WWE Presents The Top 25 Rivalries in Wrestling History, Part 1

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00:00:00A battle of two giants in the wrestling world here tonight.

00:00:07Look at these two men. Look at what they've done to each other's bodies.

00:00:11These two men hate each other.

00:00:14Both men are spent punishing themselves in what has been one of the most personal rivalries we have ever witnessed.

00:00:25Boy, when you talk about blood and you talk about hate between opponents,

00:00:29you see just a little bit of it boiling right here.

00:00:33Two men with a king victory for each other.

00:00:37It's a match-up. Neither man will accept defeat it.

00:00:42This has been an incredible physical confrontation.

00:00:48The Grudge Match of the Century!

00:00:59Chemistry is, by definition, the study of composition, properties, and behavior of matter.

00:01:12Its central focus is the interaction between atoms and various forms of energy.

00:01:17That's why you hear certain individuals say they have an inexplicable chemistry with someone else.

00:01:22You'll hear people say,

00:01:23We just clicked!

00:01:24Or,

00:01:25We formed an instant bond.

00:01:27Which all boils down to chemistry.

00:01:30Now, most often, the chemistry is a positive energy with two individuals.

00:01:34However, negative energy just isn't all that bad.

00:01:37In fact, that's how we arrived at the top 25 rivalries in wrestling history.

00:01:42I'm Renee Young, and welcome to our countdown.

00:01:45It took a lot of long hours in the lab, concocting just the right formula,

00:01:51trying to figure out what belonged in the countdown,

00:01:53and then trying to figure out where each rivalry needed to be placed.

00:01:57Now, the beauty of countdowns is that they are extremely subjective,

00:02:00and inevitably, I mean, someone's just going to get left off the list entirely,

00:02:04which does go ahead and cause its fair share of debate.

00:02:07Now, you're not going to agree with all of the rankings,

00:02:09but hopefully you're going to enjoy the journey.

00:02:11So, now that we've set the table and mixed the various properties,

00:02:14let's see what happens.

00:02:16The first rivalry is between two men who elevated each other's careers in the late 90s.

00:02:21The reactions of atoms and changes in matter and mixtures

00:02:24is a perfect way to describe the rivalry between Triple H and Mick Foley.

00:02:41The first thing I think of is the physicality.

00:02:44This is turning.

00:02:46The brutality.

00:02:48Busted wide open, what the hell?

00:02:50They call one of them the cerebral assassin.

00:02:53Like him or not, Triple H has taken his game to another level here tonight,

00:02:58or maybe a new lull.

00:03:00And they call the other one frigging crazy.

00:03:03PanCon, one of the most tormented souls ever, perhaps,

00:03:07in the World Wrestling Federation.

00:03:09Some call him demented.

00:03:12And so, when those kind of powers meet up,

00:03:16it's nothing but physicality.

00:03:19How can they even walk?

00:03:21How can they even stand?

00:03:28You know, some of the matches that I remember the most

00:03:31were definitely at King of the Ring,

00:03:33when the Blue Blood beat mankind.

00:03:37But that's not when it got good to me.

00:03:40Once they locked it up and got physical,

00:03:42that's the stuff that stands out in my mind.

00:03:44This is turning to a barroom brawl here

00:03:48with Hemsley and Mankind.

00:03:51Hunter Hearst, Hemsley, and Mankind

00:03:53in the parking lot, hammering away.

00:03:57Jack, this Jack's rims have got to be aching

00:03:59from the pounding that he has been taking.

00:04:02Hunter Hearst, Hemsley, and Mankind

00:04:04attempting to destroy each other.

00:04:08Oh, he's on the freaking loose!

00:04:09The Blue Blood is kind of where they went with him early on,

00:04:20and I don't think that was close enough to him

00:04:23for that character to truly stand out.

00:04:26Once Hunter became Hunter Hearst, Hemsley, Triple H,

00:04:30I think it was just who he was all along.

00:04:33And he was just fighting to get out.

00:04:35And Mick was his proverbial paper bag.

00:04:38Yo, here comes Triple H!

00:04:40Triple H has just destroyed a steel tear

00:04:43on the spine of Texas Jack.

00:04:46Mick Foley's been busted up from ear to ear

00:04:48at the hands of Triple H!

00:04:51Hunter's willing, was the kind of,

00:04:52and still is the kind of character

00:04:54that would do anything to win.

00:04:57And so was Mick.

00:04:58The WWF champion is being assaulted!

00:05:02Look at this, J.R., and Cactus Jack is enjoying this!

00:05:05Well, I know it's a street fight, but...

00:05:07And I love Cactus Jack,

00:05:09but this has gone a little bit too far.

00:05:10You're not lying!

00:05:12At that point, everybody knew

00:05:14what Mick Foley was willing to do.

00:05:16That idiot Cactus Jack will sacrifice his own body

00:05:18to hurt somebody else!

00:05:20I think it might have been one of the earlier times

00:05:24that we understood just how far Triple H would go.

00:05:28We know without a shot of a doubt

00:05:29that Triple H is capable of doing anything

00:05:32to keep the vaunted

00:05:34World Wrestling Federation Championship.

00:05:37You know, we all know and love Mick

00:05:39for that kind of insanity.

00:05:41That champion now has been decimated!

00:05:45And to see somebody else that's willing to go there

00:05:47as admirable on a real level,

00:05:50as entertaining as crap on a wrestling level, you know?

00:05:54Look at these two men!

00:05:55Look at what they've done to each other's bodies!

00:05:57When their willpowers collided,

00:05:59it made somewhat of an explosion.

00:06:02This war for the WWF title is not over!

00:06:05Good God!

00:06:06This is a piercing brawl!

00:06:08Look at me!

00:06:08Oh, yeah!

00:06:09It was like...

00:06:10For God's sakes!

00:06:12Stop it!

00:06:14I think it worked so well

00:06:18because of the contrast in styles.

00:06:21Triple H, he's known as maybe the greatest technical

00:06:23WWE champion that we've ever had!

00:06:25Cactus Jack is as hardcore as anybody could ever be!

00:06:29I think that's why it meshed together well

00:06:31to make beautiful physical chemistry.

00:06:34My God, their bodies have been ravaged,

00:06:37but they continue to fight here!

00:06:38Two men with a keen hatred for each other!

00:06:41And they're not just the best at getting brutal,

00:06:43they're the best at telling stories.

00:06:46Cactus Jack!

00:06:48I sure as hell am not a normal man!

00:06:51The myth!

00:06:53What I am is one bad son of a bitch!

00:06:56The legend!

00:06:57And I will make you suffer!

00:06:59As sadistic as you can be!

00:07:03I will kick your pansy little ass!

00:07:06I will reach down to a place

00:07:08that I have never been in my life

00:07:12and be that much more sadistic!

00:07:14Be that much more twisted!

00:07:17Be that much more evil

00:07:19than you could ever imagine

00:07:21you could be in your life!

00:07:24You're willing to go all out

00:07:26and you got a guy across the ring from you

00:07:28that's willing to do the same?

00:07:30Chances are you're gonna rock the world.

00:07:32That's what they did.

00:07:33You've got to give these two men

00:07:36supreme credit

00:07:37for what they have put themselves through!

00:07:41I have never seen anything like this!

00:07:43Unbelievable!

00:07:44This is time!

00:08:04What started on television

00:08:26wasn't the really beginning of the feud.

00:08:28Taz and Sabu were both coming in.

00:08:30Both were largely unknown to the larger audience.

00:08:33They were known to niche audiences around the country

00:08:35and in Japan and different places.

00:08:38But both of those guys I think

00:08:39were running some kind of

00:08:41in their head personal race with each other.

00:08:44I'm better than him,

00:08:44he's better than me,

00:08:45or he's trying to be better than me,

00:08:46whatever.

00:08:47So it started in the dressing room.

00:08:48I never saw those two talking.

00:08:51These two, you could tell,

00:08:52didn't really fancy each other.

00:08:54They weren't best of friends

00:08:55and their personalities were so different.

00:08:57It's really difficult to fake that.

00:08:59You could see that there was

00:09:01some sort of tension between these two.

00:09:03And I think that's part of what made it work so well.

00:09:05I don't like the looks of this.

00:09:07Taz's style in the ring,

00:09:09as far as I was concerned,

00:09:09was the most straightforward ground attack

00:09:12of anybody that ever wrestled.

00:09:13Taz brought all that old school style,

00:09:15the crispness of the moves,

00:09:17the energy that came to each spot.

00:09:19And they would always culminate

00:09:20with this incredibly explosion of power

00:09:22in these suplexes.

00:09:23We have met the most animalistic wrestler

00:09:29in the history of this sport.

00:09:31We have met Sad Boo.

00:09:33Get him out of here.

00:09:34When you've been around the wrestling business

00:09:36as long as I have been,

00:09:37over three decades now,

00:09:38very few things can excite you.

00:09:40The first time I saw Sad Boo

00:09:41hit his triple jump moonsault

00:09:43and, you know,

00:09:43set the chair up.

00:09:44I couldn't figure out what he's doing.

00:09:45The guy's laying there

00:09:46and sets the chair up.

00:09:47It just didn't look right.

00:09:48And he ran the other way.

00:09:50John picked the chair,

00:09:51top rope,

00:09:52and I remember just exploding

00:09:53up out of the chair like a fan.

00:09:55Thinking,

00:09:56my God,

00:09:56that's impressive.

00:09:58And so all of those elements

00:09:59come into play.

00:10:00You have Sad Boo,

00:10:00this homicidal,

00:10:01genocidal maniac

00:10:02doing all these crazy moves

00:10:04and throwing his body in the line.

00:10:06And then you have Taz,

00:10:07the human suplex machine.

00:10:09And all of those elements

00:10:10sort of pulled together

00:10:11in this nice,

00:10:13neat little ball

00:10:14that the fans really

00:10:15became very passionate about.

00:10:18For one year,

00:10:20one miserable year,

00:10:22I have been choking out

00:10:23man after man

00:10:25after man.

00:10:27There's one thing left to do

00:10:29and there's one man left

00:10:31for me

00:10:32to choke out.

00:10:34There's only

00:10:34one little thing

00:10:36stopping Saboo.

00:10:38Fear!

00:10:40Saboo!

00:10:41Fear's Taz!

00:10:44Saboo felt

00:10:45on it that

00:10:46there was no reason

00:10:48for him to respond to it.

00:10:50You know,

00:10:50some people,

00:10:51some of the boys

00:10:52in the dressing room

00:10:52believed that maybe

00:10:53Saboo was afraid of him

00:10:54or whatever.

00:10:55I think Taz was going more

00:10:56from that wrestling idea

00:10:58of I'm going to keep

00:10:58calling out

00:10:59and just making fun of you

00:11:00and trying to make you

00:11:01look foolish

00:11:02and eventually

00:11:03you'll respond.

00:11:04Just imagine

00:11:05what I could do to you

00:11:06if you ever had the guts

00:11:08to get in the ring with me.

00:11:10The longer you make me wait,

00:11:14the more vicious

00:11:15the f***ing ass

00:11:16kicking you time.

00:11:19Saboo was much more

00:11:20concerned with getting

00:11:21his stuff in

00:11:22and in that

00:11:2312, 14 month build up

00:11:25he had some pretty

00:11:25amazing matches.

00:11:26He built his own lore

00:11:28over here

00:11:28and I think that's also

00:11:30part of the reason

00:11:30why the angle

00:11:31worked so well

00:11:32because Saboo

00:11:34was building

00:11:34his whole legacy

00:11:35in ECW over here.

00:11:37Taz was calling him out

00:11:38but Taz was also

00:11:39building his own legacy

00:11:40on this side

00:11:41and so it wasn't just

00:11:42wrestler A

00:11:42versus wrestler B

00:11:43it was legacy

00:11:45versus legacy

00:11:46these two giants

00:11:47of ECW

00:11:48that had laid themselves

00:11:49out of being

00:11:49what ECW

00:11:50was supposed to be

00:11:51and they finally met

00:11:52like two massive storms

00:11:54running into each other.

00:11:55Saboo!

00:11:56I'm gonna choke you out!

00:12:01See you on the 13th!

00:12:08Ladies and gentlemen

00:12:09Extreme Championship Wrestling

00:12:12presents

00:12:13the Grudge Match

00:12:14of the Century!

00:12:16As excited as I was

00:12:17for the pay-per-view

00:12:18and for the company

00:12:18I was more as a fan

00:12:20excited to see

00:12:21these two come together

00:12:22to see what was gonna happen

00:12:23between these two

00:12:23because I knew

00:12:24you know

00:12:25they both had

00:12:26this amazing approach

00:12:28to this angle

00:12:29that had built up

00:12:30and it was finally

00:12:31coming to fruition.

00:12:33These two men

00:12:33want to get rocked

00:12:34and if you think

00:12:35you know pro wrestling

00:12:36if you think

00:12:37you're smart and trained

00:12:38I'll tell you something

00:12:40these two men

00:12:41hate each other!

00:12:42When I saw those two

00:12:43standing face to face

00:12:44you could literally

00:12:46cut the tension

00:12:47with the knife

00:12:48it was so thick

00:12:50and palpable

00:12:50in the building.

00:12:51The fans had invested

00:12:52so much emotional time

00:12:54into watching

00:12:55these two lions

00:12:56their paths

00:12:58run concurrent

00:12:58so when they finally

00:13:00met face to face

00:13:01it truly was

00:13:02the immovable object

00:13:03meeting the irresistible

00:13:04force in ECW

00:13:05the human suplex machine

00:13:07versus the homicidal

00:13:08suicidal

00:13:08genocidal

00:13:09saboo

00:13:09it was everything

00:13:11ECW was meant to be.

00:13:13And there it is!

00:13:14The cat to hide Jermaine!

00:13:15The transmission!

00:13:16It wasn't just the

00:13:27exclamation point

00:13:28at the end of the sentence

00:13:29it was

00:13:30there's all this

00:13:31and that was pretty cool

00:13:33now what more

00:13:34are we going to get from it?

00:13:35You saboo

00:13:36you I need

00:13:38you I need

00:13:40to keep me going

00:13:41you're my fuel

00:13:44Saboo

00:13:45bring it

00:13:46each of their matches

00:13:47and each of the layers

00:13:48of that story

00:13:49like an onion being

00:13:50peeled away

00:13:50Saboo was always

00:13:52good enough

00:13:53to get in the ring

00:13:55and on his side

00:13:57of the equation

00:13:57just throw that

00:13:59you know

00:14:00for lack of better

00:14:01terminology

00:14:01organized chaos

00:14:02into the ring

00:14:04and Taz

00:14:05has that

00:14:06you know

00:14:06that pent up

00:14:07rage that seems

00:14:08to be blowing in

00:14:09somewhere under the surface

00:14:10so anytime you put

00:14:11those parts

00:14:12of the chemistry equation

00:14:13into the pot

00:14:14and just put a little bit

00:14:15of the heat under it

00:14:16it's really easy

00:14:17to make it work

00:14:17You are witnessing

00:14:19yet another epic battle

00:14:21in the war

00:14:22the war that has been

00:14:24waged

00:14:24for years

00:14:26here at ECW

00:14:28between the suicidal

00:14:29homicidal

00:14:30genocidal

00:14:31maniac taboo

00:14:33and the human suplex

00:14:35machine tech

00:14:36This is one of these

00:14:37seminal moments

00:14:39in the company

00:14:40when two wrestlers

00:14:41come together

00:14:42and the company

00:14:43puts them out there

00:14:44and all the pieces

00:14:45of the puzzle

00:14:46fit in right

00:14:46the company put in

00:14:47the right mixture

00:14:47of time

00:14:48into the storyline

00:14:49and the build up

00:14:51and then allowed it

00:14:52to stir and sit

00:14:53just long enough

00:14:53that it became explosive

00:14:55and when those two

00:14:57stood in the ring

00:14:57face to face

00:14:58I'll challenge any fan

00:15:00whether they've seen it

00:15:00or not

00:15:01to go back

00:15:01and watch that

00:15:0230 second

00:15:03when they're standing there

00:15:04and Taz's hands

00:15:05are trembling

00:15:06and shaking

00:15:06and just sit back

00:15:07and watch and feel

00:15:09how that goes

00:15:10even if you do nothing

00:15:10at the build up

00:15:11but if you want to get

00:15:13the full feel for it

00:15:14go back and watch

00:15:15the build up

00:15:15to that match

00:15:16and then watch

00:15:17that face to face

00:15:18and you tell me

00:15:20if you don't think

00:15:20that belongs

00:15:21in the pantheon

00:15:22of the great angles

00:15:23over wrestling

00:15:23Eddie and Ray

00:15:39came up in the careers

00:15:41very similar

00:15:41because they were

00:15:43trained through family

00:15:44they had a love

00:15:45for the business

00:15:45you know

00:15:46they grew up in it

00:15:47you know

00:15:47from diapers

00:15:48their friendship

00:15:49had started in Mexico

00:15:50when Eddie was training there

00:15:51they knew of each other

00:15:52and I think just by

00:15:53traveling

00:15:54and seeing each other

00:15:55at shows

00:15:55they loved each other

00:15:57as friends

00:15:57you know

00:15:58there was a great respect

00:15:59the feud between

00:16:01Eddie and Ray

00:16:01in 97

00:16:02was incredible

00:16:03because they brought

00:16:04the lucha libre style

00:16:06into the ring

00:16:06Eddie Guerrero

00:16:07Ray Mysterio Jr.

00:16:09they are not

00:16:10straighters at all

00:16:11the stuff they did

00:16:12you know

00:16:12like the dives

00:16:13and the flips

00:16:15and turns

00:16:15you know

00:16:16they were doing each other

00:16:16it was a different style

00:16:18than versus

00:16:18what the big guy

00:16:19would do

00:16:20that was one

00:16:21for the highlight reel

00:16:22of the year

00:16:22right there guys

00:16:23that's one great thing

00:16:25about Ray Mysterio Jr.

00:16:26and Eddie

00:16:26something new every time

00:16:28oh

00:16:29you know

00:16:30they

00:16:30they proved to everyone

00:16:31that they could entertain

00:16:33and show their talent

00:16:34and be

00:16:35these two great superstars

00:16:36that gave their 100%

00:16:37LWO

00:16:49Latino World Order

00:16:51together we can do this

00:16:54Latino World Order

00:16:55Eddie felt very confident

00:16:57and he believed in this LWO

00:16:59because

00:16:59that's his culture

00:17:00it's his people

00:17:01it's what he

00:17:02it's who he was

00:17:03I want you

00:17:05to be part of us

00:17:06I run on my own

00:17:08wow

00:17:10how about

00:17:11how about that

00:17:12I was kind of upset

00:17:13that Ray didn't want

00:17:14to join it

00:17:14but I think that made

00:17:15a great story

00:17:16because there's that rivalry

00:17:17you have turned

00:17:18LWO down

00:17:20twice

00:17:22so we can either

00:17:23do this the hard way

00:17:24or the easy way

00:17:26I'm gonna do it

00:17:27the hard way

00:17:28anything for a good story

00:17:32was good for the people

00:17:33and it was good

00:17:34for our business

00:17:35wait a minute

00:17:45619 for Mysterio

00:17:47Eddie into the cover

00:17:49here are your winners

00:17:52and the new

00:17:54WWE Tag Team Champions

00:17:59Eddie Guerrero

00:18:01and Ray Mysterio

00:18:04Ray and Eddie

00:18:07had a great time

00:18:08you know

00:18:09to combine their talents

00:18:11and their skills

00:18:13I would call Mysterio

00:18:14and Guerrero

00:18:15a dream team

00:18:17arguably

00:18:18two of the greatest

00:18:19Latino wrestlers

00:18:20in the history

00:18:21of world wrestling entertainment

00:18:23I was impressed

00:18:24and I was entertained

00:18:25every night

00:18:25when those two got together

00:18:26for the first time

00:18:31in Wrestlemania history

00:18:32two Tag Team Champions

00:18:34will go one-on-one

00:18:36with each other

00:18:37they loved to show off

00:18:39and they knew

00:18:40that they two

00:18:41could get together

00:18:41and have a great match

00:18:43unbelievable athleticism

00:18:45look at this

00:18:46these men know each other

00:18:47so well

00:18:48but the great thing

00:18:51about Eddie and Ray

00:18:52that I remember

00:18:52is there wasn't a lot

00:18:53of like

00:18:54okay we're gonna do this

00:18:55this and this and that

00:18:55they knew that

00:18:56when they got out there

00:18:57they were gonna feel it

00:18:58and they were gonna go

00:18:59however their heart desired

00:19:00you know

00:19:01and that's

00:19:01I think that's where

00:19:02they show their true talent

00:19:04and the true love

00:19:05for the business

00:19:05because they

00:19:06they had confidence

00:19:08within themselves

00:19:08hey Ray

00:19:21do you remember

00:19:24when all this

00:19:25started between us

00:19:26I promised you

00:19:27you'd get hurt

00:19:28that feud

00:19:29was so much fun

00:19:30between Eddie and Ray

00:19:31when Dominic

00:19:32became into the picture

00:19:33of this custody battle

00:19:35Dominic

00:19:36Ray

00:19:38is not your father

00:19:39I'm your father

00:19:43Dominic

00:19:44I'm your puppy

00:19:47Dominic

00:19:48was a true

00:19:49natural actor

00:19:50he didn't get nervous

00:19:52and I think Ray

00:19:53was more nervous

00:19:54than Dominic

00:19:55ladies and gentlemen

00:19:56for the first time

00:19:57in the history

00:19:57of the WWE

00:19:58the custody of a child

00:20:00will be determined

00:20:01in a ladder match

00:20:02it was a story

00:20:04that was beyond

00:20:05what we could ever imagine

00:20:07and to work with

00:20:08Dominic and Ray

00:20:09Eddie had a great time

00:20:10with them

00:20:11come on Ray

00:20:14yeah

00:20:15yeah

00:20:16yeah

00:20:16Ray Mysterio

00:20:19has his son back

00:20:20it was an incredible success

00:20:23their style

00:20:27was something

00:20:28that no one could touch

00:20:29out there

00:20:29and they

00:20:30they were proud of that

00:20:31you know that style

00:20:32that they could bring

00:20:33to the ring

00:20:33and I was looking forward

00:20:35to it because

00:20:35they were amazing

00:20:37out there

00:20:37and their work

00:20:38was untouchable

00:20:39has professional wrestling

00:20:55has world class

00:20:58or anybody

00:20:59ever seen

00:21:00this kind of feud

00:21:02I was a huge fan

00:21:04of the

00:21:04Abdullah the Butcher

00:21:05Bruiser Brody rivalry

00:21:07it was a type of thing

00:21:08that you would show

00:21:09your cynical friends

00:21:10and they go

00:21:11ah that wrestling

00:21:12oh whatever

00:21:13and then you go

00:21:13yeah

00:21:14take a look at this

00:21:15this is not a pretty event

00:21:17this is not one of

00:21:19scientific or wrestling

00:21:21academia

00:21:22but on the disclaimers

00:21:24for the children

00:21:25Brody and

00:21:26Abdullah matches

00:21:28would be like

00:21:29street fights

00:21:30that were

00:21:31somehow enjoyable

00:21:32and it looks like

00:21:33the whole arena

00:21:35has been hit by a tornado

00:21:36as they continue

00:21:37to battle

00:21:38and smash

00:21:39and pummel each other

00:21:40you know you're not

00:21:41supposed to enjoy it

00:21:42but you somehow do

00:21:42the lives of these men

00:21:44endangered

00:21:45nobody else

00:21:47was going to do

00:21:47the things

00:21:48that these guys did

00:21:49and the realism

00:21:50these guys brought

00:21:51to their art form

00:21:52was

00:21:53it was

00:21:54it was impressive

00:21:55and now Bruiser

00:21:57that you will go after

00:21:58this war has been

00:22:00going on a long time

00:22:01as long as the guys

00:22:03had that look

00:22:03in their eyes

00:22:04as long as they had it

00:22:05you know in their

00:22:06it comes from the heart

00:22:07it's

00:22:07the eyes are not

00:22:08something you can fake

00:22:09it really is not

00:22:11something you can fake

00:22:11and as long as they

00:22:13had that

00:22:13in their heart

00:22:14and could express it

00:22:15in their eyes

00:22:17they were going to be

00:22:18money anywhere they went

00:22:19you make it a point

00:22:20to get Abdullah's name

00:22:22on a contract

00:22:23and I promise you

00:22:25you got Bruiser Brody

00:22:27any time you want it

00:22:29it was a legendary feud

00:22:30all over the world

00:22:31and the center of the feud

00:22:33this might be strange

00:22:34for people to understand

00:22:35center of the feud

00:22:37was Japan

00:22:38even if they were not

00:22:40actually feuding in Japan

00:22:41so these two men

00:22:43with this great feud

00:22:44would have to look

00:22:45as strong as possible

00:22:47in front of the

00:22:47Japanese photographers

00:22:48who were at

00:22:49almost every one

00:22:50of their matches

00:22:51these two have had

00:22:52some classic

00:22:53confrontations

00:22:54over the last

00:22:5513 months

00:22:56I patterned a lot

00:22:57of what I did

00:22:58after Bruiser Brody

00:22:59he was brutality

00:23:01and madness

00:23:02personified

00:23:03think of me

00:23:05with more athleticism

00:23:07and a meaner streak

00:23:09so if people liked

00:23:10what I did

00:23:11they would have loved

00:23:12what he did

00:23:13he was that good

00:23:14this thing that happened

00:23:15between Abdullah the Butcher

00:23:16and Bruiser Brody

00:23:18is the thing that's been

00:23:19brought on by

00:23:20of course Gary Hart

00:23:21Gary added a controlling agent

00:23:23he needed somebody

00:23:25to do the talking

00:23:26because he didn't talk

00:23:27we're gonna destroy you tonight

00:23:29it's going to be

00:23:30Abdullah the Butcher

00:23:31inside a steel cage

00:23:33with Bruiser Brody

00:23:35Gary Hart continues

00:23:36continues to blow rabbits

00:23:38out of the hat

00:23:38when it comes time

00:23:39to finding the talented

00:23:41but unusual individuals

00:23:43if you were to ask anybody

00:23:44who is the craziest person

00:23:46in wrestling

00:23:46maybe Brody was

00:23:48two or three or four

00:23:49but everyone would go

00:23:50that guy

00:23:51Abdullah the Butcher

00:23:52Abdullah the Butcher

00:23:54has one of the nastiest

00:23:55reputations

00:23:56ever pinned on

00:23:57a professional wrestler

00:23:58since the beginning

00:23:59of the sport

00:24:00he'd be going

00:24:01with the classic fork

00:24:02to the forehead

00:24:03and he'd be willing

00:24:04to turn it on

00:24:06he's got that object again

00:24:08nobody was going

00:24:11to inspire

00:24:12the type of fear

00:24:14that Abdullah did

00:24:15almost instantly

00:24:17the dreaded

00:24:17Abdullah the Butcher

00:24:18who's barred

00:24:19in many parts of the world

00:24:21I loved the match

00:24:22to the point where

00:24:23when I was a freshman

00:24:24in college

00:24:24I put a picture

00:24:25of Abdullah the Butcher

00:24:27on my wall

00:24:27and told people

00:24:29he was my father

00:24:30I had a whole backstory

00:24:32about an adoption

00:24:33and I repeated

00:24:34that lie so often

00:24:36that everyone

00:24:37in Fitzgerald Hall

00:24:38would say

00:24:38did you know

00:24:39that Mick Foley's father

00:24:40is this wrestling guy

00:24:41who was not known

00:24:42in the northeast

00:24:42at that time

00:24:43Abdullah the Butcher

00:24:44the madman

00:24:45out of the Sudan

00:24:46who has destroyed

00:24:47everybody

00:24:48and everything

00:24:49in front of him

00:24:50he had the ability

00:24:51to scare people

00:24:52around the globe

00:24:53and yet he was

00:24:54a man so classy

00:24:56he once held in a fart

00:24:58for 400 miles

00:24:59so as not to offend

00:25:00my wife

00:25:00I'm sure somewhere

00:25:08if you looked hard enough

00:25:10you would find

00:25:10some match

00:25:11between the two

00:25:12where one man

00:25:14didn't bleed

00:25:15it's highly unlikely

00:25:17you'd find a match

00:25:17where both men

00:25:18didn't bleed

00:25:19that was kind of

00:25:20a calling card

00:25:21for that feud

00:25:22Abdullah was proud

00:25:25of the fact

00:25:26that he could go

00:25:26to the poker table

00:25:27and keep his chips

00:25:28in the grooves

00:25:30in his head

00:25:30and Brody

00:25:32wasn't very far behind

00:25:33this is gonna be

00:25:35a wild match

00:25:36there was a place

00:25:37in world class

00:25:38at the sport tournament

00:25:39called the Eagle's Nest

00:25:40where wrestlers

00:25:42could go

00:25:42before or after

00:25:43the matches

00:25:43and watch

00:25:44what else was taking place

00:25:46in the ring

00:25:47and the nest

00:25:48was never empty

00:25:49when Abdullah

00:25:50and Brody

00:25:51did their thing

00:25:51they're over there

00:25:52next to one of our cameras

00:25:54up on a platform

00:25:55I hope they don't

00:25:56knock it down

00:25:57probably the safest

00:25:59place to be

00:26:00because you really

00:26:01didn't

00:26:01you didn't know

00:26:02you didn't know

00:26:03what was going

00:26:04to happen

00:26:05we're not gonna

00:26:06be able to pick up

00:26:07any more of this

00:26:09so we're gonna

00:26:10get out

00:26:10before it gets worse

00:26:12I'm not sure

00:26:14if I so much

00:26:15drew inspiration

00:26:16from Abdullah

00:26:17and Brody

00:26:17as much as I

00:26:18blatantly stole

00:26:20yeah I love

00:26:23I love the matches

00:26:24it's getting dangerous

00:26:25Farah's just going

00:26:26toe to toe

00:26:27and bringing realism

00:26:29and barbarity

00:26:31everywhere they went

00:26:33a sense of

00:26:34uncontrolled

00:26:35yet controlled mayhem

00:26:36it's

00:26:37one of the best

00:26:38blood feuds

00:26:39of all time

00:26:40Hulk Hogan

00:26:57the epitome

00:26:59of good guy

00:27:00all the speeches

00:27:02he gave

00:27:03eat your vitamins

00:27:04say your prayers

00:27:05brother

00:27:05the Hulk

00:27:07is the personification

00:27:08of all the

00:27:08traditional

00:27:09American virtues

00:27:11like honesty

00:27:12hard work

00:27:13and loyalty

00:27:14to his millions

00:27:15of fans

00:27:15he was it

00:27:17man

00:27:17you loved Hulk Hogan

00:27:19if you didn't love

00:27:19Hulk Hogan

00:27:20something was wrong

00:27:21with you

00:27:21and then there was

00:27:23Roddy Piper

00:27:23what an idiot

00:27:26I love Roddy Piper

00:27:29but he was the

00:27:31absolute total

00:27:32opposite of Hulk Hogan

00:27:34you were just

00:27:34waiting

00:27:35for these two

00:27:36individuals

00:27:37to eventually

00:27:38butt heads

00:27:38it was a true

00:27:39good versus evil

00:27:41and everybody

00:27:42was in Hulk's corner

00:27:43the future

00:27:44of professional

00:27:45wrestling

00:27:45is me

00:27:46the future

00:27:47of rock and roll

00:27:48is down the toilet

00:27:49so when WWE

00:27:53decides to

00:27:54ring in

00:27:54and use

00:27:55celebrities

00:27:56these celebrities

00:27:57were extremely

00:27:58well known

00:27:59by other fans

00:28:00outside of wrestling

00:28:02I'm so grateful

00:28:03to receive this award

00:28:05just a minute

00:28:07Roddy

00:28:07yeah Roddy

00:28:08one second

00:28:09please

00:28:10even though

00:28:11it was me

00:28:12that set this up

00:28:13and it was me

00:28:15that started it

00:28:15I want to present you

00:28:17with this

00:28:17look at Roddy Piper

00:28:21who's just gone

00:28:22that ended up being

00:28:24a big part of the

00:28:26the Hogan

00:28:27Piper feud

00:28:28Cindy Lauper

00:28:29is down

00:28:30David Wolf

00:28:31is down

00:28:32Hulkster came in

00:28:33and they immediately

00:28:34left the ringer

00:28:35who knows

00:28:36what might have

00:28:37happened here

00:28:38when Roddy

00:28:38Roddy Piper

00:28:39took it upon himself

00:28:40to ruin the whole

00:28:41beautiful thing

00:28:42put the boost

00:28:43to Cindy Lauper

00:28:43crippled Dave Wolf

00:28:45scared

00:28:45Dick Clark

00:28:46to death

00:28:47he'll never be the same

00:28:48the war to settle

00:28:51the score

00:28:52the hottest ticket

00:28:53in town

00:28:5323,000 strong

00:28:56not a one of them

00:28:57in their seats

00:28:58look at these two men

00:29:00go in and tooth and nail

00:29:01Hogan wins by DQ

00:29:03and then here comes

00:29:04Mr. T

00:29:05and Cindy Lauper

00:29:06wait a minute

00:29:07hold on

00:29:08Mr. T over the railing

00:29:10oh no

00:29:11oh

00:29:11that's what made Hogan

00:29:15an immediate household name

00:29:17it was great to see

00:29:19Mr. T come in here

00:29:20and help the Hulk

00:29:21I mean it was incredible

00:29:22Hulk is gonna put you down man

00:29:25he's gonna put you down

00:29:26so low

00:29:27you're gonna have to look up

00:29:28to see his skirt

00:29:29bring the little black man

00:29:30bring him into the ring

00:29:31bring the big blonde man

00:29:32and come on

00:29:33but I'll take him by myself

00:29:34this is the first Wrestlemania

00:29:36you dead meat

00:29:37you dead meat

00:29:38I pity you fool

00:29:39big scars to be settled here

00:29:41as Wrestlemania makes history

00:29:43I hate all of you

00:29:46and the best part about it is

00:29:49I get to pay you all back

00:29:51in one single light

00:29:52I don't even have to meet you

00:29:54one on one

00:29:54it must have been just magical

00:29:57to be there

00:29:57people jumping and crying

00:29:59and everybody in the world

00:30:01was talking about it

00:30:02I have never seen anything like this

00:30:05in my entire life

00:30:06it needed to be that big

00:30:09because it's what made Wrestlemania

00:30:11what it is today

00:30:12that was like

00:30:19the first

00:30:20magical Wrestlemania

00:30:22moment

00:30:22and I think a lot of

00:30:24the success that we've had

00:30:26was generated

00:30:27from that one night

00:30:28in Madison Square Garden

00:30:29what excitement and action

00:30:35and what extraordinary athletes

00:30:37that's what I want to replicate

00:30:39you know

00:30:40I want to draw that emotion

00:30:42I want to

00:30:42I want to wrestle on that

00:30:44grandest stage too

00:30:45you know

00:30:45and have people talking about me

00:30:4720, 30 years from now

00:30:49unbelievable

00:30:50play the whole thing

00:30:51we love it

00:30:52honestly I believe

00:30:53the Hogan-Piper rivalry

00:30:55is what created

00:30:57Hulkamania

00:30:58it's what started Hogan

00:31:00so

00:31:00he can thank Roddy

00:31:01now Piper's specialty

00:31:12was spewing hot air

00:31:14on the microphone

00:31:15the periodic table

00:31:16calls that helium

00:31:17so while that helps

00:31:19to identify Piper

00:31:20I would say that Hogan

00:31:21was undoubtedly

00:31:22the equivalent

00:31:23to Francium

00:31:24which is the earth's

00:31:26rarest element

00:31:26because I mean

00:31:27let's face it here

00:31:28WWE had never seen

00:31:30a star of his magnitude

00:31:31up until that point

00:31:32Hogan and Piper

00:31:34were two stars

00:31:35on the opposite ends

00:31:36of the spectrum

00:31:36and 20 years after

00:31:38their famed rivalry

00:31:39you could see

00:31:40the evolution of WWE

00:31:41when a similar rivalry began

00:31:43now we had John Cena

00:31:45in essence here

00:31:46playing the part

00:31:46of Hulk Hogan

00:31:47and CM Punk

00:31:48doing his best

00:31:49Rowdy Roddy Piper

00:31:50imitation

00:31:51now John Cena

00:31:52been the face of WWE

00:31:53for 10 years strong

00:31:55on his slogan

00:31:56of hustle

00:31:57loyalty

00:31:57and respect

00:31:58but

00:31:59in this day and age

00:32:00Cena's message

00:32:01just doesn't resonate

00:32:02with everyone

00:32:03and it was seen

00:32:04as polarizing figure

00:32:05that was just

00:32:06the perfect recipe

00:32:07for the disrespected

00:32:09CM Punk

00:32:10now Punk

00:32:11he could be equated

00:32:12to polonium

00:32:13which is considered

00:32:15by many

00:32:15to be the most

00:32:16radioactive

00:32:16of all of the elements

00:32:18Punk has been called

00:32:19the voice of the voiceless

00:32:21and dubbing himself

00:32:22the best in the world

00:32:24left no doubt

00:32:25where he thought

00:32:26he should be positioned

00:32:27within the company

00:32:27but John Cena

00:32:29would not lie down

00:32:29except Punk's lofty claim

00:32:31you had two totally

00:32:33different substances

00:32:34made up of unique compositions

00:32:35vying for that gold

00:32:37but that's about

00:32:38as good as it gets

00:32:39I was hanging

00:32:52off of your gangster car

00:32:54Wrestlemania 22

00:32:56as it rolled down

00:32:57in Chicago, Illinois

00:32:58and I stood there

00:32:59holding a phony

00:33:00Tommy gun

00:33:01and I said to myself

00:33:02someday

00:33:03I was gonna be

00:33:04standing in the ring

00:33:05watching you

00:33:07go down

00:33:08to CM Punk

00:33:09John Cena

00:33:13is front and center

00:33:14for WWE

00:33:15John Cena

00:33:15is the poster boy

00:33:16for Vince McMahon's

00:33:17vision

00:33:18of what WWE

00:33:19is supposed to be

00:33:20I do not

00:33:22back down

00:33:22from any challenge

00:33:24I fear nothing

00:33:25and regret less

00:33:26He is

00:33:28WWE

00:33:2924-7

00:33:31365

00:33:31I stand before you

00:33:34a champion

00:33:35because I never

00:33:35have given up

00:33:36There is no Luke Skywalker

00:33:44without Darth Vader

00:33:45There is no Batman

00:33:48without the Joker

00:33:49and there is no

00:33:50John Cena

00:33:51without CM Punk

00:33:54I have

00:33:59a lot of things

00:34:00I want to get

00:34:01off my chest

00:34:02It never

00:34:03would have happened

00:34:04if CM Punk

00:34:05didn't break

00:34:06every taboo

00:34:07in the book

00:34:08I don't hate you

00:34:11John

00:34:12I hate

00:34:13this idea

00:34:14that you're

00:34:15the best

00:34:16There's one thing

00:34:18you're better at

00:34:19than I am

00:34:20and that's

00:34:21kissing

00:34:22Vince McMahon's ass

00:34:23That pipe bomb

00:34:24was the career

00:34:25defining moment

00:34:26for CM Punk

00:34:27It's the moment

00:34:27that he broke

00:34:28through the glass ceiling

00:34:29That's right

00:34:30I'm a Paul Heyman guy

00:34:31The handcuffs

00:34:33were off

00:34:33It was the moment

00:34:35that everyone

00:34:36knew

00:34:37this guy is different

00:34:39He's not just

00:34:40one of the pack

00:34:41I'm leaving

00:34:43with the WWE

00:34:44championship

00:34:45on July 17th

00:34:47It's a very

00:34:49compelling situation

00:34:50because these are

00:34:51truly two

00:34:53top stars

00:34:54This is the

00:34:55Austin Rock

00:34:56of this generation

00:34:58They both have

00:34:59the ambition

00:34:59and the drive

00:35:00and the desire

00:35:01to be the absolute

00:35:03best at what they do

00:35:04You had a very

00:35:08unique circumstance

00:35:09walking into

00:35:10Money in the Bank

00:35:10in Chicago

00:35:11You had

00:35:12a villain

00:35:13who was in his hometown

00:35:15loved

00:35:17beyond description

00:35:19You had a guy

00:35:24that was going

00:35:25to leave

00:35:26WWE at midnight

00:35:28CM Punk

00:35:29is leaving

00:35:30this company

00:35:31and he may be

00:35:32doing it

00:35:33with the WWE title

00:35:35GTS connecting

00:35:38GTS connecting

00:35:39Oh my God

00:35:41CM Punk is going to

00:35:43leave Chicago

00:35:44with the WWE

00:35:45championship

00:35:46Admit

00:35:58that I am the best

00:36:00in the world

00:36:01I am not here

00:36:02to stroke your ego

00:36:04You got no respect

00:36:06for that

00:36:06and no respect

00:36:07for you

00:36:08You think because

00:36:09you have this

00:36:09you are justified

00:36:11respect

00:36:12no the reason

00:36:13you have that

00:36:14and have kept it

00:36:14is by any means

00:36:16necessary

00:36:16and that does not

00:36:17define a champion

00:36:18in my eyes

00:36:19You are an ignorant

00:36:20son of a bitch

00:36:21and you need

00:36:22a little bit

00:36:24of respect

00:36:25The champ

00:36:31is here

00:36:33For the first time

00:36:36in WWE history

00:36:38there are two

00:36:39WWE champions

00:36:41so John Cena

00:36:50wasn't the real champion

00:36:51and yet

00:36:52he couldn't back down

00:36:54had to hold

00:36:55that title up high

00:36:56I think it's a testament

00:36:57to the man

00:36:58that John Cena is

00:36:59that he was willing

00:37:00to stand there

00:37:01with his head

00:37:03held high

00:37:03and the title

00:37:04held high

00:37:05You like the Red Sox

00:37:11no longer the underdog

00:37:13You're a dynasty

00:37:14You are what you hate

00:37:16You have become

00:37:18the New York Yankees

00:37:21CM Punk can get underneath

00:37:25anybody's skin

00:37:26because CM Punk

00:37:27speaks the truth

00:37:28CM Punk will confront you

00:37:29with the truth

00:37:30whether you want to hear it

00:37:31or not

00:37:31and sometimes

00:37:32the truth

00:37:33to a man

00:37:34isn't pretty

00:37:35Am I smug?

00:37:37Yeah

00:37:38You know what?

00:37:39Absolutely

00:37:39I don't wear a white hat

00:37:40I'm kind of a jerk

00:37:41I'm here to stay

00:37:43and I'm here to do things

00:37:44my way

00:37:44Great psychological tactic

00:37:47by CM Punk

00:37:48Jeez

00:37:50CM Punk

00:37:51were Yankee pinstripes

00:37:52in Boston?

00:37:57Little silvership

00:37:58Michael

00:37:58I am the best

00:38:01wrestler

00:38:03in the world

00:38:04CM Punk's motto

00:38:06is to survive today

00:38:07to fight tomorrow

00:38:08and John Cena

00:38:09is willing to go down

00:38:10in a blaze of glory

00:38:11and CM Punk

00:38:13is the survivor

00:38:13that will end up

00:38:15writing their history

00:38:17Brock Lesnar is a

00:38:37bona fide monster

00:38:38That's a dangerous

00:38:41human being

00:38:41ladies and gentlemen

00:38:42Brock had such a

00:38:45incredible look

00:38:47like a

00:38:48Kodiak bear

00:38:49I don't know what to tell you

00:38:49but he just looked

00:38:50so impressive

00:38:51Brock Lesnar is just

00:38:53straight up

00:38:54animal

00:38:55I thought he was

00:38:56like a refrigerator

00:38:57with a flat top

00:38:58I mean he

00:38:58he just looked

00:39:00so chiseled

00:39:01and the strength of this

00:39:03and the strength of this

00:39:03Brock Lesnar

00:39:04good god almighty

00:39:06I was very blown away

00:39:09by what a presence

00:39:10he's had

00:39:10I've always been

00:39:12impressed with him

00:39:12I thought he's made

00:39:13the transition

00:39:14I thought that everything

00:39:15he did in wrestling

00:39:15was really good

00:39:17who will be able to stop

00:39:20the next big thing

00:39:22the thing I got from Brock

00:39:23is that he doesn't want to

00:39:24just give you a so-so match

00:39:26he wants to be

00:39:26he wants to be a great

00:39:27professional wrestler

00:39:28nobody can beat me

00:39:32he is the Olympic gold medalist

00:39:37Kurt Angle

00:39:38the franchise of Smackdown

00:39:40as I like to call him

00:39:41I was always a fan of his

00:39:43from the start

00:39:43for the simple reason

00:39:45that he

00:39:45because it's not

00:39:46it's not easy for an amateur wrestler

00:39:47to go into pro wrestling

00:39:48it's just a tough transformation

00:39:50where you've got to

00:39:51kind of have a different thinking

00:39:53no doubt Kurt Angle's the elite

00:39:55an amazing athletic performance

00:39:57this is wrestling

00:39:58ladies and gentlemen

00:39:59right here

00:40:00with Kurt and Brock

00:40:02they both came in

00:40:03with good attitudes

00:40:04and they both

00:40:05looked the part

00:40:06and they worked the part

00:40:08if you know that

00:40:08the backgrounds of the two

00:40:10that somehow

00:40:10that was going to unfold

00:40:11in the drama

00:40:12that they were going to put forth

00:40:13it's you and me Kurt

00:40:15right here

00:40:17right now

00:40:18you want to give these people

00:40:21the greatest match

00:40:22in WWE history

00:40:23you want to give these people

00:40:25Kurt Angle

00:40:26NCAA champion

00:40:28Olympic gold medalist

00:40:30and the greatest

00:40:31WWE champion ever

00:40:32versus Brock Lesnar

00:40:34this match

00:40:35we have been waiting for

00:40:36for months

00:40:37two of the most decorated

00:40:39athletes

00:40:40in WWE history

00:40:42and that's what it's all about

00:40:43the WWE title

00:40:45amateur wrestling is such a tough job

00:40:46maybe the toughest

00:40:47I think it's the toughest sport

00:40:49of them all

00:40:49bar none

00:40:51and to be in this position

00:40:52and do pro wrestling

00:40:53which is so much different

00:40:54than an amateur wrestling match

00:40:55and to have given it

00:40:57that flavor of amateur wrestling

00:41:01like I said

00:41:02I loved it

00:41:03Brock's wrestling such as a kid

00:41:04it shows Kurt

00:41:05so I mean this is

00:41:06in the red

00:41:06it's instinct

00:41:07for these two athletes

00:41:08two of the greatest

00:41:10amateur wrestlers

00:41:10come out of the United States

00:41:11giving this kind of performance

00:41:14in front of

00:41:14the Wrestlemania crowd

00:41:16it's just

00:41:17you know

00:41:18I had to stand

00:41:19back then

00:41:20and applaud

00:41:21that's what I miss

00:41:22and love about wrestling

00:41:23here's the come on

00:41:26to

00:41:27we have a new champion

00:41:29what I love about

00:41:32matches that they had

00:41:33was that

00:41:34they always

00:41:35made people like me

00:41:37that actually love

00:41:38the technical

00:41:39or the amateur wrestling

00:41:40type of wrestlers

00:41:41that make wrestling

00:41:42even more credible

00:41:44more real

00:41:44they

00:41:46brought that to life

00:41:47and

00:41:48put on a really good

00:41:49demonstration

00:41:50like it was Rick

00:41:51it was like

00:41:52that's how wrestling's

00:41:53supposed to be

00:41:54like Pat O'Connor

00:41:55and Luthes

00:41:55and these guys

00:41:56would

00:41:56tell these

00:41:58amateur

00:41:59pro wrestling

00:42:00type matches

00:42:01and submissions

00:42:02and you're watching

00:42:03Brock Lesnar

00:42:04and Kurt

00:42:05and it's like

00:42:05it's

00:42:07this is a throwback

00:42:08to that

00:42:08and that's

00:42:09I miss that a lot

00:42:11and for me

00:42:12as a fan

00:42:13I miss a lot

00:42:13of that kind of wrestling

00:42:14I know you Brock

00:42:16and you know me

00:42:16and I know you'll go

00:42:18full out

00:42:18to regain this title

00:42:19and I will too

00:42:21tonight

00:42:22it is a 60 minute

00:42:23Ironman match

00:42:24for the WWE Championship

00:42:26Brock Lesnar

00:42:27versus the champion

00:42:28Kurt Angle

00:42:29I thought Kurt

00:42:30really for a guy

00:42:31that was

00:42:32that wouldn't been

00:42:32in the business

00:42:33five six years

00:42:34I think around that time

00:42:35for Brock

00:42:36who may have been

00:42:36in a year or two

00:42:37I think they

00:42:38did everyone proud

00:42:39including themselves

00:42:40and the WWE

00:42:42and everybody

00:42:42I think

00:42:43and the fans

00:42:43got a great story

00:42:44both of them

00:42:45I thought brought

00:42:45a lot of integrity

00:42:46to the wrestling profession

00:42:47what a battle

00:42:51historic battle

00:42:52one hour

00:42:53there's two world class

00:42:55great athletes

00:42:56what a match

00:42:57for the wrestling industry

00:43:01to finally elevate

00:43:02two amateur wrestlers

00:43:03Olympic style wrestlers

00:43:04to this kind of stage

00:43:06and have the interest

00:43:08that they had

00:43:09I think

00:43:10as much as Brock's career

00:43:11has done well

00:43:12in the UFC

00:43:12I think

00:43:14where he really

00:43:15made himself

00:43:15and where he's never

00:43:16been any higher

00:43:17in that time period

00:43:18when he was fighting

00:43:19Kurt

00:43:19it was just

00:43:20he was the

00:43:22top of the heap

00:43:24in wrestling

00:43:25and I wish I could have

00:43:26worked with either

00:43:26one of those guys

00:43:27it is a rivalry

00:43:43that is rich in history

00:43:44that is lush in emotion

00:43:46and it's steered

00:43:47by personal

00:43:48animosity

00:43:49if you think about

00:43:50what caused

00:43:51initially

00:43:52the friction

00:43:53between Randy Orton

00:43:54and Triple H

00:43:55it really wasn't

00:43:57something that happened

00:43:58in 2009

00:43:59as much as it was

00:44:00something that happened

00:44:01in evolution

00:44:02you know

00:44:02Triple H said himself

00:44:03Randy Orton was the coal

00:44:05that was going to be

00:44:06squeezed

00:44:06into the next diamond

00:44:08at the age of 24

00:44:12I became

00:44:14the youngest

00:44:16world champion

00:44:18in WWE history

00:44:21it was the greatest

00:44:24moment

00:44:25in my life

00:44:27but it was short lived

00:44:29because the next night

00:44:31on Raw

00:44:32the man

00:44:32who was my mentor

00:44:35the man that claimed

00:44:36to be my friend

00:44:37turned on me

00:44:39in a fit

00:44:40of jealous rage

00:44:42I think

00:44:43the friction

00:44:44is the simple

00:44:45teacher

00:44:46student

00:44:47philosophy

00:44:48I think that's

00:44:49that's really

00:44:49what it was always about

00:44:50there were other elements

00:44:51that got involved

00:44:52but I think really

00:44:53when you look at it

00:44:54it was the teacher

00:44:55versus the student

00:44:56the student

00:44:57versus the teacher

00:44:57Triple H ruined

00:45:03my life

00:45:04so I made a vow

00:45:06to myself

00:45:07to ruin

00:45:08his

00:45:09Orton has ordained

00:45:12the ultimate sentence

00:45:14on the WWE champion

00:45:16it's Orton's law

00:45:18when I think about

00:45:19what made the rivalry

00:45:21so personal

00:45:22and had

00:45:26such a personal

00:45:28issue behind it

00:45:29I really think

00:45:30about how Randy

00:45:31pretty much

00:45:32picked off

00:45:33Triple H's family

00:45:35I had to take

00:45:37everything away

00:45:38from Triple H

00:45:39that he cared about

00:45:40and systematically

00:45:42destroy it

00:45:43so I chose

00:45:45his family

00:45:46he just punted

00:45:49the chairman

00:45:50of this company

00:45:51unbelievable

00:45:53action

00:45:54from Randy Orton

00:45:55Randy Orton

00:45:57is seeking

00:45:58to destroy

00:45:59the McMahon's

00:45:59the game

00:46:01is seething

00:46:01his body

00:46:03is quivering

00:46:03in anger

00:46:04Orton

00:46:05crossed the line

00:46:06when they can't

00:46:07come back from

00:46:08I don't think

00:46:12in recent memory

00:46:14there's been

00:46:15somebody disliked

00:46:17as much

00:46:18as Randy Orton

00:46:20was disliked

00:46:21during that period

00:46:22specifically

00:46:25I know that

00:46:26as part of the legacy

00:46:28when we would come out

00:46:30our

00:46:30just Randy

00:46:31it was a lot of

00:46:32things getting thrown

00:46:34our way

00:46:34a lot of just

00:46:35absolutely

00:46:36horrible things

00:46:37being yelled

00:46:38in the ring

00:46:39I think

00:46:39if at any point

00:46:41Randy was

00:46:41hated

00:46:43it was that point

00:46:45look at Randy Orton

00:46:47you look in those

00:46:47cold eyes

00:46:48you see evil intent

00:46:51you see almost

00:46:52malice

00:46:52at times

00:46:54I think what

00:46:55makes Randy Orton

00:46:56beam off your

00:46:58television set

00:46:58kind of as a jerk

00:47:00is the fact that

00:47:01he's kind of a jerk

00:47:02Randy Orton truly has

00:47:05an evil soul

00:47:06he certainly has

00:47:07iniquitous eyes

00:47:08I mean if you think

00:47:10about when he kissed

00:47:11Stephanie McMahon

00:47:12and when

00:47:13he punted

00:47:15Shane and Vince

00:47:16there was just

00:47:17a level of just

00:47:18slime

00:47:19to it

00:47:20and it made people

00:47:21despise him

00:47:23that's just evil

00:47:25at Wrestlemania

00:47:30specifically

00:47:31and this rivalry

00:47:32kind of came to

00:47:33a crescendo

00:47:34there is no doubt

00:47:36that Randy Orton

00:47:37has taken

00:47:39extreme

00:47:40personal measures

00:47:42to settle tonight

00:47:43possibly

00:47:44a five year

00:47:45score

00:47:46it was interesting

00:47:47to see there was

00:47:48such a personal

00:47:49issue

00:47:50between these two guys

00:47:52just

00:47:52dislike each other

00:47:54at the utmost

00:47:55this is one of those

00:47:56fights that

00:47:57neither man can lose

00:47:59neither man can

00:48:00afford to lose

00:48:01this match

00:48:01Triple H

00:48:02he had so much

00:48:03to fight for

00:48:04he had his family

00:48:05and he had something

00:48:06that he's made

00:48:07very clear that is

00:48:08so important to him

00:48:09the WWE championship

00:48:11I've often wondered

00:48:12if a man can be

00:48:13so focused on

00:48:14destroying another

00:48:15that he forgets

00:48:17that the richest prize

00:48:18in all WWE

00:48:20is around his waist

00:48:21and it was interesting

00:48:22to see the dichotomy

00:48:23to see

00:48:24gosh

00:48:24this would be

00:48:26a great match

00:48:26but it's even better

00:48:28it's even better

00:48:28because it's a great fight

00:48:30Triple H

00:48:31hoping to channel

00:48:33emotions into victory

00:48:34here in this match

00:48:35the crowd was at

00:48:36an absolute fever

00:48:38pitch

00:48:38to see Triple H

00:48:40get his revenge

00:48:41on Randy Orton

00:48:42my god

00:48:44what a battle

00:48:44you know

00:48:49I think this rivalry

00:48:50is one of the top

00:48:51rivalries of all time

00:48:53because I think

00:48:54there's a genuine

00:48:55discord

00:48:56between Triple H

00:48:57and Randy Orton

00:48:59and I think

00:49:01that makes great television

00:49:02this has been

00:49:04an incredible

00:49:05physical confrontation

00:49:07the physicality

00:49:09involved was that high

00:49:10the rage

00:49:12the emotion

00:49:13the desire

00:49:14Triple H

00:49:15these two just

00:49:17held no punches

00:49:18absolutely

00:49:19Randy Orton said

00:49:20he was going to

00:49:21avenge the moment

00:49:22that defines his life

00:49:23I love this

00:49:25in the game

00:49:26you fight back

00:49:27no matter what

00:49:28and Orton now

00:49:29is reeling

00:49:30this was a fight

00:49:32this was a brawl

00:49:33there was always

00:49:35a mark here

00:49:35there was always

00:49:36a mark here

00:49:36I mean

00:49:36they beat each other

00:49:38up pretty bad

00:49:39can the game

00:49:40ever

00:49:41get Orton

00:49:42to repent

00:49:43the sins

00:49:43that he's committed

00:49:44both men

00:49:47are spent

00:49:47punishing themselves

00:49:49in what has been

00:49:51one of the most

00:49:51brutal rivalries

00:49:53we have ever

00:49:54witnessed

00:49:54what I like

00:49:58most about

00:49:59the rivalry

00:49:59and it's a

00:50:00personal thing

00:50:01was I got to

00:50:02see it from

00:50:03the best seat

00:50:03in the house

00:50:04Nick Bockwinkle

00:50:18when you mention

00:50:19his name

00:50:19the next name

00:50:20you think of

00:50:21the number one

00:50:21challenger

00:50:22in professional

00:50:22wrestling

00:50:23former champion

00:50:24Vern Gagne

00:50:24I will concede

00:50:25that at one time

00:50:27Vern Gagne

00:50:28was truly a great

00:50:29champion

00:50:29I mean Harley Race

00:50:31had rivalries

00:50:32Luthez had rivalries

00:50:34I mean I could

00:50:35go on and on

00:50:35the Vern Gagne

00:50:37Nick Bockwinkle

00:50:38rivalry

00:50:39was the biggest

00:50:41in the AWA

00:50:43these men have been

00:50:44challenging each other

00:50:45for a long time

00:50:46I think it's one of

00:50:47the all time greats

00:50:48Vern Gagne

00:50:50was very much

00:50:51a professional

00:50:52applying

00:50:53head scissors

00:50:54and Kudaschi

00:50:55taking foul

00:50:56whoa

00:50:56look out

00:50:57and in comes

00:50:59Gagne

00:50:59here comes

00:51:01Gagne again

00:51:02he had

00:51:04kind of that

00:51:05amateur flair

00:51:06Vern likes to

00:51:07fake out

00:51:08his opponents

00:51:09go for a leg

00:51:09pickup

00:51:10in amateur style

00:51:11too I might add

00:51:12comes over

00:51:13with a toehold

00:51:13he could make

00:51:14great comebacks

00:51:15on opponents

00:51:17I can't believe it

00:51:18Nick Bockwinkle

00:51:33on the other hand

00:51:34had little magic

00:51:35Nick Bockwinkle

00:51:42was very fashy

00:51:44with go-behinds

00:51:45the wily experienced

00:51:47ring veteran

00:51:47Nick Bockwinkle

00:51:48you know a lot of

00:51:51suplexes

00:51:52when suplexes

00:51:53were not in vogue

00:51:55brother he knows

00:51:56so many ways

00:51:57to beat

00:51:57did a lot of things

00:52:00that not too many

00:52:02people in the business

00:52:02did back then

00:52:03well I've said

00:52:08this all along

00:52:09about Vern

00:52:10very rough

00:52:11on the microphone

00:52:11you know the feelings

00:52:13between he and I

00:52:13Marty I think

00:52:14and I don't know

00:52:16whether he ran down

00:52:17because of fright

00:52:18or what it was

00:52:19he got his point

00:52:19across but did it

00:52:20in kind of a

00:52:21naive way

00:52:22where he'd fumble

00:52:24stumble

00:52:25and eventually

00:52:26get to the meat

00:52:27of the matter

00:52:27one of us had to go

00:52:28and it was he

00:52:29Bockwinkle

00:52:31on the other hand

00:52:32was very articulate

00:52:33and he was

00:52:33predominantly

00:52:35above my great

00:52:36talent

00:52:36my skill

00:52:37my intestinal

00:52:38fortitude

00:52:39my guts

00:52:40my cunning

00:52:40is my intelligence

00:52:43he would use

00:52:44I'd say a varied

00:52:47vocabulary

00:52:47people didn't like

00:52:49that

00:52:49they took that

00:52:50as being arrogant

00:52:51so you had

00:52:53Vern Gagne

00:52:55on one hand

00:52:56that could

00:52:57kind of stumble

00:52:57through everything

00:52:58come out

00:52:59smelling like a rose

00:53:00and Bockwinkle

00:53:01the most articulate

00:53:03guy on the block

00:53:04people hated him

00:53:05one on one

00:53:07Vern Gagne

00:53:09chased Nick Bockwinkle

00:53:10for 20 years

00:53:11and made all kinds

00:53:12of money

00:53:13made huge money

00:53:15the resilient champion

00:53:16never say die

00:53:18they went from

00:53:19you know

00:53:20small spot shows

00:53:21up to

00:53:22major appearances

00:53:24at the

00:53:24mile high arena

00:53:25in Denver

00:53:26Milwaukee

00:53:28down at the

00:53:29Mecca

00:53:29finally at the

00:53:30Bradley Center

00:53:30and then

00:53:31Chicago

00:53:32outdoors

00:53:32at Comiskey

00:53:33it is an amazing

00:53:34story

00:53:35the fact that

00:53:35only two champions

00:53:37in one territory

00:53:38he has seen it all

00:53:40he is the heavyweight

00:53:42champion of the world

00:53:43the final match

00:53:44for Vern Gagne

00:53:45as the world's

00:53:46heavyweight champ

00:53:47will be against

00:53:47former champ

00:53:48Nick Bockwinkle

00:53:49long time adversary

00:53:51I am the greatest

00:53:51champion they've ever had

00:53:53and I don't even

00:53:53brag about that point

00:53:55it is strictly

00:53:55an unadulterated fact

00:53:57you know

00:53:58Vern Gagne

00:53:58did not trust

00:53:59too many people

00:54:00he did trust

00:54:01Nick Bockwinkle

00:54:02he trusted him

00:54:04a lot

00:54:04Nick was enough

00:54:06of a purist

00:54:07in terms of

00:54:08wrestling ability

00:54:09that he had the

00:54:11respect

00:54:11of Vern Gagne

00:54:13if you were

00:54:15a Jesse Ventura

00:54:16could talk

00:54:18entertain

00:54:19but you couldn't

00:54:20wrestle

00:54:21he didn't have

00:54:22Vern Gagne's

00:54:22respect

00:54:23he respected

00:54:25legitimate

00:54:26workers

00:54:27Vern's territory

00:54:29guys got there

00:54:32that he trusted

00:54:33it was a big

00:54:34thing to him

00:54:35kind of a funny story

00:54:38because Vern Gagne

00:54:39it was his territory

00:54:42he was the sole owner

00:54:44but I recall

00:54:45Comiskey Park

00:54:46I'm thinking

00:54:47it might have been

00:54:4876, 78

00:54:49in there

00:54:50right about the time

00:54:51Shea Stadium was running

00:54:52I recall vividly

00:54:53that Nick Bockwinkle

00:54:55was the champion

00:54:56and Vern had said to us

00:54:57back in the locker room

00:54:58if there's a big house

00:55:00tonight

00:55:01I want to take the belt

00:55:03back one more time

00:55:04so everybody went out

00:55:06to the ring

00:55:06the house was

00:55:08probably a half

00:55:09might have been

00:55:1020,000 people there

00:55:11at most

00:55:12good house

00:55:13but outdoors

00:55:14didn't make it

00:55:16anyway

00:55:18Bobby Heenan

00:55:18did not know the finish

00:55:19to the match

00:55:20and

00:55:22Nick Bockwinkle

00:55:25I don't think

00:55:25knew the finish

00:55:26until halfway through

00:55:28when he got the office

00:55:30from Vern

00:55:31and Vern ended up

00:55:32being the champion

00:55:34that night

00:55:35in Comiskey Park

00:55:36everybody was on the outside

00:55:40looking in

00:55:40nobody had an inside clue

00:55:42until he made that

00:55:43instantaneous decision

00:55:44in the ring

00:55:45one more bow for glory

00:55:47was I a big fan

00:55:50of the rivalry

00:55:50of course I was

00:55:51the people

00:55:52that showed up

00:55:53at these matches

00:55:54watched on television

00:55:55could tell the difference

00:55:57between the genuine

00:55:59good guy

00:56:00Vern Gagne

00:56:01and

00:56:02the bad ass

00:56:03Nick Bockwinkle

00:56:05but

00:56:05both good entertainers

00:56:07good talent

00:56:07and that chemistry

00:56:09who was there

00:56:10they were good

00:56:11and for so many years

00:56:14that's the really

00:56:15fascinating thing

00:56:16about that rivalry

00:56:17in 1996

00:56:32when Mankind

00:56:33arrived

00:56:34I saw him almost

00:56:35as like a creature

00:56:36going against another

00:56:37otherworldly type

00:56:39almost creature

00:56:40in The Undertaker

00:56:41no one has ever

00:56:43challenged The Undertaker

00:56:44like Mankind has

00:56:46Mankind came to the

00:56:47WWE

00:56:47with one focus

00:56:49with one thing

00:56:50in his mind

00:56:50and that was

00:56:51to accost

00:56:51to assault

00:56:52and to eliminate

00:56:53The Undertaker

00:56:54I was always a fan

00:56:57of the crazy monster

00:56:58movies and I would

00:56:59love to see

00:56:59Freddy go against

00:57:00Jason

00:57:01and to me

00:57:01this was almost

00:57:02like that

00:57:03you know

00:57:03this man

00:57:04Mankind

00:57:04obviously with a

00:57:05high threshold

00:57:06and his wide ear

00:57:08is missing

00:57:09his arms are

00:57:10scarred

00:57:11he walks with a

00:57:12limp

00:57:12this man is a

00:57:13very strange

00:57:15parade in the middle

00:57:16here's this freak

00:57:18of nature that would

00:57:19just rip his own

00:57:20hair out

00:57:21and is so hideous

00:57:22looking

00:57:22six feet

00:57:23ten and a half

00:57:23inches tall

00:57:24328 pounds

00:57:26that is just

00:57:27absolutely phenomenal

00:57:28so I love the

00:57:30chemistry if you

00:57:31would that existed

00:57:32between The Undertaker

00:57:33and Mankind

00:57:34from the very

00:57:35beginning to me

00:57:35it was just

00:57:36it was like

00:57:37nothing else

00:57:37that I'd ever seen

00:57:38The Undertaker

00:57:39has never been

00:57:40challenged

00:57:40quite like this

00:57:41before

00:57:42I think the type

00:57:43of matches

00:57:44that The Undertaker

00:57:45and Mankind

00:57:46wound up facing

00:57:47each other in

00:57:47they were so

00:57:48out of the ordinary

00:57:49but they were so

00:57:50fitting for these

00:57:51two individuals

00:57:52to be in

00:57:53Who will survive

00:57:54this matchup

00:57:55between these two

00:57:56men

00:57:56boiler room brawl

00:57:57nothing like that

00:57:58had ever been done

00:57:58before

00:57:59Mankind doesn't mind

00:58:01hurting himself

00:58:01if it means

00:58:02taking The Undertaker

00:58:03out

00:58:04he buried a live

00:58:05match

00:58:06what in the world

00:58:07I've never seen

00:58:08that in my life

00:58:08that was one of the

00:58:11things that was so

00:58:11unique about this

00:58:12rivalry is the fact

00:58:13that you really

00:58:14could not see

00:58:15around the corner

00:58:16you never knew

00:58:17what was lurking

00:58:18and what was coming

00:58:19at you next

00:58:20this war continuing

00:58:22and it won't stop

00:58:23until one of these

00:58:24men is literally

00:58:25buried a lot

00:58:27you know when I

00:58:32first heard that

00:58:33they were rekindling

00:58:35the rivalry with

00:58:36this Hell in a Cell

00:58:37match I honestly

00:58:39had my doubts

00:58:39I like anyone else

00:58:41I thought has that

00:58:42run its course

00:58:43honestly I thought

00:58:45we'd seen it all

00:58:46from these two

00:58:47but boy was I wrong

00:58:48what's gonna happen

00:58:49here

00:58:49they're right above us

00:58:53folks and I don't

00:58:54like it a damn bit

00:58:55first of all I

00:58:56couldn't understand

00:58:57how the cell itself

00:58:59would withstand the

00:59:01weight of these two

00:59:01huge guys

00:59:02I'm a little bit

00:59:03scared of heights

00:59:04anyway

00:59:04I couldn't even

00:59:05imagine myself being

00:59:07up there but I had

00:59:08a foreboding feeling

00:59:09that something bad

00:59:10was gonna happen

00:59:11it was like a bad car

00:59:22wreck that you

00:59:23didn't want to see

00:59:24but you couldn't

00:59:25look away from

00:59:26it was like

00:59:28did I just see that

00:59:29my god this is over

00:59:31I cannot believe

00:59:32this is over right

00:59:33here

00:59:33I've gone back

00:59:35and looked at the

00:59:35footage and I just

00:59:36say how did he do

00:59:38it it's just not

00:59:39real nobody's body

00:59:41could endure that

00:59:43kind of abuse

00:59:44you're kidding me

00:59:49the hell is he

00:59:50standing are you

00:59:52kidding me he wants

00:59:54to go back up

00:59:55they wind up back

00:59:56on top of the cell

00:59:57again and

00:59:59my first fear

01:00:00that I thought

01:00:01was gonna happen

01:00:02the first time

01:00:03I saw him up there

01:00:03then did happen

01:00:05the cage gives way

01:00:06the first words

01:00:12out of my mouth

01:00:13were he's dead

01:00:14that's it he's dead

01:00:16it was just the

01:00:20most astounding

01:00:20thing that I have

01:00:22ever seen

01:00:22ever

01:00:23well somebody

01:00:25stop the damn

01:00:26man

01:00:26and the next thing

01:00:28you know

01:00:28there are nails

01:00:30or tacks

01:00:31are all over

01:00:31the ring

01:00:32and he's getting

01:00:33slammed into this

01:00:34by that time

01:00:35the tacks had to

01:00:37feel like a mattress

01:00:38a lot of people

01:00:42a lot of people don't

01:00:43realize that the

01:00:44undertaker was certainly

01:00:45not 100% in this

01:00:47match either

01:00:47there were rumors

01:00:48that he was actually

01:00:49wrestling on a

01:00:50fractured ankle

01:00:51it was just such a

01:00:54draining experience

01:00:56if it was for me and

01:00:58JR to watch and to

01:00:59commentate

01:01:00I know those guys

01:01:01it was like literally

01:01:02like the walking dead

01:01:03I don't even know how

01:01:03they made it back to the

01:01:05locker room

01:01:05if you remember

01:01:06their match was not

01:01:08the main event that

01:01:09night

01:01:09it was not the last

01:01:10match

01:01:11the final match of

01:01:12the evening was

01:01:13Stone Cold Steve

01:01:13Austin against Kane

01:01:15I looked to the back

01:01:17and suddenly here comes

01:01:19mankind again out to

01:01:21get involved in this

01:01:23Kane and Stone Cold

01:01:24Steve Austin match

01:01:25and my first thought was

01:01:26how is he not at the

01:01:28hospital

01:01:28and he comes out

01:01:30and the poor guy gets

01:01:32a stunner from Stone Cold

01:01:33Steve Austin to cap off

01:01:35his night

01:01:35it was without a doubt

01:01:37one of the most

01:01:38unforgettable nights that

01:01:39I've personally ever had

01:01:41being a commentator for

01:01:42the WWE

01:01:43it just says so much

01:01:45about about mankind

01:01:46and about the

01:01:47Undertaker that these

01:01:48two guys

01:01:48went out there and put

01:01:51themselves through

01:01:53the most grueling

01:01:55and undoubtedly painful

01:01:57match that I've ever

01:01:58seen

01:01:58I can't even tell you

01:02:00the amount of respect

01:02:01that all the other

01:02:02superstars in the locker

01:02:04room had for these guys

01:02:05that's why it's still

01:02:07one of the most talked

01:02:08about rivalries that

01:02:10we've ever had here in

01:02:11the WWE because these

01:02:12two mankind and the

01:02:13Undertaker they went

01:02:14way above and beyond

01:02:16the call of duty in

01:02:18these matches

01:02:18mankind and the

01:02:25Undertaker were

01:02:26chemistry at its

01:02:28finest I mean they were

01:02:29the art of resolving

01:02:30mixed compound or

01:02:31aggregate bodies into

01:02:33very unconventional

01:02:34principles

01:02:35mankind was certainly

01:02:36some type of chemical

01:02:38compound and the

01:02:39toughness he demonstrated

01:02:40over the years made

01:02:41him like a blend of

01:02:42titanium and tungsten

01:02:44in my opinion

01:02:45which are two of the

01:02:47hardest and most

01:02:47durable elements both

01:02:49found most abundantly

01:02:50in Australia for

01:02:51whatever that's worth

01:02:52very important stuff

01:02:53here kids

01:02:54Undertaker is the

01:02:55most unique character

01:02:56we have ever seen

01:02:57kind of like my

01:02:58favorite and the

01:02:59world's most abundant

01:03:00element hydrogen

01:03:02which only has one

01:03:03proton and one

01:03:04electron

01:03:05now singularly the

01:03:06two superstars were

01:03:08unusual but together

01:03:09they were more like

01:03:10carbon which binds

01:03:11with more different

01:03:12elements in more

01:03:13different ways

01:03:13now mankind versus

01:03:15Undertaker was a

01:03:16fascinating experiment

01:03:18that was highly

01:03:19successful on a grand

01:03:20scale but underground

01:03:21laboratories can

01:03:22sometimes discover

01:03:23inherent molecular

01:03:25forces that are even

01:03:26more compelling

01:03:27now chemistry in its

01:03:29simplest form is

01:03:30described as a study

01:03:31of matter in the

01:03:32changes it undergoes

01:03:33and when you have an

01:03:34environment that

01:03:35encourages experimentation

01:03:36like ECW did

01:03:38the possibilities were

01:03:40endless

01:03:40now ECW had to be

01:03:42different to compete

01:03:43with the power and

01:03:44money of WWE and WCW

01:03:46so it went to the

01:03:48extreme and the result

01:03:49was possibly ECW's

01:03:51greatest rivalry

01:03:52I'm talking Tommy

01:03:54Dreamer versus Raven

01:03:56now it was by every

01:03:57definition a look into

01:03:58how substances are

01:03:59altered and how

01:04:00specific reactions

01:04:01change them into

01:04:02other substances

01:04:03I had no idea I was

01:04:06going to have to

01:04:06research so much for

01:04:07this job here I thought

01:04:08that I was done with

01:04:09chemistry in my junior

01:04:09year of high school

01:04:10what's going on here

01:04:11regardless I hope that

01:04:13you're all learning

01:04:14something and more

01:04:15importantly enjoying

01:04:16the countdown

01:04:16when Tommy Dreamer

01:04:29started in our

01:04:31industry he was a

01:04:32pretty boy he had a

01:04:33pompadour he had big

01:04:34muscles he had the

01:04:35look he was still

01:04:36fairly pretty named

01:04:38like Tommy Dreamer

01:04:39the girls loved him

01:04:40so Tommy came to ECW

01:04:42and was booed out of

01:04:43the building then he

01:04:45he had his Singapore

01:04:46caney match with the

01:04:47Sandman and from

01:04:48that point on Tommy

01:04:50was a made man if you

01:04:52will Tommy realized

01:04:53that that being the

01:04:55all-american good guy

01:04:57was not going to make

01:04:59him a star in ECW

01:05:00talk about an amazing

01:05:02transformation Tommy

01:05:04Dreamer is hardcore to

01:05:06the phone Tommy was

01:05:10also very identifiable

01:05:11to ECW fans because he

01:05:15didn't win a lot he

01:05:17didn't want to win

01:05:19Tommy wanted to be the

01:05:20martyr Tommy became

01:05:22more popular when he

01:05:24lost because no matter

01:05:25how badly he got beaten

01:05:27up he picked himself

01:05:29back up

01:05:30didn't expect to see me

01:05:32did you

01:05:32wait a minute

01:05:35you're just a breathable

01:05:37piece of garbage

01:05:38you're not all there

01:05:40are you

01:05:40you've been away

01:05:41I can tell

01:05:42Raven is a completely

01:05:44different character

01:05:46and from minute one

01:05:48when he was introduced

01:05:49by Stevie Richards on

01:05:50ECW TV

01:05:51you could tell that

01:05:53there had never been a

01:05:54character like this

01:05:55before

01:05:56Scott Levy invented

01:05:57the Raven character

01:05:58because he knew it

01:06:00would resonate with

01:06:01young fans at the time

01:06:03and it did

01:06:05so Paul Heyman

01:06:11decided that

01:06:12Raven and Tommy

01:06:14Dreamer would make

01:06:15great opponents

01:06:16there's something there

01:06:18between these two

01:06:19now I'm no detective

01:06:20but there's got to be

01:06:21something there

01:06:22so the backstory

01:06:24was that they went

01:06:26to summer camp together

01:06:27and that Tommy was

01:06:29the jock at camp

01:06:30and a character like

01:06:32Raven would be an

01:06:33outcast at summer camp

01:06:34so Raven was jealous

01:06:36of Tommy Dreamer

01:06:38and then to make it

01:06:40even more intense

01:06:41there was introduced

01:06:44the young girl

01:06:46from summer camp

01:06:47people in Philadelphia

01:06:49Tommy Dreamer

01:06:50is not the nice guy

01:06:51that you all think he is

01:06:53there was a certain

01:06:54young lady

01:06:55back in summer camp

01:06:57by the name of

01:06:59Beulah McGillicotty

01:07:01she liked Raven

01:07:03and Tommy Dreamer

01:07:05had shunned

01:07:06she was young

01:07:08and awkward

01:07:09and overweight

01:07:11and of course

01:07:12we bring out this

01:07:13gorgeous woman

01:07:15today as you can see

01:07:17out there

01:07:18no zit face

01:07:21no fat slob

01:07:22she is

01:07:22she is pure

01:07:23penthouse centerfold

01:07:24and so

01:07:26it seems

01:07:27from minute one

01:07:28that she is going

01:07:29to be with Tommy Dreamer

01:07:30now

01:07:31who finally sees

01:07:32how beautiful she is

01:07:33and wants to be with her

01:07:34and of course

01:07:35the scorned woman

01:07:36instead turns on

01:07:37Tommy Dreamer

01:07:38spraying hairspray

01:07:39in his face

01:07:40and we're off

01:07:41we have this

01:07:42very

01:07:42personal

01:07:44physical

01:07:45rivalry

01:07:47from day one

01:07:49which went on

01:07:50for two years

01:07:51Tommy Dreamer

01:07:53who has fought

01:07:54so hard

01:07:55to achieve respect

01:07:57as a hardcore wrestler

01:07:58cannot go on

01:08:00with his career

01:08:01he is obsessed

01:08:02with beating Raven

01:08:03Tommy knew

01:08:05in terms of

01:08:07entertainment

01:08:08and storyline

01:08:09that as long

01:08:10as he kept losing

01:08:11by being robbed

01:08:13the more

01:08:15the fans would see him

01:08:16as a sympathetic

01:08:17hero

01:08:18and be behind him

01:08:20some punk

01:08:21that I've known

01:08:21since I'm 12 years old

01:08:22won't get out

01:08:24of my life

01:08:24I can't get my hand raised

01:08:26no matter how much

01:08:27I beat his ass

01:08:28thanks to the help

01:08:30of his entire entourage

01:08:32Raven stole a victory

01:08:34from Tommy Dreamer

01:08:35that's despicable

01:08:37the one thing

01:08:38that you could never do

01:08:41was beat me Tommy

01:08:43you could never beat me

01:08:46and I always pinned you

01:08:49it allowed this

01:08:50to go on

01:08:50for two years

01:08:51so Tommy never

01:08:52wanted to win

01:08:53the truth of the matter

01:08:55is Tommy finally won

01:08:56because Raven signed

01:08:58with WCW

01:08:59so we had to do

01:09:02Raven's last match

01:09:03we didn't want to do

01:09:04loser leaves ECW

01:09:05because it would have

01:09:05been too obvious

01:09:06so loser leaves ECW

01:09:08would have given away

01:09:09what we were going to do

01:09:11so we just

01:09:12billed it as the last match

01:09:14between Tommy Dreamer

01:09:15and Raven

01:09:15so our fans really didn't know

01:09:17what was going to happen

01:09:18the final battle

01:09:20between Raven

01:09:22and Tommy Dreamer

01:09:24and regardless

01:09:26of who wins this bout

01:09:28based on the longest running

01:09:30feud in professional wrestling

01:09:32this will no doubt be

01:09:33extreme championship

01:09:34wrestling history

01:09:36the truth is

01:09:37is that it was Paul

01:09:39who made the call

01:09:40for Tommy Dreamer to win

01:09:42Tommy didn't want to win

01:09:43even then

01:09:45Dreamer sending a message

01:09:48to Raven

01:09:48tonight is

01:09:50Tommy Dreamer's night

01:09:51but when he did

01:09:53it was a great moment

01:09:54for ECW

01:09:55his dream has come true

01:10:02it's the greatest night

01:10:04of his life

01:10:05Tommy Dreamer

01:10:06has beaten Raven

01:10:08I do think that the rivalry

01:10:13between Tommy Dreamer

01:10:14and Raven

01:10:15exemplified what ECW

01:10:16was all about

01:10:17not so much

01:10:19because of the brutality

01:10:21but the truth is

01:10:22is that

01:10:23one of the things

01:10:24that ECW

01:10:25really contributed

01:10:26to our industry

01:10:27was out of the box

01:10:29and I mean

01:10:30way out of the box

01:10:32storylines

01:10:33that whole backstory

01:10:35while it sounded

01:10:36a little far-fetched

01:10:37at first

01:10:38didn't matter

01:10:39as soon as

01:10:41the two were up

01:10:42and running

01:10:42the classic

01:10:44sympathetic

01:10:46martyred hero

01:10:48versus the

01:10:51tortured

01:10:52twisted

01:10:54villain

01:10:56who really didn't know

01:10:58why he

01:10:59was angry

01:11:00except that

01:11:02he was different

01:11:04it was a complex character

01:11:06and it was very different

01:11:07than

01:11:08good guy

01:11:09versus bad guy

01:11:10for the sake of

01:11:11white hat

01:11:11black hat

01:11:12so in many ways

01:11:14Raven versus

01:11:14Tommy Dreamer

01:11:15exemplified ECW

01:11:17I will give you a show

01:11:33like you have never

01:11:34ever seen before

01:11:36why

01:11:36because I can't

01:11:39for God's sakes

01:11:40Sean was starting

01:11:41to really grow

01:11:43as the beacon

01:11:44of the company

01:11:45the kid came home

01:11:48and he won

01:11:49the title

01:11:49everybody always thought

01:11:53you know what

01:11:53wait till he gets to the ring

01:11:54with the undertaker

01:11:55he's gonna get put in his place then

01:11:57and you'd like to see that winchel

01:11:59that's steel McMahon

01:12:02oh my gosh

01:12:04it led to

01:12:08a historic moment

01:12:10for this company

01:12:11I think everybody

01:12:12was satisfied

01:12:13when we got to

01:12:14Hell in a Cell

01:12:15Hell in a Cell

01:12:16a first

01:12:17it won't be for the weak at heart

01:12:19that's for sure

01:12:20the Hell in a Cell match

01:12:22wasn't for the title

01:12:23yet

01:12:24it was the main event

01:12:25it was dangerous

01:12:27it was really dangerous

01:12:29and everybody in the back

01:12:30was gasping

01:12:31like oh my god

01:12:32I hope they don't fall

01:12:33and sure enough

01:12:33Sean falls off the top

01:12:35through the announce table

01:12:36it's unbelievable

01:12:37this is truly

01:12:40Hell in a Cell

01:12:41for Shawn Michaels

01:12:42the chair shots

01:12:44were so wicked

01:12:44and then when you think

01:12:47it's over

01:12:47and Shawn's had

01:12:48all he could have

01:12:49here comes Kane

01:12:50it was one of the greatest

01:12:51moments for WWE

01:12:52when it was over

01:12:55Shawn had gained

01:12:57the respect of the undertaker

01:12:58and by gaining

01:13:00the respect of the undertaker

01:13:01you then

01:13:02gain the respect

01:13:03of the locker room

01:13:04Shawn Michaels

01:13:07the undertaker

01:13:08one of these men

01:13:09are going to Wrestlemania

01:13:11two of the greatest legends

01:13:13in the history

01:13:14of this business

01:13:15we've still got

01:13:16a hell of a show left

01:13:17the winner of the

01:13:19Royal Rumble

01:13:20was between those two

01:13:22these two legends

01:13:23are face to face

01:13:24I don't know about you

01:13:26I got chills out here

01:13:27Undertaker

01:13:28is going

01:13:29to Wrestlemania

01:13:31I think at the end

01:13:32of that match

01:13:33the subtle

01:13:34acknowledgement

01:13:35of what a competitor

01:13:36you are from the undertaker

01:13:38to Shawn Michaels

01:13:38said a lot

01:13:39the first match

01:13:44at ground zero

01:13:45there wasn't a

01:13:46definitive winner

01:13:47at hell in a cell

01:13:49it was Kane

01:13:50that came out

01:13:51that cost Shawn

01:13:52to win

01:13:52but the undertaker

01:13:53really whooped his ass

01:13:54just inside yourself

01:13:56just inside yourself

01:13:56you know

01:13:57I know I was feeling it

01:13:58the undertaker

01:13:59has never beaten

01:13:59Shawn Michaels

01:14:00and I can believe

01:14:01Shawn Michaels

01:14:02could break

01:14:03the undertaker's streak

01:14:04as a producer

01:14:10I like to term it

01:14:13more a coach

01:14:14and you try to help

01:14:16everybody with their

01:14:17matches

01:14:18and give them

01:14:18perspective

01:14:19about what may work

01:14:20what may not work

01:14:22the build to that match

01:14:24may have been

01:14:25the best build

01:14:25I've ever seen

01:14:26to any match

01:14:26Taker did his fist pump

01:14:28up on the stage

01:14:29thinking Shawn was gone

01:14:30he came out

01:14:31and super kicked him

01:14:32oh sweet chin music

01:14:34what is he doing

01:14:36this man

01:14:37the defiant

01:14:38Shawn Michaels

01:14:39looks to make history

01:14:40at the 25th anniversary

01:14:42of Wrestlemania

01:14:43Shawn the white

01:14:45and Corpus Christi

01:14:46and he did the undertaker

01:14:48and that time

01:14:49the undertaker

01:14:50came up through the ring

01:14:50got a hold of Shawn

01:14:51but Shawn got away

01:14:52the heartbreak kid

01:14:54Mr. Wrestlemania

01:14:57will take you

01:14:59to the fiery depths

01:15:01of hell

01:15:02the undertaker

01:15:07began this 16-0

01:15:08winning streak

01:15:09at Wrestlemania 7

01:15:10Shawn Michaels

01:15:11doesn't appear

01:15:12to be intimidated

01:15:13at all

01:15:14two of the greatest

01:15:15performers

01:15:15in the history

01:15:16of Wrestlemania

01:15:17every time

01:15:18there was a near fall

01:15:19look at the audience's

01:15:21reaction

01:15:22oh they got me

01:15:23oh my god

01:15:29oh my god

01:15:31I thought everything

01:15:32was really coming

01:15:33to the proverbial

01:15:33crashing ending

01:15:35when the undertaker

01:15:36did that leap

01:15:37over the ropes

01:15:37and it looked like

01:15:38he broke his neck

01:15:39oh no

01:15:42Shawn

01:15:43with a heart

01:15:44these two are masters

01:15:46of controlling the crowd

01:15:48puppeteers if you will

01:15:50I put that match up

01:16:01against any match

01:16:02for greatest match

01:16:04ever

01:16:04when they both came back

01:16:09through the curtain

01:16:09it wasn't anything like

01:16:11not bad

01:16:12I mean

01:16:13the undertaker

01:16:14was smiling

01:16:14from ear to ear

01:16:16which you never see

01:16:17it was that night

01:16:24after the first

01:16:25Wrestlemania match

01:16:26where I looked at both of them

01:16:27and I said

01:16:27you know there's a return

01:16:29match here

01:16:29Shawn had been talking

01:16:33about wanting to retire

01:16:34and he seemed pretty

01:16:37serious about it

01:16:37we got the idea

01:16:39it's like

01:16:40well

01:16:40you want to go out

01:16:41on top

01:16:41I mean really

01:16:43on top

01:16:44there's no better way

01:16:45you know something

01:16:46undertaker

01:16:47I can beat you

01:16:49arguably the greatest

01:16:53Wrestlemania career

01:16:54of all time

01:16:55against the greatest

01:16:56streak

01:16:57of all time

01:16:58wow

01:16:59the eyes of the world

01:17:02are on this match

01:17:03tonight

01:17:03no one's ever come

01:17:07as close as

01:17:07Shawn Michaels did

01:17:08last year

01:17:09to defeating

01:17:09the undertaker

01:17:10in Wrestlemania

01:17:11well if Shawn Michaels

01:17:14is going out

01:17:15he's going out

01:17:16as defiant as ever

01:17:17the undertaker

01:17:19is 18 and 0

01:17:20Shawn Michaels

01:17:21career

01:17:22is over

01:17:23and what a match

01:17:24it was

01:17:25a classic

01:17:25this was the end

01:17:29of the Shawn Michaels

01:17:30era

01:17:30and man

01:17:31you know

01:17:32you just

01:17:32all these things

01:17:34flash back

01:17:34through your mind

01:17:35and all these

01:17:37achievements

01:17:37and unbelievable

01:17:38accomplishments

01:17:39and now

01:17:40it's facing you

01:17:42the clock is really

01:17:43ticking

01:17:43and it's over

01:17:45the undertaker

01:18:04myself and Shawn

01:18:05went to the locker room

01:18:06and sat down

01:18:07and enjoyed

01:18:09for about 30 minutes

01:18:11and we talked about

01:18:13various things

01:18:14such as

01:18:14you know

01:18:16how does this feel

01:18:16kid

01:18:17this is it

01:18:18and

01:18:19he was just

01:18:20really relieved

01:18:22at peace

01:18:23and proud

01:18:24one of my

01:18:26greatest

01:18:27moments

01:18:28in this industry

01:18:29was being part

01:18:31of the Shawn Michaels

01:18:32Undertaker matches

01:18:34at Wrestlemania

01:18:34it's so hard to talk about

01:18:58because you know

01:18:59who they are now

01:18:59and I knew

01:19:00who they were then

01:19:01and it's such

01:19:02a drastic change

01:19:03you know

01:19:04the rock is

01:19:05Rocky Maivia

01:19:06the energetic hair

01:19:07sticking straight up

01:19:08floating around

01:19:09and the blue

01:19:10just all over the place

01:19:12yes indeed

01:19:13the rookie sensation

01:19:14Rocky Maivia

01:19:15and of course

01:19:16you know

01:19:17Triple H

01:19:17wearing the riding pants

01:19:19and the

01:19:19all very proper

01:19:20Hunter Hearst

01:19:22Jones and Energy

01:19:22and gentlemen

01:19:23in American blue blood

01:19:24going 97

01:19:27going to the

01:19:28Intercontinental Championship

01:19:29which is

01:19:29still a very

01:19:30prestigious championship

01:19:31anytime you go

01:19:32for something like that

01:19:33you bring your A game

01:19:34see that's what happens

01:19:37when you don't

01:19:38no no no no

01:19:38you wanted a revolution

01:19:46you got it

01:19:48Hunter's in charge

01:19:50of you know

01:19:51a pretty powerful group

01:19:52at the time

01:19:53you know

01:19:54and we all had

01:19:55complete and utter

01:19:56faith in him

01:19:57that he was going

01:19:58to take us

01:19:58where we needed to go

01:19:59the rock is not only

01:20:02now the leader

01:20:03of the nation

01:20:04of domination

01:20:04he's the ruler

01:20:06of the nation

01:20:06of domination

01:20:07I think rock

01:20:08was just still

01:20:09playing with some

01:20:10stuff trying to

01:20:11figure out

01:20:11who he was

01:20:13or where he

01:20:14wanted to go

01:20:14and and they

01:20:15looked to him

01:20:16as a leader

01:20:16hey Rocky

01:20:18remember this

01:20:19you mess with us

01:20:21it's not

01:20:21know your role

01:20:23it's shut your

01:20:24hole

01:20:24if you and the rest

01:20:27of your DX

01:20:28jabronis got any

01:20:29testicular fortitude

01:20:31you'll come out here

01:20:32smell what the rock

01:20:33is cooking

01:20:34get it all with the

01:20:35nation

01:20:35this nation DX thing

01:20:37has completely

01:20:38gone out of control

01:20:39and they were coming

01:20:41out all the time

01:20:42and we're the nation

01:20:42and we're gonna do

01:20:44what we're gonna do

01:20:45and so we decided

01:20:46to make fun of them

01:20:47which would become

01:20:50one of the funniest

01:20:51things ever

01:20:52on WWE

01:20:52you know the croc

01:20:57just came

01:20:58from the bathroom

01:20:59and

01:21:01you should have

01:21:03smelled what the rock

01:21:04was cooking

01:21:04it's like walking

01:21:07and shaking a bush

01:21:08with a beehive in it

01:21:09when it comes to the croc

01:21:11and the ladies

01:21:12and the croc hits

01:21:13rock bottom

01:21:15he has no choice

01:21:18but to lay that

01:21:19smack down on himself

01:21:21you hear that

01:21:22the brother smacks

01:21:23himself down

01:21:23wow look at people

01:21:24oh man

01:21:26can you imagine the rock

01:21:27he's broken every piece

01:21:29of furniture

01:21:29in his living room

01:21:30right now

01:21:31it made him mad

01:21:32so we accomplished

01:21:34our mission

01:21:35if you have somebody

01:21:41that can equal you

01:21:42and that you can

01:21:42have a personal

01:21:43rivalry with

01:21:44is awesome

01:21:45because that's when

01:21:47things

01:21:47really happen

01:21:49looks like I'm gonna do

01:21:51a pay-per-view

01:21:51a long time

01:21:52and I don't think

01:21:53I've ever seen

01:21:53any more intense

01:21:54competition

01:21:55from two young guys

01:21:57like we're seeing here

01:21:58it's a competitor

01:21:59in each one of us

01:22:00and the more you have it

01:22:02the better it gets

01:22:03and the better for the people

01:22:04it makes me really

01:22:08want to watch

01:22:08can he find it

01:22:11yes

01:22:12yes

01:22:14he did it

01:22:15he did it

01:22:16you are a prime

01:22:21human

01:22:21living

01:22:22breathing

01:22:23example

01:22:23of a guy

01:22:24who looks like

01:22:25Tarzan

01:22:26and wrestles like

01:22:27Jane

01:22:28well Jane

01:22:32kicked your ass

01:22:33last week

01:22:34their relationship

01:22:39was fine

01:22:40I mean it wasn't like

01:22:41hey I got backstage

01:22:42scooped it

01:22:42hey they used to fight

01:22:44all the time

01:22:44and walk by each other

01:22:45and one would shoulder

01:22:46one and one would back

01:22:48down first

01:22:48it wasn't ever like that

01:22:49you know their relationship

01:22:50was fine

01:22:51but when it's time

01:22:52to strap them on

01:22:53you've got to come

01:22:54you always want to go

01:22:56one step higher

01:22:57than your last match

01:22:58you always want to make

01:22:58it one step better

01:23:00than your

01:23:00you know

01:23:00one move better

01:23:01than your last match

01:23:02there's room for only

01:23:04one man

01:23:05at the top

01:23:06of the W.S.

01:23:08mountain

01:23:08will it be

01:23:09the people's champion

01:23:11the rock

01:23:12or will it be

01:23:13the game

01:23:14and they just kept up

01:23:16in their game

01:23:16and the most important

01:23:17thing is

01:23:18I think they were trying

01:23:19to up each other

01:23:19it was in-house competition

01:23:21that leads

01:23:22for the best matches

01:23:24ever

01:23:25it is now time

01:23:31for the 60 minute

01:23:33Iron Man match

01:23:35for the World Wrestling

01:23:36Federation Championship

01:23:37you know there's not

01:23:40too many people

01:23:41I know that can go

01:23:42an hour

01:23:43neither

01:23:44Triple H

01:23:45nor The Rock

01:23:46have ever

01:23:47in their WWF careers

01:23:49gone 60 minutes

01:23:51you have to be in

01:23:52the greatest shape

01:23:55of your life

01:23:55I feel

01:23:56you know

01:23:57it's not like

01:23:58you're going

01:23:58you can go 10 minutes

01:24:00full blown

01:24:00or 15 minutes

01:24:01full blown

01:24:01you're going a while

01:24:02and then again

01:24:12it's so

01:24:13it's such a long time

01:24:14that you've got

01:24:15to be creative

01:24:16and have to have

01:24:17some ability

01:24:18to do a lot of things

01:24:19so much animosity

01:24:20and this awesome rivalry

01:24:22between these two young studs

01:24:25look at where they ended up

01:24:35I think in a way

01:24:37they both would have been there

01:24:38but I think they both

01:24:40moved each other

01:24:41I think they brought out

01:24:45something in each one of them

01:24:46that elevated them

01:24:48to the superstars

01:24:49and super great people

01:24:51that they are today

01:24:52and they became

01:24:54two of the biggest superstars

01:24:56ever in this industry

01:24:57and they became

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