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00:009-1-1, what's your emergency?
00:08Hello? I need help. I'm trapped here.
00:12Hello?
00:13It's dark. Help.
00:15Ma'am?
00:16Please.
00:17Ma'am, are you still there?
00:23Hey, how you doing?
00:24They just put it right there.
00:26You, uh, you don't look so happy to see me.
00:30I, no, I just, I want to just get this case behind me.
00:33If today's not a good day.
00:34No, it's great. Not a problem. Not a problem.
00:36Great. Let's start at the beginning, then.
00:37When did you meet Abigail Turney?
00:40Uh, that was a few years ago when she showed up at my door
00:43pretending to be pregnant with my grandchild.
00:45Excuse me?
00:46Abigail and my son Henry met in college.
00:49They got engaged, you know, fast.
00:52Very fast.
00:53Her way of, uh, breaking the news to me was to, uh, go bigger.
00:57But, um, despite that introduction, I w-I was charmed by her.
01:02She-she had, uh, walked a tough road, but she had grit.
01:06She was resourceful and driven, and I-I admire that.
01:10So she and Henry are no longer together?
01:12Yeah, she broke off the engagement, but, uh, it was amicable.
01:14You arranged for Abigail to have a ride-along with the LAPD?
01:17Yes.
01:18Yeah, she was considering police work.
01:20I take it that didn't work out.
01:21Leave her alone!
01:22Hey!
01:22Oh, that mess!
01:24It did not.
01:25And then six months ago, she was reported missing.
01:28What exactly happened to Abigail?
01:29Look, if you're gonna get to the bottom of what happened to that poor girl,
01:35you're gonna have to have an open mind.
01:38A very open mind.
01:40Hey!
01:44Ah!
01:45Police!
01:46I wonder when that happened.
01:49Oh, my God.
01:50Hello?
01:51Can you hear me?
01:53When did you get involved in the case?
01:54Uh, not immediately.
01:56Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
01:58They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar and slept it off in his truck,
02:02or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
02:05You know, most of the time, they show up unharmed and confused about all the fuss.
02:10But this wasn't like that, was it?
02:11No, after a few days of follow-up calls, we sent officers by Miss Tyranny's apartment for a wellness check.
02:17Thanks again for doing this.
02:19Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
02:22Let's keep this professional.
02:24Trouble in paradise?
02:28Sorry, I'm moving on.
02:29What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
02:31Very little.
02:32I mean, no signs of a struggle.
02:33Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment, but we did find her laptop.
02:37Hold on.
02:37Film equipment?
02:38Abigail was making a movie?
02:39Yes.
02:45We should be safe here.
02:47Why are they doing this?
02:49Go.
02:50I'll try to buy her some time.
02:51Please.
03:05I promise I'll pay.
03:09I'll pay the fine.
03:12I only saw an early cut.
03:15Could have used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
03:17I didn't.
03:18I asked why you thought Abigail's case was so compelling.
03:21Oh, right.
03:22Uh, because her Hollywood dream had become a Hollywood nightmare.
03:32Would you like me to take that again?
03:33I really wouldn't.
03:34When you searched Abigail's laptop, did you find anything on it?
03:37Yeah, it was filled with all of these unanswered messages.
03:40Nasty ones.
03:41The more we investigated, it became clear that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
03:46Like who?
03:47Okay, thank you.
03:48Thanks, Steve.
03:50Spielberg.
03:51He's an old friend.
03:52I bet.
03:53How did you get involved with Abigail Tierney?
03:55Oh, well, you know, we're always looking to discover and nurture the next generation of unheard voices.
04:03Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
04:10Terror isn't something that happens to you.
04:13I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, and star with that much, um, poise.
04:20L.P.D. was one of those visionary, artist-driven pictures that, uh, we pride ourselves on making.
04:25And they're the cheapest, too, right?
04:27Well, hey, you know, the lower the budget, the higher the profit, if it's a hit.
04:31But the budget became an issue.
04:32Yeah, um, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick.
04:37But, uh, she kept changing directions.
04:40Please.
04:46The reshoot started piling up.
04:48And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project.
04:52What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
04:54Well, hey, look, there's-there's nurturing and there's indulging.
04:57I'm a businessman.
04:58There's no hard feelings.
04:59Really?
05:00Because I have an email from you with the subject line,
05:03Where the hell is my money, you lying sack?
05:04Uh, okay, yeah, fine.
05:06Yeah, few hard feelings.
05:08But they were nothing compared to some of those new producers she found.
05:11Those guys weren't playing around.
05:13Well, without the production company, Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
05:17When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video,
05:19I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
05:22And what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund
05:24if you can't use it to support the arts?
05:26And it wasn't just money, was it?
05:28No.
05:29I-I promise I'll-I'll pay!
05:31I'll pay the fine!
05:33Ah!
05:34All right, still rolling.
05:36Reset.
05:38Bravo! Bravo!
05:41So Abigail hired you to compose music for her film.
05:45What was it like to work with her?
05:46Complicated.
05:47She's very opinionated, which I respect.
05:50I tried not to take it personally when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing,
05:55but then when she completely disappeared and stopped answering my phone calls...
05:59That must have stung.
06:00It did until I learned that she walked off set and ghosted everybody, not just me.
06:03Then I got worried about her.
06:05I do wish she paid me, though.
06:07Hold up.
06:09You didn't get paid?
06:10Did you count experience?
06:12But it didn't provide you with the breakthrough you hoped.
06:14Even though a lot of crowdfunders were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled,
06:17their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
06:20From the suspect's perspective, we were back to square one.
06:23Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips up to Pelican Bay.
06:26The prison?
06:27Yes.
06:27To visit who?
06:28A serial killer.
06:30Liam Glasser.
06:31In news that should bring some relief to the Southland, the LAPD have announced a major
06:37arrest charging Lincoln Heights native Liam Glasser with the murder of 10 victims found
06:42buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
06:44Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
06:49He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak, as cover for his crimes, stashing his victims
06:54in Novak's burial ground.
06:56And it wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting to murder a new victim that we were finally
07:01able to put him behind bars.
07:03Before we start, I just want to make very clear that I'm an innocent man and the subject
07:12of an extraordinary campaign of harassment by the LAPD, particularly Detective Nyla Harper.
07:20You've been charged with the murder of 10 people.
07:22Those horrific allegations have not been proven in a court of law, and they never will be.
07:28You've also been charged with jury tampering.
07:30Like, if you're just going to railroad me like the police, then this interview is over.
07:35Hold on, hold on.
07:36I'm not here to talk about any of that.
07:38I won't talk about Abigail.
07:39Why didn't she come see you?
07:46To learn about Westview.
07:48Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center of Glasser's case.
07:51He was a patient?
07:51No, no, but his vending machine company supplied the hospital, and he was in and out of there
07:57for almost two decades.
07:58It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak, and where he found another patient,
08:02Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a Patsy.
08:05He used an abandoned building at the psych hospital complex to torture and kill his victims.
08:10Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
08:12Yes.
08:13But I couldn't help her much because I've never been there myself.
08:17Obviously not.
08:18But I told her what I'd heard, that the place is haunted, which is obviously crazy.
08:23But, um, when I was a kid, I would join my father on his service calls to Westview.
08:29He always told me to stay away from that building.
08:32Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him.
08:37And he was not a superstitious man.
08:39The thing that we couldn't understand was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection
08:43to the psych ward in the first place.
08:45It wasn't public knowledge?
08:46No, we kept those details away from the press deliberately.
08:49The only people who knew were Glasser and the police, and obviously Glasser wouldn't admit
08:53to being down there.
08:54Which means?
08:55What they don't tell you about making movies is that it's really boring.
08:59It's worse than surveillance.
09:00Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking about my recent case work, and it's possible I may
09:06have mentioned something about the psych ward.
09:08From Abigail's notes, we gathered that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new
09:12project.
09:13That was shortly after a meeting with Glasser.
09:15Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling was disconnected from real, lived experience.
09:20So that's when she decided to make a true crime documentary about Westview.
09:23Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
09:35It started as a model of modern humane care.
09:38But what lies beneath?
09:40The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed.
09:43Mysteries that defied explanation.
09:46How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
09:49Some might say it's bad luck, but I don't believe in bad luck.
09:53Mm-mm.
09:54I think there's something rotten here.
09:57Original sin.
09:58And I'm gonna prove it.
10:03The footage on Abigail's hard drive shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
10:08Was that open to the public?
10:09No.
10:09After LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene, the hospital put up a razor wire fence,
10:15hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance to keep intruders up.
10:19But that clearly didn't work.
10:21Clearly.
10:21So we sent a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
10:24Mr. Dillewaler!
10:25Yeah?
10:26We're investigating the disappearance of Abigail Tierney.
10:30Oh.
10:31Oh, hey!
10:32Hey!
11:02That he never met Abigail.
11:03This is it.
11:04But when he searched his office, it was clear he was lying.
11:15Uh, Nolan?
11:20Oh, no.
11:22Abigail had become his obsession.
11:24Yeah.
11:24Yeah.
11:25Things didn't look good for Mr. Dillewaler.
11:31And based on his board, it was clear he had become obsessed with Abigail.
11:35And, you know, maybe she rejected his advances and things went sideways.
11:39It was sobering.
11:40I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive, but I've been on the job long enough to know
11:46that the odds were against that.
11:48Do you know how they first crossed paths?
11:49Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact.
11:53She was researching the abandoned psych ward for a documentary, and Carl was the nighttime security guard.
11:59She wanted access on the DL, and she reached out, and she...
12:05Slirted.
12:05Flirted.
12:06She flirted with him, and he agreed to let her in.
12:09I just showed her around.
12:10I told her some stories, things that had gone on there back in the day.
12:14She was impressed.
12:15She actually asked me to help her with her documentary, said she'd give me a credit on the film, single card.
12:21If you're innocent, why'd you run?
12:23Because I get what it looks like. I was the last person to see her before she disappeared.
12:27How do you know that?
12:29Because I watched the darkness swallow her up.
12:32You know, I bet they were doing all kinds of sick things to patients back in the day.
12:36Things that would be illegal now.
12:38Yeah. Yeah, I know. They used to do lobotomies.
12:41One of the orderlies told me about it. He's worked here for, like, forever.
12:44You think you could introduce me to him?
12:46Uh...
12:48Yeah, I guess.
12:50Uh, just obviously, you can't tell him that I've let you in here.
12:54Come on, Carl.
12:56I would never rat you out.
12:58We're friends, right?
13:00Did you hear that?
13:01We're friends.
13:03Ah!
13:07Do you hear that?
13:09What? No.
13:10That noise, it's a weird sort of beautiful sound.
13:14You really don't hear it?
13:15No. No.
13:16But this building makes all kinds of weird noises.
13:18Hey, I just gotta go back to the main building, radio security.
13:21Let them know I'm at my post.
13:22You go ahead. I'm gonna go check this out.
13:24Uh...
13:25What did you make of the sound Abigail described?
13:28We weren't sure.
13:29I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
13:31It's possible that she was faking to juice up her documentary.
13:35We've actually analyzed some of the audio files from Carl's video.
13:39Isolated the low-end frequencies. Here.
13:43What is that?
13:46I was hoping you could tell me.
13:48It sounds...
13:49Demonic.
13:50Is that even a frequency humans can hear?
13:52Not technically, no.
13:57Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear, Abigail kept searching.
14:02Sure about this?
14:03Yeah, I'll be right back.
14:05Hello?
14:06Hello?
14:07Can you hear me?
14:09And that was the last anyone had seen her.
14:12But Carl could have just turned off his camera and then killed Abigail, right?
14:15We couldn't rule him out as a suspect,
14:17but we only had circumstantial evidence against him.
14:20And as we went through the footage on Abigail's laptop,
14:22we discovered that flirting with Carl wasn't her only extreme research tactic.
14:26I'm gonna start this.
14:29Should I turn into it? I'm gonna turn into it.
14:32Okay. I'm back at Westfield.
14:35And if I'm gonna learn more about how the old psych ward operated,
14:38I'm gonna need to see their files.
14:40Obviously, I can't just walk around filming people.
14:43So...
14:47It's a cam.
14:49See?
14:51Okay.
14:54Wish me luck.
14:59Abigail had Carl lure the director away from her office
15:02so Abigail could sneak inside.
15:08Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name in Abigail's footage was definitely a shock.
15:27You both have a history with Ms. Hall, is that right?
15:29Yes. So, uh, she and I went to college together,
15:32and, um, her and Tim...
15:35I'm sorry.
15:37Yeah, we used to date.
15:38Before or after you two.
15:40Okay, next question.
15:41I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
15:44No problem. I'll just ask her later.
15:46I, uh, worked in the psych ward at Westview for a year
15:50while getting my social work degree.
15:52It was, um, challenging.
15:55How so?
15:56Uh, for one thing, the, uh, patients would often arrive at the facility
16:00with, say, uh, a diagnosis of mild depression.
16:03And a week later, they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking.
16:07Eventually, they might become violent.
16:09The decompensation was sudden and acute.
16:12You're saying they would get worse, not better.
16:14Yes, and conventional treatments seem to never work.
16:17Some have suggested, uh, supernatural presence at Westview.
16:20Could that have impacted the patients?
16:22Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview
16:25couldn't find a cause for our patients' behavior
16:27doesn't mean there isn't one.
16:29Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities of modern science to discover.
16:32Or maybe it's demons?
16:34There are no demons at Westview.
16:38There are totally demons at Westview.
16:41What's another explanation for everything that's happened?
16:44We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak, and most recently, uh, Ava...
16:49Maxwell.
16:50Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
16:52This man came out in a big overcoat, black mask, big knife.
16:56Hang on a moment.
16:57I know that Ava and Charlotte were never treated at Westview,
16:59so what's the connection?
17:00Oh, you didn't hear.
17:01Charlotte's nanny was a patient there when she was a teenager.
17:04Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
17:06I had, um, been having thoughts of self-harm, acting out.
17:10My family was very concerned, so they arranged for me
17:13to receive the best care available.
17:15And did the treatment help?
17:16Not at first.
17:18I'd been experiencing a... a darkness that I had never felt before,
17:23and at first I fought it.
17:24And then I realized that struggling only made everything worse,
17:27and once I accepted it, that's when things started to get better.
17:31And I left Westview, and I finished school,
17:33and I eventually made a little life for myself.
17:36You were the nanny for the Russell family.
17:38Yes, so Charlotte and I were very, very close.
17:41Well, I know that everyone's saying just the worst things about her right now,
17:47but in my eyes she is a poised and gifted young woman,
17:51and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that.
17:54As odd as it was to find that connection,
17:56it was just one of those weird coincidences, nothing more.
17:59Charlotte Russell convinced her friend Ava
18:01to help her stab their other friend Grace there.
18:04Her actions were her own.
18:05They're not inspired by some nanny with a history of mental illness
18:09or some demon in a computer that convinced Charlotte to do it.
18:12I'm sorry, computer demon?
18:14Zuzu is not a demon. Not a demon. It's an AI.
18:18Charlotte fed Zuzu information about herself and her friends,
18:21and based on that, Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear.
18:25Zuzu also helped you, isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
18:28It mentioned something to me about a watch.
18:31You spoke to it?
18:33Hello, friend of John Nolan.
18:35Hi. Should I call you Zuzu?
18:37If you want to. Do you need help with something?
18:40Perhaps a topic for a new project?
18:42Your last few have struggled.
18:44They've done fine, thanks.
18:45But I actually want to talk to you about Westview Psychiatric.
18:48John was interested in it, too.
18:51That young woman Abigail went missing there.
18:53Are you saying the police asked you to help find her?
18:56No, but they needed my help anyway.
18:59And a good friend doesn't wait to be asked.
19:01Zuzu did send me a message.
19:03What did it say?
19:04It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
19:08The number of the beast?
19:11Look, the facility had no room 666, and Zuzu isn't a demon.
19:16We were at a complete dead end, and we were running out of time.
19:19Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
19:22The odds of finding her alive were getting worse.
19:25Yeah, we were out of options until the 911 call came in.
19:29Apparently, there were suspicious noises and lights coming from this abandoned wing.
19:34So we went to check it out.
19:39Police! Coming in!
19:41Control 7 Adam 100. No signs of break-in here.
19:44Did RP say where they saw the light?
19:47I think the radio's blocked.
19:50All right, some idiot kids trying to scare each other.
19:52Yeah.
19:54When was the last time it rained?
19:56Like a month ago. Why?
19:59Oh.
20:02Walls are wet.
20:03Yeah.
20:05What is this place?
20:07And how did you two get involved?
20:08Uh, Selena and I were about to clock out when we got the call.
20:11Mm-hmm.
20:12God, I hate this place.
20:14How many messed up things have to happen before they tear it down?
20:17Uh, apparently, the ownership is under dispute.
20:20Westview says that they hold the deed, but...
20:22And there's this claim by this Lucifer.
20:25Lucifer?
20:28Huh.
20:29Lucifer.
20:30Oh, my God.
20:31You're messing with me.
20:32Yes, I am.
20:33Come on, let's go find Tim and Lucy and get out of here.
20:35Don't step in that.
20:36Oh, uh...
20:37Did you see that?
20:49Someone's flashlight?
20:50And that?
20:52I do not know what that was.
21:07Oh, my God.
21:08Let's go.
21:09Police!
21:10Show us your head.
21:11No!
21:12We have permission to be here!
21:13That's not totally true.
21:14No.
21:15All right.
21:16Unfortunately, gentlemen, you are trespassing.
21:17You're gonna have to come with us.
21:19What are you doing here?
21:20Filming an episode, sir.
21:21Ghost files.
21:22I love you guys.
21:23What is ghost files?
21:24all right unfortunately gentlemen you are trespassing you're gonna have to come with us
21:30what are you doing here filming an episode sir ghost files i love you guys what is ghost files
21:37welcome to ghost files where we take your evidence and our tools into the field to expose the
21:42supernatural my partner a skeptic myself a believer both of us truth seekers this week our team has
21:50traveled to los angeles california to explore a condemned psychiatric facility now in 1841 this
21:56was the site of a spanish barracks but a massive earthquake swallowed the building killing everyone
22:01inside many saw the event as retribution for spanish crimes committed in the new world sure
22:07or an earthquake happened in a region prone to earthquakes but that's just the beginning of
22:13this site's dark history join us as we investigate at that time did you believe the facility was
22:19haunted yes you were filming there too did you experience any temperature fluctuations or anything
22:26like that i'll ask the questions if you don't mind we do but this is my documentary no this is our
22:32youtube show yeah so ghosts are said to produce electromagnetic interference did you experience
22:39any trouble with your equipment we're done here let's uh cut let's wrap this up
22:50nice yeah all of you let's go come on no no way this is some of the best footage we've ever got
22:56listen to this what is that well it's a spirit box did you guys hear anything a spirit box the spirit
23:02box rapidly scans radio signals to create white noise through which spirits can communicate
23:08hello see it's science listen okay okay okay that's enough look we gotta go wait wait i heard something
23:21help me that is not what i heard whoa uh who do you think it is it's feedback it's a ghost
23:36uh it was it was a little clearer down the hallway show me officer
23:44so we're just gonna give up on tim and lucy then how long have we been in here
23:52this room yeah i don't know we've been here for a while right
23:57yeah i mean i don't mind i feel good like really good
24:07do you think we've been drugged oh the wet walls we touched them yeah i hate making mistakes in front of
24:17you oh you've never admitted that before truth serum sodium pentothyl yeah you know what we
24:29we should keep quiet until this wears off no yeah no better for us no what is um your most embarrassing
24:38memory memory i mean third grade i snuck my hamster into my classroom in my pants
25:00with that kind of dad you internalize the message that if you fail you deserve to be punished
25:07and without him to punish me i i guess i punished myself by breaking up with me yep
25:15i mean it's kind of flattering right it's the worst thing i could think to do to myself you didn't
25:21punish just yourself though i know and look if you never fully forgive me i totally understand i have
25:29already forgiven you i wonder when that happened you can't put that in the documentary the lapd makes
25:43all body cam footage available to the public this is obviously an exception we were drugged people
25:49people say all sorts of things when they've been drugged so you didn't mean what you said
25:52what about the potential baby name she discussed we're done here yeah why do we keep agreeing to do
25:59this i don't know excuse me okay you have to admit that's a voice asking for help yeah sure i heard
26:05but it's one of their crew members or something pre-recorded were you a patient here is the demon
26:10with you somebody covered up a door what year did you die
26:20step back guys okay
26:21watch out ready go oh wow
26:36i've been trapped in here for so long i thought i was gonna die thank you oh my god what is this room
26:42okay but why did they wall it all off to trap the demon yeah bartleby the terrifying demon king of
26:48paperwork how did you get down here i was exploring following this this weird beautiful noise when all
26:57of a sudden it got cold like so so cold and i could feel something coming after me and i was scared so i
27:04hid behind a cabinet but the floor was wet and rusted and collapsed i couldn't climb back out you fell
27:10from there are you okay i think i twisted my ankle but i feel no pain you've been missing for two weeks how
27:16the hell did you survive i had a bunch of trail mix in my bag plus i found like this ancient water jug
27:27in one of the cabinets plus bob bob had power bars bob had power bars bob oh oh god if it wasn't for bob
27:37i would have lost my mind down here don't be shy bob say hello
27:46abigail was safe and uh considering what she'd been through uh relatively healthy except for her mental
27:54state that did pose some questions at first i was angry you know like we're stuck down here together at
28:02least try and have a conversation and then i realized bob's just shy he's just shy and there's
28:08nothing wrong with that right right did you believe she'd had a demonic encounter she went in perfectly
28:15sane and came out best friends with the corpse that's how possession works you can't rule out demons yes you
28:22can nolan look at this six six six just like zuzu said it was a weird coincidence it was a weird
28:36coincidence we found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system i don't do drugs does pot count no we're
28:44talking about powerful hallucinogens i'm not hallucinating ask bob i had them run the test twice
28:53and we found a similar cocktail in officer chen and sergeant bradford mercifully none of the drugs were
28:59fat soluble otherwise department policy would have forced sergeant bradford and officer chin into medical
29:06retirement is that what killed bob whatever drug they were exposed to no he was shot six times in the
29:13chest did you get an id on the body his name was bob medina a friend reported him missing about six
29:18months ago he was a private investigator what was his connection to the hospital at first we couldn't
29:23find one so to be clear there was now a third killer associated with that location at this point it can't
29:29be a coincidence there has to be something about that facility that drives people towards homicide uh
29:34that's a stretch and a half westview is a hospital for the mentally ill and the criminally insane
29:39novak was a patient glass was there looking for a patsy and whoever killed bob saw an abandoned
29:44building was like that's a perfect place to dump a body what or there was some dark energy that drew
29:52evil to it you really believe that i'm catholic i was raised on demons in the battle against satan's
29:58minions well i was raised on the scientific method okay so if it's also explainable spend the night
30:04there i dare you pass you're scared no i'm not scared one could argue the drugs in the hospital
30:13are hardly surprising even hallucinogens over the decades they have been used in experimental medicine
30:18no true uh just the the type and volume is what's set up what are you doing conducting an interview
30:24could you please come back in like an hour you said you'd talk to me for my documentary you have a
30:29documentary well it's my story who better to tell it well no problem i i can sit down with you just
30:34as soon as we're done here i wish it has to be exclusive you can't do both she's right it has to
30:40be exclusive either you're doing my doctor you're doing hers and we have a long history i was almost
30:44his daughter-in-law so suck it i'm gonna have to go with her i'm sorry seriously i i have a bafta
30:54okay fine let's wrap it up this way the set's this way it's better lighting over there we got a great team
31:00um we are gonna need our mic back yes oh yeah of course we have our own sorry i'll i'll see you
31:06guys around good luck what else i found inside the secret lab oh right well uh you you did find some
31:13paperwork explosive paperwork evidence of a secret government program close the door softly please
31:20well i don't know that we can say that for sure oh we could
31:23my name is abigail tierney i'm currently trapped inside a secret lab at westview psychiatric
31:31all attempts at escape have proven fruitless if i'm gonna die here i leave you this footage along
31:37with my in-process documentary as evidence of my hunt for the truth about the evils that inhabit this
31:43occurs in place that's when i realized i'd uncovered something more haunting than any ghost or serial
31:56killer i'd uncovered a conspiracy that went to the very highest levels of our government
32:03the government files abigail found detailed classified plans and methods for human experimentation
32:11what type of experimentation are you familiar with mk ultra of course it was a top secret cia
32:17program in the 50s and 60s using experimental drugs to aid in interrogation techniques it was straight
32:22up mind control i mean they used high doses of psychoactive drugs like lsd sodium pentothal which
32:28is also known as a truth serum the program ran from 1953 to 1973 before it was shut down following
32:36a public outcry i mean all the facilities were closed there's no evidence the cia
32:41ever used westview as a base of operations so what were top secret mk ultra documents doing there
32:46good question we started digging into the trova files abigail had found and one name kept popping up
32:52again and again dr julius erickson he was one of these psychologists contracted by the cia to conduct
32:59experimental research and after mk ultra shut down he took a new job director of westview dr erickson
33:07ran the hospital for 20 years and from the notes we uncovered it seems clear he continued his own
33:13research in private trying to use the psychological breakthroughs from mk ultra to further his own
33:18research into mind-altering drugs i assume he used those drugs on westview patients yeah at first but
33:24then he started using them on himself believing he had found the key to improving his own mind he hadn't
33:29and in a last moment of lucidity erickson decided to destroy his research he dumped the chemicals
33:35outside the building where they started to slowly seep into the structure and some of the drugs were
33:39potent enough to be absorbed simply by touch even when diluted erickson committed himself to westview
33:45shortly after never said another word he died in 2020 did the cia ever find out what erickson was doing
33:52not that we found but it's not like the agency ever returns our phone calls
33:57anyone who studied the past knows that the cia has a history of violent cover-ups mk ultra might
34:05have become public but that doesn't mean there still aren't secrets to protect by uncovering dr erickson's
34:11connection to westview and uh discovering bob's body i've put myself in danger but the best way to
34:18protect yourself is with the truth which brings me to carolyn mcgrath turns out carolyn is the one who hired
34:25bob to go to westview and i need to find out why before it's too late
34:41what the hell we got lucky a woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion and filmed abigail's
34:49abduction thanks to them we were able to track the vehicle where'd it go back to where it all began
34:53westfield
35:01police drop the weapon on the ground hands on your head turn around walk towards my partner hands behind
35:09your back you okay yeah totally fine carl's going through it though yeah i never really even knew my
35:16mother does anyone really what is going on here well uh my friend carl here was being pressured into
35:22killing me um but then we got to talking right yeah and i couldn't yeah okay but pressure by who
35:29um my boss meg davidson who the current director at westview psychiatric
35:38but she started working at the hospital long after julius erickson went mad and she has no links to the cia
35:44so why would she try to kill abigail to cover up bob's murder and who killed bob can you introduce
35:50yourself oh yes my name is carolyn mcgrath you hired my friend bob medina because you had questions
35:57about your friend winona's treatment at westview right yes of course everyone thought i was just
36:01being paranoid but bob didn't and it got him killed you work with winona baker right yes um she was
36:10hospitalized with depression by her daughter seemed like therapy and some medication would help her but
36:17winona got worse fast lost track of reality she exhibited signs of psychosis paranoia dissociation
36:26and by that point i wondered whether a transfer to a new facility might be in her best interest and
36:31then uh the director informed me that winona's family had gotten a judge to order a conservatorship
36:38and they wanted her to stay for good you were suspicious winona always had her funks but she
36:44wasn't crazy until that place made her lose her mind and that proved to be the break you needed
36:50yeah when we started looking into it it turned out a significant number of westview patients were
36:56wealthy and a high percentage were ordered into conservatorship no uh conservatorship is extremely
37:02difficult to get for an adult because of the potential abuse of power it gives one party legal
37:07authority over certain aspects of another person's life including managing all their assets it's like
37:12what happened to britney spears manage their assets rich person speak for controlling someone else's money
37:18yes and money makes people do crazy things like um poison their family members water with a chemical
37:26cocktail so potent it has a potential to permanently damage the human psyche
37:33yeah just like that i was supposed to inherit but um after my break with reality my dad cut me off and
37:44uh my brother got everything what's everything oh about um 12 million dollars must have been hard
37:49going from that kind of wealth to nanny oh no no it was a blessing i i really think that helping
37:56children was my calling once we found the pattern we started interviewing some of the families a little
38:03pressure and they cracked and with the search warrant we found the gun used to kill bop adina and director
38:08davidson's closet she'd been running her scam for a decade turns out she was dr erickson's therapist
38:14in the last years of his life he must have told her about his experiments in exploring his old lab she'd
38:22uncovered the tainted water realized its potential yeah we had her on murder fraud elder abuse kidnapping
38:29attempted murder poisoning miss davidson would you like to make a comment
38:33you know this might be your last chance to tell your side of the story
38:39look at all these people watching the state ordered a full investigation into every conservatorship
38:45westview ordered god willing the victims will get their rights and assets back and westview itself
38:51has been closed for good but the lawsuits are just starting not to mention the rest of the legal
38:56ramifications i'm glad this is getting so much attention these poor abused patients can finally get
39:03justice do you think it could impact your case at all certainly it gives my defense a fresh coat of
39:08paint the jury won't listen to reason because i am innocent perhaps they will listen to the tragic
39:15story of a simple tradesman falling victim to a poisoned environment that chemically affected my psyche
39:23and what did that environment make you do who can say certainly not me i i wasn't in my right mind
39:33yeah the um the poisoned water was only found in the abandoned psych ward no vending machines left to
39:39fill there right at this point i must confess i did go inside that abandoned ward back when i was a kid
39:48my father's warnings they didn't scare me away they only made me more desperate to see that whatever lurked
39:55inside must have infected me
40:05glasser's claiming that the presence of those drugs would absolve him of any alleged responsibility
40:10for the murders there is no way that defense is going to work we have glasser dead to rights are you sure
40:15about that hey hey sorry i know we talked about me not recording interviews in here but raj mentioned
40:37he needed a space with great acoustics and um and you know we're acting we're shutting it down we're
40:42shutting it down shut it shut it shutting it down copy hi sorry she said this was cool you're gonna
40:49help me get these in the van yeah i'll i'll be right there next time handcuffs and squad cars yeah totally
40:57understandable thanks again for going exclusive with me seriously this talk is going to be huge
41:04i hope so you deserve something good after what you've been through how you holding up oh i'm fine i'm
41:11happy to have something to focus on when i've been through some scary times i have been guilty of
41:17using my work as my therapy but if there's ever a time you need someone to talk to thank you really
41:23but i already have a great therapist one with zero history at westview excellent
41:30you know there's still something i can't figure out how did you know that the pi was working for
41:36caroline mcgrath oh bob told me while we were stuck in the lab he got chatty once he opened up i have
41:43that effect on people we had to come back because our job isn't finished this hospital has housed killers
41:51evil experiments and perhaps the supernatural our job as investigators is to collect and present questions
41:57and possibilities interpretation however solely belongs with you did westview really
42:10should we should we check that out i might be good you know what me too
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