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00:00:00You
00:00:06Tonight part one of an unbelievable tell-all event. Let's pull a card for today
00:00:13Strength I'm definitely gonna need that today and no one is holding back
00:00:21Let's welcome Ashley and Chantel's mom Karen. I got a little present for you
00:00:26Take a lollipop. I thought I would give suckers to the suckers suckers to the suckers
00:00:32You are being a sucker. That's not friendly nor kind to do to your daughter. Who are you? Shut the hell up
00:00:38I don't care what you say
00:00:41She came here throwing suckers and shit. I'm about to crazy. Oh, I'm not getting crazy to try
00:00:49Courtney and Colt seems like trust is an issue. I come with trust issues built in okay
00:00:54I don't want you texting other women in my house
00:00:58Shit some girl sent him flowers. That's up
00:01:02Courtney I know I can offer you what Colt can never offer you. Wow
00:01:08Courtney does any part of you feel like you made the wrong decision
00:01:16It's so weird that you would tell Tiffany that you hooked up with Elise and then feel like she wasn't upset enough for your liking
00:01:22That's you want her to be more upset
00:01:25I'm telling you my my truth. Okay, so this is the problem Karlo
00:01:30You did talk shit and how you're fat and ugly right you're a dumb bitch
00:01:35I have been there for you, but you me and you her it's hurtful
00:01:41Guess what I want to do right now, bro is punch you in the face
00:01:46No
00:01:49There's been a lot of discussion going on about whether Rob and Jen had sex
00:01:52What is the next question like everybody wanted to know what happened with Rob and Jen
00:01:57That's not your business shut up. I think she's scared to face the music guys. Hold on. We want we want clarity. We have the clip. Oh
00:02:07Whatever everybody here
00:02:09All right
00:02:12It all starts
00:02:14Shit now
00:02:16Oh
00:02:33I'm always excited for a tell-all
00:02:36No idea what to expect
00:02:38There's no fighting for Jen when she picks Cole
00:02:41I'm definitely a better choice than Cole, but you know, maybe that's exactly what she needed
00:02:45I mean, it was a rejection and like it's unfortunate when something doesn't work out
00:02:53But going into this tell-all I have a whole lot to say
00:02:57There's more to how Jen and I's resort went and the only cold was half of the interactions that Jen and I had
00:03:04I definitely could with that relationship if I wanted to
00:03:07I've been doing tarot for I don't know a long time
00:03:19Let's pull a card for today see where
00:03:22Strength I'm definitely gonna need that today
00:03:26Let's see how that goes
00:03:28The whole time I was in Tulum corny was always by my side very sweet
00:03:31But the Courtney in Orlando was a little different. So things right now are not the best. They're a little rocky
00:03:36I always like free snacks excited to see the others though
00:03:59Thank you so much. Yeah, of course
00:04:02So Carla and I left to loom together, but there's been some updates in my life
00:04:08Recently Cole and I have gotten closer and I think he's kind of gained a little more self-respect
00:04:13I think there's a lot to unpack with Cole and Jen situation and so I'm kind of excited to see what he has to say
00:04:20Thank you. Thank you. I think the biggest thing that I'm nervous about coming up today is the unexpected
00:04:25I'm prepared to talk about Jen and I I was a lot of anxiety that comes with Rob still being a part of the story and people are
00:04:33Going to be coming with their weapons ready to battle. I totally expect there to be drama today
00:04:37I feel it I feel it you want this you need it this time
00:04:46Rocky and I picked each other in Tulum, and as we stand today, it's confusing.
00:04:56My heart's pounding, so I don't know if I'm excited or scared.
00:05:01I went through this whole thing, sticking to my guns.
00:05:04I was like, listen, I'm going to be honest, and if you get hurt, your feelings hurt, that's on you.
00:05:09Hello, Tiff.
00:05:10Hello, love of my life.
00:05:12What are you doing?
00:05:12Hello, Jellybean.
00:05:13Are you doing my turn?
00:05:14Yes, I will.
00:05:15Are you excited for today?
00:05:17Excited is one word.
00:05:19Put your energies in your fingers and pick one.
00:05:20Well, that's the word.
00:05:21There you go.
00:05:22What does this mean?
00:05:23Wow, look at this.
00:05:23This is the three of coins.
00:05:25This is a good one.
00:05:25It's kind of a party, celebration.
00:05:27Yeah, coins, exactly.
00:05:28Material wealth.
00:05:29Give me some of that.
00:05:29You've got a coin right there.
00:05:30There you go.
00:05:32I became friends with everyone that I met in Tulum, maybe except Jennifer or Carlo.
00:05:37I got to go do all of this, so I'm going to get out of here.
00:05:40Give me a hug.
00:05:42Good to see you.
00:05:43Good morning.
00:05:43I'm not a perfect person, so I'm not one to, like, judge just anyone, but I think I have
00:05:48a free pass with them.
00:05:48I am still on the hunt for love in Mexico.
00:06:04That was the first time since 2008 that I've actually dated, like, by meeting people in
00:06:10public and not meeting online, so I was very rusty.
00:06:13Morning.
00:06:13I'm always ready for tell-all.
00:06:16I always say, don't sing it, bring it.
00:06:18I never know what to expect out of Jennifer, but I know if I go off of the last few times
00:06:24I've seen Jennifer, it's always really ugly.
00:06:27And I'm really hoping it's not like that today, but, you know, Jennifer's crazy.
00:06:30All right, so we've got, of course, you need, like, your body spray, hand sanitizer, and then
00:06:40we've got the, uh, the smoothing stones as well for the under-the-eye bags.
00:06:45So, yeah, that's my secrets.
00:06:46Everybody always asks me, and now you know.
00:06:49All right, guys.
00:06:50Well, I need to get ready, so I will see you guys soon.
00:06:53All right, so I'm still going to go.
00:07:05Yeah.
00:07:08Ah!
00:07:09I am not a mystery!
00:07:11Oh, you look like a model.
00:07:14You look like a model.
00:07:15I just want to be just like you.
00:07:17I felt to loom was, like, high school cliques.
00:07:24It's, like, a hierarchy or something, and I just felt excluded.
00:07:28Colt and Elise were kind of the only people that were hanging out with me.
00:07:31How are you feeling?
00:07:32You were in the red dress, or what are you wearing?
00:07:34The red dress.
00:07:35Mm-hmm.
00:07:35You're doing yellow?
00:07:36I'm doing gold, I think, but this looks so high, so I need to see how everything looks good.
00:07:41Basically, Elise is the only one I'm talking to, so I'm getting all the tea from her,
00:07:45but Tim and Tiffany blocked her for six months because of her sleeping with Carlo.
00:07:50I'm like, great, I'm in my mid-30s, and I have to relive this shit all over again.
00:07:55Did you see anybody last night?
00:07:56I saw Tiff and Tim, and I saw Cole.
00:07:59Oh.
00:08:00I saw, yeah.
00:08:02Does Cole try to flirt with you now?
00:08:04He was in my room last night chatting.
00:08:06He has my room key.
00:08:09Did he stay the night in your room?
00:08:11Oh, what?
00:08:13Oh, God, you guys.
00:08:14My room is in the right ear, so I'm rooting for you.
00:08:16Well, that's what you heard.
00:08:17I'm eating.
00:08:27Oh, God.
00:08:28Yeah.
00:08:29Who got the most?
00:08:33That's me, lady.
00:08:34Put him right on time.
00:08:35Put him right on time.
00:08:36Pay me, take a baby, I get to it on time.
00:08:37Skate boy, grind, 8, what's your sign?
00:08:39We can say, all right?
00:08:40Hey, how are you?
00:08:41Good.
00:08:42Good.
00:08:44You look beautiful.
00:08:45Your hair looks stunning.
00:08:48What did you do then?
00:08:49This morning.
00:08:50How?
00:08:51A makeup artist and a hairdresser.
00:08:53I have changed since Tulum, and I am worried about people's opinions on my dating choice.
00:09:03I went into Tulum only dating men, but now I guess you could say the way that I'm dating
00:09:11has changed entirely.
00:09:25Colt, how have you been?
00:09:27I'm okay.
00:09:28Still got my leg.
00:09:30You sparkles.
00:09:31Hi.
00:09:32We're the blue side.
00:09:33We're the blue side of the room.
00:09:35That's right.
00:09:36I was very afraid of Tiffany in Tulum.
00:09:39She would talk trash about a lot of people and try to control every situation to make
00:09:45it in her best interest.
00:09:46I am most worried to discuss with Tiffany the Carlos situation and what actually went down
00:09:51in Tulum.
00:09:52Look at you.
00:09:53Hey.
00:09:54How are you?
00:09:55How are you?
00:09:56You're so nice.
00:09:57Hi.
00:09:58You guys are matching.
00:09:59Are we?
00:10:00You look good.
00:10:01Yeah.
00:10:02Awkward.
00:10:03Facts.
00:10:04Yep.
00:10:05Is it awkward?
00:10:06Yes, it is.
00:10:07Absolutely.
00:10:08Of course.
00:10:09Me and this guy walked around both dating the same girl for a while.
00:10:13They call them Eskimo brothers, right?
00:10:15Oh, my God.
00:10:16I don't know.
00:10:17Well, hello.
00:10:18Yikes.
00:10:19I'm here to meet your magician, apparently.
00:10:20This is the 2025 vampire jacket, right?
00:10:21Vampire jacket?
00:10:22Yes.
00:10:23Can I sit beside you?
00:10:24You like vampires in the club?
00:10:25Yes.
00:10:26Hi.
00:10:27You guys are matching.
00:10:28Did you guys do this on purpose?
00:10:29There's something going on here for sure.
00:10:30Put my jacket on.
00:10:31I want to see what looks like.
00:10:32There you go.
00:10:33But now it's messing up my dress and no one can see my good body.
00:10:34Yeah, but we're not on the stage yet.
00:10:35That way you're not cold.
00:10:37You're welcome.
00:10:38You're so nice of you.
00:10:39Oh, chivalrous.
00:10:40New couple alert.
00:10:41Yeah.
00:10:42Red is a power couple.
00:10:43Red is a power attack.
00:10:44Oh, my God.
00:10:45Hey, your nipple's gone.
00:10:46Okay.
00:10:47Red.
00:10:48We're a whole lot closer than we planned 10 minutes ago.
00:10:50I have a wish.
00:10:51Oh, my God.
00:10:52Oh, my God.
00:10:53Oh, my God.
00:10:54Oh, my God.
00:10:55Oh, my God.
00:10:56Oh, my God.
00:10:57Oh, my God.
00:10:58Red.
00:10:59We're all not closer than we planned 10 minutes ago.
00:11:02I have a wardrobe malfunction.
00:11:04I will be right back.
00:11:05I thought you guys were, like, not cool.
00:11:08We weren't for a long time.
00:11:10When did that change?
00:11:11I don't know.
00:11:12A month ago.
00:11:13Why didn't you ask her out at the retreat?
00:11:16Oh, my God.
00:11:17Can we wait till we get on the stage?
00:11:19Are we all ready now?
00:11:21Are you fixed?
00:11:22We got the girls taped in.
00:11:23All right.
00:11:24We're good to go.
00:11:25Hey, guys.
00:11:26Hi.
00:11:27Hi.
00:11:28Ow, ow.
00:11:29You look nice.
00:11:32You guys all look great.
00:11:33I look like a magician in the assistant here.
00:11:35Oh, my God.
00:11:36That's true.
00:11:37I'm serious.
00:11:38You're right.
00:11:39I love it.
00:11:40We're a big dysfunctional family.
00:11:42Follow me this way.
00:11:43Oh, my God.
00:11:44Don't let me have to come up.
00:11:46This dress is so heavy.
00:11:47It looks heavy.
00:11:48But it looks great.
00:11:49You look great.
00:11:51Nice to see you.
00:11:52Nice to see you.
00:11:53Nice to see you.
00:11:54Right here.
00:11:55Yeah.
00:11:56Sit.
00:11:57Better.
00:11:58Where should I sit?
00:11:59Do you want to see?
00:12:00I just not feel like...
00:12:01Oh.
00:12:02Oh.
00:12:03Okay.
00:12:04Hi, everybody.
00:12:05Hi.
00:12:06Hi.
00:12:07Hi.
00:12:08Hi.
00:12:09I'm Suki.
00:12:10So nice to see you.
00:12:11Nice to see you.
00:12:12Hello, Courtney.
00:12:13How are you guys doing?
00:12:14Doing well.
00:12:15Yeah?
00:12:16Doing good, Suki.
00:12:17Ready to do this?
00:12:18Yeah, I'm ready.
00:12:19Yeah?
00:12:20I'm ready.
00:12:21Let's go.
00:12:22I'm ready, too.
00:12:23It's my first time.
00:12:24Yeah.
00:12:25Here we go.
00:12:26Five.
00:12:27Four.
00:12:28Three.
00:12:29Two.
00:12:30Welcome to the 90-day hunt for love tell-all.
00:12:31I'm Sukanya Krishnan.
00:12:32You can call me Suki.
00:12:33Is everyone ready to get things started?
00:12:34Yeah.
00:12:35Let's go.
00:12:36All right.
00:12:37We're going to cover everything that happened in Tulum.
00:12:39The short but intense flings.
00:12:40Oh.
00:12:41The bad blood.
00:12:42The ugly breakups.
00:12:43And so much more.
00:12:44We do have plenty of unexpected things.
00:12:45All right.
00:12:46All right.
00:12:47We're going to cover everything that happened in Tulum.
00:12:48The short but intense flings.
00:12:49Oh.
00:12:50The bad blood.
00:12:51The ugly breakups.
00:12:52And so much more.
00:12:53We do have plenty of unexpected things.
00:12:54I'm ready, too.
00:12:55I'm ready, too.
00:12:56It's my first time.
00:12:57Yeah.
00:12:58And so much more.
00:12:59We do have plenty of unexpected guests and some never-before-seen footage.
00:13:03Ooh.
00:13:04So we've got a lot to dig into.
00:13:06And I'm going to start with Jen and Cole.
00:13:09Ooh.
00:13:10Jen and Cole, so nice to meet the two of you.
00:13:11Hi.
00:13:12It's good to meet you, too.
00:13:13So I really need to know, are you still together?
00:13:22Yes.
00:13:23Still together to this day.
00:13:25I'm surprised.
00:13:26Not going to lie.
00:13:27I'm a little surprised.
00:13:28Unless you're honest.
00:13:30All right, Rob.
00:13:32I'm looking at you.
00:13:33What about me?
00:13:36How's it feel to see Jen today?
00:13:38Um, it's like seeing everybody else here.
00:13:42Come on.
00:13:43I think you guys shared a little bit more than just everybody else.
00:13:46We did share more than everybody else.
00:13:47How much more?
00:13:48But at the same time.
00:13:49Ay-yi-yi.
00:13:50All right.
00:13:51We can't wait to unpack that in a little bit.
00:13:56All right.
00:13:57Let's move on to Usman.
00:13:58Despite your best attempts, Courtney decided to move on with Colt.
00:14:02I just thank Gary.
00:14:03This is what pains me the most.
00:14:04I was chasing this lady.
00:14:05She was chasing Colt.
00:14:07Not used to them Western women.
00:14:09Tim, I have so much opinion on that guy.
00:14:11He is so fake.
00:14:12Whoa.
00:14:13Okay.
00:14:14What did he do?
00:14:15Yeah, I'm dying to know myself.
00:14:16Tim is fake.
00:14:17I promise you Tim is fake.
00:14:18Why do you have so much beef with Tim?
00:14:19What did he do to you?
00:14:20Did you see his social media?
00:14:21There was some online drugs.
00:14:22I saw that.
00:14:23Usman, can you tell us what that's about?
00:14:26This is what Tim did.
00:14:27What did I do?
00:14:28Before I met Tim, like, we follow each other.
00:14:30And he all followed me, and he blocked me.
00:14:32And he blocked me.
00:14:34And he was like, you know, I don't know.
00:14:36I don't know.
00:14:37I don't know.
00:14:38I don't know.
00:14:39I don't know.
00:14:40I don't know.
00:14:41I don't know.
00:14:42I don't know.
00:14:43And he blocked me.
00:14:45So when we meet in Tulum, Mexico, I confront you.
00:14:48And I ask you, I was like, bro, why would you block me?
00:14:51Like, what happened?
00:14:52You told me that you are sorry.
00:14:54There's nothing like that.
00:14:55I let it go.
00:14:56You start following me that time, become friends.
00:14:58After I left Tulum, you unfollow me again.
00:15:01Whoa.
00:15:02Why would you unfollow me?
00:15:04Are you petty?
00:15:05God.
00:15:06I didn't block you on social media.
00:15:08I deleted, like, 500 people off my Instagram that never
00:15:11interacted with me because I never see my actual friend's
00:15:14post.
00:15:15So I cleaned it up.
00:15:16It wasn't targeted towards you at all.
00:15:18But you acted like a bitch and went online and start
00:15:21blasting me like I'm...
00:15:22No, no, no.
00:15:23Because I want you to know how I feel.
00:15:24I'm not gonna be just unfollowing you.
00:15:25But come to me like a man.
00:15:26Don't be a bitch and try to make a scene.
00:15:27I'm not gonna come to you because when you unfollow me,
00:15:29you didn't come to me.
00:15:30Two weeks ago, people start telling me, Usman, saying that
00:15:33I'm the worst friend he's ever had, the biggest backstabber.
00:15:36I posted it for you to see.
00:15:37I didn't only tell people.
00:15:38Right.
00:15:39But that's a pussy move.
00:15:41You should have just...
00:15:42It's not pussy.
00:15:43You have my phone number, Usman.
00:15:44What you did is pussy.
00:15:45What you did is pussy.
00:15:46No, what you did is pussy.
00:15:47Did I unfollow you on social media?
00:15:48Are we five years old?
00:15:49And block me after I left.
00:15:50Usman.
00:15:51Oh, my God.
00:15:52This is ridiculous.
00:15:53Usman.
00:15:54Tim, just follow him back.
00:15:55He hurt his feelings.
00:15:56Usman.
00:15:57Tim, get your phone out right now and follow him.
00:16:00No, I'm not gonna be bullied into following somebody.
00:16:02Whoa.
00:16:03Okay, okay, all right.
00:16:04Let's leave it at that, guys, because we've got a lot to cover.
00:16:07This was some hello.
00:16:08That's how it usually works with this group.
00:16:11So let's jump right in.
00:16:13Let's do it.
00:16:14Yeah, we're ready.
00:16:15All right, now we're gonna focus on Courtney and Colt.
00:16:17Courtney and Colt had a connection early on, but it wasn't until Colt broke his leg that their relationship truly blossomed.
00:16:25So good to see you.
00:16:27It's really good to be here.
00:16:28Uh, Colt, leg is still propped up.
00:16:30Leg is still propped up, still, uh, still not healed, but, you know, doing better little by little.
00:16:35Yeah.
00:16:36And Courtney, how's it been?
00:16:37Good.
00:16:38I mean, ups and downs, but we're doing good.
00:16:40So you're still together?
00:16:42Yeah.
00:16:43Definitely have this connection that's very unique, I think.
00:16:47I moved in with Courtney and her parents, uh, in Orlando.
00:16:50And I've been staying there now.
00:16:52And it's, it's definitely different.
00:16:55I mean.
00:16:56I, I just don't get it.
00:16:57Like, you go to look for love and you come back with unnecessary liability.
00:17:04So, good luck.
00:17:06Well, Courtney, it was kind of interesting because, you know, you had this love triangle.
00:17:10You know, Usman was your number one.
00:17:12You came out and you said it.
00:17:13And then all of a sudden things started changing.
00:17:16When did they start changing?
00:17:17Walk us through that.
00:17:18Um, I'd say maybe we were a week and a half in.
00:17:24And it's like Usman still hadn't asked me on a date yet.
00:17:27We actually had a date planned for the day that Colt came over and broke his leg.
00:17:32So, then immediately I started going to the hospital all the time.
00:17:36So, things started going more towards Colt when I kind of got into the caretaker role.
00:17:41I am so happy that Colt ended up with hers.
00:17:45Like in the movie when somebody finally knocks out the bully.
00:17:48Uh, Usman really disrespected Colt, so.
00:17:51No, I didn't disrespect him.
00:17:53I did not disrespect him.
00:17:54You did disrespect him.
00:17:55When you talked to him on the beach and told him he wasn't a man, he wasn't worthy,
00:17:59and you spoke very poorly about him and that was wrong.
00:18:02Guys, hold on.
00:18:03We want, we want clarity.
00:18:04We have the clip.
00:18:05Let's roll the clip and then we can all respond.
00:18:09I have a question for you.
00:18:10Yeah.
00:18:11I see you going close to Courtney a little bit.
00:18:13Oh, yeah.
00:18:14What's going on?
00:18:15We kind of hit it off.
00:18:17Bro.
00:18:18I mean she should be with somebody who is so much better, not you.
00:18:20At least no lady would pick you over me.
00:18:23You think you're better than me?
00:18:24I was, I didn't think I'm better than you, but I think I'm more man than you.
00:18:28More man.
00:18:29Yeah.
00:18:30I look more man than you.
00:18:31Thank I'm sitting down.
00:18:32Holy shit.
00:18:33Are you tired?
00:18:34No, I just, you said the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
00:18:38Right now, I look more man than you.
00:18:40And he has a poor belly.
00:18:41I don't even know how you can see the penis.
00:18:43You know, like, the ladies have to struggle to see that dick.
00:18:50You aren't disrespectful, Usman?
00:18:52That wasn't disrespectful?
00:18:53No, no, no.
00:18:54This is somebody who take the woman you wanted to be with.
00:18:57That's not, like, disrespectful.
00:18:59He said I'm more of a man than you.
00:19:01I am.
00:19:02It's clear.
00:19:03I am.
00:19:04Even now I can start to that.
00:19:05What classifies you to say that, though?
00:19:06Bro, you...
00:19:07Okay, I will.
00:19:08You don't bully somebody.
00:19:09Attack them about their weight and then say that you're better than them.
00:19:13I'm more interested in why you're so concerned about my dick.
00:19:17Like, like, my size of my dick?
00:19:19Can she find my dick?
00:19:20Where on my body is my dick located?
00:19:22Like...
00:19:23No, that was a bitch move, seriously.
00:19:24Like, you, you...
00:19:25Okay, I'm sorry about that.
00:19:26Sorry doesn't cut it.
00:19:28Tim, why are you jumping into my conversation, bro?
00:19:31Like, what the is wrong with you?
00:19:32Because that's bullying.
00:19:34Because, see, I just bullshit and nonsense.
00:19:36Stop judging me like I'm...
00:19:37I don't have to apologize to you, mother .
00:19:39I'm talking to the guy that I offend.
00:19:41And you're just jumping on me.
00:19:42Allow him to speak to me.
00:19:43And I'll apologize time and time and time again.
00:19:45I'm taking off for him.
00:19:46Because I did him wrong.
00:19:47I'm taking off for him because it's not...
00:19:49No, I am taking off for him.
00:19:50You are a female and you're taking off...
00:19:51You know what?
00:19:52You lose me.
00:19:53Yeah.
00:19:54Oh, damn.
00:19:56Shut your mouth.
00:19:57Damn.
00:19:59Wow.
00:20:01Seems like trust is an issue.
00:20:03Yeah.
00:20:04Has there been anything specific that's happened?
00:20:06He was talking to other women, planning to meet up with them.
00:20:09Wow.
00:20:10Damn.
00:20:15I don't trust you, Elise.
00:20:16Dude, I told you I was gonna go hang out with them.
00:20:19I went to Elise's room.
00:20:20What?
00:20:21Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:20:23You were in Elise's room last night?
00:20:25Yeah.
00:20:34I'm just kidding.
00:20:35I'm just kidding.
00:20:36I'm just kidding.
00:20:37He's still talking shit.
00:20:40What the f*** are you, Usman?
00:20:42It's your f***ing mouth.
00:20:44Oh, damn.
00:20:45Damn.
00:20:46Rubbish, idiot.
00:20:47Pick him up. Is he still here?
00:20:49You're a very stupid guy.
00:20:50I don't know why he's acting like that.
00:20:51He's a voice of Usman.
00:20:52At least save him.
00:20:54I don't know what to do.
00:20:55Why don't you just change the channel?
00:20:56If I'm right, then he can f*** me.
00:20:58Bring him back.
00:20:59Hang on, right there.
00:21:00You come to punch me.
00:21:01He's still talking shit.
00:21:03What's wrong with this asshole?
00:21:05You're all right, Tim.
00:21:06I don't think it's a good idea to leave Usman
00:21:08next to the team right now.
00:21:09Take him from Tim.
00:21:10Away from Tim.
00:21:11Come next to me.
00:21:12No, he cannot slap me.
00:21:13He's slapping the television because the television
00:21:15is right there.
00:21:16Tim, you need a minute?
00:21:17No, I don't need a minute.
00:21:19I just don't want to hear this mother f***
00:21:21keep making excuses.
00:21:22I'm sorry now because I'm on stage
00:21:24and everybody's attacking me.
00:21:25No.
00:21:26Don't be a f***ing bully.
00:21:28I don't owe you nothing, bro.
00:21:30Like, who the f*** are you?
00:21:32Who are you?
00:21:34I'm not the one saying I'm better than people.
00:21:37What's wrong with Cole?
00:21:38He designs video games.
00:21:39He's super f***ing smart.
00:21:41He's gotten more p***y than Usman has ever thought about.
00:21:44True.
00:21:46Mother f***ing, you date seniors.
00:21:48Shut the f*** up.
00:21:49Peace up, shit.
00:21:49Shut the f*** up.
00:21:53Everybody here agrees that you talk to him like shit.
00:21:56Everybody here agrees that.
00:21:59I agree that he talked to him like shit,
00:22:01but I also do feel like he watched it.
00:22:03And then when he watched, he was like, damn.
00:22:04He said, oh, that was bad.
00:22:06Yeah.
00:22:06That was shitty.
00:22:07I'm sorry, Colt.
00:22:08And I'm sorry, Colt.
00:22:09And I really meant it.
00:22:10Please.
00:22:12Do you forgive him?
00:22:13Uh, I mean, I didn't care, honestly, what you think about me as a man.
00:22:19And I don't really care if you say you're sorry or not.
00:22:22Like, there's no point that I care what comes out of your mouth.
00:22:25Tim cares more about this than I do, and God bless you for that.
00:22:29I mean, Colt got the girl.
00:22:30I don't think he's going to feel too bad about somebody talking shit
00:22:33about how he's not good enough for the girl when he got the girl, so.
00:22:36You apologize.
00:22:37Now sing Colt a song.
00:22:39Colt, I love you, I love you, I love you.
00:22:42Okay, guys, let's move on.
00:22:47Courtney, let's talk about your relationship with Colt, all right?
00:22:50Okay.
00:22:50Besides the living situation and the recovery,
00:22:53has there been any other bumps in the road?
00:22:56I mean, just seeing his exes talking shit online, it's a lot.
00:23:00Yeah.
00:23:01They all went crazy on social media and started, like,
00:23:05oh, he doesn't love Courtney, he's just using her for a place to stay
00:23:08and, like, medical insurance and all of this stuff, and...
00:23:13Did you ever feel that?
00:23:14It made me question, like, oh, is he telling other women
00:23:18he doesn't like me?
00:23:19At this point, we didn't love each other, you know?
00:23:21It's like, we just left the retreat.
00:23:22We weren't saying I love you, he came into my house.
00:23:25So then when it started to develop deeper
00:23:27and we started saying I love you and stuff, I'm like,
00:23:29oh, are you talking to other women?
00:23:31Like, is there any truth to this?
00:23:32So you did get to the point of I love you?
00:23:37Yeah.
00:23:39Wow.
00:23:40Shit.
00:23:42But it seems like trust is an issue.
00:23:44Oh, well, trust is, I come with trust issues built in.
00:23:46It's a feature, maybe, if you want to think about it.
00:23:48Like, I've been lied to and cheated on in the past,
00:23:51and then he has the reputation of lying and cheating.
00:23:54So I'm like, okay, am I...
00:23:55Is that just because you were, like, in toxic relationships
00:23:58and you were trying to get out,
00:24:00or are you going to do this to me?
00:24:01Is this going to be, like, a repeat?
00:24:03Has there been anything specific that's happened, or...?
00:24:09Before we left Mexico,
00:24:10some girl sent him flowers to the hotel.
00:24:14So I was like, oh, you're talking to other women?
00:24:16I was in the hotel room, and I got, I was told I got flowers.
00:24:20So they brought the flowers up, and I was like,
00:24:22oh, who sent me flowers?
00:24:23I was like, oh, my God.
00:24:24I went over to the table.
00:24:25I read the card to him.
00:24:26I was like, who is this?
00:24:28Yeah.
00:24:29It was just a woman I was talking to.
00:24:31I just told her that I had broken my leg,
00:24:32and she felt sorry.
00:24:33Okay, where's this woman from?
00:24:35Mexico City.
00:24:35Mexico City.
00:24:37Um, that's, that sound fishy.
00:24:40That, that sound not right.
00:24:42It wasn't even, like, we didn't exchange anything sexual
00:24:44or anything.
00:24:45It was like a friendship, kind of.
00:24:47Then, before Mexico, he was talking to other women,
00:24:50planning to meet up with them.
00:24:53So, before I met Courtney, before I went to the resort,
00:24:55really, I had a relationship with a woman from Brazil.
00:24:59Okay.
00:25:00I haven't met her, but we've been talking for about a year.
00:25:03And we had plans to see her after I came back from Mexico.
00:25:07I told him, like, you're looking for an exclusive relationship.
00:25:09You need to cut off these other women.
00:25:11I don't want you texting other women in my house.
00:25:14So, I've been trying to be respectful and close that chapter behind me.
00:25:18And then he, like, blocked everybody, got a new phone and everything.
00:25:21Yeah, got a new phone and everything.
00:25:22Clean, start.
00:25:23I saw, he's making effort.
00:25:24He's trying to start clean.
00:25:25I know how to woo a woman.
00:25:26All right, you know how to woo a woman.
00:25:28But I want to ask, how's your sex life?
00:25:31You need to go ahead, sweetie.
00:25:34At the hotel, things progressed before we left Mexico.
00:25:39Oh, my God.
00:25:40How was it?
00:25:43Super.
00:25:44You know, at this point, we had a date.
00:25:48Everything was feeling good.
00:25:49But we still weren't there on an intimate level.
00:25:51So, I just, I, you know, we're kind of touching, feeling, you know, a little, a little...
00:25:56I think you're getting too detailed.
00:25:57Do the cliff notes.
00:25:58Okay, yeah, he went down on me.
00:25:59I think he's right where I'm at.
00:26:01He's doing just fine.
00:26:03Pay attention, my brother.
00:26:04Some people need to learn.
00:26:06I'm getting the vibe right now, just sitting across from you.
00:26:08Like, there's some issues that you guys still have to hammer out.
00:26:11Well, I mean, the injury doesn't make things easier.
00:26:13I'm on a lot of pain meds, you know?
00:26:15And let's say the, the, uh, this...
00:26:17The blood flow.
00:26:18The spirit is strong, but the flesh is weak.
00:26:20What does that mean?
00:26:22We haven't had sex.
00:26:23Yeah.
00:26:24As of today.
00:26:26Oh, shit.
00:26:28What?
00:26:30I was very nice, honest, and kind to him.
00:26:37When you do that, you expect honesty in return.
00:26:41He was honest.
00:26:42He came and told you.
00:26:43Literally.
00:26:44He literally came to your door.
00:26:45He told me after he...
00:26:46When they're drunk, it's two in the morning.
00:26:49Should they be like, let's go knock on the door and ask for Tiffany's permission?
00:26:52Not permission.
00:26:53Oh, my God.
00:26:54This bitch is actually stupid.
00:27:03We haven't had sex.
00:27:05Yeah.
00:27:06As of today.
00:27:07Oh, shit.
00:27:09What?
00:27:11I mean, what is sex?
00:27:12Like penetration?
00:27:13Oral?
00:27:14Yes.
00:27:15Different positions we're trying.
00:27:18Like, I'm not pushing for sex.
00:27:20But I'm like, okay, are you even attracted to me?
00:27:24Of course I am.
00:27:26Do you feel like he's attracted to you?
00:27:28I mean, it makes you question, like, okay, I can't get your dick hard.
00:27:31Wow.
00:27:32Yeah, basically it's erectile dysfunction.
00:27:34Well...
00:27:35Oh, my God.
00:27:36Courtney!
00:27:37Courtney!
00:27:38We don't have to say that word.
00:27:40That's probably medication-induced.
00:27:41Right.
00:27:42I'm on a lot of medication, pain medicine, muscle relaxers.
00:27:45I think he thinks you're gorgeous.
00:27:47His body's healing.
00:27:48And, you know, just give us some time.
00:27:50The oral game's great, though.
00:27:52He was like a sniper in Mexico.
00:27:55Like, a few days after his leg's broken and he had surgery, it caught me by surprise.
00:28:00He, like, rolls across the bed and I'm just like, oh, like, what's going on?
00:28:04I literally couldn't move anything, but I could roll and I could push up.
00:28:08I found a way.
00:28:11But if oral is working, I assume you're getting hard during oral?
00:28:15Yeah.
00:28:16She sucked me off.
00:28:17God, Colt, Colt.
00:28:19You know what, Colt?
00:28:20Good for you guys.
00:28:22Where there's a will, there's a way.
00:28:24My boy.
00:28:25That much we know.
00:28:26I mean, things can stay hard during suction, but whenever we go to get intimate, he's just
00:28:31in so much pain.
00:28:32Yeah.
00:28:33Yeah.
00:28:34It's been a struggle.
00:28:35All right.
00:28:36Well, I really do hope that you guys overcome the challenges and try to make this relationship
00:28:39work.
00:28:40Mm-hmm.
00:28:41Hey, man.
00:28:46Tim.
00:28:47How's your hand?
00:28:48I think it's fine.
00:28:49It's okay?
00:28:50Yeah.
00:28:51Can I get somebody to move Usman back into his spot?
00:28:53Yeah, I'll do it.
00:28:54All right.
00:28:55Thanks, Colt.
00:28:56Yeah.
00:28:57Is that okay with you, Tim?
00:28:58Tim.
00:28:59Don't bring me back to Tim.
00:29:02Hey, buddy.
00:29:03Did you tickle him?
00:29:05Usman looks pissed off.
00:29:06Tim, did it work?
00:29:07There we go.
00:29:08Right next to Tim's ear.
00:29:10Yeah, please.
00:29:11It's gonna be all right.
00:29:14All right, guys.
00:29:16We're gonna take a break.
00:29:18Yay.
00:29:19Let me say something, though, Courtney.
00:29:21I injured my penis when I was with Veronica.
00:29:24I had to see a urologist for nine months, and I was scared to death to have sex.
00:29:31And we almost broke up from it.
00:29:33So don't think that he's not attracted to you.
00:29:36Hmm.
00:29:37Tim, how'd you break your dick, dude?
00:29:40How the you break your dick?
00:29:41Are you kidding?
00:29:42No.
00:29:43Who broke your dick?
00:29:44Veronica.
00:29:45Oh, my God.
00:29:46We for nine hours, and I did a lot of crazy shit.
00:29:51And it up my dick for nine months.
00:29:54That is leasing.
00:29:55So I was scared to have sex, so we almost broke up, because, like, we didn't have sex for months.
00:30:00Because I just wanted my dick to you.
00:30:02I took off.
00:30:04All right, guys.
00:30:07Quiet, please.
00:30:08Five, four, three, two.
00:30:12All right, now let's turn our attention to Tiffany.
00:30:15Yay.
00:30:16Tiffany, last time we saw you in Tulum, you decided to leave exclusively with Rocky.
00:30:20So is that relationship going strong?
00:30:22So we still call each other almost every single day.
00:30:25We video call, but not as my man, but, like, as my trainer.
00:30:31Oh.
00:30:32As your trainer?
00:30:33Yes.
00:30:34Good for you, sis.
00:30:35Yeah, yeah.
00:30:36So you're not together?
00:30:37We're not together.
00:30:38OK.
00:30:39OK, so you're back on the dating scene.
00:30:40You're single.
00:30:41Uh...
00:30:42Are you single?
00:30:48OK, so everybody's leaning in.
00:30:50OK, so we're going to circle back to that in a little bit, because you're being coy with me, Miss Tiffany, over there.
00:30:56But first, I want to look back and revisit the journey that led you here today.
00:31:01So Tiffany, the person that you just kept bringing back again and again was Carlo.
00:31:06He was always in the picture and he was always in the back of your mind.
00:31:09He was persistent.
00:31:10Yeah, I mean, he was.
00:31:11And I remember thinking, like, oh, you know, there could be something there.
00:31:14I like him.
00:31:15He's cool.
00:31:16There was definitely a vibe between the two of you guys.
00:31:18So let's take a look.
00:31:19OK, what's your type?
00:31:21Um, so I do, like I said, I like exotic.
00:31:25Like bilingual is really nice.
00:31:27You're just describing me, Carlo.
00:31:29That's it?
00:31:30Carlo.
00:31:31I'm actually learning to speak Spanish.
00:31:32OK.
00:31:33So that's nice.
00:31:34I'll teach you.
00:31:35I'll be a teacher.
00:31:36I'm very teachable.
00:31:37Yeah?
00:31:38Yeah.
00:31:39Behave yourself.
00:31:40Yeah.
00:31:41Tiffany's looking sexy tonight.
00:31:44I am getting a little aroused, a little excited.
00:31:47Tiffany and I have a lot of chemistry.
00:31:49I think we're both very attracted to one another.
00:31:52Here we go.
00:31:53It has a view.
00:31:54It actually feels really nice.
00:31:56Tiffany, who would you like to choose
00:31:59to come stand here next to you?
00:32:02One person.
00:32:05OK.
00:32:12Rocky.
00:32:17All right.
00:32:20You're a dark horse.
00:32:24I feel really bad for how everything ended in Tulum.
00:32:31I feel like Carlo freaked the out on me.
00:32:34He yelled at me.
00:32:35He felt like I did something wrong to him.
00:32:37And I felt the same way.
00:32:38Like he did something wrong to me.
00:32:39And then he sent me like a shitty text.
00:32:42Like, ooh, you got me in the middle finger.
00:32:44Whoa.
00:32:45And then he sent me a picture of him wearing a t-shirt
00:32:47with Elise's face on it.
00:32:48Like he was trying to like poke me and say like,
00:32:50ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:32:51Like I didn't even care at that point.
00:32:52I was with Rocky.
00:32:53Producers, do we have that picture?
00:33:02What a douchebag.
00:33:03Oh, my God.
00:33:04So it's like a dick move.
00:33:05But I was like, why does he hate me?
00:33:06Like what's wrong?
00:33:07What did I do to him?
00:33:11All right.
00:33:12I want to switch gears a little bit if we can,
00:33:13because Carlo made a strong connection with Elise.
00:33:16So Elise, give us an update on that.
00:33:19Yeah, so we lasted probably a solid month and a half,
00:33:22two months after Tulum.
00:33:24And I broke up with him.
00:33:26Um, I think the distance, he was very controlling.
00:33:32He wasn't what I was looking for.
00:33:34And he was a manipulator.
00:33:35And he was a manipulator.
00:33:36And he was a manipulator.
00:33:37Yes.
00:33:38So you broke up with him.
00:33:39Yes.
00:33:40All right.
00:33:41Well, we want to bring out Carlo to get his side of the story.
00:33:44So everybody, please welcome Carlo.
00:33:47Boo.
00:33:48Hey, Carlo.
00:33:49Hey, Carlo.
00:33:50Hey, Carlo.
00:33:51Hey, everybody.
00:33:52Good job.
00:33:53You look great.
00:33:55Hey, Carlo, what's up?
00:33:56Hi, Susan.
00:33:57All right.
00:33:58So there's a lot to talk about.
00:33:59So Tiffany, do you have anything to say to Carlo?
00:34:02I was nice to you.
00:34:03And in private, when I was just texting you,
00:34:06after you had sex with Elise,
00:34:08even then I said to you, whatever you're going to do,
00:34:11please just go with whatever your heart wants.
00:34:14If you didn't want me, because trust me, I had options.
00:34:16I didn't need you to continue getting to know me.
00:34:19But this is where I'm going to jump in.
00:34:23You're sitting here saying that you have options, right?
00:34:25Like, why didn't you pick me?
00:34:26I have a million options.
00:34:27But you attacked me when we had slept together.
00:34:30So it clearly felt like...
00:34:32I attacked you?
00:34:33Yeah.
00:34:34Yeah.
00:34:35At the party.
00:34:36We all watched it.
00:34:37I'm trash.
00:34:38Okay, so let's take a look at what happened after Carlo
00:34:41turned his attention towards Elise,
00:34:43including that fight you just mentioned.
00:34:47So about last night, you know,
00:34:52you're in this position with Tiffany.
00:34:54I mean, if you'd asked me this yesterday,
00:34:57like I'm spending the rest of my time here with Tiffany.
00:34:59But I just feel in my heart like I'm going to continue
00:35:03and be with one person.
00:35:06But it's got to be you.
00:35:11Oh my God.
00:35:12Do you want to be with me for the rest of this?
00:35:18Yeah.
00:35:19A hundred percent.
00:35:21So you're going to go talk to Tiffany and then come back and
00:35:23me?
00:35:25What?
00:35:26Yes.
00:35:27That's what I want.
00:35:28Yes.
00:35:29You me good.
00:35:30Last night.
00:35:31You me so good.
00:35:32Oh my God.
00:35:33Oh my God.
00:35:37I'm super excited.
00:35:38Like, I feel like I can't be that excited until the
00:35:40conversation's done with Tiffany.
00:35:42I mean, I'm super scared and super excited, but I'm excited
00:35:45to do this with you.
00:35:50I feel like he's so nervous of letting her down and hurting her.
00:35:53Is he actually going to say to her that one, we
00:35:56and two, we're now exclusive.
00:36:06Last night.
00:36:07Mm-hmm.
00:36:10I hooked up with Elise.
00:36:16But I feel like Elise is more your vibe.
00:36:18Like she's that kind of girl.
00:36:19I mean, not really.
00:36:20I said from the beginning, I was like, that's not a girl you
00:36:23can take home to mom.
00:36:24Like.
00:36:25I don't know.
00:36:26But it sounds like you were really happy about hooking
00:36:27up with me.
00:36:28I am.
00:36:29I am.
00:36:31I'm here for me at the end of the day.
00:36:33Yeah.
00:36:35You're someone I met along the way.
00:36:39Along with many other people.
00:36:43I have no words in this.
00:36:44Like right now, I just have no words.
00:36:48First of all.
00:36:50Ew.
00:36:51For me to not see your face in three days.
00:36:54You didn't have the balls to come to me and say,
00:36:56hey, Tiffany, you.
00:36:58I'm the guy that you have a connection with.
00:37:00That's shit.
00:37:02That's shit.
00:37:03Because you are a piece of trash.
00:37:09Okay, you know what?
00:37:10Let me be honest.
00:37:11I was shocked in that moment.
00:37:12And I was like, do you think I'm going to let this guy see me upset?
00:37:17Not happening.
00:37:18So I did put it on.
00:37:19And I was like, I don't care.
00:37:20But you put your anger on Carlo on me.
00:37:22Well, there's girl code.
00:37:23If you would have said, Tiff, there's something more for me there and I'm a little interested,
00:37:28I would have been like, yeah, go for it.
00:37:30But you never said it to me.
00:37:32But then Carlo came right after the camera stopped rolling.
00:37:37And this man was like low-key like sobbing, upset that I didn't have a reaction.
00:37:46It's so weird that you would tell Tiffany that you hooked up with Elise and then feel like that she wasn't upset enough for your liking.
00:37:53That's crazy to me.
00:37:54You wanted her to be more upset?
00:37:55You wanted me to cry?
00:37:56You weren't satisfied with how sad she was?
00:37:58I mean like, you even just said it yourself.
00:38:00Like you didn't want to give me the satisfaction so you put on a front.
00:38:03That's not the point.
00:38:04You up.
00:38:05You don't do something like that for a reaction.
00:38:07She's not responsible for her reaction.
00:38:08So I'm not allowed to come and like console with someone who like I really cared about?
00:38:13Bro, you came back over to guilt trip her into feeling bad for you after you somebody else.
00:38:18Yeah.
00:38:19That's what you did.
00:38:20And then you were like, I'm only picking her because I feel like bad.
00:38:26I her so I guess I have to stay with her.
00:38:29But you also said, Carlo, that she's not somebody that you would take home to mom.
00:38:33Exactly.
00:38:34It didn't seem like you were really interested in truly courting Elise from this.
00:38:39I mean like, I think that that was my initial feelings toward Elise and I think that's maybe why it came out of left field.
00:38:46And Elise and I really grew our friendship.
00:38:48We, you know, spend every night talking to each other about family, life, everything.
00:38:52And, you know, I really started to see her differently.
00:38:55I don't think he just slept with her though.
00:38:58They had a friendship the entire time from day one.
00:39:01You were dating other men.
00:39:02You were dating other men.
00:39:03You were kissing other men too.
00:39:04Yeah, but I wasn't them.
00:39:05But you guys aren't exclusive.
00:39:06Yeah.
00:39:07He's free to sleep with whoever.
00:39:09You're not getting it.
00:39:10I'm not mad.
00:39:11He can whoever he wants.
00:39:13She can whoever she wants.
00:39:15I was very nice, honest and kind to him.
00:39:18So, you know, when you do that as a grown up, you expect honesty in return.
00:39:23He was honest.
00:39:24He came and told you.
00:39:25Literally.
00:39:26He literally came to your door.
00:39:27He told me after he .
00:39:28You knock him out.
00:39:29You knock him out.
00:39:30Ask for your permission?
00:39:31Hey Tiffany, I'm Elise.
00:39:32No, but if he has feelings or if he's interested.
00:39:35When they're drunk, it's two in the morning.
00:39:37They hook up.
00:39:38Should they be like, wait, no, wait.
00:39:39Let's go knock on the door and ask for Tiffany's permission.
00:39:41Not permission.
00:39:42Oh my God.
00:39:43This bitch is actually stupid.
00:39:44Nobody's saying that.
00:39:45She's not stupid.
00:39:46She's the only one making sense here.
00:39:47You're an asshole.
00:39:48Are you a bitch?
00:39:49Are you pretending?
00:39:50No, I'm a bitch.
00:39:56Good.
00:39:57Yeah.
00:39:58And I'll own it.
00:39:59I think everyone sees that, Tiffany.
00:40:00But listen to what I'm saying.
00:40:01You don't have to ask permission to anyone.
00:40:03All I am saying is I got mad because I was honest to everyone, so I don't hurt anyone's feelings.
00:40:15But when it came to me, no one gives a .
00:40:18Honestly, I am sorry for how I acted and-
00:40:21You don't have to be sorry.
00:40:23No, but I am sorry because I was under the impression of what Carla was telling me about
00:40:27you and I truly didn't think there was much to it.
00:40:30Yeah.
00:40:31Elise, what do you mean by that?
00:40:33I was getting fed information that he was not into Tiffany.
00:40:38What was he saying to you specifically, though?
00:40:40He told me he didn't feel attracted to her.
00:40:46Huh.
00:40:47That's a whole lot of, like, doing a lot of crazy shit for someone who's not attracted to me.
00:40:52Did you say that?
00:40:54That's not true.
00:40:55You did.
00:40:56That's not true.
00:40:57It's not true.
00:40:58And you didn't tell Tiffany you the dumbest bitch on the planet?
00:41:00You didn't a dumb person?
00:41:01No.
00:41:02You didn't say you made a mistake and dumb person?
00:41:06No.
00:41:09You texted it to me.
00:41:11Oh.
00:41:13Hmm.
00:41:14I don't remember saying that.
00:41:18That's all I'll say.
00:41:19Like, I don't remember.
00:41:21But yeah, I have the messages.
00:41:22I have the messages.
00:41:23We need to see the phone.
00:41:24All right, so producers have your phone, so they're going to bring it out.
00:41:28God dang.
00:41:31Secrets revealed.
00:41:34I'm telling you my truth.
00:41:36Like, I don't remember doing that.
00:41:37It's not your truth.
00:41:38It's just a real truth.
00:41:39Please.
00:41:41You can read it.
00:41:42Right here.
00:41:43Right there.
00:41:44Okay.
00:41:45I think she's dumb, but that I made a decision to be friends and a dumb person.
00:41:51Oh.
00:41:58Miss what?
00:42:01Okay, Carlo.
00:42:02I mean, you said that you didn't remember, but the texts are here.
00:42:07I can understand why both of you would be emotional and...
00:42:11God damn.
00:42:12Like, just because I don't remember something doesn't mean it wasn't said.
00:42:16Like, the truth is, like, I had two connections and, you know, it probably wasn't handled in the best way.
00:42:22Like, I wasn't trying to lie or be deceitful to either of you.
00:42:26Like, I was actually changing my mind that quickly while I was there.
00:42:30Okay.
00:42:31Oh, my God.
00:42:32That's fine.
00:42:33So a narcissist.
00:42:36Well, I'm curious, uh, Cole, how do you feel, um, believing everything that Carlo says, knowing that he talks shit about you?
00:42:43Mm-hmm.
00:42:46Wait, Rob, how do you know that?
00:42:49I told him.
00:42:51Last night.
00:42:52Cole and I were, like, literally crying to each other because Cole is telling me that he's talking about me and vice versa.
00:42:59What happened last night?
00:43:01What?
00:43:03So you were together last night?
00:43:05I was also with Tim and Tiffany last night.
00:43:07Okay, but you were all together.
00:43:08Yeah.
00:43:10We were confiding in each other.
00:43:12We talked about Carlo 99.9% of the time because I'm, like, my .
00:43:18It's like him talking shit about a Cole is up.
00:43:21That's, like, his homie.
00:43:22Um, yeah, okay, so this is the problem, Carlo.
00:43:25Um, it has come to my attention that you think I'm a pussy because I don't stand up to Jen or that I don't stand up to Rob here.
00:43:33That I'm a creep when I drink.
00:43:36Right?
00:43:37So I'm gonna give you a reason to talk shit behind my back and to not trust me.
00:43:43And I will say to both of these beautiful, awesome ladies here that you did talk shit.
00:43:51He would tell me this stuff and how you're fat and ugly.
00:43:54Right? You're a dumb bitch.
00:43:55Woo!
00:43:56Wow.
00:43:57Producers, can we see those texts?
00:43:59He's talking shit about the people who cared about him.
00:44:07Say something now, Courtney and Cole. Say something.
00:44:09Stand up for him now.
00:44:11I don't know what we even say to help Carla.
00:44:14Nobody's saying anything now.
00:44:15I don't agree with Rob in this case, unfortunately.
00:44:18But I also think you're being a boy and playing the field.
00:44:22I don't know how you can stand here and talk shit about these two ladies and me for you to set your text behind my back when I've been here for you the whole time?
00:44:33And be upset that I'm not gonna punch Rob in the face.
00:44:36But guess what I wanna do right now, bro, is punch you in the face.
00:44:40No.
00:44:41No.
00:44:45For you to set your text behind my back when I've been here for you the whole time?
00:44:59Wait, wait, wait. I'm very confused.
00:45:02I'm not confused at all.
00:45:04No, no, back it up because you're obviously talking about something with Rob.
00:45:08So what is this text message?
00:45:10Oh, it's just, it's actually more so communications between Carlo and Elise.
00:45:14And then stuff he's saying to Elise about Cole and that's, that's like his homie.
00:45:21So a month ago, we were all here in New York filming between the sheets.
00:45:26Tiffany and I spent a nice seven hours together.
00:45:30I gave her my phone.
00:45:31She gave me her phone.
00:45:32And after I read what he said about me and what he said about her, I promised Tiffany to have her back.
00:45:40Because it's so hurtful.
00:45:42I have been there for you.
00:45:44And I might look like a whore on TV.
00:45:47And maybe I say some things I should shut my mother mouth for.
00:45:50But you know I'm a good person.
00:45:52And I had best intentions for you.
00:45:53But you me.
00:45:54And you her and your mother best friend.
00:45:59Stop talking shit about people.
00:46:02God damn.
00:46:03No.
00:46:05You like to pretend you're this good guy and I acknowledge that I'm wrong.
00:46:09Me and Cole for seven months have been by your side.
00:46:12And you're talking shit about him.
00:46:14And you're telling Cole shit about me.
00:46:16You won't find a single text out there about me talking shit behind your back.
00:46:20Damn.
00:46:24I'm shaking, dude.
00:46:25It's just crazy.
00:46:26Because you know what?
00:46:27It's only in situations.
00:46:28Carlo, please chime in.
00:46:29Where you're dealing with someone like this.
00:46:30Let him chime in.
00:46:31Let him chime in.
00:46:33What?
00:46:34So he can talk more shit?
00:46:35That.
00:46:36You heard it from everybody.
00:46:37He's a piece of shit.
00:46:38And we're gonna say that.
00:46:39And no one's gonna interject.
00:46:40Tim, why don't you just stay over there and shut the up?
00:46:42What other proof do you need, Cole?
00:46:45There's text messages on phones.
00:46:47You got every one of his friends saying that he lied.
00:46:49What else do you need?
00:46:51I want his response to all these accusations.
00:46:54I want him to say something.
00:46:55Your best friend just basically switched on you.
00:46:58How do you feel about that?
00:47:03Like, I love you, Carlo, but you really up, brother.
00:47:05You up.
00:47:07Carlo, it is over.
00:47:08There's nothing Carlo can say.
00:47:09Nothing.
00:47:10The only thing that Carlo can do is to apologize and admit his shit
00:47:13and just get the hell out.
00:47:16It's a good place to start, man.
00:47:19I mean, yeah, like, like, I, in terms of the shit talking.
00:47:24I'm sorry about that.
00:47:25I handled myself the wrong way.
00:47:27This is where I really did wrong.
00:47:31Bullshit.
00:47:34All right, Carlo, I know this was, uh, wasn't easy,
00:47:36but we appreciate you being here and coming here today
00:47:39to share your side of the story.
00:47:42We thank you for it.
00:47:43All right.
00:47:45Bye, Carlo.
00:47:46Bye.
00:47:47Bye.
00:47:50That was intense.
00:47:54All right, that was a lot, but let's switch gears on what's going on in your life right now.
00:47:58Tiffany, we know Rocky's just a friend, but have you started dating again?
00:48:04Yes, I have.
00:48:05Okay, so tell us about that.
00:48:06I don't want to get too deep into it, but it was, um, a former relationship that I ended
00:48:14because I was being very stubborn.
00:48:16Um, but we reconnected.
00:48:18My mom actually was in contact with him because she loves him.
00:48:22And, uh, she kept, like, kind of poking me about it.
00:48:24And then one day I got a knock at my door and it was him.
00:48:27Wow.
00:48:28So he just showed up and I was apprehensive, but I'm really, for the first time in my life,
00:48:34in a relationship where I could say I have a person who has everything I want
00:48:39and I don't have to sacrifice not one of the things that I'm looking for.
00:48:43Okay.
00:48:46This is big. We're so happy for you.
00:48:48So are you going to tell us his name, who this person is?
00:48:51My new perfect guy's name is also Ronald.
00:48:59Oh, no.
00:49:01Stop.
00:49:02Wait, your ex-husband's name is Ronald and your new perfect person is Ronald, too?
00:49:06Oh.
00:49:07Tiffany, it's like when a dog dies and you get, like, a name of the same.
00:49:11Yeah.
00:49:12Is he Ronald, too, on your phone?
00:49:14No, I don't say that name in my house.
00:49:16Oh, my God.
00:49:17I call him Ronnie.
00:49:18Ronnie.
00:49:19Okay.
00:49:20He calls him luckily.
00:49:21Yeah.
00:49:22You don't have a Ronald, you have a Ronnie.
00:49:23I have a Ronnie, and he's my perfect man.
00:49:26We're happy for you.
00:49:28Aw, we're happy for you.
00:49:29Well, I think we all learned quite a bit today.
00:49:33Looking at the future, Tiffany, we wish you the best of luck with your new boyfriend, Ronnie.
00:49:38Ronald, too.
00:49:40Guys, we're going to take a quick break.
00:49:43Oh, thank God.
00:49:45No.
00:49:46If it wasn't for Cole, we would look insane.
00:49:48If it wasn't for Rob, I'm the one who brought that shit up.
00:49:52But where he was talking shit about Cole, I'm so glad you told me that, so I could say that and bring that up because...
00:50:00Where you brought it up?
00:50:01Yeah, like, yeah.
00:50:05I just felt so bad for Carlo.
00:50:08Everybody's attacking him.
00:50:09It was like, everybody was talking shit.
00:50:12Tim and Tiffany were the biggest shit talkers at the resort.
00:50:15Yeah, for real.
00:50:16Tiffany was calling you some nasty name.
00:50:17Yeah, she was being a bitch.
00:50:19Courtney, if you're going to talk shit, at least be sneaky.
00:50:24Do it better.
00:50:27Uh-oh.
00:50:29Dumb bitch.
00:50:32Let's welcome Veronica.
00:50:34So I have to ask, in that clip we just watched,
00:50:37any truth to you two being swingers?
00:50:39I wouldn't say swing.
00:50:41You told me that.
00:50:42There was a swingers club in Charlotte that we went to, but...
00:50:45Ooh.
00:50:45Man, come on, like...
00:50:49So here's the truth.
00:50:51Wow.
00:50:52We're going to walk the set now.
00:51:01Okay.
00:51:01Okay.
00:51:04All right, please.
00:51:05All right, here we go, guys.
00:51:06Five, four, three, two.
00:51:14All right, we're going to focus now on Tim.
00:51:16Since breaking up with Jennifer in 2019, Tim has had some short-lived relationships,
00:51:21but he most often finds himself in the friend zone, which is kind of where he is today.
00:51:28So we're going to dig a little bit deeper and find out why he was unable to find love
00:51:32in Tulum.
00:51:34Tim, are you ready?
00:51:35I'm ready, yeah.
00:51:37All right, Tim and Jen both spent a lot of time at the resort throwing shade at each
00:51:42other, and some of the accusations were pretty shocking.
00:51:46Take a look.
00:51:48What happened?
00:51:48Well, you know that's my ex that's here, right?
00:51:52Hold up.
00:51:53Why did y'all break up?
00:51:55The truth.
00:51:56She's a gold-digging whore, but she definitely wasn't happy unless I was buying shit.
00:52:01Maldito!
00:52:03One time, we went to a strip club.
00:52:06Okay.
00:52:07And he paid to a guy to dance for me as he was watching.
00:52:13You went to a men's strip club?
00:52:14Yeah.
00:52:15Stop.
00:52:17Yeah, like a lap dance.
00:52:18Yeah.
00:52:18He just likes weird shit.
00:52:20He said that with his ex-girlfriends, he loved to go to seniors.
00:52:27Okay.
00:52:27Yeah.
00:52:28That's just something else.
00:52:29That's interesting.
00:52:30Yeah.
00:52:32Yeah, I bought her a stripper.
00:52:34Her ex was very controlling and very jealous.
00:52:38Something came up about strip clubs, and she was like, I've never been to one.
00:52:42And I was like, yeah, no big deal.
00:52:43Let's go.
00:52:44So we went, and she picked.
00:52:46I paid the guy he danced for.
00:52:49And it was really sweet.
00:52:50And then she turns that around into like, Tim didn't touch me, and he just wanted to watch
00:52:56other men dance on me.
00:52:58Like, nah, Tim was trying to show you that he wasn't your ex.
00:53:02So there's a lot we have to get into.
00:53:09But first, I want to bring out someone who knows Tim better than most, his ex, and now
00:53:14his BFF.
00:53:15Everybody, let's welcome Veronica.
00:53:17Veronica, come on out.
00:53:19Yay.
00:53:19Yay.
00:53:22Look at y'all matching.
00:53:24We all had Christmas here.
00:53:25Right?
00:53:26That's what I said.
00:53:28Hi, y'all.
00:53:28You look great.
00:53:29Veronica.
00:53:30I have to ask, any truth to you two being swingers?
00:53:38I wouldn't say swing.
00:53:40You tell me that.
00:53:41I experimented with swinging like very early in my life, but I was never like a full-fledged
00:53:48swinger.
00:53:49No.
00:53:50That is true.
00:53:52We did go to, there was a swingers club in Charlotte that we went to, but we were very
00:53:56unsuccessful swingers.
00:53:58Yes.
00:53:58Okay.
00:53:59Let's be honest.
00:54:01All right.
00:54:01There's a lot to unpack here, okay?
00:54:03Yes.
00:54:04Um, so Courtney, at the resort, you called Tim a cuckold.
00:54:08Can you explain what that is?
00:54:09Yeah.
00:54:10I don't even know.
00:54:11A cuckold is a man that likes to watch another man with his woman.
00:54:16Ooh.
00:54:16Yeah.
00:54:17I don't know what, why Jennifer remembers this differently, but like, that literally
00:54:21was innocent.
00:54:22So, Veronica, what do you think Jen's motivations are for making those accusations?
00:54:28I mean, Jennifer has done this since they broke up.
00:54:31I think she really struggles with the idea that Tim wasn't like completely obsessed with
00:54:37her and like throwing himself at her and throwing money at her and things like that.
00:54:41And so she has to justify that for herself.
00:54:42So she's like, well, clearly the answer is that, you know, that he's gay, that he's into
00:54:47men, that he's, you know, because it's the only way that someone could possibly not be
00:54:51into me.
00:54:51So here's the truth.
00:54:56People are leaving like your gay comments on social media and Jennifer would like them.
00:55:00Like, and I never said nothing bad about her for like three or four years.
00:55:03You said a lot of bad things about me.
00:55:06I did.
00:55:06And you know that.
00:55:08Jennifer.
00:55:08You were saying I am a gold digger and you never gave me anything.
00:55:10Jennifer, yes, I did.
00:55:12You're right, but not in the beginning.
00:55:13For years, I didn't say.
00:55:14Please.
00:55:16I've sat here for six and a half years and listened to that I'm gay.
00:55:20My family's read that and I respected her and never mentioned anything that she asked
00:55:25me not to talk about.
00:55:27And then I get to Mexico and the first thing I hear is, oh my God, now Tim's buying, you
00:55:32know, male strippers because he's so gay.
00:55:34And I'm just like, why are you still trying to tell people I'm gay?
00:55:39Most of the people assume that.
00:55:41I think people assume that because you said it and you said it because you couldn't handle
00:55:44the fact that he just didn't want you.
00:55:47Yes.
00:55:47Because you're just a bitch.
00:55:51Amen.
00:55:54Why are you still trying to tell people I'm gay?
00:55:58I don't think she realizes how much that's haunted my life.
00:56:04Like my family's read it.
00:56:05My parents have been upset by it.
00:56:07Like it doesn't affect me, but it affects people that care about me.
00:56:11But I never joke about you, Tim.
00:56:14I never do it.
00:56:15But we just watched you.
00:56:16We just watched it.
00:56:17No, but night one at the resort, you went around and told everybody she's a gold digging
00:56:21whore.
00:56:22No, I did not.
00:56:23At the next great party at our after party.
00:56:24Absolutely did not.
00:56:24Everybody keeps calling Jennifer a liar, but we just confirmed she's telling the truth.
00:56:28Tim went to the strip club.
00:56:30She's saying he didn't send me money, so I don't think she's a liar.
00:56:35Chantel asked me, why did you break up?
00:56:37And I said, the truth is she's a gold digging.
00:56:39I wasn't going around like, hey, that girl's a gold digging whore.
00:56:42Hey, that girl.
00:56:42No, Chantel asked me.
00:56:44And why did we break up, Jennifer?
00:56:48Because I sent you money for a visa.
00:56:51You said you weren't bringing Violet.
00:56:53A month later, you told me you needed another $1,000 for-
00:56:55You never gave me anything.
00:56:57You have no-
00:56:57You never sent me any money, Tim.
00:56:59It was thousands of dollars over the course of like nine months.
00:57:03That's a lot of money.
00:57:04Okay, so there is it.
00:57:06Where's my phone?
00:57:09Like, I didn't really want to do this, but if you-
00:57:11If you really want to-
00:57:12It's bullshit.
00:57:13Dang.
00:57:17I had only invested my second week in Elise, and I thought we were light vibing.
00:57:23Did you think he liked you?
00:57:25He never was like, hey, Elise, do you want to go on a date with me like he did to May?
00:57:29Right, yeah, I never specified, yeah.
00:57:30I mess up the most with Elise.
00:57:32So would you ever go out with Tim?
00:57:38Oh, God.
00:57:41I don't trust you, Elise.
00:57:43She tried to make him kill me.
00:57:46What?
00:57:47No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:57:48Shut up.
00:57:49I cannot listen to you with that baton.
00:57:53you, bitch.
00:57:54you.
00:57:55Like, I didn't really want to do this, but if you, if you really want to-
00:58:05Yeah, look, look for it, please.
00:58:10Okay, look.
00:58:12Oh, shit.
00:58:15So, look at those two pages.
00:58:16One million, like, it's in Colombia money.
00:58:22But how many transactions?
00:58:24How many transactions?
00:58:26One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14.
00:58:34So, 15 transactions, but she says I never sent her nothing.
00:58:39Well, take your transactions and put it where there is, and that's on light.
00:58:44If you have a relationship with somebody and you willingly give that person money, why would that be an issue?
00:58:50Yeah, but when that, when you stop giving that person money, and they break up with you for it, that's when the issue is.
00:58:57Everybody's missing the point.
00:58:59I treated her well.
00:59:01I gave her what I could, and she's done nothing but make up shit that I'm gay.
00:59:08He can say whatever he wants.
00:59:10I don't care if he's obedient, honestly.
00:59:14Veronica, do you have a final comment on all this?
00:59:16If y'all are still talking about each other, y'all care too much.
00:59:21Leave it in the past.
00:59:25I agree.
00:59:26I don't want to hate Jennifer.
00:59:29Next time I run into Jennifer, I wish we could be like, hey, how's it going, and just be peaceful.
00:59:34Let's see.
00:59:35Yeah, yeah.
00:59:35And, uh, let's move on.
00:59:38I hope y'all can, because I certainly don't want to keep getting drunk into it.
00:59:41I wish you the best, and I hope that, really, you can find someone that you can, you know, be happy with.
00:59:48You know, I wish you the best, but just let's move on.
00:59:51Wait, are you guys putting a truce right now?
00:59:53You both are saying it?
00:59:55Yeah.
00:59:56Same-sies.
00:59:57Yeah.
00:59:58That's it.
01:00:01All right, let's talk more about Tim.
01:00:03Tim really did try to make some love connections, but he just wasn't able to connect with anyone.
01:00:10So let's take a look back at some of his attempts to get closer to the women in Tulum.
01:00:15Aw.
01:00:16Aw.
01:00:17Cringe alert.
01:00:19Okay, so, like, is your number two or three digits?
01:00:24Number four.
01:00:25How many people you f***ed is it in two or three digits?
01:00:28Two.
01:00:29Two digits.
01:00:29Oh.
01:00:30So that would be, it's from 10 to 99.
01:00:34Yes, yes, yes.
01:00:35Okay, all right.
01:00:36Sorry.
01:00:36God damn, I'm not talking, like, rocket science here.
01:00:39Okay.
01:00:39Have you ever had a STD?
01:00:41Never.
01:00:42Never?
01:00:42Never.
01:00:43It freaks me out, too.
01:00:45I'm a germaphobe.
01:00:47Actually, I think I have more in common with you.
01:00:51Okay.
01:00:52And was wondering if...
01:00:54That's the same face she made with Cole.
01:00:55Maybe.
01:00:56That's right.
01:00:56You wanted to go out with me.
01:00:57That same, like, um...
01:00:59Yeah, I think we could do that.
01:01:03You paused.
01:01:04You just made me, made me jump.
01:01:06I would love to take you out again if you want to go.
01:01:09Sounds, sounds good.
01:01:12I think it went better than expected tonight.
01:01:16Oh!
01:01:17I didn't know that.
01:01:20You secured the cheek.
01:01:21It was a cheek.
01:01:22You secured the cheek.
01:01:23It was a cheek.
01:01:24Snuck that one in there.
01:01:25Yeah, he didn't tell me he kissed anyone.
01:01:26That was nice.
01:01:27That's not a kiss.
01:01:29Tim, it was kind of funny.
01:01:30You were talking about the questions on the bus, about the STDs.
01:01:33I mean, like, let's talk about that.
01:01:35Yeah, but you notice I didn't ask me that because I knew she could take it.
01:01:40Oh.
01:01:40And that's one of the reasons I really liked Elise.
01:01:43So you like a girl?
01:01:43You didn't ask her about the STDs and the body count and stuff?
01:01:46She likes to bust balls, and I was just busting her balls.
01:01:50Did you think he liked you?
01:01:52Mm, by him asking me all that, I thought he was just trying to, like, make me feel uncomfortable
01:01:57because Tim says things, like, for shock value, right?
01:02:00And I wasn't going to give in to his shock value.
01:02:03Tim, I will admit, me and Courtney both had a good laugh in saying that those are, like,
01:02:07the first couple questions you ask a prostitute.
01:02:09Exactly.
01:02:10Yes.
01:02:15All right, Tim, you felt like you were asking out Elise, but Elise, did you know that he
01:02:21was asking you out?
01:02:22He was, like, planning it.
01:02:24He said, I want to go on a date with you.
01:02:26I'm, like, working on it.
01:02:28And that was kind of...
01:02:29We talked about that a couple times.
01:02:31I had only invested my second week into her, and I thought we were live vibing, and she's
01:02:37going for Carlo.
01:02:38So I was just kind of like, why the didn't she tell me that?
01:02:43It hurt my feelings, and instead of talking to her about it, I was just like, I'm not
01:02:48going to speak to her the rest of the trip like I was five years old, and I didn't.
01:02:52He never was like, hey, Elise, do you want to go on a date with me like he did to May?
01:02:55I never specified, yeah.
01:02:56I put my phone number in his pocket when we were there.
01:02:59But that was, like, 15 years ago.
01:03:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:01So you still have not learned when people are flirting with you.
01:03:04And you're so direct about everything else.
01:03:07So I don't understand the insecurity.
01:03:10I would think that, like, at your big age, like, if you flop, you flop.
01:03:15I mean, like, you just got to put yourself out there.
01:03:18What's the worst that you can say?
01:03:20No?
01:03:20And then you know.
01:03:21First of all, let's back that big age up a little bit.
01:03:24Middle age.
01:03:25Middle age, okay?
01:03:27No, but, like, Elise was the one I messed up the most with Elise.
01:03:34Well, looking back at this, Elise, has your opinion of Tim changed at all?
01:03:38I think the fact that he realizes, like, what went on at the resort and now talking today.
01:03:43I think it's really admirable of him to own up to it, one, two, actually be able to show interest in a different way.
01:03:52Because, like, he's clearly saying he's flirting with me there.
01:03:55But now, wow, like, he does have feelings.
01:03:58He does have emotions.
01:03:59He is super sweet.
01:04:01So, the fact that he's able to get vulnerable with me, like, means a lot.
01:04:05It does.
01:04:09All right, Elise.
01:04:09I mean, we've been going back and forth.
01:04:11You've heard his intentions.
01:04:13So, would you ever go out with Tim?
01:04:21Oh, God.
01:04:25You know what?
01:04:26He strikes me as, like, such a good, prim and proper boy.
01:04:29But he's, like, probably insane when the doors are closed.
01:04:32I mean, she never went back to Rob after that, right?
01:04:36Oh.
01:04:37Damn.
01:04:39So, go there.
01:04:48Elise, what do you say about that?
01:04:50Would you ever go out with Tim?
01:04:52He needs to ask me.
01:04:54I still would love to take you out, Elise.
01:04:56That is...
01:04:57No, no, Tim.
01:04:57You have learned nothing.
01:04:58What?
01:04:59You have learned nothing.
01:05:00That means...
01:05:01Try again.
01:05:02That means...
01:05:03Okay, Elise, will you go out with me?
01:05:04Why don't you look at her?
01:05:05Take her hand gently.
01:05:06Oh, my God.
01:05:07Okay, Elise, give me your hand.
01:05:09What?
01:05:09Okay, okay.
01:05:11Elise, princess.
01:05:14Tell her she's pretty.
01:05:16You're very beautiful.
01:05:16Tell her what else you like about her that has nothing to do with her appearance.
01:05:19I love your humor, and I love that you can, you know, be asked about your body count and
01:05:23not get mad.
01:05:25Are you free this evening after this shebang?
01:05:27Are you free this evening after we get done with this oh-so-lovely tell-all?
01:05:31I would love to...
01:05:33I would love to...
01:05:34Take you...
01:05:35Take you...
01:05:36Somewhere...
01:05:37Somewhere that you would like to eat.
01:05:39Yes, my treat.
01:05:41There we go.
01:05:41Yes, my treat, yes.
01:05:42Sounds like vows.
01:05:44I would love to.
01:05:45Okay, that sounds great.
01:05:47Aw!
01:05:48Much better.
01:05:50Well, wait.
01:05:52Tiffany, do we have your permission?
01:05:54I was worried for a second.
01:05:56We have to have Tiffany's permission.
01:05:58Okay, she'll lend me.
01:05:59I approve.
01:06:00Okay.
01:06:01All right, so...
01:06:02Veronica, it was definitely interesting.
01:06:04Thank you for helping him get a date.
01:06:07So sweet.
01:06:08Oh, my God.
01:06:09Now she's going to take credit for it.
01:06:10Forever.
01:06:13Veronica, thanks so much for being here.
01:06:15And we wish you the best of luck.
01:06:16Bye, y'all.
01:06:17Bye.
01:06:17Bye.
01:06:18That was fun.
01:06:21All right, Tim.
01:06:22You didn't find love in Tulum, but it sounds like...
01:06:26you might have a date with Elise.
01:06:28I can't wait to see what happens.
01:06:30Aw, thank you.
01:06:31We're going to take a break.
01:06:32Oh, thank God.
01:06:37That was good.
01:06:39It's so nice to meet you.
01:06:47Okay, so...
01:06:48But I need to know, if it had not been for my guidance,
01:06:51would you still have gone out with him?
01:06:53Probably not, because he wouldn't have asked me like that.
01:06:55I know.
01:06:56You know what I will say about Tim, though?
01:06:57Once you've gone out with him, once he feels, like, more comfortable,
01:07:00he will plan things.
01:07:02Really?
01:07:02He will be so sweet.
01:07:04He, like...
01:07:04You know how, like, some girls need, like, a masculine marriage
01:07:07so they can, like, be feminine?
01:07:08He needs, like, a very confident woman
01:07:10so that he can be...
01:07:12So that he can be masculine.
01:07:14You've had sex with him?
01:07:15Like, he's had...
01:07:15A lot.
01:07:16You...
01:07:16Okay.
01:07:17I mean, not in a long time, but a lot.
01:07:19Okay, but, like, I mean, I've never heard of him having sex with a girl,
01:07:22so I'm just, like...
01:07:23Just to be clear, yes, a lot.
01:07:24He's very slow, like, I really had to, like, jump his bones.
01:07:29So it's you, out of every girl, like, you're the most normal,
01:07:31you're stunning.
01:07:32Aw.
01:07:32So, honestly, I'll give it a shot.
01:07:34Yeah.
01:07:34That's where it goes.
01:07:35I'm excited.
01:07:36I'm calling you.
01:07:36Call me.
01:07:37I'm gonna call you.
01:07:38Text me.
01:07:38Call me.
01:07:39Will you give me advice?
01:07:40Yeah, and I'll call you when I'm in Miami.
01:07:41That would be so fun.
01:07:42So good seeing you.
01:07:43So nice to meet you.
01:07:45Elise is definitely out of Tim's league,
01:07:47but his sweet nature and his, you know, caring and his charisma
01:07:51will really come out, and she'll really appreciate that,
01:07:53and I think there's a chance for them.
01:07:54My makeup.
01:07:55Is it, like, too kicked on?
01:07:56It could use a little...
01:07:58You look a little oily.
01:08:00I feel embarrassed calling her over.
01:08:02Calling her over.
01:08:03We need makeup, please.
01:08:04Makeup real quick.
01:08:05Tim is not shy.
01:08:07That's my man.
01:08:09That's my man.
01:08:10Ha, ha, ha.
01:08:11Ha, ha, ha.
01:08:12Ha, ha, ha.
01:08:12Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
01:08:14All right, guys, just go.
01:08:20Counting it.
01:08:21Three, two...
01:08:24All right, let's move on to Jennifer and Cole.
01:08:26Jen was at the center of a complicated love triangle
01:08:29with Rob and Cole.
01:08:30She was torn right up until the final party
01:08:33when she ultimately picked Cole.
01:08:35Does she have any regrets about her choice
01:08:38or anything that happened in Tulum?
01:08:40That's what we're about to find out.
01:08:42Let's get started.
01:08:43So, Jen, earlier you said you're still dating Cole.
01:08:47Yeah.
01:08:48It has been good.
01:08:50There's definitely challenges, like, I guess,
01:08:54in every relationship,
01:08:55especially when it's two cultures
01:08:57and two different languages.
01:08:59It's...
01:08:59It's been communication issues.
01:09:01It's a lot of...
01:09:02I can't even name the list of troubles we have had,
01:09:07but regardless of all of them,
01:09:11I think that we have enjoyed to be together so far.
01:09:14So good.
01:09:17Cole, what have you learned about Jen during this time?
01:09:20I've learned a lot more personally about Jen
01:09:23and who she is
01:09:24and how she communicates
01:09:25and what's important to her
01:09:27as we've moved beyond the retreat.
01:09:29So it's not just physical attraction anymore?
01:09:32No, absolutely not.
01:09:33It's more than that, totally.
01:09:36It's beyond that, absolutely.
01:09:37Well, the physical chemistry
01:09:42has clearly always been strong
01:09:43and there's been lots of talk
01:09:44about sexual experiences, experimenting.
01:09:48Jen's just a freak in general
01:09:49when it comes to bed stuff.
01:09:51So, I mean, I just hang on tight
01:09:52and hope for the best.
01:09:56She's comfortable in her own skin
01:09:57and in bed
01:09:58and it kind of helps me loosen up
01:10:00and enjoy the experience with her, too.
01:10:03And she's not afraid to ask for what she wants
01:10:05and I really appreciate that.
01:10:06So we're very just fluid with the, with that.
01:10:09And Jen, what's it like to be with Cole for you?
01:10:14I think he's like a closet freak.
01:10:16Oh, Cole.
01:10:18And I like that.
01:10:19I'm not going to be more specific
01:10:21because I am a lady.
01:10:23Oh, yes.
01:10:25Fine lady.
01:10:25But yes, he's a closet freak.
01:10:28Give her the secret, Jen.
01:10:29What's the secret?
01:10:31Tacos and squirts.
01:10:33There it is.
01:10:33Tacos and squirts, baby.
01:10:34We take notes.
01:10:35Tacos and squirts?
01:10:36What?
01:10:37What does that mean?
01:10:38He makes her squirts.
01:10:39I don't know.
01:10:40Give her tacos and squirts.
01:10:42You give her tacos because she's hungry.
01:10:44I make her squirt.
01:10:45I make her squirt.
01:10:46Self-explanatory, I guess.
01:10:48So, cool.
01:10:49Thanks for saying that.
01:10:49That's not that freaky.
01:10:51But you know what?
01:10:52He, he strikes me as like
01:10:53such a good, prim and proper boy
01:10:54but he's like probably insane
01:10:56when the doors are closed.
01:10:58I mean,
01:10:59she never went back to Rob after that, right?
01:11:01Oh.
01:11:02Damn.
01:11:04Don't go there.
01:11:06Oh, don't go there.
01:11:08Don't be a bitch.
01:11:10Next question.
01:11:13Okay, moving on.
01:11:15Let's talk about how Rob and Jennifer
01:11:17and Cole spent most of their time
01:11:20in Mexico entangled with each other.
01:11:22Some may even say
01:11:23Jen was stringing both of them along.
01:11:26Let's watch how this complicated situation
01:11:29played out and affected everyone
01:11:31at the retreat.
01:11:32Hello, Bobinta.
01:11:34Good.
01:11:35How was your day?
01:11:37Good.
01:11:37It's so loud.
01:11:39It is.
01:11:40It's so hot here.
01:11:43I've been enjoying my time with Cole
01:11:45but at the same time
01:11:47I don't want to jump too quickly
01:11:48into anything.
01:11:50With Rob,
01:11:50we can get along very easily.
01:11:52He's more like relaxed.
01:11:54I don't like Mr. Interesting
01:11:56but he gives me this bad boy energy
01:11:59that I'm not very sure about.
01:12:01Like it went to Rob
01:12:03and it went to Mary Cole.
01:12:07What I'm saying is
01:12:08Cole comes to me
01:12:11to talk to me about you.
01:12:12If you care about him
01:12:13then maybe entertain that.
01:12:16They both offer two different things
01:12:18and I will be open to explore both.
01:12:20So why are you lying to Cole
01:12:24when you're sleeping at Rob's?
01:12:25I really like Cole.
01:12:27Like I really genuinely like him
01:12:28and I think that
01:12:29if I ever fall in love
01:12:30with somebody here
01:12:31it will be him
01:12:32and only him.
01:12:33But he's pushing me away
01:12:35with his attitude.
01:12:37Like coming to my room
01:12:38and ignoring him
01:12:39knocking at my door
01:12:41waiting for me in the hallway
01:12:42in the middle of the night.
01:12:44You've known him for 10 days.
01:12:46If you see him controlling you now
01:12:48how is it going to be next week?
01:12:50And then he keeps getting worse?
01:12:53No bitch.
01:12:54You're stringing him along
01:12:55and she's really trying
01:12:56to have her cake and eat it too.
01:13:01All right.
01:13:02Rob and Cole.
01:13:04I tried my damnedest
01:13:06to not be jealous
01:13:07and not feel entitled
01:13:08to any of her time
01:13:10and I never
01:13:11I was never upset at her
01:13:12for talking to Cole.
01:13:13Like I was there to see
01:13:14what was there between us
01:13:15and ultimately it didn't work out
01:13:16and it is what it is.
01:13:17I think the major difference
01:13:21between the two of us
01:13:21is that he did step back
01:13:23so much that
01:13:23when I put myself out there
01:13:25and I go for Jen
01:13:26and that's what I want
01:13:26it's perceived as controlling
01:13:28and no point did I ever say
01:13:30I don't want you hanging out
01:13:31with Rob
01:13:31but you can't do this
01:13:32you can't do that.
01:13:33But standing outside
01:13:34of somebody's room
01:13:35at 4 a.m.
01:13:36That's not what happened though.
01:13:37But Jen did say that.
01:13:39Okay that doesn't mean it's true.
01:13:40Jen makes shit up
01:13:40all the time.
01:13:43What?
01:13:44You think Jen lies a lot?
01:13:45Yes.
01:13:49So what happened
01:13:50because I'll clarify this
01:13:51Okay.
01:13:52Is that
01:13:52Saturday night
01:13:53was the first night
01:13:54that we spent
01:13:54the night together
01:13:55and made love.
01:13:58And we woke up
01:13:59the next morning
01:13:59and she invites me
01:14:00to stay over
01:14:01again that night.
01:14:02I wanted to do
01:14:02something special for her.
01:14:03I got her a bottle of champagne.
01:14:05So Tiffany
01:14:05offered to let me put it
01:14:06in her refrigerator.
01:14:08Jen comes back
01:14:09and somehow finds out
01:14:10that I'm at Tiffany's.
01:14:12She
01:14:13for whatever
01:14:14reason is like
01:14:15okay actually
01:14:15I'm tired
01:14:16I'm going to go to bed tonight.
01:14:17I'm disappointed right
01:14:18so I'm going to come by
01:14:19knock on your door
01:14:19give you a hug and a kiss.
01:14:21That's when I saw
01:14:21the light on
01:14:22and nobody's home
01:14:23and that's when
01:14:24it was like
01:14:24okay something's wrong here.
01:14:26So how do we get
01:14:27to 4 a.m.?
01:14:28She said 4 a.m.
01:14:28It wasn't 4 a.m.
01:14:29Okay.
01:14:29Yeah.
01:14:30It wasn't 4 a.m.
01:14:31That was not that night.
01:14:32That was another night.
01:14:33That was that night Jen.
01:14:34That's the night
01:14:35he was knocking on her door.
01:14:36Okay.
01:14:36And she was playing Mario Kart.
01:14:38So Tiffany
01:14:39you think she was
01:14:39with Rob that night?
01:14:41Yes.
01:14:44He was
01:14:45obviously visibly
01:14:46like upset
01:14:47because he was like
01:14:47like what is going on?
01:14:50And I just remember
01:14:51feeling so bad
01:14:51in that moment
01:14:52just like
01:14:52this bitch.
01:14:55Okay.
01:14:55But Tim
01:14:55you said that
01:14:56she was playing Mario Kart.
01:14:57So
01:14:57I mean
01:14:58that's what
01:14:58I heard
01:14:59that they were doing
01:15:00I think this is
01:15:00being pretty clear
01:15:01that the people
01:15:02that are
01:15:03the root of
01:15:04all the gossip
01:15:05were Tim and Tiffany.
01:15:08Bullshit.
01:15:09There's nothing
01:15:10what I'm saying.
01:15:11Anything that's a lie
01:15:11but there's literally
01:15:12I watched
01:15:13I watched her make up something
01:15:15and then I got to see her
01:15:16What is she even talking about?
01:15:20She's
01:15:20so there's
01:15:23like honestly
01:15:24she reminds me of my
01:15:25ex.
01:15:25She's manipulative
01:15:26she's a liar
01:15:28and she likes to
01:15:29with people.
01:15:29Good for you.
01:15:30Beautiful, sexy.
01:15:32Wow you won.
01:15:34But like
01:15:34you hurt people.
01:15:36You're strings
01:15:37in the background
01:15:38with Tim.
01:15:39It's frustrating
01:15:40seeing someone
01:15:41treat someone
01:15:42like they don't mean shit.
01:15:44Like it's not cute.
01:15:45I get it.
01:15:46Like there's like
01:15:46this little
01:15:47Latinas
01:15:47they're so hot and spicy.
01:15:49Oh she's a little
01:15:49she demon
01:15:50but that shit is so
01:15:51horny.
01:15:52She just doesn't
01:15:53give a
01:15:53So
01:15:55do you think
01:15:56Jen actually enjoys
01:15:57watching them
01:15:58fight over her?
01:15:59Yeah.
01:16:00She loves it.
01:16:03Nah.
01:16:03Yes you do.
01:16:04And you played him.
01:16:09I don't know why
01:16:10you're so jealous
01:16:11of Cole and I.
01:16:14Well then
01:16:15don't yell
01:16:15at your boyfriend
01:16:16for hanging out
01:16:16with me
01:16:17to talk about
01:16:17literally this.
01:16:19Then what do you do?
01:16:20What do you do in LA?
01:16:22I can't make this
01:16:22any clearer to you.
01:16:23I told you I was
01:16:24going to go hang out
01:16:24with them.
01:16:25I went to Elise's room.
01:16:26What?
01:16:27What did you say?
01:16:29You were in Elise's room
01:16:30last night?
01:16:34Yeah.
01:16:34She's lying about everything
01:16:44and she knows exactly
01:16:46what the fuck she's doing
01:16:47and it's okay
01:16:48you don't have to answer
01:16:49to no fucking body
01:16:49but you know what
01:16:50when you're a bitch
01:16:52and then when people
01:16:53tell you you are a bitch
01:16:54you can't get mad.
01:16:56When you lie
01:16:57and then people call you
01:16:57a liar
01:16:58you can't get mad then.
01:16:59I'm sorry.
01:17:00That's how life works
01:17:01mi amor.
01:17:05And to top it all off
01:17:07that really bothers me
01:17:08she has always been
01:17:09if she was trying
01:17:09to control Rob
01:17:10and she was trying
01:17:11to control Cole
01:17:12like both of them
01:17:13couldn't talk
01:17:13to any single girl
01:17:15like the balls
01:17:17on her to do that.
01:17:19I never asked Rob
01:17:20or Cole
01:17:21to not talk
01:17:21to any other girl.
01:17:22Okay.
01:17:23That's why I just saw it
01:17:24between the sheets
01:17:25last week.
01:17:26Let me speak.
01:17:27Okay.
01:17:27You will have your turn.
01:17:30Actually I did encourage
01:17:31Cole and Rob
01:17:32to date other people
01:17:34so they could have
01:17:36perspective
01:17:36which I think
01:17:37it was the purpose
01:17:39of the exercise
01:17:40of the retreat.
01:17:42Okay.
01:17:43I don't think
01:17:43encourage is the right word.
01:17:46She might not have told us
01:17:48not to talk to other girls
01:17:49but she was very
01:17:50She made it
01:17:50clear in another way.
01:17:52Yes.
01:17:54She used every opportunity
01:17:56at hand
01:17:56when Cole did
01:17:57absolutely anything
01:17:59to run back to Rob.
01:18:00Genuinely
01:18:03I felt bad
01:18:04for Cole
01:18:04like his heart
01:18:06I don't know
01:18:07why you're so jealous
01:18:08of Cole and I
01:18:09I'm jealous
01:18:10of you and Cole
01:18:11Yeah you are jealous
01:18:11of me.
01:18:13I've never been
01:18:14jealous of you.
01:18:15Well then
01:18:15don't yell
01:18:16at your boyfriend
01:18:16for hanging out
01:18:17with me
01:18:17to talk about
01:18:18literally this.
01:18:20Okay what happened?
01:18:22What happened
01:18:22is last night
01:18:23I told her
01:18:24I was going to
01:18:24go see the release
01:18:25and Tiffany and Tim
01:18:25Okay
01:18:26and she called me
01:18:28at three in the morning
01:18:28yesterday
01:18:29she's asking me
01:18:30where was I
01:18:30and she would not
01:18:32let me go to sleep
01:18:32kept calling me
01:18:33kept calling me
01:18:33right so I turned
01:18:34my phone off
01:18:35So you told
01:18:37Elise
01:18:37and then
01:18:39Jen
01:18:40got jealous
01:18:41Yeah
01:18:42Then why do you do
01:18:44then why do you do
01:18:45I can't make this
01:18:46any clearer to you
01:18:47I told you
01:18:47I was going to
01:18:48go hang out with them
01:18:48I went to Elise's room
01:18:49until about 10, 10, 30
01:18:50I was there
01:18:5130, 40 minutes
01:18:51What?
01:18:54Wait, wait, wait
01:18:56wait, wait
01:18:56What did you say?
01:18:58Cole went to
01:18:59Elise's room last night
01:19:00You were in
01:19:04Elise's room last night?
01:19:07Yeah
01:19:08Oh wow
01:19:10Because I asked
01:19:12to go over
01:19:12I was thinking
01:19:13I might go over
01:19:13to Tiffany's
01:19:14that didn't happen
01:19:14because you didn't
01:19:15want me there
01:19:16it was very clear
01:19:17Oh
01:19:18Well yeah
01:19:19me and Tiffany
01:19:20talk about some things
01:19:22and sometimes
01:19:22you know like
01:19:23we're friends
01:19:24like I know Cole
01:19:25I like Cole
01:19:26and he's cool
01:19:26but like
01:19:27we're really good friends
01:19:28so we talk about stuff
01:19:28sometimes
01:19:29it's just like
01:19:29needs to be a private thing
01:19:30So you wanted
01:19:31some alone time?
01:19:32Yeah
01:19:32That's why I was
01:19:33in Elise's room
01:19:34by myself
01:19:34I tried to go
01:19:35to your place
01:19:36Oh
01:19:37Jen, you know this
01:19:39No
01:19:40I told you
01:19:42that I was going there
01:19:42I told you
01:19:43that I went there
01:19:44She's calling you a liar
01:19:47She's saying you're a liar
01:19:49She's saying you're a liar
01:19:50Because you weren't honest
01:19:52different
01:19:53and to say
01:19:53I'm going to hang out
01:19:54with a group of people
01:19:55then with one woman
01:19:57in her room
01:19:58it's completely different
01:19:59We're in the same hotel
01:20:01It changes everything
01:20:03It changes everything
01:20:04I don't want Cole
01:20:05We're like brother and sisters
01:20:07and we came into
01:20:08this retreat together
01:20:08and that's all it is
01:20:11Shut up
01:20:11I cannot listen to you
01:20:13with that baton
01:20:14you bitch
01:20:18you
01:20:19I don't trust you
01:20:22Elise
01:20:22She tried to
01:20:25make him
01:20:26cheat on me
01:20:27What?
01:20:28Ah Jen
01:20:29Ah
01:20:30What?
01:20:31I made your boyfriend
01:20:33cheat
01:20:33No, no, no, no, no
01:20:34I'm not going to let you
01:20:36manipulate
01:20:37any
01:20:37story
01:20:38If you care so much
01:20:42for him
01:20:43then go
01:20:43I don't want
01:20:45your man
01:20:45So Cole
01:20:47Did you have a good time
01:20:48at Elise's rooms
01:20:49last night?
01:20:51Jen, don't sit here
01:20:52and pull that
01:20:53bullshit on me
01:20:54You know what?
01:20:56Let's just finish
01:20:57this relationship
01:20:58Wow
01:21:00Next time on the
01:21:0590 day hunt
01:21:05for love
01:21:06tell all
01:21:07There's nothing
01:21:09like he's a brother
01:21:10to me
01:21:10To be fair
01:21:12Elise
01:21:12you did say
01:21:13Carla was your friend
01:21:14and then you
01:21:16him
01:21:16Yeah, exactly
01:21:18You're not even
01:21:19defending her
01:21:20you're hiding
01:21:21about Elise
01:21:22I don't know
01:21:22how she expects me
01:21:23to sit here
01:21:23and support her
01:21:24when she acts
01:21:24like this
01:21:25Defend your woman
01:21:26or walk off
01:21:27the stage
01:21:27and say goodbye
01:21:28You walk off
01:21:30the stage
01:21:30bro
01:21:30with your
01:21:30broken ass leg
01:21:31He was waiting
01:21:34for you
01:21:35to do something
01:21:36more than
01:21:37just say
01:21:37that you like her
01:21:39to actually
01:21:39make a move
01:21:40like a real move
01:21:41not just talk
01:21:42about it
01:21:42but be about it
01:21:43Yeah, see
01:21:44effort
01:21:44He doesn't chase
01:21:45women
01:21:46He wants women
01:21:46to fall over
01:21:47and buy him shit
01:21:47His love language
01:21:48is give me shit
01:21:49Oh
01:21:49No, that's not
01:21:51what I say
01:21:51You're a sugar baby
01:21:52Oh
01:21:53Damn
01:21:54Duh
01:21:55I'm no sugar baby
01:21:56You know
01:21:56I gotta call out
01:21:57hypocrisy now
01:21:58Don't you live
01:21:59in her house
01:21:59You are the
01:22:00even bigger sugar baby
01:22:01When you get a lady
01:22:02that take care
01:22:03of you in Tulum
01:22:04that take you
01:22:05to her house
01:22:06that put you
01:22:06on the wheelchair
01:22:07that feed you
01:22:07Why can't you
01:22:08get your own house?
01:22:13What does your mom
01:22:14know about your
01:22:14relationship with Ashley?
01:22:16There's some things
01:22:17that I like to keep
01:22:18from my mom
01:22:19because she blows
01:22:20everything out of proportion
01:22:21Let's bring out
01:22:22your mom, Karen
01:22:23Hey, I love Karen
01:22:25Hey, Karen
01:22:25Hi, Mom
01:22:27Welcome
01:22:27Hey, Ashley
01:22:28Bashley
01:22:29Woo
01:22:30Woo
01:22:31Woo
01:22:32Woo
01:22:33Woo
01:22:34Got your bags
01:22:35Ha ha ha
01:22:36Ha ha ha ha
01:22:37Let's get everybody
01:22:38caught up
01:22:39because the issue
01:22:39between you, Karen
01:22:40and Ashley
01:22:41started because of
01:22:42a text message
01:22:43I'm about to
01:22:44get crazy
01:22:45Oh, I'm about to
01:22:46get crazy too
01:22:47Try it
01:22:48I'm about to
01:22:51Cole
01:22:52Would you say
01:22:53you've totally
01:22:54gotten over
01:22:55everything that
01:22:56happened between
01:22:57you, Jen
01:22:58and Rob
01:22:59in Tulum?
01:23:00I could honestly say
01:23:01no, I haven't
01:23:02about her time with Rob
01:23:03at the resort
01:23:04did y'all ever address that?
01:23:05Rob's nervous
01:23:06that's what's shaking you up
01:23:08I mean, this is like
01:23:09the big question
01:23:10That's not your
01:23:11business, shut up
01:23:12And now, we're gonna
01:23:13give you a chance
01:23:14to see what happened
01:23:15Oh
01:23:16Oh
01:23:17I don't know
01:23:18What the
01:23:21That
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