From Multiverse Saga struggles to Robert Downey Jr.'s return as Doctor Doom - join us as we analyze whether "Avengers: Doomsday" can resurrect the struggling MCU! We'll explore what we know about this massive crossover event, assess the current state of Marvel's cinematic universe, and determine if one movie can truly save a franchise that's been spinning its wheels since Endgame.
00:00So let's get to it, bring your imagination, your love, and your passion.
00:04Welcome to WatchMojo, and today we're talking about whether Avengers Doomsday can finally get the MCU back on track.
00:11We'll also be discussing possible plot details, which means we'll be rolling out a warning for potential spoilers.
00:17This is the fight of our lives.
00:20What actually is Avengers Doomsday?
00:22Before contemplating whether this movie could be the MCU's saving grace, we should talk about what it's all about.
00:28Through a very special story, Joe and I have come to potentially see a road forward with you all.
00:36The reality is, we don't know all that much.
00:39The movie is slated for a 2026 release, and is currently in the midst of production.
00:43But any major news regarding scripts or story is incredibly scarce.
00:48Fortunately for us, we can make some educated guesses.
00:52We know for a fact that Robert Downey Jr. is making his long-awaited return to the MCU.
00:56It could be the most important character in all of the Marvel Universe.
01:13Only this time, he'll be Doctor Doom.
01:18So it's a safe bet he'll be a looming presence throughout the movie.
01:21He's probably the movie's villain, or at least the shadowy figure pulling the strings.
01:26This isn't just an Avengers movie either.
01:29To announce that the film was in production, Marvel released a video revealing the cast.
01:33It was star-studded to say the least, giving us clues for what's next.
01:46Actors from the Avengers, Thunderbolts, New Fantastic Four, and Fox X-Men Universe have been confirmed for Doomsday.
01:53If this is anything to go by, we can expect lots of super-powered team-ups and nostalgic cameos.
01:59Considering that the MCU's multiverse saga is nearing its end, a multiverse-heavy movie sounds fitting.
02:05We just wish the multiverse saga had been better.
02:08No turning back now.
02:11Who said anything about turning back?
02:18For all time.
02:23Always.
02:23The current state of the MCU.
02:26Look, the MCU has been an awesome game-changer that redefined what superheroes could look like in pop culture.
02:32You think you're the only superhero in the world?
02:35Mr. Stark, you've become part of a bigger universe.
02:38You just don't know it yet.
02:40But at a certain point, we have to take off the rose-tinted glasses and acknowledge the MCU not for what it was, but for what it is currently.
02:48A gigantic, multi-million dollar franchise that's just kind of been spinning its wheels ever since Endgame.
02:54I am inevitable.
02:58The truth is, the multiverse saga has been a bit rocky.
03:01Several movies and TV shows like Quantumania and Secret Invasion failed to land.
03:06Other projects fell flat, which created an era that's been unsatisfying.
03:10If you add in the consistent trend of wonky CGI, uninteresting characters, and subpar writing, then you've got one pretty concerned fanbase.
03:20Wait, so you're the one who's making all the decisions here?
03:23The multiverse should be an exciting concept, but it's been run into the ground by Marvel.
03:28What do you know about the multiverse?
03:30The multiverse.
03:32This had his theories.
03:33He believed it was real and dangerous.
03:37This could be a saga that explores incredibly interesting alternate realities, and dives into infinite possibilities with its storytelling.
03:45Instead, what we've mostly gotten are tired cameos from actors who don't add anything to the story besides nostalgia.
03:51I'm lame compared...
03:52Like, I fought a Russian guy in a...
03:54Like, a rhinoceros machine.
03:56Can we rewind it back to the I'm lame part?
03:58Because you are not...
03:59We all loved the three Spider-Men in No Way Home, but how many more times can they play that card?
04:05And why did What If, the show that was supposed to explore the vast multiverse, basically just turn into the adventures of Captain Carter and Friends?
04:13Thanks, Cap.
04:14What are new friends for?
04:15This whole saga lacks direction.
04:17Connectivity is super important for a shared universe.
04:20Let's just take the L and move on!
04:23It's kind of the whole reason for doing one.
04:26Well, that and to make money.
04:27Sadly, several current projects feel completely isolated from one another.
04:31It's like the MCU doesn't know who their big bad is.
04:34Granted, some of these problems are not entirely Marvel's fault.
04:37How many did you call?
04:40All of us.
04:42If you remember, Kang the Conqueror was being set up to be the big bad until the actor portraying him, Jonathan Majors, landed in some controversy.
04:51And Marvel had to pivot, which they did by getting Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom.
04:55With Doom now set as the new big bad, Doomsday seems like it's got a lot going for it.
05:00Right?
05:00What can I tell you?
05:02I like playing complicated characters.
05:05Pros and cons for the movie.
05:07Again, we don't know much about the plot yet, but we can make some solid assumptions.
05:11Based on the recent casting announcements, this movie will have a huge slew of people.
05:16Is that everyone?
05:17What, you want it more?
05:18We're talking characters from The Avengers, Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, and X-Men.
05:23Maybe our heroes will learn how to work together in this movie.
05:26Or maybe they'll butt heads.
05:28Excuse me, I'm Eric Lentra.
05:30James Xavier.
05:31Go f*** yourself.
05:32If that's the case, this movie could take a page or two from the comic Avengers vs. X-Men.
05:37That storyline saw those two teams clashing in some big ways.
05:40Regardless of what happens, though, the stacked roster alone should be more than enough to get people talking.
05:45But it's better this way, you have to trust me.
05:48But what about downsides?
05:49Well, ironically, that gigantic cast of characters could also be a negative.
05:54Always a way out.
05:56You know, you may not be a threat, but you better stop pretending to be a hero.
06:00Seeing the X-Men from the past interacting with the Avengers of today will definitely lead to some cool moments,
06:06but the movie could easily get overcrowded very fast.
06:09This is a blockbuster basically guaranteed to have an influx of fanservice-y moments and cameos.
06:14Okay, look at you all.
06:18You must be the others.
06:20Terrific.
06:20While that might not necessarily kill a film, it could be a huge derailment to the story.
06:25The large cast also means it'll be an all-out war for precious screen time.
06:30No matter how you want to slice it, some characters will be lost in the shuffle with the scale this movie will have.
06:35Because of that, Doomsday could end up being the cinematic equivalent of just smashing a bunch of action figures into each other and seeing what happens.
06:42Do you really want to punch your way out of this one?
06:45Will Doomsday make money?
06:47If Doomsday soars at the box office, it'll be a clear sign that Marvel is back.
06:52But can this project reach the financial heights of its predecessors?
06:55The price tag is on the expensive side, to put it lightly.
07:08For pre-production specifically, reports indicated that the amount of money spent by Marvel Studios for Doomsday was roughly $8 million.
07:15It's because he's already made up his mind.
07:17Boy, you know me so well.
07:18That's about triple what they poured into the pre-production costs for Quantumania.
07:22Making Infinity War and Endgame cost the studio about a billion dollars.
07:26If Doomsday is expected to top those juggernauts, it's gonna cost Marvel a pretty penny.
07:31Good luck.
07:33That being said, we shouldn't be too gloom and doom, pun intended.
07:37Endgame shattered box office records and became a cultural phenomenon.
07:41A long way from Budapest.
07:42While we don't know if Doomsday can do the same, it's almost a guarantee that this movie will make a large profit.
07:48Come on, this is still an Avengers movie.
07:51That brand has some serious staying power with the general audience.
07:54However, commercial success is not gonna be the only important factor.
07:58Yeah.
07:59Can Marvel successfully follow Doomsday up if it's good?
08:02So, what if Avengers Doomsday becomes a roaring success?
08:06What if it's an absolute triumph at the box office and a cinematic masterpiece praised by fans and critics alike?
08:12If it's all the same to you, I'll have that drink now.
08:20Obviously, that's a great hypothetical, but they still need to follow that movie up with Secret Wars.
08:25It'd be really easy to shout from the rooftops that the MCU is back if Doomsday is a hit.
08:30The past has shown us the problem with jumping the gun.
08:33Deadpool and Wolverine was a blockbuster that made over a billion dollars
08:36and cemented itself as the highest grossing R-rated movie ever.
08:39I am a messiah.
08:42I am a Marvel Jesus.
08:48It stood out as a shining light in the saga.
08:51Because of that, many fans believed the MCU was back to its former glory.
08:55Heck, even the Agatha show that came out a few months later was a solid series.
08:59Then the MCU's next cinematic outing, Captain America Brave New World, was a bit of a dud.
09:04It wasn't an atrocity, but it definitely wasn't a home run with the fans.
09:08That disappointment kind of reignited everybody's fears.
09:16Even if we get a great Avengers movie out of this, Marvel needs to make sure future projects can sustain a certain level of quality.
09:23The point we're trying to make is that it's hard to hinge the entire success of a franchise of this size on just one movie.
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09:48Final verdict.
09:49Is Avengers Doomsday going to be what brings life back to the MCU?
09:53Well, probably not.
09:55But wait, don't bring out your pitchforks just yet.
09:57This is going to end well.
09:58The reason we say probably not is because there'll need to be more than just Doomsday to get the MCU back up and running.
10:04Remember, this is essentially part one of a two-parter.
10:08That means that Avengers Secret Wars also has to completely knock it out of the park.
10:12The multiverse saga needs to conclude on a high note.
10:16Really?
10:17No.
10:18Oh, whatever.
10:19Then, if we're being honest, Marvel needs to finally move on from the multiverse.
10:23Getting fans to be excited about the MCU again isn't necessarily hard, but keeping that excitement going is what's tricky.
10:30To sustain the hype, they have to go back to the basics.
10:33They have to tell interesting stories with something to say rather than chase fads.
10:38In short, Doomsday can be what jolts the MCU out of its current coma.
10:42Yet subsequent projects need to be consistent hits to prevent the franchise from flatlining again.
10:48Do you think Doomsday can save the MCU?
10:58Let us know in the comments.
10:59The idea was to bring together a group of remarkable people, see if they could become something more.
11:09See if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.
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