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Philippine Senate Hearing Live | Flood Control Scam Worse Than Napoles, May Implicate Solons –Lacson

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Senator Panfilo Lacson on Thursday warned that the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee’s probe into anomalous flood-control projects could extend to lawmakers, saying that the scale of the irregularities uncovered so far is worse than the pork barrel scandal linked to Janet Lim-Napoles.

Lacson, who chairs the committee, said the panel would not hesitate to summon senators or representatives if the evidence warrants it, stressing that the inquiry would not protect anyone despite parliamentary courtesies.

He confirmed that closed-circuit television (CCTV) footage is being secured showing a supposed emissary, identified only as “Mina,” delivering alleged obligations inside the Senate.

“Kung masagasaan, masasagasaan. Kung may pagtatakpan, bakit tayo mag-iimbestiga? (If anyone is hit, so be it. If there is a cover-up, then why are we even investigating?),” Lacson told reporters at the Kapihan sa Senado forum.



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00:00As for your information, the PCC actually imposed a huge fine of about 2.4 billion pesos last September 2024.
00:10But this refers to another group of companies, itong Onion Cartel.
00:15Yun nga lang, isang taon na, hindi pa rin nababayaran yung multa.
00:20So, for the record, Secretary Deason, pag you go that route, huwag namang umabot ng isang taon bago wala pang namumulta, for the record.
00:32Apo, maraming salamat po. Pipigitin po natin. Na-action po tayo agad dito.
00:36One question for I'm Black, Mr. Chair, within the office of Senator Estrada.
00:40Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
00:41Kay Sir Attorney David, Sir, well, nagpapasalamat po ako sa mabilis yung action
00:47dun sa request ng bagong DPWH Secretary na i-freeze yung accounts ng mga involved dito.
00:53Ang tanong ko po ay, may reports na po ba kayong nakuha dati na pwedeng may kinalaman sa suhulan?
01:00Kasi imposible naman pong di yan iwi-withdraw ng contractors o di-indip deposit na mga nilagyan.
01:07So, meron na po bang reports at pwede nyo po bang i-submit yung mga reports na yun sa komite?
01:12Mr. Chair, we confirm that we have already received several reports from the banks and financial institutions
01:21and other covered persons regarding transactions that probably are involved in corruption activities, Mr. Chair.
01:30And this became one of the bases for the filing of the—we can confirm that we filed a petition for freeze order
01:37with Court of Appeals, and the Court of Appeals issued that freeze order recently.
01:43And we submit also, Mr. Chair, that we will make the appropriate submission
01:48to the office of the Senator Anteveros regarding this matter, Mr. Chair.
01:52To the whole committee, sir, please, through the Chair.
01:55Yes, Mr. Chair.
01:56Salamat, Mr. Chairman.
01:58Yes, Mr. Chairman.
01:59And then, Senator Raffi.
02:01Never pa ako nakapag-interject.
02:03I've been quiet all along.
02:04After Senator Raffi.
02:06By the way, Mr. Chair, one o'clock, meron pa rin akong committee hearing sa public service.
02:10Yes, yes, yes.
02:11Okay, sige, Senator Raffi.
02:13Thank you, Mr. Chair.
02:14Thank you, Senator Wynne.
02:17Kay Secretary, Vince Dizon.
02:20Yung po mga narecover ninyong amounts from the contractors with ghost projects,
02:26yung sa liquidated damages, saka performance bond,
02:31saan po na pupunta yung amount na yun na nakukolekt?
02:32And how much so far has been collected?
02:34Unang-una po, nagsisimula pa lang po tayong i-call yung mga iba't-ibang bonds,
02:41insurance, warranties dito sa mga kontratang ito.
02:45As of now po, wala pa po tayong nakukuha.
02:47May proseso po ito basis sa ating mga regulasyon.
02:52Pero inumpisaan na po namin ito dito sa ating bagong team na pumasok.
02:57At magre-report po tayo once na nagawa na po ito
03:01at meron na po tayong mga final na mga i-recover nating bonds,
03:07insurance at mga warranties.
03:11I-report po natin ito agad-agad.
03:13Okay, yung mga marirecover na pera, saan pumapunta yun?
03:16Balik sa Kabanambayan, National Treasury, o doon sa project?
03:19Babalik po yan sa Kabanambayan, sa DPWH,
03:24at makikipag-usap po tayo sa ating Department of Finance at National Treasury
03:29kung paano po ang magiging treatment po nito.
03:32Kami po ay isasuggest po natin na dapat po immediately po gamitin po ito
03:39sa pagpapasaayos nitong mga either gross or substandard project.
03:44Pero hindi pa po natin alam kung ano ang magiging proseso dito
03:48at kung ano po ang magiging final decision po ng ating National Treasury
03:52kapag ito po ay nai-balik.
03:54Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's all.
03:55Mr. Chairman, just a few questions to Amlak.
04:01Kay E.D. David, sino-sino yung mga na-file na kaso?
04:05Sino-sinong individual and corporations?
04:09Mr. Chair, I cannot indicate po individually,
04:12but I can state that this involves contractors
04:16and all the other public officials from the DPWH.
04:18How come you cannot state it for the record?
04:21Mr. Chair, this is still pending with the Court of Appeals
04:24and under the rules on civil for future po and freeze orders,
04:28we cannot disclose in detail po the contents of the freeze orders.
04:32But can you specify the amounts of those individuals?
04:36The amounts from the bank accounts,
04:39we have to wait from the bank returns
04:40that will be coming from our covered persons
04:42and then we will total po the remaining amount
04:46that are present right now in the bank accounts.
04:48and insurance policies of the respondents.
04:50When will that happen?
04:52Right now, there are a few banks
04:55who already submitted the returns,
04:56but today we will have to complete the update po from the bank.
05:00Next week? Can we get that data next week?
05:04We will see po. We will see po.
05:05We will be a follow-up thing from the covered persons po
05:09to submit the returns.
05:09And then can you disclose that through an executive session?
05:13Yes, Mr. Chair, we will request for an executive session.
05:15So, Mr. Chair, I propose that,
05:17and we've done this with Senator Risa
05:19during the Alice Guo investigation,
05:23that once the data comes in
05:25and na-compile na lahat,
05:26we would request for an executive session
05:28so that we will know precisely
05:30the transactions of those individuals
05:32involved in this corrupt scheme.
05:33Noted, Senator Sir Wyn.
05:37So, any more questions?
05:39Chairman, pahabol na lang isa kay Secretary.
05:41Go ahead, please.
05:43Secretary, kabisado niyo po ba itong Department Order 132?
05:47Pasensya na po, hindi po.
05:52Ito po kasi yung amendments to Department Orders
05:57relative to the creation and operation
05:59of the quality assurance units.
06:01Ito po yung, kumbaga, quality control.
06:04Monitoring.
06:06Babasahin ko po yung isang relevant paragraph lang
06:08kasi important nila.
06:10Ito pong, quality assurance units,
06:16central office,
06:19shall be reporting directly
06:21to the QAU steering committee,
06:24QAU-SC,
06:27composed of the undersecretary
06:28and assistant secretary
06:29responsible for the overall supervision
06:31and control of the BQS
06:34as chairman and vice chairman, respectively.
06:36The BQS shall be in charge
06:39of the overall coordination and management
06:41of the QAU operations.
06:43Ito na po.
06:44The QAU-SC shall ensure
06:47the proper implementation of the guidelines
06:50for the imposition of administrative sanctions
06:54to erring engineers involved
06:57in the defective implementation of DPWH projects.
07:01Siguro po dito kayo mag-umpisa
07:03dahil po ang pinag-uusapan natin
07:05yung bulok na sistema
07:06eh hindi ginaganap po
07:08yung quality control
07:09na talagang dapat sanang sundin.
07:11Sana wala po tayong iniimbestig
07:13ang mga proyektong
07:14puro kabalbalan ngayong umaga.
07:16Salamat po, Mr. Chair.
07:18I'd like to...
07:19Yes, please.
07:20We agree po with the observations po
07:22of the good senator po.
07:25At yan po talaga
07:26isa sa mga kailangan natin gawin
07:28is yung pagsisigurado
07:30na yung monitoring
07:31at quality assurance
07:32ng mga proyekto
07:33na klarong-klaro
07:34dito sa mga nakita nating
07:36mga project na ito
07:37ay hindi ginawa ng tama.
07:39So, kailangan po talaga
07:40ma-implement po ng tama
07:42yung monitoring at quality assurance.
07:45So, kung wala na po tayong tanong
07:47doon sa dalawang gentlemen,
07:49pwede na po silang ma-excuse.
07:51And, Senator,
07:53mamaya na yung 3 minutes mo?
07:55Pwede ba si Senator Rafi?
07:56Kasi may hearing siya na 1 o'clock?
07:573 minutes lang ba natitira sa akin?
07:59Yeah, after last break na lang
08:01yung ituloy mo yung ano
08:02para makasingit na si Senator Rafi.
08:04Thank you, Mr. Chair.
08:05You have your 5 minutes.
08:06Wala pa siguro 5 minutes to Mr. Chair.
08:08Bibinis lang ko lang.
08:09In the meantime,
08:10Secretary Vince,
08:12Lison,
08:13and
08:13E.D.
08:15David.
08:17Maraming salamat po sa inyong dalawa.
08:18Maraming salamat po.
08:20Kami po ay na-invitin ulit,
08:21mabalik po kami.
08:22Maraming salamat po.
08:23Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair.
08:26Senator Rafi.
08:26Maraming salamat po sa inyong dalawa.
08:56Ay sa katuparan ng kanilang masamang balak.
08:59Mr. President,
09:00sa interview ni Mr. Curly Diskaya
09:02kay Julius Babaw,
09:03sinabi niya na dati
09:04iniisip niyang pumasok sa simbahan
09:06at magpare.
09:08Sana,
09:10para daw makatulong siya sa kanyang pamilya
09:12at kikitain niya
09:13sa mga donasyon.
09:15Ibig sabihin,
09:16kukupit siya doon sa mga limos
09:17para
09:19ibigay sa kanyang pamilya.
09:21Yung po ang sabi niya.
09:22At sabi niya,
09:24siguro hindi rin talaga pinagkaloob
09:26ng Panginoon
09:26dahil hindi maganda
09:27ang kanyang intensyon.
09:30Buti na lang.
09:31Pero,
09:32napunta sa DPWH,
09:34sa simbahan,
09:35bare-barea.
09:35Dito sa DPWH,
09:37tambak-tambak na sa lapi.
09:39Now,
09:40bago sa aking question,
09:41bukod sa
09:43flood control projects,
09:45ghost projects
09:46na pinusok ninyo
09:48na kunsaan nalok yung gobyerno
09:51ng malaking pera,
09:53pati ba naman
09:53yung mga pinaglayabang
09:55yung mga sakyan
09:56nilok nyo ng gobyerno
09:57dahil halos karamihan doon
09:59na smuggled,
09:59hindi ka nagbayad ng buwis.
10:01Pangatlo,
10:02sinabi mo dito noon
10:03na
10:04ayaw mo magbitaw
10:06sa iyong
10:07negosyo
10:08kahit napalugi
10:09dahil naawa ko
10:10sa matrabahador mo.
10:11May report sa Dole
10:13na nang-api ka
10:14ng mga atrabahador mo.
10:15Tumbeses ka naloko.
10:16So ngayon,
10:16tanong ko ngayon,
10:18dito sa dokumento
10:19ng Bureau of Customs,
10:21lumilitaw
10:22na marami ka mga
10:23vehicle dito,
10:28luxury vehicles,
10:29na wala
10:30sa record ng Bureau of Customs
10:32na nagbayad ng buwis
10:34o na ipasok man lang.
10:36Do you agree?
10:39Your Honor,
10:41binili po namin
10:41sa local dealer
10:42po yan dito sa Pilipinas.
10:44Wala po kaming
10:44intention manloko
10:46kasi hindi po kami
10:46ang nag-angkat niyan,
10:48kundi po yung dealer
10:49po na bumili.
10:50Hindi rin po namin alam
10:51kung nandaya sila
10:53dahil basta
10:53kami po ay inutang po namin
10:55sa kanila
10:55yung mga sasakyan na yan
10:57at may
10:58PDC din po kami
10:59na
11:00two years to pay po
11:02yung iba doon
11:02saka one year to pay po
11:03yung iba.
11:05Tapos
11:05good.
11:07Tapos your Honor,
11:07ganun din po
11:08yung tungkol naman po
11:09kay Jules Babaw.
11:10Wala naman po
11:11akong sinabing
11:12para mangupit po.
11:15Kundi ang sabi ko lang po
11:16doon ay talagang
11:17hindi talaga
11:17inadya ni Lord
11:18na
11:19maging
11:21pari po ako
11:22kasi ang purpose ko po
11:23noon ay
11:23matulungan po
11:24ang aking pamilya
11:25dahil talagang
11:26hirap kami sa buhay
11:27pero hindi po
11:28para
11:28mangupit.
11:31Tingin ko lang po
11:31baka
11:32ang sabi ko lang po
11:33doon
11:33siguro
11:34kaya kami dinala
11:34dito ni Lord
11:35sa ganitong klase
11:36ng bagay
11:36para mas marami
11:37pa kami matulungan.
11:38Para mas marami
11:39pa makulimbat.
11:41Your Honor,
11:41hindi po.
11:42May charity foundation
11:43po kami
11:43na tuloy-tuloy
11:44pong tumutulong
11:45sa mga
11:46nangangailangan po.
11:47Punta na tayo
11:48doon sa Bureau of Customs.
11:49So,
11:49meron ditong
11:50walong sasakyan
11:51na
11:52nasa posesyon ninyo
11:54na pinagmayabang nyo
11:55sa social media
11:56na walang records
11:59ang Bureau of Customs
12:01na nagbayad ng boys.
12:02Ibig sabihin
12:03ito ay swing.
12:04So, sabi mo
12:04binili mo lang ito
12:05sa isang dealer.
12:07Kasi ang gagawin ko
12:08patatawag ko yung dealer
12:09papatawag ko yung consignee
12:10at dahil
12:11magpipilian
12:12it's either
12:13yung consignee
12:13magpapakulong
12:14o ikaw
12:15ipapakulong niya.
12:17Kasi
12:17imposible
12:18these are
12:19very expensive
12:22cars
12:23we're talking about.
12:25Millions and millions
12:25of pesos.
12:26Imposible
12:27hindi mo tatanungin yan.
12:28Yan ba mali
12:28sa papel niyan pare?
12:30Yan ba
12:30nagbayad ng tax
12:32sa Bureau of Customs?
12:33Especially the fact
12:34na recently
12:35ako ang nag-expose
12:36noon tungkol doon
12:37sa
12:37dalawang
12:38kotse
12:39na
12:40Bugatti
12:42yung mga
12:44hot cars
12:45na Bugatti
12:45na nakumpis ka
12:46ng Bureau of Customs
12:47dahil hindi
12:47nagbayad ng boys.
12:48And
12:49I know for a fact
12:50na ilan sa mga vehicles
12:51dito
12:52ay pumasok
12:53sa Batangas.
12:55Alam mo yung modus
12:56ng mga dealer mo?
12:58Papalabasin
12:58sa container
12:59kunyari
13:00Toyota
13:00Tundra
13:01pero
13:01ang
13:02sa loob
13:02ng container
13:02yun yung
13:03role choice
13:04na may payong.
13:08Your Honor
13:08wala po kaming idea.
13:10In good faith po namin
13:11binili po yung
13:12sasakyan
13:12at katunayan
13:13inutang pa po namin
13:14sa kanila po.
13:16Wala po kaming idea
13:17basta binigyan lang po nila
13:18kami ng dokumento
13:19na kompleto po
13:19yung may certificate
13:20o payment din po
13:22basta
13:22naparegister
13:23at sila na rin po
13:25ang tumunong sa amin
13:25para iparegister po
13:27sa LTO
13:27yung
13:28yung mga sasakyan po
13:29wala po kaming alam
13:30kung paano po
13:31mag-import
13:31So nung binigyan ka
13:33ng dokumento
13:34para sa role choice
13:36halimbawa
13:36upang
13:38i-register
13:38sa LTO
13:39so meron kang
13:40hawak-hawak
13:41na dokumento
13:42galing sa
13:43Bureau of Customs
13:44dapat
13:45to prove na
13:46pumasok yan
13:47ng legal
13:47at yan ay
13:48nagbayad ng
13:48taxes
13:49and duties
13:50sa Bureau of Customs
13:52because it will not
13:53be registered
13:53hindi i-register
13:54ng Bureau of Customs
13:55yan dahil
13:55hain nasasakyan to
13:56kung wala kang hawak
13:57ng mga dokumentong
13:58yun
13:58Yes po
14:00Your Honor
14:00kaya nga po
14:01napatransfer po nila
14:02sa LTO po
14:04papunta po
14:04sa pangalan po namin
14:05Kaya nga
14:06so nakita mo
14:07yung dokumento
14:07galing sa Bureau of Customs
14:09na nagbayad ng
14:09buwis
14:10para sa Rolls Royce
14:12Rolls Royce na lang
14:14Your Honor
14:16yun po
14:16ang sabi po
14:17ng tao ko po
14:17sa akin
14:18kaya po
14:18natransfer po
14:19sa pangalan namin
14:20dahil
14:20kumpleto daw po
14:21yung dokumento
14:22Hindi
14:22hindi
14:22sabi ng tao po
14:23dapat nakita
14:24ng dalawang mata mo
14:25dahil sabi mo
14:25ikaw nag-register
14:26at sakampatak lang
14:27sa LTO
14:27dapat tayo mismo
14:29tayo may aring sakyan
14:30ang dapat nagpa-register
14:31kung hindi pati LTO
14:31tatamaan dito
14:32dahil bawal yun
14:33nag-iutusan mo
14:34yung ibang tao
14:35mag-register on your behalf
14:36para sa isang
14:36high-end sasakyan
14:37ibig sabi
14:38gumamit ka ng fixer
14:39so may tama ka na naman
14:40Hindi po yung honor
14:41yung mga staff po namin
14:43na inutusan ko po
14:43sa logistic
14:45sila po ang
14:45tumulong po
14:47At alam mo
14:47bawal yun
14:48magpa-register ka
14:48ng sasakyan
14:49at ipirma
14:51meron kang dapat
14:52pirma doon
14:52sa registration
14:53alam mo bawal yun
14:54hindi ka dapat
14:55pwedeng gumamit
14:55ng ibang tao
14:56dapat ikaw mismo
14:56ang pupunta sa LTO
14:57present yourself
14:58personally
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