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00:00Working on a comeback. Onshore wind energy in the U.S. suffered a bit of a slump recently,
00:08but now experts say the industry is rebounding. What may help spark the recovery? We'll take a
00:13look. Plus, beanless coffee? A Seattle-based startup has devised a new way to brew a cup of
00:19joe as it bids to slash the environmental impact of the popular drink, we'll explain.
00:25And the growing debate over subsidies and whether fossil fuel companies should get
00:29tax breaks as governments push incentives for incorporating clean energy.
00:42Hello and welcome to EarthX News, where we focus on sustainability and the environment.
00:47I'm Christina Thompson. Let's get into some of the biggest headlines facing our planet.
00:52Onshore wind farms in the United States are fighting to get away from the boom and bust cycle.
00:57Despite the renewable energy source leading the country in renewable power,
01:02onshore wind farms are falling second fiddle to utility-scale solar and battery storage,
01:07which are both growing at much faster rates.
01:10If you look at 2022, onshore wind farms had the least productive year since 2018.
01:16Wind energy manufacturers suffered through this setback with layoffs and financial losses.
01:21Many experts are hoping the tax credits under the Inflation Reduction Act will be enough to turn this
01:27around. According to several reports, there have been a significant number of wind turbine collapses
01:33in the U.S. and Europe in the last 18 months. Manufacturers are pointing to the need to build
01:39more powerful turbines as the reason for the issues, citing the need to slow the adoption of new designs.
01:45According to GE's CEO, Larry Culp, rapid innovation strains manufacturing and the broader supply chain,
01:52and it takes time to stabilize production and quality on these new products.
01:57Because of the increase in malfunctions, there is now growing concern the insurance rates will swell.
02:02But despite this, investments in wind energy continue to grow.
02:06Pivoting now to this, scientists ruffling some feathers to create a better and cheaper form of clean energy.
02:12That's right, we're talking chicken feathers. Scientists in Singapore say they've discovered
02:17a way to turn the agricultural waste product into fibrils that make up a key building block
02:23of a hydrogen fuel cell. According to researchers, the keratin found in the feathers can be turned
02:29into ultra-fine fibers, which can replace highly toxic forever chemicals commonly found in the
02:35semi-permeable membrane of a hydrogen fuel cell. Not only does this new process keep millions of tons
02:42of feathers from being incinerated, reducing the carbon footprint, but it also lowers the cost
02:47of fuel cell production while ditching the need for damaging forever chemicals.
02:52And combating deforestation, that is the goal of one startup in Seattle, Washington.
02:57Atomo Coffee is the name of the company, and its new beanless cold brew is the game.
03:02Catching the eye of investors looking to slash the environmental impact of making the popular drink,
03:07the company uses superfoods and plant-based waste ingredients like date seeds to mimic
03:13the molecular structure of coffee to create the ecological cup of joe.
03:18Atomo's CEO and co-founder says sustainability issues plaguing the coffee industry helped play a role
03:23in developing their product. He said, quote,
03:26Coffee is causing deforestation at a pretty alarming rate, almost up to 10 New York Central parks a day.
03:32That's equivalent to 34 kilometers squared of forest. We're talking about a coffee machine
03:38that's never stopping, always looking for more land, and that's what we're trying to prevent.
03:43His comments come as studies find roughly half the land currently used to grow coffee
03:47could be unproductive thanks to climate change by 2050. Atomo says its initial proof of concept,
03:54cold brew beanless coffee caused 93 percent fewer carbon emissions and used 94 percent less water
04:02than regular coffee. And a California nonprofit is using wild horses as part of its forest protection
04:08plan. William Simpson II, founder of the Wild Horse Fire Brigade, says the animal's grazing habits
04:15could reduce the size and intensity of wildfires. Simpson explains the horses can help remove some of
04:21the fuel that feeds the flames by eating the brush under trees and breaking off low-hanging dry branches
04:27that catch fire easily. Simpson's organization also advocates for relocating wild horses to natural
04:34areas that need protection. But that effort has received some pushback. The opposition comes from
04:39ranchers who say wild horses use up the natural resources on the lands where they raise their livestock.
04:45According to media reports, in the U.S., animal grazing would only be a small part of the overall plan for fire
04:50management. But with a requested fire prevention budget of $4.3 billion for 2024, a small part could still be
04:58significant. A landmark summit brings together the Amazonian nations in Brazil. The eight countries that
05:05share the Amazon rainforest met as part of an effort to protect the world's largest rainforest. During the
05:11two-day event, the nations signed the Bellum Declaration, which created an alliance for fighting forest
05:16destruction, with countries left to pursue their individual deforestation goals. However, critics say the pact came up
05:23short because it did not secure deforestation commitments or address fossil fuels. A National Geographic
05:30photographer is raising awareness about America's water crisis using his camera lens. Pete McBride captured images of
05:37dwindling major waterways as a result of climate change and drought over the years. Both the Colorado River and Rio Grande have seen
05:44devastating impacts to water supply. The Rio Grande provides drinking water to more than 16 million
05:50people in the U.S. and Mexico, while the Colorado River supplies water to 40 million people in the United
05:56States. These rivers are vanishing at a dramatic rate due to farming withdrawals, rising temperatures and
06:02drought. McBride hopes his work will encourage more people to cut down on their water use. Investments in solar
06:09power are set to overtake oil production and attract over one billion dollars a day in 2023. That's
06:15according to the International Energy Agency. In fact, global investment in energy is expected to hit
06:21about 2.8 trillion in 2023. 1.7 trillion of that is set to go towards clean energy technologies like
06:29electric vehicles, renewables and storage. The reason for this is clean energy is getting cheaper. It's a lasting
06:35solution to an energy security problem. And governments are pushing incentives for incorporating
06:41clean energy. Meanwhile, President Joe Biden is trying to scrap oil and gas industry subsidies in
06:47the budget. That's according to Reuters, though the proposal itself has little chance of actually
06:52passing through a split Congress. Some think the move is meant to symbolize the growing debate over
06:57whether fossil fuel companies should continue to receive tax breaks. Environmental groups argue the
07:03subsidies are slowing the U.S. from making the shift to clean forms of energy, while oil industry
07:08companies argue they need the support to continue to provide reliable energy. According to the claims
07:15from the IMF, fossil fuels were subsidized by governments to the tune of $7 trillion globally. The
07:21IEA's findings say that number is likely closer to $1 trillion. Forbes contends all these numbers could
07:28likely be skewed. Let's dig a little deeper into these subsidies if they are or aren't important
07:33and what the true number might actually be closer to. For help with that, I want to welcome in business
07:39and markets analyst Seth Denson. Seth, thank you so much for coming on today. Are subsidies like these
07:44important for fossil fuel companies? Well, yeah, they are. But I'll tell you who they're more important
07:49for, Christina, is you and me, because we like low gas prices or at least lower. And, you know,
07:55there's a couple of things as it comes to subsidies we've got to think about. The first one being is
07:59that innovation doesn't grow on trees. It grows in brains and actual research and development.
08:04And unfortunately, what you have to do is apply those things, and that takes capital. Many banks,
08:09personal loans, I can say this, I'm an entrepreneur, it's difficult to get a loan on an innovative new
08:14idea. So subsidies play a vital role in our ability to continue to innovate and progress,
08:20especially as it comes surrounding energy. The first car didn't drive at 30 miles a gallon.
08:26It drove about two. And so getting it to 30 miles took some government subsidies along the way. So
08:30that keeps things moving forward. So is that one reason why banking, for instance,
08:35why fossil fuel industries still require these sort of subsidies? Well, sure. I mean, yeah,
08:40like I said, it keeps costs down. But it also makes them willing to invest in new technology that may
08:45improve the overall environment. Again, if I am an oil and gas company, and I've got market share,
08:51and no one else out there is innovating anything new, well, then we all kind of have a grip on the
08:55market. These subsidies really help incentivize and enhance the ability to develop and deliver new
09:03technologies.
09:03Some people might argue that these subsidies are propping up solutions that just aren't
09:08sustainable on their own long term. Do you agree with that?
09:11Well, they're not sustainable on their own, at least not right now. Nuclear is a perfect example of that.
09:14It would be cost prohibitive to adopt nuclear energy across the board, even though it is a long term solution
09:20that could help supply a solution to oil and gas and fossil fuel requirements. Solar is another example. At its
09:28best, solar is about 40 percent effective, and on average, it's about 20 percent effective. So again, we want
09:33reliability. And right now, that's fossil fuels.
09:37Right. Some might say, though, that that's why we need the battery storage, for example, when we're talking about
09:41things like nuclear, solar energy, to be able to prop them up at the times when it's just simply
09:45not able to provide power for the entire United States or the world. But I'm wondering if these
09:50renewable energy sources will eventually be able to compete once subsidies perhaps come to an end.
09:57Well, we're a long ways off. And let's just take automobiles, for example. You've got roughly
10:01two billion drivers across the globe, about 80 million new vehicles. At current production rates,
10:07you couldn't get enough EV vehicles to supply the population demand for about 25 years. So could
10:12we eventually get to a place where we are completely eliminated reliance upon fossil fuels? I suppose it
10:19could happen. It may not happen and probably won't happen in my lifetime. But that doesn't mean we don't
10:24strive for it. That's the beauty of innovation. It constantly has its own beta test on both adoption
10:30and execution. Do you think that if we keep pumping money into renewable energy sources, even if they fail,
10:36if we find just one that has the potential to provide more energy than fossil fuels, do you
10:41think it's worth it? Well, it has to be a balance. That's an open-ended question. So it's hard to say
10:45worth it unless you know what the totality of that number is. You don't continue to throw good money
10:50after bad. But you have to continue to try to innovate. And what I like to see is that we are
10:54seeing that. But I'll tell you where we're seeing it most, Christina, is we're seeing it in the private
11:00sector. That private sector, though, is getting subsidized by the government. And that's a positive thing.
11:05And that's a good use of some of our tax money. All right, Seth Dunson, thank you so much for
11:09coming on the show, for sharing your expertise. It's always a pleasure. Thanks, Christina.
11:13When countries go to war, the environment may get overlooked. Coming up, we'll explore how conflicts
11:18impact the planet's most important ecosystems. Stay tuned. This is such an important topic. The effects
11:25are infinite. And we always look at getting to the peace place or conflict resolution. But that's when
11:32real work starts to begin. Because if the world's going to get together at the UN level or a multinational
11:37level, it really ought to be what are we going to do about how we damage the environment once the war
11:43is over? How do we get at the best remediation that we possibly can?
11:47The world is now watching two more extremely significant wars, the war in Ukraine and Israel's
12:13war against Hamas. Not only does war destroy the people and communities in the areas it ravages,
12:20it also claims a silent casualty, the environment. The mass destruction to the earth is often an
12:26overlooked consequence of war. But regardless of intention, war can cause deep environmental harm.
12:32Soldiers dig trenches, tanks flatten vegetation, bombs scar landscape, and destroy soil for decades or
12:38longer. Weapons also spew toxic gases and particles into the air and leak heavy metals into soil and
12:45water. Here to help shed a light on this less talked about horror of war is retired Brigadier
12:51General Blaine Holt. General Holt, thanks for coming on the show. We appreciate it. I wanted to ask you,
12:56what are the impacts of war on nature and the environment?
12:59You know, Christina, this is such an important topic. The effects are infinite. And we always look
13:07at getting to the peace place or conflict resolution. But that's when real work starts to begin, because
13:13there are so many people that have died from the environmental effects after the war is long gone
13:19and done. You know, and it can be things that are so glaring and obvious, like chemicals that have been
13:24burst into the ground, or it could be depleted uranium shells that have created a radioactivity
13:32problem. But there's other effects that don't so easily get measured. If you remember the fall of the
13:39Soviet Union, half the wild boar population was gone because there was no economy, nobody could feed
13:45themselves, and they went out and just started exterminating every single wild boar that they had. If you go to
13:49Africa, we see 90% of the herbivores that are in the midsection of Africa depleted, depleted simply
13:57because the war factions either kill their environment or they kill them for food. It just
14:04goes on and on for trenches. And so if the world's going to get together at the UN level or a multinational
14:09level, it really ought to be what are we going to do about how we damage the environment once the war is
14:15over? How do we get at the best remediation that we possibly can? That's such a good point that you
14:20make is because we often think about while the wars are happening, so many innocent lives are being
14:24lost, they're being taken, and it's so terrible. But we don't often think about the after effects and
14:30the fact that the environment being damaged will also claim more lives. I mean, we haven't had a war
14:35on our own soil in many of our lifetimes. But we think about 9-11. And we know that people who lived in New
14:41York City during that are still dying because of the effects and the leftover lasting impact that 9-11
14:46had here in the water, in the air, all the people who fought back against it that day through the
14:51rubble. So let's expand on that and talk about the wildlife, the soil, the water and species in the
14:57area, especially after bombs are dropped. What happens to them? Right. So let's look at Ukraine because
15:03it's very topical right now. If you look at the damage from the reopening of some of the radioactive
15:10grounds in Chernobyl, the potential for Zaporizhia to get hit. And then you look at cluster bombs,
15:17depleted uranium shells, millions of landmines. What Ukraine will be dealing with afterwards is a lack of
15:24food. They'll be dealing with water that's undrinkable. They'll be dealing with stillborn death rates as a
15:30result of that, cancer rates that are soaring out of control. It will go on and on and on. So if you were to
15:37measure the start of the Ukraine war as 2022 to when it really, really ends, when you've got a
15:42stabilized environment again, you would, you would see that that war would last years and years.
15:47Who's there then? Who's there to clean up the destruction after the war quote unquote ends when
15:52a peace deal is signed? Is it the locals? Are there countries? Does the military take over?
15:56Yeah. Oftentimes it's the countries and the municipalities themselves that are left
16:00holding the bag. But quite honestly, this isn't a politically attractive subject for anyone after
16:06the war is over. So you don't see the UN standing up and saying, how are we all going to contribute to
16:12a global fund for war cleanup? So to your point, there is no centralized place. It's not in our psyche
16:19as a process that, oh my gosh, we've been to war. It was horrific, but we've got work to do now.
16:24And maybe if we actually centered on doing that work, there'd be more of a deterrent to having
16:29future wars. Obviously, we do want to be very clear that human life lost is the greatest tragedy
16:35of war. No means are we trying to diminish that pain and suffering of those who are truly enduring
16:39the horrors of war currently. But do you think the effects on the environment are often ignored? I
16:46mean, the earth and everyone on it, as we've been saying, will suffer for years to come as a result of
16:51these conflicts that are even thousands and thousands of miles away from home?
16:56No, that's exactly right. The ecosystem gets damaged when we have these big wars. And then,
17:02God forbid that we would ever have a full-up nuclear exchange, we understand where that goes,
17:07and likely it goes to the ultimate bad place. But what we don't do is we never account for the true
17:14costs of war. And what I love about your show is that you're examining a significant cost imposition
17:23to humanity from having these wars. It doesn't mean we can eliminate the wars, but it does mean that we
17:28ought to calculate what is that damage going to be going forward and how do we address it?
17:33Absolutely. Very true. Brigadier General Blaine Holt, thank you so much for coming on the show,
17:37for sharing your expertise.
17:38Great to be with you.
17:40And coming up, could helping the planet be the key to easing tensions between the U.S. and China?
17:46We'll explore whether these two nations can find some common ground
17:49when it comes to the world's changing climate. Stay tuned.
17:53Welcome back to EarthX News. As tensions grow between China and the United States,
18:11there might be one area of common ground that promises to bring these two countries together.
18:17It's the environment. China says they want to strengthen cooperation with the United States
18:22to combat climate change. In fact, climate is one of the few issues China and the U.S.
18:27sometimes agree on.
18:28This is where the solutions are really going to come from. This is where the solutions are most
18:33needed. So I would like to encourage our friends, our business partners, our colleagues in China
18:40to come and share what they are learning and learn also from other regions about how we can solve
18:46the most pressing challenge facing all of humanity.
18:49Relations between the world's largest greenhouse gas emitters has been on a downworld spiral in recent
18:55years. Trade disputes, military tensions and accusations of spying, amongst other disagreements,
19:01are in part to blame for the tension.
19:03Today, we're in the strongest position in decades to compete with China or anyone else in the world.
19:09Anyone else in the world.
19:11And I'm committed.
19:12Over the summer, John Kerry, the U.S. special envoy on climate change, joined bilateral talks with Chinese
19:18climate leaders. They focused on issues like reducing methane emissions, limiting coal use,
19:23curbing deforestation and helping poor countries address climate change. They also discussed touchier
19:28topics like China's objections to U.S. tariffs and import restrictions of Chinese solar panels
19:33and battery compounds. Washington wants to protect U.S. manufacturers from low-cost competitors in China.
19:40China is beginning to change some of the rules of the game in terms of trade and other issues.
19:48I want to see China succeed economically. I don't want to see them succeed by the rules.
19:52Republicans accused the Biden administration of being too soft on Beijing in climate diplomacy.
19:58They say China continues to increase its greenhouse gas emissions while the United States pays a lot
20:04of money trying to clean it up. Kerry is one of several U.S. officials to visit China this year to try to
20:09reestablish a stable bilateral relationship. Both countries say they should be able to collaborate
20:15on climate change regardless of other disagreements. History proves that when the U.S. and China
20:21demonstrate they can at least find common ground when it comes to the planet, the rest of the world
20:26takes note. Take, for example, the Paris Climate Accord in 2015 when governments agreed to limit the
20:32industrial era rise in global temperatures. The passing of the Inflation Reduction Act counters China's
20:38dominance in the clean energy sector, reviving U.S. manufacturing. While China has added more
20:44renewable energy than the rest of the world combined, it also just pivoted back to coal,
20:49issuing its highest number of new permits for coal plants since 2015. But both Chinese and U.S.
20:55leaders want to see their nation's green tech leaders lead the world market, not least as a means of
21:00generating profit from this costly socioeconomic transition. While some fears may now be soothed,
21:07one fact remains. The U.S.-China relationship is precarious at best, and relying on continued
21:13cooperation between the two countries to solve global climate problems is dangerous. And before we leave
21:20you, take a look at this video. It's a rare species of octopus. It was recently spotted in the North Pacific
21:25Ocean. It is from NOAA's Ocean Exploration Trust and posted by NPR, deep-sea explorers revealing
21:32an intriguing encounter with the Dumbo octopus. The invertebrate is named after the flying elephant
21:39for its large, floppy, ear-like fins on the side of its head. The species is known to live over a mile
21:45below the ocean's surface, and it's rarely ever seen. All right, that's it for this edition of EarthX News.
21:50Please join us again next week. I'm Kristina Thompson.
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