50walong sasakyan
11:51na
11:52nasa posesyon ninyo
11:54na pinagmayabang nyo
11:55sa social media
11:56na walang records
11:59ang Bureau of Customs
12:01na nagbayad ng boys.
12:02Ibig sabihin
12:03ito ay swing.
12:04So, sabi mo
12:04binili mo lang ito
12:05sa isang dealer.
12:07Kasi ang gagawin ko
12:08patatawag ko yung dealer
12:09papatawag ko yung consignee
12:10at dahil
12:11magpipilian
12:12it's either
12:13yung consignee
12:13magpapakulong
12:14o ikaw
12:15ipapakulong niya.
12:17Kasi
12:17imposible
12:18these are
12:19very expensive
12:22cars
12:23we're talking about.
12:25Millions and millions
12:25of pesos.
12:26Imposible
12:27hindi mo tatanungin yan.
12:28Yan ba mali
12:28sa papel niyan pare?
12:30Yan ba
12:30nagbayad ng tax
12:32sa Bureau of Customs?
12:33Especially the fact
12:34na recently
12:35ako ang nag-expose
12:36noon tungkol doon
12:37sa
12:37dalawang
12:38kotse
12:39na
12:40Bugatti
12:42yung mga
12:44hot cars
12:45na Bugatti
12:45na nakumpis ka
12:46ng Bureau of Customs
12:47dahil hindi
12:47nagbayad ng boys.
12:48And
12:49I know for a fact
12:50na ilan sa mga vehicles
12:51dito
12:52ay pumasok
12:53sa Batangas.
12:55Alam mo yung modus
12:56ng mga dealer mo?
12:58Papalabasin
12:58sa container
12:59kunyari
13:00Toyota
13:00Tundra
13:01pero
13:01ang
13:02sa loob
13:02ng container
13:02yun yung
13:03role choice
13:04na may payong.
13:08Your Honor
13:08wala po kaming idea.
13:10In good faith po namin
13:11binili po yung
13:12sasakyan
13:12at katunayan
13:13inutang pa po namin
13:14sa kanila po.
13:16Wala po kaming idea
13:17basta binigyan lang po nila
13:18kami ng dokumento
13:19na kompleto po
13:19yung may certificate
13:20o payment din po
13:22basta
13:22naparegister
13:23at sila na rin po
13:25ang tumunong sa amin
13:25para iparegister po
13:27sa LTO
13:27yung
13:28yung mga sasakyan po
13:29wala po kaming alam
13:30kung paano po
13:31mag-import
13:31So nung binigyan ka
13:33ng dokumento
13:34para sa role choice
13:36halimbawa
13:36upang
13:38i-register
13:38sa LTO
13:39so meron kang
13:40hawak-hawak
13:41na dokumento
13:42galing sa
13:43Bureau of Customs
13:44dapat
13:45to prove na
13:46pumasok yan
13:47ng legal
13:47at yan ay
13:48nagbayad ng
13:48taxes
13:49and duties
13:50sa Bureau of Customs
13:52because it will not
13:53be registered
13:53hindi i-register
13:54ng Bureau of Customs
13:55yan dahil
13:55hain nasasakyan to
13:56kung wala kang hawak
13:57ng mga dokumentong
13:58yun
13:58Yes po
14:00Your Honor
14:00kaya nga po
14:01napatransfer po nila
14:02sa LTO po
14:04papunta po
14:04sa pangalan po namin
14:05Kaya nga
14:06so nakita mo
14:07yung dokumento
14:07galing sa Bureau of Customs
14:09na nagbayad ng
14:09buwis
14:10para sa Rolls Royce
14:12Rolls Royce na lang
14:14Your Honor
14:16yun po
14:16ang sabi po
14:17ng tao ko po
14:17sa akin
14:18kaya po
14:18natransfer po
14:19sa pangalan namin
14:20dahil
14:20kumpleto daw po
14:21yung dokumento
14:22Hindi
14:22hindi
14:22sabi ng tao po
14:23dapat nakita
14:24ng dalawang mata mo
14:25dahil sabi mo
14:25ikaw nag-register
14:26at sakampatak lang
14:27sa LTO
14:27dapat tayo mismo
14:29tayo may aring sakyan
14:30ang dapat nagpa-register
14:31kung hindi pati LTO
14:31tatamaan dito
14:32dahil bawal yun
14:33nag-iutusan mo
14:34yung ibang tao
14:35mag-register on your behalf
14:36para sa isang
14:36high-end sasakyan
14:37ibig sabi
14:38gumamit ka ng fixer
14:39so may tama ka na naman
14:40Hindi po yung honor
14:41yung mga staff po namin
14:43na inutusan ko po
14:43sa logistic
14:45sila po ang
14:45tumulong po
14:47At alam mo
14:47bawal yun
14:48magpa-register ka
14:48ng sasakyan
14:49at ipirma
14:51meron kang dapat
14:52pirma doon
14:52sa registration
14:53alam mo bawal yun
14:54hindi ka dapat
14:55pwedeng gumamit
14:55ng ibang tao
14:56dapat ikaw mismo
14:56ang pupunta sa LTO
14:57present yourself
14:58personally
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