00:00Do you know Jean-Luc Brunel?
00:04Yes. How do you know him?
00:06I met him when I told you I was working for the European for my dad.
00:12So back in the early 90s?
00:15Yeah. And I was running a magazine.
00:20One of the things in the magazine is fashion.
00:23And so I was going to some fashion shows
00:28and I was looking for fashion sponsorship.
00:31And in fact, when I came to America,
00:33one of the first sponsors that I got for it was Ron Pelman at Revlon,
00:39who was great.
00:41And I met Jean-Luc through just in Paris like that,
00:48but socially not.
00:52Did Mr. Epstein know him as well?
00:54Did you later learn whether they knew each other?
00:56I'm not sure I, I don't, he would have,
00:59Epstein had his own fashion situation,
01:01so he would have, I don't, he didn't meet Jean-Luc through me.
01:05Did you ever observe them together over the years?
01:07Absolutely. Yeah, I saw them many times together.
01:09Did he visit the island?
01:14Yes.
01:15Did he go to Palm Beach House?
01:17Yeah, he went everywhere.
01:18Yeah, he went everywhere.
01:19I saw him in every place.
01:20Did, do you ever observe him getting a massage?
01:25Or do you ever know whether he got a massage
01:27and maybe you didn't observe it personally?
01:30No.
01:31You don't remember?
01:32I don't know.
01:33I mean, I don't, I never, I have no conscious memory of Jean-Luc.
01:38I would imagine that he did, but I never, I don't see it.
01:43How about Mr. Weinstein, Harvey Weinstein?
01:47What would you like to know?
01:48Do you know him?
01:49Yes.
01:50How do you know him?
01:52Like, I guess, when I say how do you know him,
01:54is the relationship you had kind of separate from Mr. Epstein,
01:58or did you guys, did you meet him through Mr. Epstein, or?
02:02Well, I wouldn't, first of all, I wouldn't say I had any type of relationship with Harvey Weinstein.
02:06Okay.
02:07In any context.
02:08Socially, I would meet him because I would go to events that Harvey would be at,
02:12and also his wife was English, like that, and Georgina.
02:16And I was, I mean, friendly also would be a big word more of acquaintance,
02:20so we would see each other and I would go to Miramax events.
02:25There was, there was a couple of people who worked for Harvey who I was friendly with,
02:29his primary producer, whose name is Meryl Poster, who I was friendly with, and, um, yeah.
02:41Do you know whether Mr. Epstein had his own relationship with Mr. Weinstein?
02:45He did.
02:46Did they, um, socialize together at the island or in Palm Beach or New Mexico?
02:52I never, I never saw Harvey at any of Epstein's houses.
02:55So socialize, I didn't know that they were friends.
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