00:00What's your answer, Mike?
00:07Yeah, you taught me everything I know.
00:11No, joke, joke.
00:14No, you've been together for 28 years.
00:17Yes, yes.
00:18And you're not talking about marriage.
00:21Oh my God.
00:22No, that's true.
00:23Ano naman?
00:24Naka white?
00:25Walking down the aisle?
00:26Not necessarily white.
00:27You can wear another color of glory.
00:30You know, this is 2025.
00:31I like my house.
00:32And he likes his house when he gives.
00:34So, it's difficult to discuss marriage
00:37because we'll have to give up one or the other.
00:39You mean you're not living together?
00:41No.
00:42You're not?
00:43No.
00:44Oh, okay.
00:45But I'm not celibate.
00:50You are not celibate.
00:51Gaano ka importante yun?
00:53Gaano ka importante ang intimacy sa inyong relasyon?
00:56Siyempre, super.
00:57But there's different levels.
00:58There's physical intimacy.
00:59Right.
01:00There is when you know a person doesn't feel well.
01:04You know, when he's feeling insecure.
01:06When she is feeling upset or not happy.
01:11Or even when you order food.
01:13You know, you kind of know what he wants to order
01:15or you want to order.
01:17I mean, there's different.
01:18I'm not only talking about physical.
01:20That's true.
01:21And that's expressed in different ways.
01:23Yeah.
01:24That's the intimacy.
01:25Physical intimacy.
01:26I know it transcends just the physical.
01:29But when you talk about the physical.
01:31Of course.
01:32You have to have physical.
01:33You have to.
01:34Yeah.
01:35I mean, he's younger.
01:37Right?
01:38Not a lot.
01:39Nine years, eight years.
01:40Yeah.
01:41But he doesn't drink.
01:42He doesn't smoke.
01:43Okay.
01:44He doesn't even swear.
01:45Yeah.
01:46He's such a nice, quiet man.
01:47Not all the time.
01:48Not all the time.
01:49So you also fight.
01:50No.
01:51You never fight.
01:52But you're an artist.
01:53He's a banker.
01:54He's very.
01:55How do you say?
01:56Mike is a very, like you say, giving.
01:59He always agrees with what you say.
02:01But that's what he wants.
02:02But he wasn't intimidated in the beginning.
02:04In the beginning.
02:05Not intimidated.
02:06Off balance more.
02:07Ah, really?
02:08Like, oh my God.
02:09So how did he make Ligaw?
02:12How did he make Ligaw?
02:14I didn't force him.
02:15But kind of welcomed him.
02:18Okay.
02:19No, I knew right away.
02:20Because you know Bong, my husband.
02:22Yes.
02:23He was cool.
02:24He was nice guy.
02:25Everything.
02:26And he was my friend.
02:27Yeah.
02:28He was your friend and everything.
02:29So when I separated from him, I thought to myself, I'm going to get the exact opposite
02:34of Bong.
02:35Ah, so it was deliberate.
02:36Deliberate.
02:37I looked at Mike one day and I said, this is the biggest nerd in Manila.
02:42I'm going to get this guy.
02:43He's very conservative, very nerdy, very everything.
02:47And really when I saw him, I said, I'll try this one.
02:51Did you make him wild?
02:52Um, maybe.
02:53No, no, no.
02:54Of course.
02:55But I still want to see him drink, which he never did.
03:02When he first went out with me and I ordered a margarita, he also ordered margarita.
03:07I said, ah, okay.
03:08Okay.
03:09Okay.
03:10He didn't touch it.
03:11So I drank it.
03:12Okay.
03:13Then afterwards, he said, about 12 o'clock, one o'clock.
03:17And then he said, ah, you want to go out for another drink after dinner?
03:20I said, yeah, sure.
03:21Oh my God.
03:22No, this is going to be another bong.
03:24And then when we got there, one o'clock, I ordered a cappuccino.
03:28He also ordered a cappuccino.
03:29He also ordered a cappuccino.
03:30I said, my God.
03:31He's so cool.
03:32I mean, you know.
03:33Okay.
03:34He didn't drink it.
03:35So I drank it also.
03:36Sayang.
03:37He was faking me.
03:38He doesn't drink and he doesn't even drink coffee.
03:41No, but he was trying to please you.
03:42And that was his way.
03:43Yeah, but ordering.
03:44That was his way of winning you.
03:45Yeah.
03:46He just, by that time, he just arrived from America.
03:48He was a baby.
03:49Right.
03:50Yeah.
04:07Good luck.
04:08Bye.
04:10Bye.
04:18Bye.
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