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Esta entrevista-lectura de poesía tuvo lugar el miércoles 23 de abril en la cabina de Radio Sinaloa, en la ciudad de Culiacán, en el programa radiofónico "Voces nuestras", que realiza la periodista y escritora Tania del Río, y fue en la Semana de Pascua de 2025, justo después del XXX Festival Internacional de las Artes Navachiste (que es siempre en Semana Santa).
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Ángel Gustavo Rivas
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Ángel Gustavo Rivas
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00:18With a knee to life, that's how I come in.
00:23Although I already thought I was inside before.
00:26He had been living in my body for a long time.
00:28But there was a lot that escaped me.
00:32Sometimes you need certain stimulation to be aware of the steps your two feet take.
00:40Because sometimes you just walk, without realizing it, through the streets or along the sidewalks of the beautiful life you have.
00:50How different is it to walk after being kneed?
00:54Like the one I already gave.
00:56On the hard enamel of the earth.
00:59On the hard floor of an old house.
01:03About a century of history already past.
01:08Because the knee I gave to the ground went from eight meters to the ground.
01:13All beaten up, I stopped to live in a different way.
01:19Dancing is how I started my new life.
01:22And I continued writing verses afterwards.
01:24But the most important and new thing, what I gained with each fall, has been this profound way of feeling life.
01:35It has been this desire to enjoy.
01:38Oh, however, beware of vulgarities.
01:42I fell from a height.
01:45I've hit rock bottom.
01:47And I come from the depths.
01:49Walking on the ground.
01:51With the desire to live that the earth gave me.
01:55In response to the knee I gave him.
01:58And here I go.
02:00With that winning knee.
02:03Jumping and kneeing between life.
02:07When I thought I was in before.
02:12And here I go.
02:13Announcing my fall in my song.
02:17Preaching the virtue of the knee strike, which, if delivered properly, is an invaluable stimulus for walking.
02:27Otherwise, on the same ground, with the same feet.
02:33After!
02:34How are you?
02:36Well, this is how I welcome our guest today.
02:38As you can guess, he is a poet, he is from Culiacán.
02:43And well, he studied Hispanic literature at the UAM.
02:47Since 2015, she created and has directed the Literary Afternoons of the Honorable National Student House in Mexico City.
02:55Where it promotes literature and dialogue around it.
03:00Well, he has taught various courses, workshops, and has published in magazines.
03:06Right now I'm reading one of his books called Crazy Hope of My Life.
03:14Angel Gustavo Rivas, welcome.
03:17Hello, good afternoon.
03:19Well, thank you very much.
03:21How are you?
03:21How did you feel hearing your lyrics on air?
03:24Great, great.
03:25It sounds great, read by you.
03:27I think I'll ask you to read them more often.
03:29Well, I've seen some of your videos on YouTube where you're explaining, for example, how the words "perhaps" and "quite possibly" are applied.
03:41When do you say one? When do you say the other?
03:43Among many other tasks, right?
03:46And classes, masterclasses that you share.
03:50Yes, we have that YouTube channel, and right now things are a little irregular, but it's still active.
03:59That channel emerged a long time ago as an idea, with the idea of helping, let's say, learn about language and literature.
04:08Well, to interested people in general, yes, yes, yes.
04:11And we do rhetoric about literary creation and the Spanish language.
04:17Tell us about yourself. How did you become a poet? Or do you not consider yourself a poet yet?
04:22Of course, of course.
04:24I started fantasizing, let's say, about being a poet when I was a primary school child.
04:29And I started reading.
04:31One day my father came home with the encyclopedia The Treasure of Youth.
04:35And that was where I had an experience that I no longer remember if it was before or after.
04:39Very significant with reading in primary school, in third grade.
04:43And this encyclopedia, already used, brought me closer and made me fall in love because it was a gateway.
04:48I learned many stories from universal literature in abbreviated forms, many definitions of things from poetry, etc.
04:56And I grabbed, I grabbed one volume and grabbed the other and grabbed the other.
05:00And it was a crush.
05:03And I thought, for me, at that moment I didn't know if it could be possible or not, but I just loved the idea of being a writer.
05:10That's it, well, here you are fulfilling your dreams.
05:14This book I'm holding, the one I just mentioned, has just been published, right? Congratulations.
05:22Well, this book is already a little while old.
05:24It was published in 2020 by the Sinaloa Institute of Culture.
05:28And, well, I just acquired these copies now that I had the opportunity to come back here to Culiacán.
05:34But yes, he's already about five years old and, well, we're already, in fact, we've been a little slow, but we're already working with him.
05:43We are, I say, because then I include myself, I speak to myself in the plural sometimes when it's a matter of literary work because, well, I have a little companion now who accompanies me sometimes in these pleasures of literature, who is my son.
05:57But, well, I'm working, let's say, without much pressure, without much rush, but already on the material for a next book, yes.
06:04You also have this other anthology about Navachiste.
06:09You should know that Navachiste is a place where the International Arts Festival takes place, here in Guasave, which is called the Island of Poets.
06:23And, well, that's where I met Ángel Gustavo Rivas, with whom we're talking today.
06:28And, well, this publication just came out called Navachiste or the Blues of the Jegenes.
06:36And it's an anthology of poetry by many of the Navachisteros who go there.
06:41And here you have two of your poems, three published poems.
06:46Would you like to share one with us?
06:47How are you?
06:48Talking about the sea, the beach, the island.
06:50Of course. This anthology was created from the idea that Navachiste is the most poeticized bay in the world.
07:00That is to say, it's the bay about which the most poets have written poetry, thanks to the Arts Festival, which has now held its 30th edition.
07:08And, yes, it came out this year. This one just came out this year.
07:11Also published by ICIC and Navachiste Ediciones.
07:14And yes, it includes three of my poems. There are 33 poets in the anthology in total.
07:20And well.
07:21Here's one. One of them. One of your three published poems.
07:25Footprints in the sand, like the footprints left on the wind by the night, an invisible mark that offers no clues, so your footprints, not forever engraved in the sand of the sea, perhaps for a time, perhaps, in the memorable sand of your memories.
07:44There the footprints, in you, while your lips feel the kiss you remember, while your hands feel the caresses, while your heart beats in your chest, while you know how to love despite everything.
07:59The footprints, then, will remain marked inside your heart, on the sand of your chest, inside, by the beautiful nights you spent there.
08:09Bravo. Well, that's how you enjoy poetry, letters, texts. What do you enjoy about life?
08:19Well, in general, I try to enjoy everything in life, because if we have to choose, I think we enjoy very little. Of course, there are things that are favorites.
08:30Also, tell us about your life. You were born in Goliacán, but moved to Mexico City. And what do you feel living away from the land of your birth has left you with?
08:41We all sometimes think that traveling broadens our horizons, right? We learn new things, we meet new people, too.
08:49Sometimes, the world teaches us, it takes away our naughty ways, right? At home, you don't want to eat what your mom gives you, but you go out into the world, you go hungry, and then you go back home to your mom, and now you say, yes, Mom, thank you.
09:03And you eat what he gives you. But tell us, how did it go with you?
09:07Yes, of course. Yes, I was born here in Goliacán, and here, well, I did, so to speak, my basic education, up to high school. I even spent a year at the Autonomous University of Sinaloa, at the School of Philosophy and Letters.
09:22but then I left due to life circumstances, and I was planning to return again the following year to the UAS and finish my degree in literature, but Navachiste appeared, and after Navachiste I went to wander around for a while,
09:34to visit friends in Mexico City, I was going for a week, but I've been living there for fifteen, sixteen years now.
09:44I studied literature in Aguamistapalapa, but yes, as for the other part of the question, I don't think I could explain it very well, but there are definitely many things that change, right?
09:55Not only the vision, but you also look at yourself and the people where you come from a little more when you're away, right?
10:04It's a perspective you might never get if you never go out, right?
10:08For example, I used to think that our Spanish was the most neutral in terms of accent, that of the Sinaloans,
10:14Until I spent some time in Mexico City and met Sinaloans again, I realized the very marked Sinaloan accent, right?
10:22I didn't notice it because...
10:23Because you lived here and heard the same thing all the time.
10:26Yes, and in a way, let's say I gradually, unintentionally, as a natural result, obtaining an accent that, in my opinion, was more neutral.
10:36The good thing is that you don't speak like a chilango now.
10:38No, not at all. In fact, the way I speak now, I realize I speak more neutrally than my siblings.
10:46For example, when I come here I realize, although when I come here it infects me again, so to speak, it sprouts naturally because it is my original accent.
10:53But still, people in Mexico City immediately detect that I have a northern accent, right?
10:58When I speak.
10:59And regarding language, for example, today is also International Day of the Spanish Language and Book Day, this program and this invitation are very appropriate. Thank you very much.
11:08So, regarding language, Guete said, for example, that someone who doesn't know another language knows nothing about their own language, and something similar happens with culture.
11:15That is to say, when you know and immerse yourself in cultures that, even if it's Mexico, well, it's different, everything is different, they have tamale sandwiches, well, you begin to notice things and see the physiognomy, the shape, the structure of your own culture.
11:32Mexico is so diverse, so different, the north, the south, the center, you go to the capital city and you see such different physiognomies and we are all Mexicans, right?
11:45And you also hear every word, every phrase, every accent, every form, every expression, and we are all Mexican, we are all one country.
11:54And as you were saying, well, that also accentuates our preferences and tastes, right?
12:04But we are also opening our appetite for other things that we are already familiar with.
12:11Like, no, I don't like tamale cakes, I don't think I would ever eat something like that, not even romeritos.
12:17But well, this, well there are other things that, that they have left us, for example, I really like stews with plantain.
12:27You see, these foods are a little sweet, which is common in Campeche, in Yucatán, right? It's delicious.
12:36But anyway, let's get back to the topic of letters and poetry.
12:39What do you think about us reading this one that gives the name to your book?
12:44Perfect. This is the first poem in the fourth section of the book.
12:51The section is dedicated to my brothers, so I'm going to read the dedication as well.
12:56To Lupita, Arturo, Cristian and Miguel, my brothers.
13:01What hope of my life, what hope that never ends, what hope that always walks, that if it doesn't find, it invents a way.
13:11Faithful companion of my thoughts, discreet beloved of my flirtatious soul, crazy and crazy, but always discreet, my provider of new breath.
13:22Don't ever abandon me or leave me, with you inside my chest swells.
13:28If you are missing, my life is cut short, remain in my chest like a bird in its nest.
13:33If I didn't have a crazy hope, how sad my baroque life would be.
13:39Bravo!
13:40Thank you, thank you.
13:42How are you? Well, it's nice to say hello to your brothers and sisters, to your family.
13:46Well, tell me an anecdote, maybe about a time you taught a class or were speaking in public or wanted to compose or were recording one of your YouTube videos and things didn't work out. How do you deal with things when you can't get them right?
14:05Well, when it comes to recording videos it is very common.
14:08And I'm talking about when there's an audience, especially. When you're alone, it's fine, but when there's an audience, how do you handle it?
14:15Well, in a way, well, I always record the classes when I'm alone, but when I was, when I started, the first time I taught classes, I was studying for my bachelor's degree and I was teaching classes to students who were going to take their entrance exam.
14:29Well, it was perhaps a slightly embarrassing experience, but it was very easy to resolve, because in reality in this case it wasn't my mistake.
14:39Partly yes, because I hadn't reviewed that material, but I had just given an explanation to the students about, I don't know, a figure of speech.
14:47I don't remember exactly. The thing is, a girl picked up the book and questioned me and said,
14:51Ah, yes, professor, because here look, my book says it's like this and it was something different and it was a mistake in the book.
14:57Yeah.
14:57So, um, all the guys started to, like ...
15:03Yeah.
15:03And well, I just, I, I waited for them to laugh, for them to finish, for them to relax.
15:09Yeah.
15:09And I explained to them, I took the book, I said, well, books are made by human beings, they're not perfect, books have mistakes.
15:17What is here is a mistake and the thing is as I am explaining it to you.
15:21The children, children in theory, were teenagers, 16, 18 years old, even 20.
15:26Well, they weren't children anymore and this, because there were people who were already grown up and it was that, just like staying calm and going over the same thing.
15:35Well there's some great advice.
15:37Well, let's close this interview and this space with one more poem, thanking our voice, Ángel Gustavo Rivas, a poet from Culiacán, who wrote this, and which I share and dedicate to all of you.
15:52One more page, go step by step, don't expect or demand more from yourself, stay here with yourself, come here, one more page, give yourself a hug, don't fall into worldly deceptions, take one step after the other as you walk.
16:12Don't want to write or publish anything more, avoid such mistakes for love, go and eat some tamales instead, go and drink a beer instead, choose the least of the evils, avoid headaches.
16:32You understand very well what I'm saying, I know, because I'm you, what's up with you.
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16:44Our land.
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16:49Those are our voices.
16:54Thank you for being part of our community.
16:56We'll be waiting for you Monday through Friday at four to hear more of our voices.
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