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Cardi B sits down with Billboard’s Carl Lamarre in anticipation of her second album ‘AM I THE DRAMA.’ The star gets candid on everything from why the album took years to release, ‘WAP’ and ‘UP’ being a part of the track list, female rap beefs and her relationship with Stefon Diggs.
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00:00Because imagine if I give them all the albums that they want, they'll probably give me a hundred million dollar bag
00:05But I'm not, I don't rush it because it's like
00:08I have to, I have to make greatness
00:11What's going on y'all, I am Senior Director of R&B Hip Hop, Mr. Karl Lamar
00:22And we are here with one of music's most transcendent superstars
00:26She is a Grammy Award winner, five chart toppers on the Hot 100
00:32Miss Cardi B
00:34Hi, how are you?
00:35I'm good, how are you?
00:36It's been a long day shooting, but I'm here
00:39You've been trooping, a real soldier
00:43We're here because album number two
00:46Yes
00:47It's finally here, you know, it's been seven years since Invasion of Privacy
00:52How would you say you have grown since then?
00:55Well, since the seven years I have experienced a lot
00:59I have experienced fame, the good and the bad of fame
01:03The hate, the jealousy, the drama, the personal life
01:08The balancing my career with my personal life
01:12And just growing up and maturing and like opening my eyes more
01:17Learn how to like control my emotions more, or like understand my emotions
01:22Or like understand just the way that life works
01:25And like it's just how to play chess better
01:29Right
01:29Yeah
01:30I mean listen, I think you've been playing chess pretty damn well
01:32Well, you know
01:34At any moment in the past seven years, did you question or have any doubts?
01:39Like shit, I don't know if this second album is going to drop
01:44No, never
01:45I always knew that I was going to drop a second album
01:47It's not even about dropping a second album
01:49I never, I never felt like I was going to stop doing music
01:52I'm not really into like, is that
01:53Oh, I'm never going to do a second
01:55No, I don't know if I'm going to ever drop a second album
01:57Because it's like, I always dropped music
01:59I always did drop music
02:01So it's not like I never stopped doing music
02:03I just didn't thought I had a project well put together
02:09Like sometimes my fans be like, oh, you should have put out a project
02:12When WAP was out or like when UP was out
02:16But it's like, I only had like four records that I liked to be honest with you
02:19I didn't have an album done around that time
02:23And it's like, I'm not the type of person that is like, you know what?
02:26I'm just going to lock in in two months
02:28And I'm going to just complete an album
02:31And I'm going to just do 30 songs
02:32And I'm going to just put it out there
02:33No, I'm very picky with my music
02:35I'm very this
02:36A lot of people say it's because I got comfortable
02:39Because I make money
02:40But it's like, the most money I make is when I go and do shows
02:44Yeah
02:45So it's like, I could just rush and just put out music
02:49Like it's nothing
02:49And then just pick up millions of dollars per show
02:53But I just, it's not about that
02:56It's like, I want it to be great
02:58You know what's so crazy?
02:59I've said this on record
03:01I've written about it
03:02I know I've told you about it
03:04But
03:04I always felt like because you dropped the classic off the rip
03:07Yeah
03:08If you really wanted to
03:09Yeah
03:10You could have just pulled a lower and hip
03:11And dropped one off
03:14But to, to everybody else is a classic
03:17And I'm so happy that it's a classic
03:19But I don't see, I don't see things like that
03:21I see it as, like, it's like, I drop an album
03:24I never stop doing music
03:25So I just don't see it like
03:27Oh, well, she just dropped an album and that's it
03:29I never stop, drop
03:30And you could do, like
03:31I never think
03:32One off singles like you've been doing
03:33Like, Wop, Up
03:34Yeah, but I want to put out this whole project
03:36Because I got a lot of songs
03:37I've recorded in the past seven years
03:39Like, 60 songs
03:39To be honest with you
03:40So it's like, it's there
03:42I just, from 60 songs
03:44I might not like
03:45I don't know
03:47Like, every other day
03:48I'm a different person
03:49Every other day
03:50Like, I change my mind
03:51Every other day
03:51I like something
03:52And then I don't, so
03:53Female rap has evolved so much
04:02Since you first dropped
04:04I'm curious
04:05In terms of, like, the competition
04:06How do you make sure to still
04:07Stay confident
04:08And true to your craft?
04:11I'm confident
04:12And true to my craft
04:14Because it's just like
04:15I mean, I guess it's something
04:16That you're gonna have to, like
04:17Ask the fans
04:18Because at the end of the day
04:19So many girls
04:20They come
04:20They go
04:21They great
04:22And yet
04:22They asking for my product
04:24Like
04:24I wouldn't be confident
04:26If nobody asking for your shit
04:27Like, imagine if nobody
04:29Asking for an album of yours
04:30Every year there's a debate
04:32On social media
04:34Every year there's a podcaster
04:36Talking about
04:37When is my album dropping?
04:39They not saying it about
04:40Other people
04:42So it's like
04:43Y'all need to ask them
04:44That's why I'm so confident
04:45Now
04:46If nobody asking about your shit
04:49Like, or asking about my shit
04:50I wouldn't be confident
04:52I would be
04:53Like, damn
04:54They really don't like my shit
04:56They really don't like my product
04:57I'm sad
04:58But
04:59That's why I just feel so good
05:00Like, it's like
05:01As long as
05:02As long as people
05:03Want your stuff
05:04I'm gonna stick with what I know
05:05I'm gonna stick with what I love
05:07But I make it good
05:08Yeah
05:08I'll make it good
05:10You make it great
05:12You know
05:12I'm curious because
05:15Like, I feel
05:16In hip-hop
05:16They do this a lot
05:17Unfairly
05:18Like, men typically like
05:20Seeing when female
05:22Rappers clash
05:23Yeah
05:23And I'm curious
05:24Like, is there a world
05:25Where everybody
05:26Can coexist peacefully
05:28Or do you feel like
05:28Hip-hop thrives
05:29Off that competition?
05:31Sometimes
05:32At first
05:32I feel like
05:34It's like
05:34Fans
05:37And like
05:38People
05:39Like, in hip-hop
05:41People will make it
05:42But then sometimes
05:43No lie
05:44These bitches be catty
05:45They do be catty
05:47Sometimes you could be like
05:49I be feeling like
05:51I came in the game
05:52And I still be
05:53Like this in the game
05:54Even when you bitches come in
05:56Like, it's like
05:57I avoid trying to be shady
05:59If you avoid
06:01Trying to be shady
06:02And they still being funny
06:03Towards you
06:04You can't do nothing
06:06About that
06:07You can't
06:08You can't prevent
06:09A bitch from being shady
06:11And it's just like
06:12You need to know
06:13Who you really
06:13Who you really
06:14Challenging for real
06:15I said it
06:22You know, earlier
06:23Five number one singles
06:25Thirteen top ten
06:27Grammy award winning
06:28Everybody
06:29Was talking about
06:31The big three
06:31And then
06:32There's the big three
06:33Of course
06:34On the female side
06:35You, Nicki, Meg
06:36Knowing your accomplishments
06:38Even without album number two
06:40Why are you still
06:41In the big three
06:42Of female rap?
06:44It's just
06:45Because I
06:46I feel
06:46It's because
06:47I do my job well
06:48I do my job well
06:50Like, I do music very well
06:52I take my time with music
06:53Clearly
06:53You can see
06:54I take my time with music
06:55It's just something
06:58You gotta ask the fans
06:59Like, there's so many
07:00That come
07:01There's so many
07:01That goes
07:02And it's just like
07:03I'm still here
07:04I don't know
07:05I feel like
07:06I took a whole year
07:06Damn, when was the last time
07:08I practically put a single
07:09Like, it was
07:09I think I was
07:11Like what was
07:12Yeah, like what?
07:13I was like two months
07:22Pregnant with my daughter
07:22And my daughter's about
07:23To be a year old
07:24So it's like
07:24You just gotta have
07:26We just gotta ask the fans
07:27Like, why me?
07:28Why y'all love me so much?
07:29Why y'all love my music so much?
07:30I could downplay it
07:31I could downplay my accent
07:32I don't know
07:33Because of my accent sometimes
07:35But
07:36I really put a lot
07:38Of thought
07:39In my stuff
07:40And I really put
07:40A lot of
07:41Time in it too
07:42Like
07:43I don't like to
07:44Half-wake anything
07:45I don't like to
07:46Half-ass nothing
07:47Right
07:47Nothing, nothing
07:48You know
07:49You know what I love this year
07:50At the Grammys
07:52We got to see
07:54Dolce win best
07:56Rap album
07:57She after you
07:59Y'all are the only
07:59Two female
08:00Rappers
08:02To win
08:03Best rap album
08:04In 25 years
08:05Yeah
08:05What does that mean
08:07For girls
08:08Trying to come up
08:09In female rap
08:10Looking up to that
08:11Accomplishment
08:11And were you and Dolce
08:13Even able to
08:14Chop it up about
08:15That moment together
08:16I remember you presented
08:17Well we wasn't
08:18We wasn't able to
08:19Talk about it
08:20She was very emotional
08:21Backstage
08:21I know her mom
08:22Was very very emotional
08:23Yeah
08:24It meant so much
08:25To me because
08:26It was just like
08:27In such a time
08:28That I
08:29I didn't know
08:30The certainty
08:30Of my career
08:31And I didn't know
08:32Nothing
08:32About my career
08:34Like I didn't know
08:35Nothing about the industry
08:36I didn't even walk around
08:37With security
08:38Like I didn't understand
08:39Anything
08:40So at that time
08:43So at that time
08:43Just
08:44My career
08:47Just starting
08:48Being pregnant
08:49Sleeping in the studio
08:50Having a cold
08:51Every single day
08:53Having new managers
08:54Being in litigation
08:55All that stress
08:57But all of that
09:00And I still was dedicated
09:03And me being dedicated
09:04And me being
09:05Me having a deadline
09:07And me being able
09:08To win a Grammy
09:09Like it's like
09:09Yes
09:11I sold a lot of records
09:13And yes
09:14I had a lot of hit records
09:15And then being recognized
09:17For it
09:17With the most
09:18Prestige award
09:19Like it's just like
09:20You can never take that
09:21From me
09:22Into the privacy
09:23Cardi B
09:24Everybody always
09:28Want to downplay it
09:28But everybody wants one
09:29Every year
09:31People want to downplay
09:32The Grammys
09:33But every year
09:34They submit their music
09:36So it's like
09:36I
09:37Was what
09:39They make up narratives
09:40It's your label
09:41Or it's your this
09:42But it's like
09:42I
09:43When was it
09:44It wasn't last year
09:45It was the year before
09:46There were so many artists
09:48That
09:49Never been on
09:51High 100 billboards
09:52Like I mean
09:54There was an artist
09:55That was literally
09:56On my
09:56On my Netflix show
09:58Rhythm and Flow
09:59That he got nominated
10:00It's safe to say
10:02That growth is an
10:03Uncomfortable process
10:04And pain is a
10:05Necessary investment
10:06Yeah D Smoke
10:07He got nominated
10:08For a Grammy
10:09So it's like
10:09A lot of people
10:10Will downplay it
10:11Like oh
10:12It's a label thing
10:13But it's like
10:14It's art
10:14It's a lot of artists
10:16Everybody wants
10:17That gold trophy
10:17That people probably
10:19Never heard of
10:20That still get
10:20That get
10:21Nominated
10:22It's about
10:24The passion
10:26I feel like
10:28The people from the board
10:29Could tell
10:29When somebody
10:30Put passion
10:31Put pain
10:32Put time
10:33On their shit
10:34When I submit my album
10:35When I submit my records
10:36If I lose
10:37I lose
10:38And if I lose
10:38I lose
10:39It is what it is
10:40But I'm not gonna
10:41Fucking hate on it
10:42Like if I lose
10:43I lose
10:43But I'm not gonna be like
10:45Oh that don't mean something
10:46It do mean something
10:47It do mean something
10:49That's why y'all chase it
10:50Yeah
10:50The fuck
10:52It do mean something
10:53Stop playing
10:53Link's
10:54What I love
11:01That you said
11:02Earlier in the interview
11:02About this new album
11:04You said
11:05You find yourself
11:06Trying different stuff
11:07Trying new flows
11:08Different writing schemes
11:10Talk about that
11:11I mean
11:13It's not
11:13It's not even about
11:15Trying different schemes
11:17Trying different flows
11:18It's even
11:19It's even like
11:20Even perfecting
11:21The way I talk
11:22Like I grew up
11:23In a home
11:24With different accents
11:25I grew up in a home
11:26With different accents
11:27My accent is
11:28My accent is so strong
11:29That people think
11:30That Spanish is my first language
11:31And it's not
11:31Like I learned how to speak
11:32English first
11:33You know what I'm saying
11:34Like I learned how to speak
11:35English first
11:36Before anything
11:37That's how strong
11:38Is my accent
11:39I try to learn new words
11:41I try to learn
11:42How to perfect
11:44The words that I'm saying
11:45How to pronunciate things
11:46Better
11:47I try not to
11:49Like it's like
11:50Oh I'm just gonna make a song
11:51No
11:52I put thought
11:53I put thought
11:55In every line
11:55This line is corny
11:56This line
11:58Would a girl put this
11:59As a caption
12:00I take time
12:01With everything
12:02Whether I'm doing it
12:03By myself
12:03Whether I'm collaborating
12:05Whether everything
12:06I put time
12:08And I put love
12:09Into my craft
12:10And that's why
12:11Sometimes people be like
12:12Oh she got comfortable
12:14She got comfortable
12:15She make money
12:16If it's for money
12:18I will then put out albums
12:21And make Atlanta
12:21Give me another record deal
12:23If I put out all my albums
12:25Cause imagine if I give them
12:26All the albums
12:27That they want
12:27They'll probably give me
12:28A hundred million dollar bag
12:30But I'm not
12:31I don't rush it
12:32Because it's like
12:33I have to
12:34I have to make greatness
12:36Like when I hear this album
12:37And I'm pretty sure
12:38I feel like I'm there already
12:39I feel like when they hear this album
12:41People are gonna be like
12:42The growth
12:42The talk
12:45The lines
12:47The passion
12:48And you know what
12:51Maybe it's God
12:51Sometimes
12:52Maybe it's God
12:53Because
12:54I'm going through
12:57So many different changes
12:59In my life
12:59That I wasn't talking about
13:02Before
13:03And it's like
13:04Now
13:04It's like
13:05I have to see all those changes
13:07And all those changes
13:08I have to put it in my music
13:10Y'all have to hear
13:11I have to go through
13:12All that pain
13:13So y'all can hear
13:13What does
13:22Success
13:23Look like for
13:25Am I as a drama
13:26Is it
13:26A number one
13:28Is it a Grammy
13:28Or is it just
13:29The wind of
13:30Knowing that
13:31I delivered the album
13:32To be honest with you
13:34Times have changed
13:36So I feel like
13:37Success for me
13:39Will be
13:40People saying
13:40Like she put out
13:41A great album
13:43Like that was a
13:44Good album
13:46Like
13:47That would be
13:48Like
13:48Success for me
13:49Will be like
13:50If I go to
13:50If
13:5112 a.m. hit
13:52At 3 a.m.
13:54People are talking about
13:54The album
13:55They'll be like
13:55Yo that shit
13:56Is fire
13:57The next day
13:58That shit
13:59Is fire
13:59Like
14:00That's gonna be
14:02Like a success
14:03For me
14:03Because
14:03People
14:04Can't wait
14:05To downplay
14:06Because it's like
14:08I understand
14:08When fans
14:09Keep asking
14:10For something
14:10But when
14:11Haters
14:11When somebody
14:12That I know
14:13Don't like me
14:13Keep asking
14:14For it
14:14It's like
14:15Why you really
14:16Want to hear it
14:17Because you
14:17Want to say
14:18Something negative
14:19I want even
14:19The
14:20The person
14:21That don't like
14:22Me
14:22Be like
14:22Yo
14:22That shit
14:23Is fire
14:23And it's like
14:24Yeah
14:24Eat your
14:25Fucking fruits
14:26Nigga
14:26So
14:31I know
14:32You put out
14:33The explanation
14:34About
14:36Why up
14:37And up
14:37But for those
14:38Who missed it
14:39Ultimately
14:39What made you decide
14:41To put those
14:41Records
14:42On the album
14:43Because
14:44My fans
14:44Answer it
14:45My fans
14:46Always be like
14:47Bitch you better
14:47Not
14:48Every single day
14:49Not every single day
14:51But like
14:51My fans
14:51Do not
14:52Stop
14:53Reminded me
14:54Of the fact
14:57That I did not
14:58Submit WAP
14:59For the Grammys
15:00So it's like
15:01I'm not gonna
15:03Not do something
15:04That
15:05Like
15:05I'm not gonna
15:06Always submit to them
15:07But it's like
15:08Why not put it
15:09And then
15:09On top of that
15:10People
15:11People are crying
15:12About it
15:12Like oh
15:12It's for numbers
15:13And stuff like that
15:14Those two records
15:15Are not gonna
15:15Come for the first
15:16Week numbers
15:17Which everybody
15:17Cares about
15:18So it's like
15:19What
15:19What was the issue
15:21And at the end
15:22Of the day
15:22Well so what
15:23Y'all gonna get
15:2321 new songs
15:25Those songs
15:26Are gonna be at the end
15:27Why
15:27What you crying for
15:28I'm putting it
15:30My fans
15:31Asked for it
15:32I'm tired
15:33I'm tired
15:33Of
15:34Of
15:34Of
15:35Think about
15:36What the haters
15:37Want
15:38Or what the haters
15:39Wouldn't want
15:39I gotta think about
15:40What the people
15:41That actually love me
15:42And buying my shit
15:43And buy it
15:44Because they love it
15:45Want
15:45And that's what
15:46The fuck they want
15:46That's what the fuck
15:47They gonna get
15:47Yeah
15:48Amen
15:48Talk about
15:51The relationship
15:52That you have
15:52With your fans
15:53And how that's
15:54Been able to
15:55Keep you motivated
15:56Well
15:59Me and my fans
16:00We have like
16:01Really weird relationship
16:02But it's like
16:02I love them
16:03But just like
16:04You love your family
16:05Just like you love
16:05Your friends
16:06You are gonna get
16:06Into arguments
16:07With them
16:07Because sometimes
16:08It can be a little
16:09Bit annoying
16:09So it's just like
16:11Now y'all doing
16:13Too much
16:13But I really
16:14Really really
16:15Love them
16:15And it's like
16:16Sometimes
16:17They could be
16:18A little
16:19Like they could be
16:19Like very
16:20Therapeutic
16:21And then it's like
16:22It's so weird
16:23Because I have
16:23Somebody new
16:24In my life
16:25And explaining
16:26That type of
16:27Relationship
16:28That I have
16:28With my fans
16:29To them
16:30Is like
16:30This might be
16:32Weird
16:32But like
16:33Me and my fans
16:34We just
16:34Like
16:36They just
16:36Like they know me
16:39And I know them
16:40And like
16:41Like their approval
16:42I mean
16:44I don't
16:44I don't go
16:45By approval
16:46By people
16:46But I
16:47Do
16:47Take my fans
16:49Approval
16:50In certain things
16:51Like in
16:52Consideration
16:53For real
16:54And it's kind of
16:54Weird
16:55Like if they
16:57Don't like
16:58Something
16:58Or if they
17:00Don't like
17:00Somebody
17:01It's like
17:02I want them
17:02To like them
17:03And it's like
17:04Why do I care
17:05If they like
17:06They don't really
17:06Know me like that
17:07But it's like
17:07They kind of
17:07Do so
17:08It's like
17:08I don't know
17:10Why do I want
17:11My fans approval
17:12This my fans
17:13This my fans
17:14But that's because
17:15They care about you a lot
17:16They care about me a lot
17:17They care about me a lot
17:18So it's like
17:19I hate saying the word
17:22I had the privilege
17:24Of seeing you perform
17:26At the BET experience
17:27And fire show
17:30And I feel like
17:31For some cast
17:31Who may have not
17:32Seen you perform
17:33It's like a glimpse
17:34Of what a
17:35Cardi B tour
17:36Would look like
17:37What would
17:38A full-fledged
17:39Cardi B tour
17:40Look like
17:41Or is going to
17:42Look like
17:43You know what
17:44I feel like
17:46I know I'm
17:48A good performer
17:49I mean
17:49I was a stripper
17:50But I feel like
17:53My tour
17:54My personal tour
17:55Is not going to be
17:57Like nothing
17:58And I could promise that
18:00I could promise that
18:01I could put that
18:01It's not going to be
18:03Like
18:04Any of the performances
18:06That I ever have
18:07From the
18:07From the aesthetic
18:08From the look
18:09Even from the way
18:10I perform
18:11Because
18:11Even when I
18:12Even when I rehearse
18:13For a show
18:15I rehearse for like
18:16A week
18:16Maybe two weeks
18:17But I'm going to be
18:18Rehearsing for a month
18:19And I'm going to be
18:21Doing things that I don't do
18:21Like workout
18:22And stuff like that
18:23Because I want to be
18:24The best
18:24I feel like I have been
18:26Going to so many
18:27Different tours
18:27I went to the
18:28The Madonna show
18:30I went to the
18:30Beyonce show
18:31And it's just like
18:32Well I can't perform
18:34Like Beyonce
18:34And stuff like that
18:35But it's like
18:36You can't half-ass
18:37Nothing
18:38You know Beyonce
18:38Don't drink water
18:39I saw her at Coachella
18:44She did not take one sip
18:45Yeah but I got asthma
18:47My fans know
18:48I got asthma
18:49They know I got
18:50They know I got to
18:51Take a water break
18:52They know that
18:54But I'm
18:55Going to give it
18:57My all
18:59I wonder
19:06With everything
19:07That you accomplished
19:08The tour
19:09Is going to be
19:10On the way
19:11The Super Bowl
19:13Yeah
19:14Have the thought
19:15Of doing a half-time show
19:16Crossed your mind
19:17Of course
19:18Definitely
19:20And
19:22I am glad
19:23I'm really glad
19:24That it's like
19:25You know like
19:25I feel like
19:27What year I got asked
19:28To do the Super Bowl
19:29I'm not sure
19:30If it was 2019
19:312018
19:31And I
19:33Deny
19:35But I'm glad
19:36I feel like
19:38Soon
19:39If I get to do it
19:41I feel like
19:41I'm going to have
19:41More hits
19:42And I feel like
19:43I'm going to be
19:43More experienced
19:44And
19:46Hey
19:48I know
19:48I'm going to eat that up
19:49Yeah
19:50I'm going to eat it up
19:51I can't wait
19:52To see that
19:53I want to pivot
19:54Into motherhood
19:56Mother of three
19:58Yeah
19:58How has
19:59Motherhood
20:00Shaped you
20:01Creatively
20:02And personally
20:03These last few years
20:04I would just say
20:05It has just
20:06Turned me into
20:08A real woman
20:10I was like
20:11What makes a woman
20:12What makes a woman
20:13What makes a woman
20:14Like her body
20:15Or
20:16Cooking
20:17Or anything
20:18It's just
20:19Actually matureness
20:20And like thinking
20:21If I didn't have kids
20:22I wouldn't
20:23I wouldn't
20:24I wouldn't
20:24Think too much
20:25I wouldn't
20:26Think too much
20:26I wouldn't
20:27Sacrifice too much
20:28Like
20:28I just said this
20:29To somebody
20:29Like it's like
20:30This summer
20:30I haven't even
20:31Put my feet
20:31In a pool
20:32And
20:34I do
20:36Everything for my kids
20:38I'm the only
20:38Provider for my kids
20:39And you know what
20:40Ain't no complaining
20:41About it
20:41Like it's like
20:42I lay on that bed
20:43I made that bed
20:43And I love them
20:44And they just bring me
20:45So much
20:46So much happiness
20:47I don't only
20:49Just want
20:50To do
20:52Everything
20:53Great
20:54Because I want
20:55My kids to have
20:56The best life
20:57And have the
20:58Nicest rooms
20:59And just
21:01Thing
21:01To this day
21:03Like my mom
21:04She used to be
21:05A freaking cashier
21:06But she would work
21:07Every single day
21:09And then to this day
21:10I still talk about
21:11How hard my mom worked
21:13My dad worked hard
21:13But I still talk
21:15To this day
21:15Like how hard
21:16My mom worked
21:17And I really want
21:17My kids to
21:18Like be able to say that
21:19No matter what age
21:20Like it's like
21:21I saw my mom work hard
21:23Like I had a very
21:24Rough childhood
21:25But I could always say
21:26Like but my mom
21:26Make sure
21:27We ain't went to
21:28No shelter
21:29And it's like
21:30I want my kids
21:31To be like
21:31My mom make sure
21:33I had everything
21:34I ever wanted
21:35My mom
21:35My mom
21:35My mom
21:36And they will say that
21:37If you're a great mom
21:38Your kids will say that
21:39No matter what age
21:41They are
21:41No matter what
21:41Conversation they're in
21:42They're gonna say it
21:43I remember when
21:44My mom did this
21:45I remember when
21:45My mom did that
21:46So it's just like
21:47That means something
21:48To me
21:48Like a lot
21:49It means almost
21:50Practically everything
21:51To me
21:52Like word is bond
21:54Facts
21:55Yeah
21:56That's my
21:57That's my New York
21:57Same
21:58My New York
21:59Same
21:59Going out
22:00Was it tough
22:02Was it tough for you
22:02To date again
22:03And then
22:04Date publicly
22:05Knowing like
22:06The spotlight
22:07That comes with it
22:08It was very tough
22:10But
22:10You know what
22:12It is what it is
22:13It's tough hiding
22:14Yeah
22:15So it's like
22:16It's just tough dating
22:19It's definitely tough dating
22:20In your 30s too
22:22So
22:23But
22:24I'm happy
22:26I like them
22:27I love them
22:27I was never
22:28I never really been
22:29A dating person
22:30Right
22:30I've always been
22:31In long relationships
22:32Since I was like
22:3321
22:34So
22:35So with
22:37With
22:38Stephon
22:38How has he
22:41Inspired you
22:42Creatively or personally
22:44I don't see y'all
22:44In the gym
22:45You talk about
22:46You don't do the gym
22:46I see you in the gym now
22:48So
22:48Well
22:52Personally
22:52I mean creatively
22:53It's a little different
22:54Because we do different jobs
22:56But personally
22:58It's like
22:59I will never complain
23:00About
23:01My job
23:02I will never complain
23:04About lack of sleep
23:05I will never
23:07Never
23:07Never
23:08Never
23:08Complain
23:08And
23:09I'm not gonna lie to you
23:12I'm not one of those people
23:13That like
23:14I don't really have
23:15A sleep schedule
23:16I don't really have
23:17Like a
23:18I don't
23:19I don't even
23:19I don't even like to
23:20Like map out my day
23:21Sometimes
23:22I don't even like to
23:22Look at my schedule
23:23Of the month
23:24I just be like
23:24What we doing tomorrow
23:26Alright we gonna do it
23:27What we doing this week
23:28Cause it just overwhelmed me
23:30So
23:30One thing that
23:31I have been learning
23:33Is like to be more organized
23:34Not complain
23:36Because he has to do
23:37Two different things
23:38He has to learn his book
23:39So it's like
23:40You have
23:40Not only do you have to study
23:41You also have to get physical
23:42And you have to be in bed
23:44At a certain time
23:45You're literally in the military
23:46You like really work hard
23:48Like it's like
23:49I work hard
23:51But you know what I'm saying
23:52I can take a little break
23:53I can lay back
23:54You know what I'm saying
23:54I don't really gotta
23:55Runny runny runny
23:56But
23:56Very inspirational
23:58To see how hard
23:59Somebody work
24:00It's just like
24:01Wow
24:01You should be proud of yourself
24:03You've obviously
24:11Been a force in
24:12Not just music
24:13But fashion
24:14Beauty
24:15Branding
24:16Yeah
24:16How intentional
24:18Have you been with that
24:20Post invasion
24:21Well fashion
24:22Is something that I really love
24:24Yeah
24:24I love clothes
24:25I love style
24:27I like putting things together well
24:29You know I have an amazing team
24:31And
24:32I don't know
24:34We almost get a thrill
24:36You can go to fashion week
24:37Because you get invited
24:38Yeah
24:39But
24:41It's really a sport to us
24:44It's really something
24:44That we really really love
24:46Really enjoy to do
24:48And
24:49Even when it gets intense
24:51Like I feel like
24:52This fashion week
24:52They just passed
24:53It was so intense
24:54We was always arguing
24:55There was tears shed
24:57And everything
24:57But
24:58We love those end results
25:01So much
25:02That it's like
25:03This is why we do it
25:04All the time
25:05All the time
25:07This is
25:07Like it's like
25:09The lack of sleep
25:11The disagreements
25:14Is like
25:14At the end of results
25:16I look like
25:17A doll
25:18And people say it
25:20And I look amazing
25:20And it's like
25:21This is why we do it all the time
25:23Because it's like
25:24We love to see our work
25:26And we love to
25:26And they love to see it on me
25:28And it's like
25:29So
25:30That's something that
25:31We love to do
25:33When it comes to branding
25:35If you're gonna put something out
25:37Like a product
25:39It has to be the best
25:41There's no point
25:42Of putting something out
25:43That people are just
25:44Not gonna like
25:45Like it's like
25:45You could always do something
25:46For money
25:47Like it's like
25:47You're always gonna make money
25:48If you have 300
25:50200 million people
25:51Following you
25:51You're gonna make money
25:52But it's like
25:53What happens when
25:54They don't come back
25:55That's a terrible feeling
25:56Like imagine
25:57Somebody fucking you
25:58For the first day
25:59And it's like
25:59They fucked you
26:01But
26:02It's not the best pussy
26:03They ever had
26:04You wanna
26:05You wanna
26:05You want people
26:06To say that
26:07That was the best pussy
26:08They ever had
26:09Like
26:12You don't want to
26:13Just give people
26:14Drunk pussy
26:15Drunk pussy is good
26:16But what happens
26:17When you're not drunk
26:18Right
26:18It's not good
26:20I want it to be good
26:22The third
26:23Fourth
26:24Fifth time
26:24You use it
26:25Not the first
26:25Not the one time
26:27Then the second time
26:28You come around
26:28It's like
26:28This shit is trash
26:30It's trash
26:31Your pussy's trash
26:32Your product is trash
26:34I bought it
26:35The second time
26:35It was trash
26:36I don't want that
26:37I want it good
26:38All the time
26:39Consistency
26:40Consistency
26:40Boom
26:41Yeah
26:41And I make sure
26:43That's why certain things
26:44That people ask me for
26:45I'll be like
26:46Trust me
26:47It's coming
26:47It's just
26:48You will think
26:49It's not coming
26:49Because I'm just
26:50Laying in the bed
26:51Playing with myself
26:52All day
26:52But no
26:53I'm just really
26:54Trying to make sure
26:54It's good
26:55Cause y'all
26:56Gonna talk about it
26:57And it's like
26:58It's just a bad feeling
26:59When people just
26:59Don't like your stuff
27:00Like it's like
27:01It's just a bad feeling
27:02It's a bad feeling
27:03I hate feeling
27:03That like that
27:04I hate when people
27:05Don't come back
27:06I like to thank you
27:07Come again
27:08Yeah
27:08That's another New York slang
27:10You've inspired
27:15A whole wave
27:17Of female rappers
27:18This new generation
27:20Do you consider yourself
27:21To be a mentor
27:22And is that like
27:22A role you've embraced
27:23I do consider myself
27:26A mentor
27:26But it's like
27:27Have you ever read
27:28The book
27:28The Coldest Winter Ever
27:29Give me the cliff notes
27:34The spark notes real quick
27:35Alright so like
27:35At the end of the book
27:36Right
27:37This is so weird
27:38The main character
27:39Winter
27:39She was in jail
27:41Cause she cut a bitch
27:42Or some shit like that
27:43Then they let her out
27:45To her mom funeral
27:47And she saw her sister
27:50Going in her same footsteps
27:53So she wanted to give
27:55Her sister
27:56Advice
27:57And before she gave her
27:58Advice
27:59She was like
27:59You know what
28:00Fuck it
28:01Let her go through
28:02What I went through
28:03Let her learn on her own
28:04Sometimes you gotta let
28:05Bitches learn on their own
28:06And I have to
28:07Because there was
28:08There's so many bitches
28:09That I have sat down
28:10Giving advice
28:11From the heart
28:12I only give you advice
28:13From the heart
28:14Or I only give you advice
28:15If I feel bad for you
28:16Like if I see
28:16If I see people
28:17Bullying you
28:18Because of
28:19Whatever the fuck
28:20I'm going to think
28:21I'm going to go in
28:22Your DM
28:22And I'm going to
28:23Give you advice
28:23But it's like
28:24Sometimes I really gotta
28:25Like hold myself
28:27And be like
28:27No bitch
28:28Don't do it
28:28Because these bitches
28:29Have done turned
28:29They back on me
28:30These bitches
28:31That done fucked my man
28:32These bitches
28:33That done got caught
28:34Talking about me
28:35And fucking somebody
28:35Tell me about it
28:36Like it's like
28:36Sometimes you really
28:38Gotta like be like
28:39Yo
28:39Keep your heart
28:41Three stacks
28:41Keep your motherfucking heart
28:44Cause these bitches
28:45Ain't for you
28:46Bitches ain't for you
28:48Politics
28:54Is that something
28:56One
28:57That you're still
28:58Very much involved
28:59In and something
29:00You hope to pass down
29:01To your kids
29:02When they get older
29:02Yes please
29:04I hope
29:04I hope they take
29:05That trait from me
29:06Like it's like
29:06You always have to
29:08Be aware
29:08What's happening
29:09To the world
29:09And what used to
29:10Happen
29:11Because things
29:12Actually do
29:12Repeat themselves
29:13All the time
29:15I know for a fact
29:16That people watch
29:17My stuff
29:18I know it
29:19I know the White House
29:20Watches my stuff
29:20You have a platform
29:21Yes I have a big platform
29:22So it's like
29:23I know they watch it
29:24And I know
29:25That they
29:26Listen to what I say
29:28I might not say it
29:29The prettiest way
29:30You know what I'm saying
29:31But I know they listen
29:32To what I say
29:32There's a president
29:34That he knows
29:35That I'm
29:36Never supporting him
29:37And stuff like that
29:38And it's like
29:39I be feeling like
29:39It's like
29:39If I say something
29:41He ain't gonna care
29:43He ain't gonna hear it
29:43I try to give people
29:45A warning
29:45And it's like
29:46It is what it is
29:47Like it's like
29:47What can I do
29:49What can I say
29:50Like it's like
29:50This is what
29:51There was
29:53There was a time
29:53That was like
29:54I ain't voting for nobody
29:55Everybody doing shady shit
29:56And I was like
29:57You know what
29:58I have to pick
29:59Kind of the lesser
30:00No it's not even
30:01I have to pick
30:02The lesser evil
30:03I can't
30:04And
30:05People thought it was funny
30:07People made fun of my accent
30:08People made fun of my speech
30:10People forgot
30:10People did this and that
30:12And it's like
30:12Alright
30:13Y'all gonna see what's funny
30:14Shit ain't funny right now
30:16Isn't it
30:16Shit is really tough out here
30:18It's really tough out here
30:20Like shit is really rough out here
30:21For everybody
30:22You know what I'm saying
30:24I try to warn y'all
30:25Then it's like
30:26Oh why y'all not speaking up
30:27I tried to speak up
30:29Last year
30:29Like I was trying to tell y'all
30:30I said it in my speech
30:32Like I said it
30:32Everything that's gonna
30:34That happened
30:34I said it in my speech
30:36And it's like
30:36Nobody's speaking up for this
30:38What can you do
30:39What can I do
30:40The nigga
30:41Trump don't fuck with me
30:42So it's like
30:43What can I do
30:44To help y'all
30:45I can't do nothing
30:46My hands is in my ass
30:47Deep in it
30:48So
30:49But all I'm gonna say is
30:53America
30:55Is in a very
30:57Bad
30:58Place
30:59Party last question
31:06Yeah
31:07If you could pick
31:09One word
31:10To title this chapter
31:11In your life
31:12What word would that be
31:14And why
31:14I just felt like
31:19I was just
31:19It just really felt
31:21Like a reset
31:22So that's how
31:24I feel like
31:24I feel like
31:25It's a reset
31:26Maybe that's the word
31:28I was gonna say
31:28Reset sounds like the word
31:29Yeah
31:30Maybe reset sound like
31:31The word
31:31Because it's like
31:32I'm resetting again
31:34In my
31:35In my career
31:36I guess
31:37Like you know what I'm saying
31:37I took a break
31:38And now I'm
31:39I'm about to go back again
31:40And I'm about to be heavy on
31:42On tour
31:43Heavy on the road
31:44And I haven't been heavy on the road
31:45For a very long time
31:46So that's a reset there
31:48And then there's like
31:49A reset on my
31:50On my personal life
31:52Like
31:53When I was heavy
31:55The last time I was
31:56Really heavy on the road
31:57I had one kid
31:58And I have three kids
32:00I was married
32:01Now I'm getting a divorce
32:03I'm
32:04I'm dating
32:04I'm just
32:06It's a reset on
32:07Everything
32:08Like
32:09It's a little like
32:10I don't know
32:13Sometimes I feel like
32:13I'm
32:14I'm 20 again
32:15It's like
32:15Why do I feel like
32:16I shouldn't be feeling like
32:17I'm 20 again
32:17I should be feeling like
32:18I'm in my 30s
32:19And I'm more settled
32:20And it's like
32:21I don't feel as settled
32:23I feel like
32:23I'm redoing things
32:26Relearning things again
32:28In every aspect in life
32:31Career
32:32And personal
32:33So I just feel like
32:35It's a
32:35I guess we will say
32:37A reset
32:37A reset
32:38Well you're doing a great job
32:39Yeah
32:40Oh yeah I knew
32:46This is a great
32:48You're doing interviews
32:49Really
32:50You're doing interviews
32:51Really really good
32:52Thank you so much
32:53I could talk to you
32:54All day
32:55I appreciate you
32:57Thank you Cardi
32:58And we're good to go
32:59That's a wrap
32:59And we're good to go
33:01And we're good to go
33:02And we're good to go
33:03And we're good to go
33:04And we're good to go
33:05And we're good to go
33:06And we're good to go
33:07And we're good to go
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33:09And we're good to go
33:10And we're good to go
33:11And we're good to go
33:12And we're good to go
33:13And we're good to go
33:14And we're good to go
33:15And we're good to go
33:16And we're good to go
33:17And we're good to go
33:18And we're good to go
33:19And we're good to go
33:20And we're good to go
33:21And we're good to go
33:22And we're good to go
33:23And we're good to go
33:24And we're good to go
33:25And we're good to go
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