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00:30WCW's fortunes and future hinged on one key event.
00:34Bash at the Beach 2000.
00:36Candidly, one of the biggest disasters of my entire career.
00:39Bash at the Beach was one of WCW's biggest annual pay-per-view events.
00:45And in the year 2000, it was the stage for an epic clash between two of wrestling's most controversial creative talents.
00:53And I promise you will never see that piece of shit again!
00:57I think Vince Russo is motivated by attention.
01:01I don't know why.
01:02I didn't know if he didn't get enough when he was a little kid.
01:04Eric represented everything I despise in the wrestling business.
01:10And bro, I'll tell you, you're never gonna outwork me because I'm better than you.
01:15If he believes that, he's got the problem with reality.
01:20The incident at Bash at the Beach 2000 is one in which every participant has their own version of what actually took place that night.
01:28And I said, Hulk, you're not walking out of here the WCW champion.
01:34That is not happening.
01:35What's Jeff doing?
01:36Now the script's out the window.
01:38What's gonna happen?
01:39And it's like, nobody wants to watch wrestling and see that.
01:41It was one of the dumbest things I ever saw.
01:43And Hogan, you big, bald son of a bitch, kiss my ass!
01:48That was never my plan.
01:51Now I'm really pissed off.
01:52Hogan's pretty sensitive about being called bald, even though he doesn't have any hair.
01:56Did I know that Hulk Hogan was gonna take legal action?
01:59How could you not?
02:00There will come a time, there will come a place when I will tell the entire story of what happened at Bash at the Beach.
02:06The legacy of Bash at the Beach, the single biggest black eye in WCW history.
02:18I despise the wrestling business, bro.
02:25I despise the people in it.
02:27You cannot be a good person and exist in the wrestling business.
02:33You can't, bro, because you enter a shark tank.
02:37And unless you become a shark, they will eat you alive.
02:44My name is Vince Russo.
02:46I was in the wrestling business since 1991, so I'm going on 32 years now.
02:52You can boo all you want.
02:56That doesn't change the fact that I'm better than you.
03:00What I'm looking for tonight is ratings.
03:03Big ratings.
03:04And we're gonna deliver, you son of a bitch.
03:09Vince, we've got to know, who is the WCW World Heavyweight Champion?
03:14Question?
03:16Question?
03:16There is no question, Mike.
03:18There's no question?
03:18Who's here with the belt?
03:20Overall, do you think Vince Russo has done more harm or good for wrestling?
03:28Um.
03:30Harm.
03:31Yeah, I would say long-term harm.
03:32Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:33In the 1990s, professional wrestling is bigger and hotter than it has ever been before.
03:40As industry leader Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Federation faces a serious challenge to its popularity by an aggressive challenger, billionaire Ted Turner's World Championship Wrestling.
03:52WWF would have been the dominant company from 84 through, I would say, 96, and then 96 had flipped over and WCW was dominant.
04:03My name's Dave Meltzer, and I'm the editor of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, and I've been covering pro wrestling since the early 1970s.
04:10The flaw of Vince McMahon is he only thinks a certain thing works.
04:13That's it.
04:13And there's a million things in wrestling that, when done well, can work.
04:17As both companies engage in a fierce ratings war pitting their Monday night shows against each other, the rise of WCW is led by its ambitious young president, Eric Bischoff.
04:28I decided the only way I was going to be successful was to be different.
04:32I listed all of the things that made WWE successful, and I decided to do exactly the opposite of what they were doing.
04:41I'm Eric Bischoff, former president of WCW.
04:45I'm the first one that created a weekly live television format for professional wrestling.
04:51I looked at the WWE, and they were taped.
04:53And I thought, you know, wrestling needs to be live.
04:55When it's live, the audience has to watch it.
04:57WCW before Nitro was just a really bad, cheap imitation of WWE.
05:03It was just silly, silly, childish stuff.
05:06The Shaq Master!
05:08The Shaq Master!
05:11They were ignoring men 18 to 39.
05:15So I thought, okay, there's my opportunity.
05:17I began wondering, how can I transition into more reality-based product?
05:22Eric produced a different kind of a television show than had ever been done before.
05:26He was just ahead of the game, and Vince was behind the times.
05:29Before launching Monday Nitro, Bischoff aims to legitimize WCW by headhunting major talent, poaching Vince McMahon's biggest star to be the new face of his company.
05:39We're the number two wrestling company in the world.
05:41We're a fraction of the WWE's ratings.
05:44And bringing in Hulk Hogan changed the perception of WCW.
05:48It was a seismic shift.
05:50I mean, I remember Eric telling me, where Hogan goes, goes the money.
05:53That was his thing.
05:55And all of a sudden, my phone rings one day, and it's my buddy Diamond Dallas Page.
05:58And he said, Eric, you know, Scott Hall wants to leave WWE.
06:02He was Razor Ramon there.
06:03So I do the deal with Scott Hall, and about a week after that, I get a call from Kevin Nash.
06:09Same thing.
06:10Bam.
06:11The light bulb went off in my head.
06:13There's my storyline.
06:14There's my reality.
06:16Hear the club?
06:17They've got baseball bats in their hands.
06:19The NWO, the new world order.
06:21Hook, hook, hook!
06:23What is he doing?
06:24Oh my God!
06:24Is he the third man?
06:25He's the third man!
06:26What the hell is going on here?
06:28We left WWE in the dust.
06:31In the dust.
06:32We weren't just beating them.
06:33We were beating them badly.
06:36But the WWF isn't down for the count, as fans eventually begin gravitating to a new generation
06:42of superstars and a radical new approach to wrestling storylines, introduced by a brash
06:48young writer named Vince Russo.
06:51Writing a wrestling show is not rocket science.
06:54And one of the things I said to Vince when I first sat down with him, Vince, that wrestling
06:59handbook gets thrown out the window.
07:03And I said, Vince, from now on, they think we're going to go left.
07:09We're going to go right.
07:10Now, all of a sudden, week to week to week, they don't know what's going to happen.
07:16The idea of Crash TV is I am writing that TV like the viewer at home is sitting there with
07:25the remote in his hand, begging me to give him the opportunity to see what was going on
07:33on the other channel.
07:34So it would be short match, backstage segment, vignette, short match, fight in the locker
07:43room, vignette, boom, boom, boom.
07:47And you are not giving that viewer the opportunity to, ah, let's see what's on Nitro.
07:53That's Crash TV.
07:54Russo's concept of Crash TV plays a key part in turning the tide.
08:00And soon, the WWF is back on top, beating WCW every Monday night.
08:06Towards probably the middle of 98, certainly in 99, that had reversed again.
08:11Now WWE was on top.
08:14And that was a magical period.
08:15I don't want to dismiss Vince Russo's, you know, contributions, but they had Stone Cold
08:20Steve Austin and The Rock at the same time.
08:22And that's like, you know, the Yankees with Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.
08:27WCW, by the end of 99, they started losing money.
08:30They were the Titanic heading into the iceberg.
08:33My budgets were becoming slashed.
08:37Eventually, I got let go in 99 because I was fighting that.
08:40I was struggling.
08:40I was fighting it.
08:42Turner executives relieve Bischoff of his creative duties, while rumors emerge that Russo is
08:48overworked and frustrated in his role at the WWF.
08:52Well, WWF added a second show, SmackDown, and did not give Vince Russo a raise.
08:58So they went from doing one show a week to two shows a week.
09:02I went into Vince's office.
09:04I said, Vince, I want to be able to move my family closer to my wife's family.
09:10So my wife isn't alone, and she has help raising the kids.
09:15Because Vince, I'm never home.
09:20And he turned around, bro, without missing a beat and said, you make enough money, you
09:25should be able to hire a nanny to take care of your kids.
09:28You don't tell a proud Italian man who loves his family to hire a nanny to watch his kids.
09:37Bro, at that moment, it was over.
09:41And they had me up to WCW that weekend.
09:44I was shocked when WCW brought him in as a match made in heaven.
09:49Or hell, depending on who you talk to.
09:51I know I'm going into this thing with a target on my back.
09:58This is the first time I am going to be working with these veterans that have been at WCW for a long time.
10:08From day one, Hulk and Eric were like this.
10:13I can actually remember locking eyes with Hulk for the first time.
10:17And what I read from Hulk immediately was mistrust.
10:24Vince Russo was smart enough to know that you couldn't build around Hulk Hogan anymore if you wanted a future.
10:29So, yes, I think he was trying to figure out a way to remove him because Hulk Hogan had so much power because it was Hulk Hogan.
10:36I've heard the critics ask the question, well, is Hulk Hogan getting older?
10:41Well, yeah, Hulk Hogan's getting older.
10:43And so is every other damn wrestler in the back, too.
10:46Day by day.
10:47So there was this narrative that Hulk Hogan couldn't wrestle in the ring anymore.
10:52He had no value.
10:53He should retire.
10:54Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
10:56Where in reality, the business side of the wrestling business still thought very highly of Hulk Hogan.
11:03Taking the reins of WCW in October of 1999, Russo begins reshaping and reimagining the company's flagship show, Monday Nitro.
11:13Vince Russo believed, you know, the more extreme and shocking you make it, the more they will like it.
11:18We are just going to hump you like the dogs that we are.
11:23Sometimes that's right.
11:25But you also run into a thing where once you've done it, you desensitize the audience.
11:30And then there's nothing you can do.
11:32Yeah!
11:33What's the worst thing that he's done, like that you've watched?
11:37I don't know.
11:38I didn't watch this shit.
11:40I couldn't watch it.
11:41I was there for three months.
11:43The ratings went up in those three months.
11:45How are the ratings doing?
11:47Are they improving?
11:48Well, he'll tell you that they were improving, but no, they weren't up.
11:51Artificially, it looked good, but every month, if you do the month rating, the October, the November, December, every month was down slightly.
11:58Next thing I know, management tells me we're going in a different direction.
12:03And I said, okay, fine.
12:04Just, I'll go home, send me my money.
12:07Now that both Bischoff and Russo have failed to turn WCW ratings around, the network lands on a new idea.
12:14Both men working together.
12:16Brad Siegel is the head of TNT and TBS.
12:20Vince, I want you to meet somebody for lunch.
12:23I know immediately he's talking about Eric Bischoff.
12:27And now my job is to oversee Vince Russo.
12:31You know, between Vince and Eric, I never felt that there was a power struggle.
12:36My name's Jeff Jarrett.
12:38Some call me Double J, some call me the last outlaw.
12:40One, two, New Japan!
12:42I just think philosophically.
12:46Those two guys view creating and producing wrestling content entirely different.
12:52A philosophical difference as opposed to a personality difference.
12:56Is Landstrom officially a WCW net?
12:59Yes!
13:00I negotiated my contract with both Vince Russo and Eric.
13:04And I much more preferred dealing with Eric.
13:07Russo was the creative end of it and he was different.
13:10Vince Russo sat down with, all right, well, he's the guy that's going to be in charge of creative.
13:14And he's looking at me and he's like, just off the top of my head, first thing I think of, it's like, maybe making you Eric's illegitimate son.
13:21And I look at Eric and Eric has the same look on his face.
13:23What the hell?
13:24Like, isn't Eric like 10 years older than me?
13:26How is he my illegitimate dad?
13:29I did go into it with an open mind and initially it was kind of fun.
13:32But it became apparent to me that Vince Russo is void of any creative instincts or talents.
13:38You could not have put two of the most opposite people together and said, go.
13:46With WCW in trouble, the company's survival hinges on reversing its downward spiral.
14:00Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo devise a storyline designed to play off the real-life backstage drama
14:06and the tensions between Bischoff's veterans and Russo's desire to push younger talent.
14:11There's new sheriffs in town.
14:13The idea of the program was the Millionaire's Club versus the Youngblood where all these young guys that were held down,
14:23now they're going to get an opportunity to shine.
14:26A little bit of a civil war, creatively speaking, between young and old.
14:29Because that's like part of life, right?
14:32Get that damn camera out of here!
14:34Despite their efforts, Bischoff and Russo's storyline fails to win over fans or improve the ratings.
14:40Mmm, man.
14:42That whole year of 2000 was kind of like blanked out of my mind because it was so bad.
14:46Oh, good God!
14:48It was destined for failure from the beginning.
14:53Vince Russo, I was done with him creatively because I knew he was a bullshitter.
14:57Eric wanted to be in charge.
14:59So I call Brad Siegel and I say, bro, put Eric in charge of the show.
15:06Brad Siegel said to me, no, no, no, no, no, no, Vince, we want you to write the show.
15:11Okay, fine.
15:12The next time I see Eric Bischoff, bash at the beach.
15:17In the week leading up to the pay-per-view event,
15:21Russo prepares the show with a focus on who will emerge the next world champion.
15:25That week, I walked into our creative meeting and I threw a question out there at the very beginning of the meeting.
15:33And the question was, if you could put the WCW title on anyone in the company right now, who would it be?
15:41And I went around the table, Booker T, Booker T, Booker T, and unanimously, everybody said Booker T.
15:49I said, well, then that's what we're going to do.
15:52I had had the belt at this time a couple of months.
15:56And so my overarching creative was for the chosen one, Jeff Jarrett,
16:02to face multiple legends and be victorious until it was time to switch the title to Booker T.
16:08I'm going to tell you like this here, we're going to turn this mother out.
16:13Now, can you dig it?
16:14A lot of significance, a lot of upside.
16:16And I saw Vince Russo's vision and bought into it.
16:19So the main event of the evening was Jeff Jarrett versus Booker T for the WCW title with Booker T going over.
16:29He's one of those guys where you knew he was really good.
16:32Wrestling had not been kind to African-American wrestlers.
16:35Give somebody else a chance.
16:37At least it's something new.
16:37To add more intrigue to the event, Russo makes the decision to give Jeff Jarrett one last win before losing the belt to Booker T.
16:45A win over Hollywood Hulk Hogan.
16:48When I wrote the very first version of the show, it was Jarrett against Hogan.
16:54And I wrote Hulk Hogan very strong.
16:58However, he was not going to win the WCW title.
17:02Why?
17:03Because you just had an entire room agree on Booker T.
17:08Vince Russo had his idea of what he wanted to do at Bash at the Beach.
17:12Hulk Hogan and I were on a completely different page.
17:15What Vince Russo wanted to do didn't freaking matter.
17:19Hulk Hogan had 100% creative control over his storyline and how his character was presented on television.
17:27Back in 1994, Bischoff had lured Hogan to WCW by offering him one of the most generous contracts in wrestling history.
17:36I think the technical wording was he had control of his finishes.
17:39It's like if he didn't want to lose, he didn't have to lose.
17:41It's easy to sit here and say unprecedented.
17:44But to that date, someone with no ownership, but to have complete creative control, that is a conflict of interest.
17:51When a talent has creative control, it sort of comes down to the simplicity.
17:55Are they worried about their bottom line or are they worried about the company's bottom line?
18:00It's radically different.
18:01So I wrote the first script where Hulk Hogan looks very strong, but he does not win the WCW title.
18:08Hulk Hogan poo-pooed that first script.
18:11So now I rewrite the script and I really make Hulk Hogan look like King Kong.
18:17Not only does he wind up killing Jeff Jarrett, he winds up killing Scott Steiner.
18:25He literally winds up wiping everybody, but he does not leave with the title.
18:32Hulk says he's good with the second version.
18:35So now I walk into Bash at the Beach that Sunday, thinking everything's fine, and Hulk is going to do what the second script says.
18:45Eric Bischoff comes up to me and says, you better go in the trailer and talk to Hulk Hogan because he's not going to do this.
18:56Who's in the trailer?
18:57Me, Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff.
19:01So if you want to break that down, it is clearly two against one.
19:06Did Vince Russo and I discuss it several times?
19:10Yes, we did.
19:12It was my job to oversee him.
19:13It was my call, not Vince Russo's call.
19:15He didn't get to vote.
19:17He thought he did, but he didn't.
19:18Eric informs me that they came up with a scenario, and that scenario is Hulk winning the title.
19:29He wants to win the WCW title.
19:31Eric's idea is to blur the line between reality and fiction with a story angle where Hulk flexes his creative control claws to win the belt as Jeff Jarrett throws the match in disgust.
19:44Hulk, angry at Jarrett's refusal to fight, is then scripted to storm out of the ring.
19:49The idea was for Hulk to leave in a state of frustration and anger as a result of the finish of the match.
19:58The important element of it was that once WCW realized that Hulk Hogan wasn't coming back and he wasn't giving the belt back, that would force WCW to then vacate that title and create a tournament for a new world heavyweight champion.
20:16And finally, at Halloween Havoc, which was our big October pay-per-view, the two finalists in that tournament, before it physically took place, Hogan was going to make a surprise appearance and say,
20:29uh-uh-uh, I still have the belt, and if you want this, you've got to beat me.
20:35Boom.
20:36There's your story.
20:37I was pissed.
20:39Bro, you're pulling this bullshit the day of a show.
20:42I rewrote the show twice.
20:44This show is starting in an hour.
20:47It got to the point where I said, look, we're going to get on the phone with Brad Siegel, and we're going to lay it out, and we'll let Brad choose.
20:54And Brad said, go with Eric's idea.
20:56That's it.
20:57Now you've got the president of the network, who's the tiebreaker.
21:00It was over and done.
21:02Eric wanted to be in charge.
21:03He wanted things to go back to the way they were.
21:06Bro, I'm not an idiot.
21:09So, Hulk lays out this elaborate story, and I know the story ends with him winning the title.
21:15While he's laying out the story, this ear is listening.
21:21This side of my brain is figuring out another story, because he's not walking out with the title.
21:30The show starts at 8 o'clock, 7, 7.30, somewhere in that window.
21:36Vince comes to me and says, bro, in his great New Yorker accent, this is what we're doing.
21:41Jeff, Hulk doesn't want to do the job for you.
21:44F-Hulk laid out for him.
21:47Let him leave with his freaking belt.
21:49We wanted everybody to believe it.
21:52Jeff was not in on it.
21:54We wanted everybody in the back to believe this.
21:59That was the goal.
22:00Vince was pretty clear.
22:02Go to the ring.
22:03We'll get the bell to start the match.
22:05Just make it very clear.
22:07You're taking a dive.
22:09You're laying down for him.
22:11And I was dumbfounded.
22:13And I said, Vince, this story is not well thought out.
22:16It doesn't make any logical sense.
22:20And for Babyface to capture gold this way, there's a real bad taste that if a champion's going to be a champion, don't you really want to beat somebody?
22:30And this was the opposite of that.
22:33There's a million other options.
22:34I felt the audience would say, this is the best you guys could come up with?
22:40I told Vince this.
22:41Everybody loses in this scenario.
22:44Everybody loses.
22:51As Bash at the Beach 2000 begins, a storyline is in place for current WCW champion Jeff Jarrett to take a dive for Hulk Hogan.
22:59Everyone is ready to put the plan in motion until Jarrett begins having second thoughts.
23:05When it came down to match time, I had a real overwhelming sense of, do I really want to do this?
23:15Do I really want to be a part of this mess?
23:19Do I really want to walk the aisle and be a part of this finish?
23:24Those thoughts went through my mind because my father, my grandmother, my outlook on the industry, that you really only have one boss, and that's the fans.
23:36Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the year 2000 WCW Bash at the Beach and the main event of the evening.
23:49When they hit my music, I stayed in the back.
23:53But where's Jarrett? I mean, his music's been playing for well over a minute. There's no sign of him. What's going on here?
23:58This is not like the chosen one to stand us up on a pay-per-view.
24:02So my music played quite a while. I think it looped two or three times.
24:08And I stayed over in a little tunnel and really just thought through it.
24:12I could take matters into my own hands and say, I'm not doing the dive.
24:18I could, you know, jump him and make him punch me around and make him give me a big boot.
24:24What are my real options? What is going to protect my family and my career best?
24:30So much at stake here.
24:33I can't say that I was legitimately angry. I can say thoroughly disgusted.
24:39And when I finally said, let's get this over with, that was where my head was at.
24:44Here he is!
24:46By the time I headed down the aisleway, everything in my mind was,
24:51Ogun, you want your creative control so bad? Take it.
24:56You know something, Jeff Jarrett? You are!
25:00The chosen one, because I have chosen you to powerbomb your ass through this match.
25:06So come on down and get your ass kicked, Jarrett.
25:10Looking across the ring and looking at Hulk and knowing that he orchestrated all of this,
25:18I never, ever looked at him the same way.
25:21What's Jeff doing?
25:27What's Jeff doing?
25:32Wait a minute, Russo.
25:34Russo, I think, told Jarrett to lie down. What's going on?
25:39Look at him.
25:40Russo is holding the belt up like, do you want the belt?
25:42Pin the man. Jarrett's down.
25:43I don't know.
25:44And Hogan has a shot to steal.
25:45What in the world, Jeff Jarrett?
25:47How does the crowd react when Jarrett lays down?
25:51There's confusion, like they really don't know what's going on.
25:56The essence of professional wrestling through the generations has been the ability to blur the lines
26:02between what's non-fiction and what's fiction.
26:05But the old promoter adage, you confuse them, you lose them.
26:09We confused them, and we lost them.
26:12This can't be Jeff Jarrett, a man that grew up in this sport.
26:16What is going on?
26:19They just threw the world title into Hogan.
26:20He threw the belt to Hogan.
26:21What the hell?
26:23Now Russo.
26:24I'll be honest with you.
26:25All I want to make sure is this plan carries out the exact same way I laid it out in the trailer.
26:34Jeff laid down.
26:36Hulk Hogan, you're going home with your belt.
26:39This is all part of the story.
26:42Is this your deal, Russo?
26:44Wow.
26:45That's why this company's in the damn shape it's in, because of bullshit like this.
26:49The referee counted one, two, three, and I rolled out to the ring and went straight to the back.
26:59Thank God, this is real life.
27:01One, two, three.
27:05Ladies and gentlemen, that is not something they go over with us at the production meeting.
27:09Now, there are swerves and there are swerves.
27:12We've all been swerves.
27:14And we went forward exactly the way Hulk wanted to go forward.
27:18The audience believed that Hulk Hogan was pissed, and he took the belt, and he left the building.
27:24It went according to plan.
27:26We jump in the limo.
27:28We leave the arena with the belt.
27:30We go to the airport.
27:34We're on the plane.
27:35We're high-fiving, cracking a beer, laughing.
27:39Everything went the way we wanted to go.
27:41As Bischoff and Hogan leave the arena, the show continues.
27:44But what happens next will be debated by fans and insiders for decades to come, as Russo takes matters into his own hands.
27:54Well, here's Mr. Russo.
27:55What the hell is next?
27:5630 minutes later, the plane lands, and all of a sudden, Hogan's phone is blowing up.
28:06So is mine.
28:08Russo went out and cut the scathing promo and buried Hulk.
28:12This was like the big, great swerve that somehow turned real when Russo does the promo later, and things end up getting worse.
28:21There's only one way for me to do this, and that's for me to tell it like it is.
28:27You know, bro, again, these are the things people hate me for.
28:30As agreed upon before the show even started, and after Jeff Jarrett takes a dive, Hulk leaves the building with the belt, enraging and confusing the audience.
28:49Now, to the surprise of everyone, Vince Russo makes his way out to the ring.
28:53Well, here's Mr. Russo.
28:55What the hell is next?
28:57Now what?
28:58I don't know.
28:58Maybe Russo can explain to the world what we have seen.
29:03My entire life, every promo I've ever cut, there's only one way for me to do this, and that's for me to tell it like it is.
29:12I don't know what I'm going to say.
29:15I am in the moment.
29:18That's real, and that's what people believe.
29:21Here's where the story is.
29:23Here's where my character is.
29:25Go.
29:26Let me tell you people what happened out here in this ring tonight.
29:30All day long I'm playing politics with Hulk Hogan, because Hulk Hogan tonight wants to play his creative control card.
29:41And to Hulk Hogan, that meant that tonight in the middle of this ring, when he knew it was bullshit, he beats Jeff Jarrett.
29:53Because of Russo's crazy booking style, we're all like, is this the plan?
29:57Are they working us?
29:58If this was the plan, it's stupid.
30:00And if it's not the plan, it's even stupider.
30:02We're all just in there going, what the hell is going on?
30:05Hey, let me tell you who doesn't give a shit about this company.
30:09That goddamn politician Hulk Hogan.
30:13Hogan got his belt and he went the hell home, and I promise everybody or else I'll go in the goddamn grave.
30:20You will never see that piece of shit again.
30:23Adding to the confusion of the moment, Russo shocks the crowd by announcing a new main event.
30:30Hulk Hogan now has the WCW belt.
30:34That belt don't mean shit.
30:37Jeff Jarrett is still the official WCW champion, and he will defend that title.
30:43Good night in this ring against Booker Tink, who for 14 years has been busting his ass in WCW and can't get a goddamn break because of the Hulk Hogan.
30:57There were real emotions being fueled during that promo because I had it up to here with the wrestling shit.
31:06I really did, bro.
31:07I was over and I was done with it.
31:10And Hogan, you big, bald son of a bitch, kiss my ass!
31:22That was not on the format.
31:24That was not in the production meeting.
31:25That was nowhere to be found anywhere until this.
31:27We do have Booker T now against Jeff Jarrett for the WCW title.
31:32That was just booked.
31:33That's added to tonight.
31:36My plan for the main event.
31:37Booker T beats Jeff Jarrett and becomes the WCW World Heavyweight Champion.
31:42Booker knows to see Jarrett.
31:44No!
31:45He's got it!
31:46So, Hogan, congratulations.
31:49Enjoy the title.
31:50That's the fake title.
31:51The real title is going to be represented in the match with Jarrett.
31:55Booker goes over.
31:56We've got a new champion!
31:57Oh, my God!
31:59Booker T's the world champion!
32:01Booker T's the champ!
32:03Oh, my God, bro.
32:04I knew Hulk was going to be pissed.
32:08Everybody is believing this.
32:11One thousand percent.
32:14And all I'm reading is Vince Russo finally put Hulk Hogan in his place.
32:19Vince Russo finally told Hulk Hogan what should have been said to him years ago.
32:24I'm reading this and I'm saying he is going to have a severe problem with it.
32:34When Hulk gets really, really angry, he gets very quiet.
32:40Like, when he stops talking, that's when you need to start worrying.
32:44And he got real quiet after that.
32:46Like, real quiet.
32:49Russo claims he pitched this entire storyline to Hulk and Eric in the trailer, and that they agreed.
32:55Every single thing on that show was what was discussed in that trailer.
33:02Everything.
33:03From Jarrett laying down, to them leaving, to me cutting the promo, to Booker T winning the title at the end.
33:10It was exactly the way I laid it out to Hogan in the trailer.
33:15That was never my plan.
33:17I guarantee you it wasn't Hulk Hogan's plan.
33:20And, by the way, Hulk Hogan had creative control.
33:23And we certainly didn't know that Booker T was going to walk out as a world champion.
33:28Because Hulk Hogan had that world title and was going to bring it back in October at Halloween Havoc.
33:34That was the plan.
33:35Oh, my God.
33:36That was part of the plan.
33:38This is a key point.
33:40The reason you have to leave the building is because if I go out there and cut a scathing promo on you and you're still in the building, you're going to have to come kill me.
33:52Russo may believe it, but that's where the pathological part of being a pathological liar comes in.
33:57None of that was discussed in advance.
34:00None of that was approved by me.
34:02None of it was approved by Hulk Hogan.
34:04It was just the most unprofessional thing that I'd ever seen in 30 years of television.
34:11The next morning, a furious Hogan calls into a local Tampa radio show, airing his grievances for real at Vince Russo.
34:20The reason Vince McMahon is called laughing his ass off is because of a deep jerk-off like Vince Russo.
34:27That idiot went out there and told the people that he was responsible for me and Jared not having a match.
34:34He is a very stupid man.
34:36But now I'm really pissed off.
34:38I don't know how I'm going to get eaten with this Russo guy.
34:40They can pass that stupid-ass belt to Booker T, but I'm the real world's WCW champion.
34:46Did you know Hulk was going to pursue legal action?
34:48Did I know that Hulk Hogan was going to take legal action?
34:52How could you not?
34:54How could you not?
35:02Infuriated by the events of Bash at the Beach, Hulk Hogan takes legal action against Vince Russo and WCW.
35:08Because Hulk Hogan tonight wants to play his creative control card.
35:16Hogan files lawsuits for defamation and breach of contract, asserting that Russo's off-script tirade was part of the match outcome and violated his creative control clause.
35:27I believe Hogan felt double-crossed and whether Russo actually double-crossed him or he just got carried away and said shit he shouldn't have, I have no idea.
35:36But it's like, okay, you don't file lawsuits if this is just part of a storyline.
35:42It gets to a judge and the judge basically says, let me get this straight.
35:47This is a wrestling show.
35:49Vince Russo is in a wrestling ring.
35:52He is cutting a promo on a wrestling character.
35:57Where is the defamation of character?
36:00Like Hulk, you're really suing over there?
36:02Shut up.
36:03I would not have been a good witness for that.
36:05Strange times.
36:08I am cutting my promo on Hulk Hogan, not Terry Bollea.
36:15This is a story.
36:17Vince Russo is a character.
36:19Hulk Hogan is a character.
36:20If Vince Russo takes the position that because he was performing as a character that took creative liberties with another professional,
36:32that that somehow makes it legal and okay is a reflection of the man's ignorance.
36:39He's got more than a problem with facts and truth.
36:42He's got the problem with reality.
36:44And the first judge threw it out.
36:47They appealed it and it went to a second judge.
36:50First of all, I don't think that they went to multiple courts to begin with.
36:54It's not like they took it to the Supreme Court for crying out loud.
36:58The sworn depositions reveal a key piece of information that two days prior to Bash at the Beach,
37:04a fax was sent to the WCW head office.
37:07I found out after the WCW office is closed, Hulk Hogan's attorney faxes a letter to the WCW office saying Hulk Hogan is not approving that script.
37:25I have no idea of this.
37:27Here's why that doesn't hold up.
37:30It was never a discussion or a debate between Hulk and me and Russo as to whether or not we were going to do something other than what Hulk and I had laid out.
37:41It wasn't up for debate, therefore, why would there be this after-hours fax excuse?
37:49I mean, I'm trying to decide between two dishonest people discussing something from 20 years ago to do with the fax.
37:55Yeah, I don't remember a fax, but, you know, I never heard the fax story.
37:59I'll just say that.
37:59The fax exposes Hulk Hogan's real intentions to maximize the full strength of his creative control and refuse any storyline Russo proposed.
38:17Russo triumphs in the courtroom as an appeals court affirms that fictional characters cannot be defamed.
38:24However, it's Hogan who emerges victorious in his battle against WCW.
38:28Hulk made the decision the night of Bash at the Beach that I probably will not get renewed, so how can I get another paycheck from AOL Tom Warner?
38:41And that's through litigation.
38:42I'm trying to get out of my contract with these guys, and Brad Siegel's real snug about not letting me out of the contract, but that's all I've got to say.
38:50Hulk Hogan was the key to building the company, and he obviously had the biggest name, but nothing is forever.
38:55And he'd been there too long, and he became the face of failure.
38:58So at that point, he was getting paid so much, but he couldn't draw ratings to a great degree anymore, and people weren't going to go and pay to see Hulk Hogan matches that they'd seen for all those years.
39:09There was really nothing left to do with him.
39:11And then you have scumbags like Dave Meltzer, who is nothing more than a useful idiot.
39:17Even though he calls himself a journalist, Dave Meltzer to this day hates Hulk Hogan.
39:21What Hulk Hogan was trying to achieve that night remains clouded in uncertainty.
39:26You know, I've asked myself that through the years.
39:28What was Hogan's vision?
39:30What was the upside?
39:31What was the ultimate plan?
39:33Was it to create so much controversy or to get eyeballs on the product?
39:37Was it to be his version of a Montreal Screwjob or his version of a publicity stunt?
39:45I don't know.
39:46We certainly know the results of it, but I have no idea what his vision was.
39:50And Turner settled.
39:53I mean, this is fun.
39:56Because I sat with Hulk and his attorney, Henry Holmes, the day that they settled that.
40:01They took me out to dinner and told me what happened.
40:03They never gave me the amount that was confidential.
40:07But I know it was well, well into seven figures.
40:13Some folks play chess while others are playing checkers.
40:16The night at Bash at the Beach, Hulk decided to start playing chess.
40:20And he had the patience.
40:22And he cashed out.
40:30What's Jeff doing?
40:31Russo, I think, told Jared to lie down.
40:33What's going on?
40:34The facts of what actually went down at Bash at the Beach 2000 will forever be murky.
40:40But what was clear to fans that night was that the chaos and confusion
40:44only underscored the disorder and disintegration at the heart of the company.
40:50It was the reality the night this happened.
40:52And it's the reality, as I sit here today saying this.
40:55In a business that gave him everything.
40:58And that's what he gave back.
41:00It's about the most self-centered, egotistical, power play move that only benefited Hulk.
41:09And that's the reality.
41:10But I mean, as far as a storyline based on what they were doing at the time,
41:17it was something that would get people talking and could have built to something.
41:21So I did like Booker T being champion.
41:23I thought that was cool.
41:24You know, it's not same old, same old Hulk Hogan champion, right?
41:26So I guess I did like that.
41:29I do remember that.
41:30You know, thinking, ah, you know, at least it's something new.
41:32And let me tell you who doesn't give a shit about this company.
41:37That goddamn politician Hulk Hogan.
41:40It was destined for failure from the beginning.
41:45At the end of it all, I don't think the bash at the beach was the nail in the coffin for WCW.
41:51You see what it says right here?
41:53This is my ass, if you will.
41:56You know what I mean?
41:56It was like the gig was already up.
41:58It was just kind of a flattering company.
42:00WCW was a star that became a supernova and then burned itself out.
42:05In its dying days, WCW is snapped up by its longtime arch rival Vince McMahon and the WWF,
42:13despite having an attractive offer on the table from a venture capital firm spearheaded by Eric Bischoff.
42:20The deal for us to purchase WCW is for $67 million, we buy all the assets and we get placement on Monday nights and Thursday nights.
42:31That was our deal.
42:32And I got a phone call.
42:34They said, Eric, it's done.
42:36I thought he meant the deal was done.
42:38Like, we own a wrestling company.
42:40I'm about ready to jump up and start dancing.
42:43I said, you mean it's done?
42:44He goes, no, Eric, you don't get it.
42:46It's over.
42:47There's no deal.
42:48Well, Turner took it off the table.
42:51It took a minute for that to sink in.
42:54It was a fire sale at the end.
42:56Time Warner wanted to get rid of wrestling.
42:57It was like $2.5 million for the actual WCW and I think there's $1.7 million more for the tape library.
43:05It was definitely the equivalent of, you know, buying Manhattan for $25.
43:09That's right.
43:11I own WCW.
43:14I have zero regrets, man.
43:16I have zero regrets.
43:18You know, regret to me is a negative thing.
43:20It's like baggage.
43:21I try not to carry any baggage with me at all.
43:25I have said this about Vince Russo.
43:28Vince is a guy who's very passionate, like a lot of us, and does what he thinks the viewer wants to watch.
43:39And he's had successes, and he's had failures, like all of us.
43:46Do you know how little this shit matters?
43:49It is a form of entertainment at the end of the day.
43:55I don't hate any of these people, bro.
43:59This was a job.
44:01People ask me all the time today, Vince, what is your advice to get into the wrestling business?
44:07And I tell them, don't.
44:09I don't know what's your advice.
44:15I see you,molence.
44:15I'm sure you'll never forget.
44:18I'll talk to you all soon.
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