A shocking road rage incident between a FedEx and UPS driver quickly spirals out of control, forcing police to step in. Bodycam footage reveals how a simple delivery rivalry turned into a heated clash on the streets. Watch the chaos unfold in this unbelievable moment of driver meltdown and instant police response.
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00:00All right, are you unbuckled?
00:03All right, open your door with your left hand.
00:05Hey, both hands out, hey.
00:07All right, with your hands out, go ahead and open your door.
00:10There you go, there you go.
00:11Open it up for me.
00:13Come on, come on.
00:14Walk back up, let's go.
00:16Face away from me, face away from me.
00:18Back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up.
00:27Appreciate your cooperation.
00:29All right, bend up, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine.
00:31Wherever you need me.
00:32All right, we're going back up, we're going back up.
00:33Yes, sir.
00:34Wherever you need me.
00:39My wife is in the back left seat.
00:40Okay, so there's two more occupied?
00:42Yeah, my brother.
00:43Okay, do you have any weapons on you?
00:44No, we called about him having the weapon.
00:45All right.
00:46Have a seat.
00:49All right.
00:50You, keep your hands up, come out of the vehicle.
00:53Just him, the driver in the box truck.
00:55I'm going to get you if you have any problems.
00:57We call him, sir.
00:58We're doing everybody, just to be sure.
00:59Okay, we're going to get you.
01:01Hopefully not.
01:02All right.
01:03Driver in the box truck, come on out.
01:05Keep your hands up.
01:06Not you in the truck, the box truck.
01:09Face away, face away, face away, face away.
01:15All right, you got commands.
01:17You got him.
01:18Turn around.
01:19I got that.
01:20Come on back.
01:21I'm armed.
01:22I have no problem.
01:23Okay, all right, all right.
01:24This is my phone right here, officer.
01:25All right, all right, all right.
01:26Why am I being in cuffs?
01:27No, you're just being detained right now.
01:28All we got is information about somebody with a gun, okay?
01:30Yes, I have a firearm in this, sir.
01:31Okay.
01:32Yeah, there's...
01:33Two more occupants in the F-150.
01:36I have a firearm.
01:37Okay.
01:38Stay where you are!
01:42Why am I being in cuffs, officer?
01:43You're just being detained for the safety of everybody involved, okay?
01:45Okay, okay, all right, I understand.
01:47I called you guys.
01:48Okay, we're just doing everybody, okay?
01:49Because we want to make sure that everybody's safe.
01:50You can sit right here.
01:52If you look on that, um, right by my driver's seat.
01:54Yeah, the driver of the box truck, there's still two people in there.
01:57I have my firearm right there.
01:58By your driver's?
01:59Yes, sir.
02:00Okay, all right, thank you.
02:01All right, passenger in the front, come on out, hands up.
02:04It's loaded.
02:05Okay, is there one in the pipe?
02:06Yes, sir.
02:07Okay, all right.
02:09Unlock the door!
02:10Yes, sir.
02:13I called you guys.
02:14Okay, we have to do this the right way.
02:16Come on back.
02:17All right, got him.
02:18Turn around.
02:19Keep walking towards us.
02:21He has an empty holster in his waistband.
02:23Yeah.
02:24I'm out of, uh, cuffs.
02:27I have no firearm on me.
02:29The ID is in my right pocket.
02:30Okay, appreciate that.
02:31Okay.
02:32We called because this gentleman was going, Randy's going to fire him.
02:34Are you there, okay?
02:36Tiny, she has to climb over from the back seat.
02:38That's fine, we saw that.
02:39Can I ask why we're all being put in handcuffs?
02:41Everybody's being placed in cuffs right now.
02:43This is a felony stop, okay?
02:44Okay.
02:45Can I ask why it's a felony stop?
02:47It's because of the threat.
02:48Okay, okay.
02:49No problem, no problem.
02:50Ma'am, come on out!
02:52Hands up!
02:53Come on!
02:54I'm going to let you sit in here with him because you all know each other.
02:57This is my brother.
02:58This is my younger brother.
02:59What's up?
03:00I don't understand why we're in cuffs right now.
03:01You mind turning around?
03:02Right now, we're just detaining people, okay?
03:04No one else?
03:05No one else?
03:06I'm sorry about that.
03:07Everybody is in cuffs right now because this is a- this is-
03:11Because we both people called, okay?
03:13Okay.
03:14Okay.
03:15Stop, stop, stop.
03:17Stop.
03:18You should have seen it when he was back then.
03:19Okay, we're not- we're not doing this right this second, okay?
03:22Give us a second while we sort everything out.
03:24You have an outburst.
03:25It does not help any of the situation, okay?
03:27Okay.
03:28You have any weapons on you?
03:29Okay.
03:30I know, that's what- right, exactly.
03:33Because if I have to go into that car for a weapon, and we don't know what your mindset
03:37is, and my back is turning, and you decide to shoot me in my back-
03:39I got you.
03:40I got you.
03:41I got you.
03:42I got you.
03:43Stop, turn around, put your butt back on this bumper, okay?
03:46We're not doing this nonsense.
03:48Here.
03:49Go to Tuskegee.
03:50Get over, you're both are going to be right here.
03:53And you're going to be civil, and ignore each other.
03:56Understand?
03:57Can you do me a favor?
03:58Where the bandaid is on my nose, just rub it slightly.
04:01Okay.
04:02Uh-huh.
04:03You got that one?
04:04Yeah.
04:11Clear.
04:12Clear.
04:13There's a gun right here.
04:15Back of the box, Drugs-Cempsie.
04:276-1 Central, I have a serial for a 10-32.
04:29Bravo.
04:30Is that my gun?
04:31Yeah, they have to unload it.
04:42I don't know why this even came to us.
04:44It's definitely going to be easier for y'all to get here.
04:49It came to y'all because it was to enter a loop.
04:51That's millage.
04:53All the white people are in the black picket truck.
04:56And the gentleman right there was in the box truck.
04:59And he had the gun.
05:03He has the holter on him.
05:04You got the fray and drowns.
05:06Huh? No, it was in the seat.
05:08It was over the seat.
05:09Yeah.
05:10All right, come on.
05:12Yes, sir.
05:13I took it out.
05:15Okay, that's fine.
05:16We still have to run it.
05:17Anytime there's a gun involved, we have to run it.
05:19My shoulder.
05:20Sorry.
05:21I apologize.
05:22No, no, no, you're fine.
05:23All right, come on.
05:24We're going to go over here.
05:26You can turn around.
05:27You move me wherever you want me.
05:28Okay.
05:29All right.
05:31What's your name?
05:32I'm Joshua.
05:33I'm Josh.
05:34Okay.
05:35All right.
05:36So, yeah, well, we'll see.
05:37Did we get your ID yet?
05:38No, sir.
05:39Is it in the vehicle?
05:40It should be.
05:41It should be in my wallet somewhere.
05:42Phone.
05:43Two phones.
05:44My wallet should be somewhere.
05:45Okay.
05:49I'm going to take him out so I can question him without having to read him, I think.
05:53I mean, he's in the truck, right?
05:55Yeah, he was in the truck.
05:56He's all right, yeah.
05:57This is just all a, uh.
06:00I wouldn't call it misunderstanding.
06:01No, I'm not going to say misunderstanding.
06:02This is just all a abundance of caution.
06:04Everybody out in the gym.
06:05Yeah.
06:06No, it's all right.
06:07I understand.
06:08I've seen plenty of videos.
06:09You guys need to be safe.
06:10Better to escalate a little bit just to keep everybody safe than have to escalate higher
06:14later.
06:15I won't name any names, but I have friends with police officers.
06:16All right.
06:17Anyway, so who called us?
06:19I called.
06:20Okay.
06:21May I explain?
06:22Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
06:23I just went back to my brother and my brother's in-laws.
06:26Okay.
06:27And they're not talking to me.
06:29Okay.
06:30Like I said, they're talking to each person individually.
06:32You just have to wait your turn.
06:33Do you know where the road work is down the, uh, bridge down there where it all closes
06:38into one?
06:39Well, we're not too far from it closing in.
06:41And this guy honks on his gas and tries.
06:43I can see him coming from far off trying to get around me.
06:45So I just kind of go into the other lane and I say, hey, you know, it's not available.
06:49Let's, let's.
06:50And he keeps up right behind me.
06:51I try to get out of his way.
06:52You're on the inner, in the inner.
06:53You're coming.
06:54So you're on this.
06:55Okay.
06:56Okay.
06:57All right.
06:58And what the problem was, he was going to turn around and start.
06:59He was trying to come up beside me.
07:00I kind of, I kind of threw it out.
07:01I was like, hey man, there's not enough.
07:02The right lane's open right now, isn't it?
07:03I'm not sure.
07:04No, it, it closes up.
07:05I think it's still closing down to one lane.
07:07Right.
07:08That's what I'm saying.
07:09They switched it a while ago.
07:10To the one lane.
07:11Was it, there is a right lane open right now or the left lane?
07:12It's all, it turns into one lane.
07:13Right.
07:14What I'm saying is that the Athens tech and everything, and you get to that light, it
07:18starts to veer down into one lane.
07:19Right.
07:20Under the overpass.
07:21That's right.
07:22Because that's where they're doing the work.
07:23Trying to, trying to get in front of him.
07:24Okay.
07:25So he's trying to pass you in the left lane?
07:26And I, I do.
07:27I swing my car.
07:28Hey, let's not do that.
07:29Not aggressively, because he's far enough behind me.
07:30He's like, where your cop car is back there.
07:31Okay.
07:32So he's like, good warning.
07:33Like, hey, there's not enough room.
07:34And he zooms up behind me.
07:35And as we get through that stuff.
07:38Right.
07:39It opens back up.
07:40I let my window down.
07:41I'm like, please.
07:42You know, you're alive now.
07:43Please go ahead.
07:44Okay.
07:45Okay.
07:46He's all mad and, you know, pointing his finger at me like, pull over.
07:47Pull over.
07:48I'm like, I was like, dude, what are we doing here?
07:50So we, we go over and, and I get in the other lane and he points a gun at my brother.
07:54I didn't see it at first.
07:55But he points it like through his arm to show that he has it.
07:57He's pointing, you know, like this.
07:58I'm like, what the?
07:59And they upset me.
08:00So I was like, pull over.
08:01I'm calling the police.
08:02So we pull over.
08:03He pulls over with me.
08:04He has the gun still.
08:06Like, what do you want to do?
08:07I'm like, what's going on?
08:08Um, okay.
08:09So she is the, I want to involve with the other party.
08:12Can we pull her away from, from our suspect, please?
08:14That's my wife.
08:15Yeah.
08:16Yeah.
08:17What's your wife's name?
08:18Leslie.
08:19Let's separate.
08:20Leslie.
08:21What was your name, sir?
08:22Chris.
08:23Date of birth.
08:24What's your name, ma'am?
08:25Uh, date of birth.
08:26Can I please get the customer move?
08:27No.
08:28No, not right now.
08:29Why not?
08:30Because you're being detained.
08:31For what?
08:32You're the one who called.
08:33You tell me.
08:34So why am I being detained?
08:35Everybody's being detained.
08:36Every single person is in handcuffs.
08:37But I'm just trying to figure out why specifically me.
08:38Because there's a gun involved.
08:39That's confiscated that you have.
08:40Yeah.
08:41And you're being detained.
08:42So is she.
08:43So are they.
08:44So stop.
08:45Okay.
08:46I'm just asking the question.
08:47Why am I being detained?
08:48Everybody is being detained.
08:49We're trying to figure out what's going on.
08:50Do I have to be in handcuffs?
08:51Yes.
08:52That's what being detained is.
08:53It's in handcuffs.
08:54So basically it was him being upset that we didn't let him get in front of us during
09:01that obstruction.
09:02Okay.
09:03Did he ever point at you or just your brother?
09:04He pointed at my brother.
09:05But then when we stopped here, he wanted to show me.
09:07He's like, no, I pointed it like this.
09:09I'm like, dude, you're, you're.
09:10I mean, it could go through your arm.
09:11He was brandishing.
09:12And I saw it.
09:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:14It fits in the side of his hand.
09:15And that's when I decided to call the police.
09:16Because up until this point, it was just road rage.
09:18Yeah.
09:19And I could just let that go.
09:20I'm a UPS driver.
09:21I don't need anything on my license.
09:22So I just.
09:23Are you able to give me a rundown of kind of what happened?
09:25Or what you're aware of what happened?
09:27I mean, I know that you, were you sitting in the back seat?
09:29I was in the back seat.
09:30So I didn't have like an actual.
09:32Yeah.
09:33Okay.
09:34Okay.
09:35I was in the back seat again with my phone, Facebook, parents, that sort of thing.
09:38I know when we were coming from 29 where the bridge work is and it narrows into one lane.
09:43Okay.
09:44Very little space.
09:45He, he was trying to get around us.
09:47But there wasn't enough room with the speed that we were going.
09:50So we sped up to allow for the room to hide us.
09:53And he continuously tried to dark around us during that stuff.
09:57So that frustrated my husband and my brother-in-law.
10:01And there were some hand signals thrown as far as pull over, like take care of us sort of thing.
10:06Was that coming from kind of both sides?
10:08Both sides.
10:09I let it go.
10:10Yeah, yeah.
10:11I feel that.
10:12I feel that.
10:13And I thought he was a FedEx driver.
10:14I thought he pulled his FedEx driver shirt off.
10:15I took a picture of his, uh, the, uh, 904 number there.
10:17So I was going to call his boss and just let him know he was driving like .
10:20Okay.
10:21Yeah.
10:22Okay.
10:23And I was just like, what the hell?
10:24Okay.
10:25I'm right here.
10:26I'm good.
10:27No, you're fine.
10:28Yeah, you're good, man.
10:29I'm going to tell you again.
10:30You've been told multiple times.
10:31You are being detained.
10:32Okay.
10:33Stop moving around.
10:34I can't.
10:35My nerves.
10:36This is nerve wracking.
10:37You need to stop.
10:38Stop what?
10:39I'm telling you my nerves.
10:40Okay.
10:41You move around.
10:42Does that help in your case?
10:43So stop.
10:44Okay?
10:45I just got threatened and you want me to be calm and collective.
10:47Stop.
10:48Appreciate you.
10:49I'm sorry, brother.
10:50No, it's not your fault, man.
10:51It's all right.
10:52It's not your fault, man.
10:53It's not your fault.
10:54Everybody stop.
10:55Okay?
10:56Okay.
10:57Take it out.
10:58Everybody stand.
10:59Take it out.
11:00Take it out.
11:01Take it out.
11:02When did you see that?
11:07Um, the last time I saw it, we were already pulled.
11:10So were y'all in like the left lane and then he's kind of.
11:12We were already pulled over whenever I saw it.
11:14Okay.
11:15When you saw it pulled over it, when he pulled back up, he's kind of like this.
11:19Look, I still got it.
11:20Yeah.
11:21Okay.
11:22And he started to yell that it was for his protection.
11:24They yelled saying we didn't have a weapon.
11:27That sort of thing.
11:29Hey, this is going pretty smooth and everybody's okay.
11:31Nobody's hurt.
11:32Like I said, this is, a lot of people don't understand that the more cops that show up,
11:36the better.
11:37Yeah.
11:38And one of the things that you learn is that a force faster like this keeps everybody safe.
11:43No, it does.
11:44It does.
11:45I understand what you did.
11:46Yeah.
11:47Cause I don't know exactly what's going on.
11:48Cause it comes out of a different side of town.
11:49And so I'm wearing on footnotes and you guys have your hands out the, uh, out the window.
11:52Oh, great.
11:53There's y'all are the ones with the guns and I'm trying to get y'all.
11:55Cause that's what I.
11:56It's okay.
11:57I just always taught an officer needs to see your hands.
11:58Period.
11:59Especially nowadays with all the confusion.
12:01I just don't agree with it, man.
12:02Ever since I was a young child, I've always put, every time I got pulled over,
12:05my hands go right up the window.
12:06Usually my windows go all the way down.
12:08Yeah.
12:09Or you can just leave it on the steering wheel.
12:10You know, otherwise it can escalate a little bit like, Oh, why do you see his hands out
12:13the window?
12:14You just gotta walk in our shoes.
12:15I want to get pulled over so they can see me anytime.
12:17Yeah.
12:18Anyway, uh, you can turn.
12:19You're good.
12:20Y'all just relax.
12:21Just take a breath.
12:22We're okay here.
12:23Y'all are the victims.
12:24We're trying to get your statements.
12:25Now in your own words, nothing about what he said.
12:26What happened?
12:27We're taking the engine lift back to my animals.
12:28Yeah.
12:29Has a bigger trailer than me.
12:30I jumped in with him this morning.
12:31So we're taking down there and said, that's fine.
12:32Uh, we started coming around the 10 loop at about Athens tech past the light right there
12:37where the lanes merge.
12:38Uh, gentleman was kind of beside or behind us.
12:41Then he tried to get up beside us and there was not enough room.
12:43So my brother was like, Hey, he sped up a little bit.
12:44He's like, Hey, you know what are you doing?
12:45Yeah.
12:46I mean, this gentleman got really, really upset and irate with us.
12:48We went through that area and then he came up around us and was like, what?
12:51Who the f*** over?
12:52Who the f*** over?
12:53Y'all want to do something?
12:54So he was definitely instigating it.
12:55And then from there.
12:56Wait, was he, was he talking through his passenger window or his passenger window at first?
13:00Cause you were on the right.
13:01Cause y'all were on his right.
13:02Huh?
13:03Weren't you on his passenger side?
13:04No, we were on the right side at first until, until you come out to where it beers from the,
13:08Okay.
13:09So coming out of the bottleneck.
13:10Coming out of the bottleneck.
13:11We were in the right lane.
13:12He was in the left hand lane.
13:13So he's yelling through his passenger window at y'all.
13:14He's yelling through his passenger window at y'all.
13:15He's yelling through his passenger window.
13:16He's going to pull over, you know, pull the f*** over.
13:17You can see what he's mouthing and everything.
13:18He's obviously angry.
13:19Yeah.
13:20I'm going to work on a Sunday.
13:21I'm sorry.
13:22But then we go around him cause he acted like he was going to get off at College Circle
13:25or College Station, the last one down here.
13:26We come around him and at that point in time when I pass him, he's doing this number
13:30right here with a pistol.
13:31I'm like, what the f***?
13:32So he's up with his left hand?
13:33With his, with his, with his left hand.
13:35So he's pointing at you like.
13:36Right.
13:37Sorry, it's right here.
13:38That's what I'm trying to understand.
13:39If y'all are on his, uh.
13:40He was on his right.
13:41He was on our left hand side after that point in time.
13:42Until that, until I saw the gun, he was on our, he was on our left.
13:46On your left.
13:47And then he veered over like he was going to get off on College Station.
13:49So he ends up on the other side.
13:50Okay.
13:51On the other side of us.
13:52All right.
13:53And where, how far back was it back here?
13:54I mean, how far away did he pull the gun on me?
13:55Yeah.
13:56How far, where did this happen at?
13:57About midway from here to the College Station exit.
13:59Okay.
14:00After the bridge, after the bridge.
14:01He was pointing it at you.
14:02After the bridge.
14:03Definitely.
14:04He was like, try me, try me.
14:05He said that.
14:06Yeah.
14:07I can see his lip in it.
14:08Okay.
14:09Were you, were you scared?
14:10Were you afraid?
14:11Were you afraid that he was going to shoot you?
14:12Yeah.
14:13At one point in time.
14:14All right.
14:15All right.
14:16I don't know what's going to people think nowadays.
14:17Yeah.
14:18Hi.
14:19Hi.
14:20You all right?
14:21You want to tell me what happened?
14:22Just that at 29 where it merges where the bridge work is, it got a little hostile
14:27because he kept trying to go around us with no room available.
14:30So we sped up to allow him space behind us.
14:33He got mad, tried to come around us again.
14:35Obviously there was no space.
14:36Yeah.
14:37So we kind of forced him in behind us so that there was no cut off as it was narrowing.
14:44And from there it escalated a little bit.
14:46Then we thought it kind of calmed down.
14:48We were all going in the same direction, but nothing was happening.
14:51And then all of a sudden he got irate again.
14:53Yeah.
14:54And came up alongside of us.
14:56I didn't see the gun at first until just a few moments later.
15:00And I saw after we pulled over, when my husband had gotten on the phone with 911, he had pulled
15:05the gun again under his arm.
15:07And who was he pointed at?
15:08He was just pointing it in the direction of the passenger in the truck.
15:11Who's the passenger?
15:12My brother.
15:13That's your brother or mom?
15:14That's the general direction that he was.
15:15But you saw it?
15:16Yes, sir.
15:17Okay.
15:18What color was it?
15:19Black.
15:20Okay.
15:21Black.
15:22Small.
15:23Man, you got it down right, didn't you?
15:25What lane were you in?
15:26What direction did you have?
15:27All right.
15:28I'm coming down tire place.
15:29You know that lane merges into it, correct?
15:31Yeah.
15:32Where they have the, uh?
15:33Yeah.
15:34Okay.
15:35So you're on 29 coming south?
15:36Right.
15:37Okay.
15:38So I go over to the left lane.
15:39I attempt to go over to the left lane.
15:40Did you have your blinker on?
15:41I can't recall.
15:42Did y'all read him?
15:45Did you read him his rights?
15:47No, no.
15:48All right.
15:49That's fine.
15:50All right.
15:51Before you continue.
15:52Before you do this.
15:53This is because you're detained.
15:54That's a cover all bases.
15:55Okay?
15:56You're not under arrest.
15:57You're just being detained like I said.
15:58This just covers all bases.
16:00Give you the opportunity.
16:01Do you have a gun in your car?
16:02No, sir.
16:03Okay, cool.
16:04Do you mind if I just?
16:05Yeah, of course.
16:06Thanks.
16:12Do you want to talk on your side?
16:16What are we going from here?
16:17Am I getting arrested?
16:18No, I just need your sense.
16:19Oh, all right.
16:20So I'm not being arrested, right?
16:21You're just detained.
16:22Like I said, you're just detained.
16:23There are no arrests as of this week.
16:24We're just trying to get everybody's story to figure out exactly what happens.
16:27Can I get the cuff off of your case?
16:29I can't do that right now.
16:30Everybody's being detained so I have to keep your cuff until they figure out exactly what happens.
16:34Okay.
16:35So, all right.
16:36Back to what I was saying.
16:37The what?
16:38The Cobra?
16:39Was it working?
16:40No, sir.
16:41I'm so sorry.
16:42It's all right.
16:43You're on 29 South.
16:44You passed.
16:45You're going to the, um.
16:47I'm trying to get down to get onto this highway here, correct?
16:50All right.
16:51So you're trying to?
16:52Right.
16:53And then the lane turns into one lane, right?
16:55Okay.
16:56So as I'm merging to the left, because I'm in the right lane, I'm merging to the left.
17:01Uh, no one's behind me.
17:02So I don't, like I said, I don't know if I have my blink on or not, but this driver here swerves,
17:06which is big train of swerves.
17:07Were they behind you?
17:08In front of me the whole time.
17:09Were they behind you?
17:10In front of me the whole time.
17:11They were in front of you the left?
17:12Yeah.
17:13Swerves to the left.
17:14So I'm behind me.
17:15And I go back to the right lane.
17:17I'm like, oh, maybe he's trying to come over to the left lane.
17:19So I go to the right lane.
17:20And he swerves back into the right lane.
17:22So I'm like, okay, cool.
17:23We have to stop like that.
17:25After the stoplight, I merge to the left.
17:27And, like I said, I'm going to play out my blink on.
17:29And I, again, I was behind.
17:31And I'm coming down and he comes out in front of me again, deliberately.
17:34Like, I don't know if he's trying not to make me pass him or what.
17:38Deliberately comes in front of me.
17:39So at this point, I'm like, okay, cool.
17:41I go back behind him.
17:42And then after the traffic or where the homes are and stuff like that,
17:46the lane opens back up to two lanes.
17:48I go to the left lane.
17:50While I'm in the left lane, this motherfucker sees my lane.
17:53He pulls his, he buys one of them out, flicks me off.
17:56Mind you, I'm not even window to window with this man at this point.
18:00He's in front of me.
18:01He picks me off telling me what it's like doing hand gestures.
18:04I'll go out the window.
18:05So I do my hand.
18:06So you're in the standouts window?
18:07Yeah.
18:08I've got the driver side window flicking me off and doing all type of extra .
18:11So I literally, but I, because I do, I drive these trucks a lot.
18:14So I deal with this .
18:15I know how to handle it.
18:16So we get paid either way.
18:17Okay.
18:18So who pulled over first?
18:20When you pulled out the gun?
18:21I did.
18:22One second.
18:23One second.
18:24One second.
18:25That's it.
18:26I'm about to come right beside him.
18:27So when I pull up beside him, or on the verge of pull up beside him, he's going, he's going
18:30the window out.
18:31So I go, I put my fire on.
18:33I didn't been in these situations.
18:34I took my first, I've been in these situations.
18:36I pull my fire on and I keep it on my left.
18:38He wants the window down.
18:39He's like, pull over.
18:40He's telling him he's going like this.
18:42And we both literally pull over.
18:45Pulling over.
18:46I was like, I'm calling.
18:47I'm going to stop right here and call the police because like I was about to say to him.
18:50Was he behind you or in front of you?
18:51Up until that point.
18:52It was.
18:53You guys were parallel.
18:54Yeah.
18:55It was actually just kind of slowing down.
18:56Really?
18:57I didn't want to pull over at the bridge.
18:58Yeah.
18:59Past the bridge.
19:00Once I was on 911, I wanted to stop where I saw the good mile marker.
19:03So I just kept telling 911 lady, I'm in front of exit.
19:05I just kept saying, I'm in front of exit six.
19:06He's screaming.
19:07He's young man.
19:08I'm just like.
19:09He pulled over and still constantly aggressive towards us.
19:11You know, talking about get out.
19:12What you want to do?
19:13Yeah, we did.
19:14We both literally like pull over on the median.
19:16And I thought about it.
19:17And I said, you know what?
19:18I think it's a thing.
19:19But I'm not.
19:20I keep it.
19:21I keep driving.
19:22So you're pulling over to the median.
19:23No, we actually went into the median.
19:24Okay, so you stopped.
19:25Yeah.
19:26I technically did not stop.
19:27I don't know.
19:28Yeah, but we was in this right here in the median.
19:31I said, you know what?
19:32I'm not going to stop.
19:33I'm not going to entertain.
19:34My gun is still drunk on my lap.
19:36I'm not letting my gun go because I don't know what he got in his car.
19:39I don't know what they're planning on doing or whatever.
19:41So I then go back into the oncoming traffic and then he pulls up behind me again.
19:47Okay.
19:48I'm not sure I saw him in a FedEx out the vehicle.
19:50Well, he does have packages in the back of the vehicle.
19:52I think he's a FedEx gun.
19:53And follows, literally follows me.
19:55Literally, he's behind me.
19:56After he done told me to pull over, then he comes back into the traffic and follows me.
20:00And at that point, I put, at one point that I put my gun in their direction.
20:05I put it literally, I was like a shoulder.
20:07I put it in my arm, my bicep.
20:10So like, I kept it like on the window, in a sense.
20:13Like, just in case they were going to try to like shoot out the window.
20:16I kept it like to my side, in their direction.
20:19In case I had to use my plan.
20:21But not at one point in time that I put my pen up and pointed at him.
20:24Not at one point in time, but I...
20:26So, just so I'm clear, the barrel of the gun...
20:28It was in my, it was in my shoulder.
20:30I would have to shoot with my hand first.
20:32So you said it was on the frame?
20:33No, my bicep.
20:34You said it was on the window frame?
20:36Like it was situated on the window frame?
20:37Sure.
20:38Can you, I can show you.
20:40You'll behave.
20:44What was that?
20:45What was she looking for?
20:46Oh, we, the FedEx shirt.
20:48He had it on and he took it off.
20:50After showing the officers how he pointed the gun into his bicep,
20:53the officer begins to ask the genius why he thought that was a good idea.
20:57I didn't at one time go like this.
20:59I shoot a lot.
21:00I know how to aim a firearm.
21:02So you're telling me the barrel of the gun was underneath your arm gun?
21:05In my, in my bicep.
21:07Like this.
21:10In my bicep.
21:11I made specifically, I knew exactly what I was doing.
21:14In case they said I put a gun out on them.
21:16I would have to shoot through my hand.
21:17Why did you think that was a good idea?
21:19Driving down the road with lots of traffic around.
21:22No, I didn't.
21:23I was protecting myself.
21:24Okay.
21:25I understand that.
21:26But you're, you've not only have you, you have them.
21:28You also have in the wall.
21:29I know.
21:30I understand that.
21:31But did they want to present a gun to you?
21:32No, but they threatened me.
21:33I was threatened.
21:34Okay.
21:35I understand that.
21:36But at any point, did they pull any kind of weapon?
21:37Did they present it?
21:38Not that I've seen it.
21:39It's 10 of those.
21:40It was a good idea to pull a weapon.
21:41I was defending myself.
21:42I understand that.
21:43But if they are not presenting a weapon, why did you think it was a good idea?
21:46Because I was defending myself.
21:47That's how I, that's the only way to defend yourself.
21:50No, that's not the only way to defend yourself.
21:52Why did you not think to call 911 while they were doing that?
21:55At that, at that moment in time?
21:56When they, when they, when they're telling me.
21:58Stop, let me speak.
21:59From 29 to here, that's a good three to five miles.
22:02At any point in time, you could have called 911.
22:04Why did you not call 911?
22:05Why did you wait until this specific point to call 911?
22:09Because we pulled over and I waited and I sat here.
22:12So you thought it was an acceptable idea to pull out a firearm instead of
22:15plugging up your gun and calling 911 to say, this person.
22:18What's the right to be having my firearm and be able to carry my firearm?
22:21For reasons just like this.
22:23If I've ever presented a threat, I have to defend myself, correct?
22:26But they did not present it.
22:27They presented a threat to me.
22:28How, how are you going to tell me who the threat is?
22:30They literally tricked me off two people in one car.
22:32I'm by myself.
22:33People are allowed to do this.
22:34What do people want me on a front?
22:35And telling me to pull over to the media?
22:37That's a threat.
22:38You don't have to follow that.
22:39You can call 911 and say somebody is being reckless.
22:41But I'm asking you a question.
22:42Is that not a threat?
22:43It could be threatening, but it's not.
22:44Sure, it's threatening.
22:45That's, that's, that's what I'm saying.
22:46Let's see, they're not ramming your car.
22:47No, they're not.
22:48You're not presenting a weapon.
22:49So you pulling a weapon, you thought that was a positive idea?
22:52From my defense?
22:53Yes, ma'am.
22:54Yes, ma'am.
22:55People died literally in situations like this.
22:57Do you not see it?
22:58People died in road raid situations.
23:00But do you use the same situation?
23:02You pulled a firearm and presented it to them.
23:04I didn't present.
23:05No, I didn't present.
23:06Listen, listen.
23:07You may not have pointed it, directed it at them, but you presented a weapon.
23:10A weapon was shown.
23:11You understand this?
23:12What's, what's the crime there?
23:14You're presenting a weapon.
23:15What's the crime there?
23:16You have instigated it into a more detailed-
23:19I instigated it?
23:20Okay.
23:21If I just told you my story and you're telling me I instigated it, I literally-
23:23I think you need to start choosing your words carefully and explain exactly what your thought
23:26process will be like, right?
23:27To defend myself.
23:29That's all you're going to keep saying then?
23:30No, I don't understand what you want me to say.
23:32I'm confused.
23:33I'm literally trying to talk to you.
23:34I didn't do anything wrong other than I thought I was defending myself.
23:37No, and at the same time too, so they're on your left side?
23:41They're, they're on my right side.
23:42They're on your right side.
23:43They were always on, they was on my right side until-
23:45So when you, I'm talking about when you pulled over?
23:46Yeah, they was on my left side.
23:47Okay.
23:48So you took, alright.
23:49Yeah.
23:50So you got the gun like this.
23:51So they couldn't say I pointed at them.
23:52What I'm getting at is the barrel is still in your, in your bicep.
23:54Correct.
23:55But it's still facing towards them.
23:56No, cause I'm-
23:57It's facing other related traffic.
23:58Yeah, it wasn't-
23:59Well, and that, and that too.
24:00The traffic, it was literally down towards the floor.
24:02I didn't, like I said, I was leaning back.
24:04What she's getting to, and I ain't stepping on your toes.
24:06What she's getting to is, look where you're at.
24:10Yeah.
24:11Yeah, I wasn't gonna, I didn't fire my firearms.
24:13Nobody else seen my firearms.
24:14You've heard of accidental discharges, right?
24:16Yeah.
24:17So, other people there.
24:18I-
24:19So you have endangered every single person driving.
24:21I shoot my gun.
24:22I don't care if you've shot, okay?
24:23I literally have a membership.
24:25That doesn't matter.
24:26You have endangered every single person driving on that other lane of traffic.
24:29I didn't fire in my firearm.
24:30How did I endanger them?
24:31Just presenting it is a danger, is a danger to it.
24:34It's a danger to other people.
24:35So-
24:36You're on a main highway.
24:37Hold on.
24:38So, I thought the law was that you can actually have your firearm visible.
24:40You don't have to, you don't have to conceal your firearm.
24:42Not in your hand while you're driving.
24:43You can have a visible.
24:44Yeah.
24:45You can have, it can be sitting in your seat.
24:47It can sit in the back seat.
24:48Yeah.
24:49It's when you pointed at someone.
24:50If it was in your hand.
24:51Even if it was in your bicep.
24:53Mm-hmm.
24:54If you fired that, I want you to, I want you to think of a question.
24:57I want you to ask her a question.
24:58If you fired that at your bicep, do you think it's going to go straight through your bicep?
25:03It went straight through my bicep.
25:04Definitely.
25:05That's what she's getting to.
25:06No, I understand that part.
25:07But what I'm saying is that was never the point.
25:09And from where you're coming from, I see how you feel like you need to defend yourself.
25:14You got somebody shooting somebody birds and all this other stuff.
25:17I will tell you this, even in these cop cars, I'm in these cop cars.
25:21I got people shooting me birds on time.
25:22People don't like the police.
25:23Everybody knows that.
25:24Right.
25:25I can't do nothing about it.
25:26I can't.
25:27I can't do nothing about it either.
25:28Right.
25:29So the only thing I can do is defend myself, correct?
25:30So what it is, is we get this all the time.
25:32Not in this situation where people call in a reckless driver.
25:35If you say he was cutting you off trying to get, so you couldn't pass him.
25:39Right.
25:40Can I answer this?
25:41I'm sorry.
25:42No.
25:43Yep.
25:44You can call him back.
25:45A.B., come to my location.
25:47So, who is that?
25:48My partner.
25:49Okay.
25:50If he's trying to get in front of you where you can't go around him or whatever y'all
25:54was trying to do, we consider that reckless driving.
25:57Right.
25:58If you would have just called in, hey, this guy's doing this.
26:01This is the tag number.
26:02This is the description of the vehicle.
26:03We would have found the vehicle.
26:04You would have just went on your way.
26:05No, but I've been through this already.
26:06I deal with this.
26:07Literally.
26:08We've been through it too.
26:09Every day there's reckless drivers that come out.
26:11That's what I'm saying.
26:12But at the same time, I also see situations where reckless drivers are people who stay
26:15tight.
26:16And like I just told you.
26:18Like I just told you.
26:19I see where you're coming from.
26:20But also, she's not trying to make you look like the bad guy.
26:23She's just trying to explain like, hey, even though you didn't point it at nobody.
26:26I never pointed my hand.
26:27You never presented it and you had it in your arm.
26:29From my defense.
26:30If it accidentally went off, like you say, you shoot guns all the time.
26:32I do too.
26:33Right.
26:34Okay.
26:35But if it would have went off, it would have went straight to your bicep and right across
26:37the .
26:38That's all she's getting to.
26:39So I'm getting in trouble for her.
26:40Nobody say you're in trouble.
26:41Possibly.
26:42Nobody say you're in trouble.
26:43You're out of handcuffs.
26:44Like, I'm going to be honest with you.
26:46That's your firearm.
26:47You got a carrying permit?
26:48Yes, sir.
26:49Okay.
26:50Two.
26:51Okay.
26:52So you can legally carry that firearm and she took you out of handcuffs.
26:55Like, she must be very comfortable doing that.
26:57What I'm saying is that nobody's saying you're in trouble right now.
26:59They're just trying to find out what's going on.
27:01I'm not saying I don't believe you.
27:02I believe you.
27:03Even though you didn't present it.
27:04I was at the state head.
27:05That's what I'm saying.
27:06Even though you didn't present it, you didn't point it at nobody, all she was getting
27:10to was if it would have discharged, it would have went straight to her.
27:13Yeah.
27:14I understand that.
27:15I get that.
27:16And that's all she's getting to.
27:17Nobody said you was in trouble.
27:18She was just trying to find out what happened.
27:19I should have discharged that .
27:20Would I be wrong if I discharged her?
27:21Yes.
27:22Yes.
27:23Thank God you didn't.
27:24And he don't even know.
27:25He put me at the right day because I.
27:27Hey, man.
27:28It happens all the time.
27:29People argue all the time.
27:30People fight all the time.
27:31But yes, if you would have pulled that firearm out and shot him.
27:34I wanted to.
27:35I'm not going to say that because I know you're on camera.
27:37But I wanted to.
27:38Like.
27:39Right.
27:40Right.
27:41Thank God you didn't.
27:42I'm just going to say that.
27:43So you're going to take him?
27:44Yeah.
27:45Go ahead and call FedEx and see if they can have somebody come and get it.
27:47Yeah.
27:48Yeah.
27:49See what that might be.
27:50And then I get beside him.
27:51You know he does.
27:52Hey.
27:53Hey.
27:54Oh, I don't want no problem.
27:55Why didn't you do all this stuff like that if you don't want no problem?
27:57And then you got your girl in the back seat.
27:59Why?
28:00Why instigate all of this if you don't want no problem?
28:02Let's rearrest him.
28:03Pointing a pistol at another.
28:04Did you hear me say I didn't point it at that time?
28:05Yeah, you did.
28:06No, I didn't.
28:07Ow!
28:08Sir, you got a bracelet on.
28:09I'm sorry.
28:10You just put the out of me.
28:11Sir, you got a bracelet on.
28:12I'm trying to work around that, okay?
28:13Come on, please, sir.
28:14What's up?
28:15What's up?
28:16What's up?
28:17What's up?
28:18What's up?
28:19What's up?
28:20What's up?
28:21What's up?
28:22What's up?
28:23What's up?
28:24What's up?
28:25What's up?
28:26What's up?
28:27What's up?
28:28What's up?
28:29What's up?
28:30What's up?
28:31What's up?
28:32What's up?
28:33What's up?
28:34I understand this little road raid incidents that escalated quickly.
28:37I don't want me to go to jail.
28:38I don't want you to go to jail.
28:39I just want a firearm taken.
28:40Well, unfortunately, we can't confiscate firearms, okay?
28:43We can't confiscate firearms.
28:44No, there would have to be a reason for us to confiscate it.
28:47Unfortunately, with him pulling out a pistol, the code section is pointing a pistol at another.
28:52He's not only endangered y'all's lives if he had pulled that trigger.
28:55He's endangering everybody else on us.
28:57So we have to take that seriously, okay?
28:59If it was something where it was just on the seat and you happened to see it, you wasn't
29:03doing anything with it, okay, you know, you wouldn't be arrested just for physically
29:06possessing it.
29:07But the fact that you have a firearm, you're holding it in your arms while you're driving,
29:11and then it's pointed at people, that's where it becomes a concern.
29:14Because we've got three lives here as well as however many people.
29:17I don't want to ruin his life for a roadway engineer, lose his job for this or anything like that.
29:22And I understand that.
29:24I mean, it's just, you know.
29:25I understand that.
29:26It's just, it's, it's not, as an adult, you know, it's not acceptable.
29:29It's not acceptable.
29:30You know, you're endangering everybody, and God forbid, you know, he had pulled that trigger.
29:34How many people could have been hurt, you know, causing an accident.
29:37You shot the driver, anything like that?
29:38Exactly.
29:39You know, you've got them, and then the accident that ensues, and however many people else.
29:42You know, it's a busy time of day.
29:43Bye.
29:45Bye.
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