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00:00E varm-ei conguns blazing and so on April second 2024 deputies from the Bernalhillo County Sheriff's
00:13Office in New Mexico respond to a panicked 911 call believing the caller is exaggerating the
00:19urgency of the situation they're shocked to discover that the initial incident is only
00:24the beginning and a chilling discovery is waiting for them just behind a locked door
00:29You look right across from you, there's blood up there.
00:32Oh, okay.
00:33Dude, nothing on this call makes any sense.
00:36The following is based on official police records, and the footage has never been seen before.
00:40Please note that all persons charged with a crime are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law.
00:47On the evening of April 2nd, 2024, Rhonda King calls the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office seeking aid.
00:54Hello, 911.
00:54All the dispatcher can hear is mumbled arguing on the other end.
01:12After a few minutes, Rhonda responds.
01:24It's on the south side of Paseo del Norte.
01:30Please, it's an emergency.
01:31Okay, I need your address so I can send them.
01:33Can you get it from my phone?
01:36What's your callback number?
01:38Stop.
01:39It looks under John Colbert.
01:41Ma'am, answer my question.
01:43What is your call number?
01:44Ma'am, please, it's an emergency.
01:46Okay, listen to me and see what happens.
01:48Ma'am, their mother, he has passed away and they need some emergency assistance.
01:56They need no.
01:58And I think the person is being a danger to themselves.
02:01And I'm trying to stop them, but I can't.
02:04Rhonda identifies the other person in the home with her as 59-year-old James Colbert, her friend and ex-boyfriend.
02:11What is he doing that you keep seeing stuff?
02:13He's trying to get to the room where the company's our man and I locked the door, but yet he has the key to get to us.
02:20And we've been like the rest of the room.
02:22No, stop.
02:24Listen to her.
02:26Stop.
02:27Stop.
02:28Stop.
02:29You're my teeth.
02:30Ow.
02:31Ow.
02:32What are you doing, my teeth?
02:33Oh.
02:35I'm going to hit my head with things for a while.
02:37And then we were struggling.
02:37Eventually, the dispatcher uses Rhonda's phone in order to locate her.
02:43And as the 911 call continues, deputies from the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office urgently make their way to the residence.
02:50James, stop.
02:51Stop to here.
02:52James, we're here.
02:53Sheriff's Office.
02:55I'm down here.
03:03Sheriff's Office.
03:05I'm down here.
03:07What is it?
03:13They're down here by the door.
03:15All right, come.
03:16You come out here to us.
03:17Nobody's not armed.
03:17Nobody's armed.
03:20Nobody's armed.
03:21Oh, f***.
03:22Right here.
03:23Right here.
03:24I think he's in shock.
03:26His mother passed away.
03:27And he's the sole caregiver.
03:29I just think he's in shock.
03:31Okay.
03:32James, it's okay, man.
03:35Hey.
03:36You're going to be okay?
03:37Do you have weapons on you?
03:40No.
03:40Is it okay if I check over here?
03:41Sure.
03:42Let's go.
03:42Turn around for me.
03:43Guns are never...
03:44No, they're not.
03:46No, please stop.
03:47No, I'm not putting you in.
03:48This is just to make sure there's no weapons on you.
03:50It's all healthy.
03:50Should we hurt?
03:51Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, ma'am.
03:53I'm just going to check you right here, all right?
03:54Please don't hurt me.
03:55I'm not hurting you, James.
03:56I just want to make sure you don't have...
03:57Oh, no, these are my keys.
03:58These are the keys that I have.
04:01Yeah.
04:02All right.
04:02So, James.
04:03Uh-huh.
04:04What's...
04:05Can I talk to you outside, brother?
04:06Yes, you can.
04:06Can you do one thing, though?
04:07Yes, sir.
04:08This door cannot be locked.
04:10Can we open that door, please?
04:12What?
04:12Do we need to open it right now?
04:14Yes, because it's...
04:14The heating stuff doesn't work if it's locked.
04:17Okay.
04:17I will be sure to unlock it.
04:20I will unlock it here.
04:20Can you go back around the phone, please?
04:22I will unlock it here before we move, all right?
04:24Go ahead.
04:25As some of the deputies attempt to speak with James,
04:27a task that will prove easier said than done,
04:30another breaks off to talk with Rhonda.
04:33Can you come talk to me in here?
04:37James and I have been friends for 40 years.
04:39Uh-huh.
04:39Good friends.
04:40His mom has been ill.
04:41He has had Parkinson's.
04:42He's taken care of his work.
04:45And...
04:45This is your way to 20.
04:46We're inside making contact now.
04:50And...
04:51I would just...
04:52It doesn't matter what's in there.
04:53It's fully in the apartment.
04:55Listen.
04:56Listen to me.
04:57I know...
04:58I don't know where he's going.
04:59So, we're going to take care of you.
05:02But I need you to relax and talk to me, okay?
05:04What is he doing that's making you feel like
05:06that he wants to hurt himself?
05:07Because he told me he did.
05:09Okay.
05:09What did he say exactly?
05:10He just said that there was no reason to live anymore.
05:12and that he just felt it was best just...
05:16You know...
05:19I don't know if he said specifically kill himself.
05:22I said it's just so important, I think.
05:24But he said there was no more reason for him to live.
05:27Thank you.
05:28Rhonda clarifies that the residence doesn't belong to James,
05:31but to his father, who has passed away.
05:33She also states that the reason she believes there are firearms in the house
05:36is because it had been broken into a few months earlier.
05:39And the police report James filed stated that some of the firearms were stolen.
05:44While this may at first appear to be a routine welfare check,
05:47the deputies will soon uncover that nothing is quite as it seems.
05:51And a dark secret is lurking just under the surface.
05:54So, James.
05:55Uh-huh.
05:55What's going on today, man?
05:56We got called out here because...
05:59I'm sorry to hear that there was a death in the family.
06:02Uh-huh.
06:02And that is what I understand happened today?
06:04Yesterday.
06:05Yesterday.
06:05Okay.
06:06And this has obviously been very rough for you.
06:08Absolutely.
06:09And so we were called out here because...
06:11somebody said you were maybe thinking about hurting yourself.
06:14Rhonda did.
06:15And is that a truth?
06:17Is that something you're thinking of?
06:18No.
06:19So what's going on today?
06:20Why are...
06:21What was the argument about today?
06:24Just that what's happened with my mom and that kind of stuff.
06:29Okay.
06:29So she's under the impression you're trying to grab a gun and to shoot yourself.
06:32She thinks I would have killed myself in that room.
06:34Okay.
06:35But you...
06:37Not my intent.
06:37You're not intending to do that.
06:39No.
06:39Why would she think that?
06:41She just does.
06:41I don't know why.
06:42Okay.
06:44Can we have a medical come check you out, man?
06:45Just because...
06:46Sure.
06:46I mean, you got some scrapes and things like that.
06:49360, so it's simple for FML.
06:52What is on your shirt?
06:54That's a little bit of blood.
06:55Yeah.
06:56From your lip or something.
06:57Something, yes.
06:58What happened to your lip?
06:59Just, just, just cut.
07:02Okay.
07:02Just dry.
07:03A little bit on your nose, too?
07:04The bridge of your nose?
07:04Uh-huh.
07:05Okay.
07:06With blood on his shirt and cuts to his face, it's determined that James needs medical attention.
07:11However, he has something he believes is far more urgent on his mind.
07:14But, sir, we were, had broken into, they stole music equipment, they stole all kinds of stuff out of my parents' house.
07:21I need to lock it.
07:22We're going to walk out to medical first.
07:24I want to secure the door, please.
07:25We can secure it right now.
07:26Is she, is she leaving?
07:27She can come out.
07:29I want to secure the door.
07:30Okay.
07:30Yeah, so, sorry, just, so, we were a little antsy just because we were told there was a gun involved.
07:35Okay.
07:36And our belief was...
07:38Yes, sir, I know, I patted you down.
07:39Okay, I have no gun.
07:40But our belief was that it was in the house, and that's why when we showed up, we were trying to patch you down for weapons,
07:47try to take you outside, because if there was a firearm, we don't want, we wouldn't want you to, you know, you were wrong with.
07:54Can we lock this window, please?
07:56Escorted by a few of the deputies, James is allowed to enter the residence again to turn off the lights and arm the alarm system.
08:02Already, some of the responding deputies are having doubts about the seriousness of the situation,
08:07something they may come to regret by the end of the night.
08:11I think this is what those are reacts.
08:15I'm going to be straightforward and just tell you what's going on here.
08:18So, we showed up, you were covered in sweat.
08:21Right.
08:21You have some blood on your t-shirt.
08:23Uh-huh.
08:23You told me, you said, hey, I'm not suicidal, but I'm not in a good mental space.
08:28Right.
08:28All right, and so, I would, I would like for you to just, just get checked out by these gentlemen.
08:34They're going to take your blood pressure.
08:35Okay.
08:35Because you were obviously in a highly emotional state when I came in contact with you at first, all right?
08:41The only thing is, we have to go to my other house.
08:45Okay.
08:45You don't have the key, Rhonda.
08:48Okay.
08:48Is it the one with the little puppy dog?
08:50No, it's the one that you had made, right?
08:54I don't remember which one's the word.
08:56This one.
08:57I'm sorry.
08:58Okay.
08:59Okay.
08:59Let's go this way.
09:00Are you sure?
09:00Let me just take all of them.
09:02No.
09:02Okay.
09:02Because this is the step to my other house.
09:04Okay.
09:05All right, man.
09:05Let's go this way.
09:06Okay?
09:06James gives the location of his house, but the deputies insist he gets checked out by medical
09:11personnel before he can explain why exactly he's so eager to return to the other residents.
09:17As soon as we got in, she was causing multiple rusts, then you decided to get around the
09:21corner to try to calm her again.
09:24Honestly, I think it's a bit of an overreaction.
09:25Her bath.
09:26He was, I don't know if you saw him, he was sweating, like, he was drenched in sweat.
09:32And it's like cold.
09:34So he's just absolutely drenched in sweat.
09:36He's a very calm, like extremely monotone, extremely calm.
09:41So I was like, well, why would she think you're suicidal?
09:43She's like, I don't know.
09:44He said, I don't know.
09:46My mom just passed away.
09:47I was the caretaker for my mom.
09:49With mounting apprehension about the validity of Rhonda's concerns, one of the deputies speaks
09:55with her directly.
09:56Okay.
09:57So I know my partner was talking to you, but just, if you could, just give me a brief,
10:01just a rundown of what's going on.
10:02James' mother, well, James has been basically the sole caretaker of his mother the last few
10:10years since his dad died.
10:12Okay.
10:12She has Parkinson's disease, and she's been ill, and James has been ill himself, like,
10:21medically, and I think a lot of it's, you know, was stress-related.
10:26Earlier that day, Rhonda had called and texted James multiple times without receiving an answer.
10:31I thought, well, I'll call his mom, because, you know, I'll talk to her if I don't get him
10:35or whatnot, and she didn't answer.
10:37James' mother is 83-year-old Marion Colbert.
10:41Eventually, James returned Rhonda's call and told her he was at his dad's house.
10:45So basically, we were talking, and he said his mom passed yesterday, and I said, well,
10:51we need to call 911, James.
10:52Let's go over to the house, and he was adamant, but no, we needed to come here and walk.
10:58We need to go in here, and I was afraid to let him go by himself, because I was afraid
11:02that he would go in and he might hurt himself.
11:04It was around this point that she called 911.
11:07I see you've got a little bit of, you've got a little bit of a cut on your head.
11:11Did he hit you?
11:12No.
11:12Okay.
11:13When I was trying to keep him from going into the door, the wall there.
11:17Okay.
11:17Can you move your hair a little bit?
11:19I just want to make sure.
11:19Yeah.
11:20Okay.
11:20Because we have medical here.
11:21Oh, yeah.
11:22Yeah.
11:23We're going to have medical take a look at you as well, okay?
11:26And they're trying to hold him, and he was pushing to get around me.
11:29And when I did, I hit the edge of the wall.
11:34Okay.
11:35I'm going to put some guards around there, okay?
11:37Okay.
11:38Oh, you're going to wrap it?
11:39Yeah.
11:40Are you serious?
11:41I have to stabilize that guard.
11:42Oh, no.
11:44Really?
11:45Okay.
11:46All right.
11:47As Rhonda's injuries are being addressed, some of the deputies share their thoughts on the
11:51situation.
11:52I think she's overreacting, and then I think this dude's just sad, and he's kind of done
11:57with, I guess, yeah, his mom died, but he never made any statements to her that he's
12:01going to kill him, so.
12:02Well, he's had a break-in, so it's reasonable for him to be paranoid about that.
12:05That's why he's super paranoid about everything, about yours, because it's been broken into,
12:09and that's, like, a violation of, like, personal, like, internet space, and her freaking
12:15out is probably making him freak out.
12:17And he probably is going into shock, which is why he's sweating so much.
12:20Despite their certainty, Rhonda was about to share a detail with alarming implications.
12:25We want you to go home.
12:27That way, he can go home.
12:29He does the exact part, and I said that was who he was going to do.
12:31But that's where his mother is.
12:33Deceased.
12:33So no one has gone to?
12:35No.
12:36His mother's there deceased.
12:38That's what I was trying to explain to him.
12:40So, you might not stay sick, right?
12:42Eventually, Rhonda is medically cleared and allowed to leave the scene.
12:45However, what she shared about James' mother has left the deputies with the creeping
12:49sense that something isn't quite right.
12:52Wait, what?
12:53The mom's got them that dress, so...
12:55What?
12:57Yeah, she just told me that mom passed over last night.
12:59His mom.
13:00And that she's still there.
13:01And she's still at the house, and no one has gone.
13:02What?
13:03Yeah, we need to, like, all get in a circle, and...
13:06Because this is...
13:07She's out of control.
13:09Supposedly, this could be said that his mom passed over last night, and she's still there.
13:14Nobody has gone.
13:15And she's still deceased in the house.
13:17I don't know how...
13:18How...
13:18True.
13:19...much I trust her information, considering the state of mind she's in, but I think we
13:23should go check that address.
13:24I think she's more my concern than he is.
13:27Well, we can ask him the whereabouts of his mom just to double check.
13:34Still, some of the deputies' doubts about Rhonda linger.
13:37I think she's more of the, um, I guess, aggressor, if you will.
13:42Yeah, yeah, she's off the block.
13:44James has been placed in an ambulance for evaluation.
13:47However, he's refusing to be transported to the hospital.
13:50Uh, James, real quick, brother.
13:52Uh, I'm...
13:52I understand, um, so your mother passed away last night, is that correct?
13:58Yesterday.
13:59Yesterday?
14:00Morning.
14:00Yesterday morning?
14:01Okay.
14:02And was it medical called out, or law enforcement?
14:06Okay, so where is she now?
14:07At my house.
14:08Um, so we will have to go down there and, and make sure she's transport, you know, taking
14:18care of according to how we, we handle those kind of calls.
14:24Um, okay.
14:27So give me one second, I'll go let my sergeant know that we have to go down there.
14:31And this was yesterday morning?
14:33Okay.
14:34And where would she be in the house?
14:36In the hallway.
14:38In the hallway?
14:39Okay.
14:42Uh, he's saying his mom passed away in his house, in the hallway in his house, yesterday
14:48morning, and she's still there in the hallway.
14:52And he never called EMS or an L1.
14:55We need to go there.
14:56Oh, God.
14:57Uh, me, you, and let's, us, we go.
14:59Okay.
15:00This is nuts.
15:00So your, your mom dies.
15:03Why would you not call her?
15:04In, in the hallway.
15:05That's the other thing is, people don't die in the hallway.
15:08Oh, people don't die in the hallway.
15:10They die in bed.
15:11They die in bed and on the bathroom, not in the hallway.
15:13And then he's in shock.
15:16And then he didn't call us.
15:17The first thing you think would happen, you'd call somebody.
15:22You're like, hey, my mom just died.
15:24So your mom dies, dude.
15:27You've been taking care of her for the last 20 years.
15:32What's your reaction going to be, dude?
15:34Are you going to be like, oh, damn, mom died in the hallway.
15:38Let me leave her there for over 24 hours and go run errands and go to her house and start
15:43rummaging through stuff.
15:45What are you doing in there, dude?
15:46She's just decapitated in her life.
15:51And then that's the other thing is, here's the other thing.
15:54We got called out for 4-2-1 threats for him.
16:00Like, imagine something happens.
16:02You're not well mentally.
16:06Your mom is, dude, nothing on this call makes any sense.
16:10It's still big on to me real crazy, but I thought she was straight up lying, but then
16:15you took on the chair.
16:17Yeah.
16:18The deputies can't see anything amiss from outside the house.
16:21I was in danger, but they're dead and suspicious.
16:24I would just argue.
16:26Chair's office.
16:27Suspicious circumstances.
16:28Oh, I agree with you 100%, but the state of New Mexico won't.
16:34Because of the fact that they'll say, well, there's no agency.
16:37She's already dead.
16:37She can't get more dead.
16:40I heard that, you mother...
16:42Since they can't enter the residence without James's permission, one of the deputies still
16:56at the other scene speaks with him.
16:58Hey, James.
17:00So, I'm Deputy Vela.
17:01I just have a question for you.
17:03Is it okay for us to go into your residence to check on your mom?
17:07My mom's passed away.
17:08Is it okay if we go into your residence?
17:10Is that okay?
17:11Yes.
17:11Yeah, it is?
17:12I have my dog here.
17:14And I'm concerned that I take her.
17:15The deputy reassures James that no one will take his dog.
17:19I have my property.
17:21No, we're waiting for you.
17:23That's why we're waiting for you.
17:27That's why I asked you if you would open your door, let us in, and you said yeah.
17:30They decide to transport James to his house so he can help them enter.
17:34However, given the uncertainty about the situation, they place James in handcuffs.
17:38Well, I'll turn on the heater for you real quick, okay?
17:42Can I get, can you get my blanket out of there or something?
17:46Sorry, I'm freezing.
17:47I'll turn it right now.
17:50Would you like to come and open the door for us?
17:53Or would you, is it okay with you if we open the door?
17:55What would you prefer?
17:56What would you like?
17:58Well, the first thing is, we'll have the dog taken somewhere.
18:03We'll bring the dog out.
18:04Right.
18:05But would you prefer that we open the door or did you want to open the door?
18:08Yeah, because this is your home and this is for your request to check on your mom.
18:11Well, as they said, my mom is deceased.
18:13Right.
18:14And like we talked about that, you'd like for us to check on it, correct?
18:17Check on the situation?
18:18Sure.
18:19Okay, did you want us to open the door?
18:21Still unaware of the horror that unfolded inside the home, they take the key from him.
18:25Turn the turn right.
18:26Let's make an entrance.
18:28Sheriff's Department, anyone inside, make yourself known now.
18:32Go ahead.
18:34What's up, Poppers?
18:35Are we going in guns blazing and everything?
18:38Yeah.
18:38Oh.
18:40Oh.
18:43What do we have?
18:44We have a DB, obvious 10-7, blood on the walker, on her lacerations to her legs, possibly head.
18:56Let's just clear the house, make sure no one else can hear.
18:58Okay, I'm going to take this way.
18:59Okay.
19:01Okay.
19:03Well, I think our suspicions may have been confirmed.
19:07Confirmed.
19:08This does not look like a natural death.
19:12No, I would say this is not.
19:15I'm just going to clear this real quick.
19:18There's blood.
19:19This is going to be part of the crime scene.
19:22So we got blood right there.
19:25In the...
19:27It's the shower or the tub.
19:30Yeah, this is not good.
19:31There's a pair right here.
19:45I'll clear it.
19:46Okay.
19:47I think this is probably for...
19:48Probably get out.
19:49Yeah, let's secure the house.
19:52We'll call for animal control to secure the dog.
19:56Just don't step on that right there.
19:57Yeah, don't step on anything.
19:58Following their gruesome discovery, the deputies search James and confiscate his phone.
20:03With unsettling calm, James makes an inquiry.
20:09Did you all take the dog outside?
20:11We have not taken the dog outside just yet.
20:13Hold on.
20:15I don't want to put him in a combat step.
20:17Yeah.
20:19We're going to be having animal control probably come get the dog here.
20:23Ryan is not going to pick up the dog?
20:25Probably not right now.
20:28There's a lot of weird s*** going on with this one.
20:33I don't know if it's just because the body's deteriorating, but her state of undress, the
20:39way she's positioned, like none of that makes any sense to me.
20:42And it could be that I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem natural.
20:45I didn't look at the body too much.
20:47We'll let CSI handle that s***.
20:49Something's off about this one, though.
20:51James is swiftly transported to the sheriff's office for questioning.
20:55So we'll take off your trunks, okay?
20:57Okay.
20:58So we'll do your hands real quick?
20:59Okay.
21:03You know, you're going to get all crazy with me, huh?
21:06Put it on top of your head, right?
21:08Thank you.
21:09Stay there.
21:10Deputies remaining at the scene secure the rest of the property,
21:14wary about what other horrors they may stumble upon.
21:16If we find Dad in here, I'm going to be pissed.
21:20It's getting weirder and weirder in the longer we're here.
21:23I just wondered, like, what his plan was.
21:27I don't know.
21:28I think the shoulder, on accident, maybe panicked.
21:34Didn't know what to do.
21:36Decided, you know, I'm just going to...
21:38Kill himself?
21:39Kill himself, yeah.
21:41During questioning, James would eventually provide an answer to that question,
21:45as well as explain his mother's disturbing fate.
21:48Hello, sir.
21:49That's for you.
21:50I guess you should look back.
21:51Thank you.
21:52So, um, I wanted to talk to you today about...
21:56...just because...
21:59...you need to have this treated as...
22:00...you need to do with this information.
22:02Of course, until I prove that, what I do know.
22:04It's just part of the process.
22:06The detective reads James' Miranda rights, and he agrees to speak.
22:10James, can you help me understand why you're here today?
22:14It's a lot of tough time.
22:15So, you know, can you tell me where she's been living with me for the last five years or so?
22:22And, um, we've been having some conflicts of the way.
22:29Tell me about that.
22:31Which is just, you know, disagreements or conflicts.
22:36And, you know, she says, she sometimes makes some, you know, derogatory statements to me.
22:43That's right.
22:43Like, the dog, um, wasn't fed physically.
22:50I think that's why she doesn't have enough weight, and it's, you know, going to kill the dog.
22:56That's not a good one.
22:57Though James appears less than enthused over the prospect of discussing what happened between him and his 83-year-old mother, Marion,
23:04and the detective next asks the question likely on everyone's mind.
23:08It seems that despite the deputy's certainty that Rhonda had been overreacting when she called 911, her fears had been justified.
23:26Still, a question remained.
23:29How exactly had Marion passed?
23:31She had fallen out of a chair.
23:34That chair that she's on now.
23:37So, I helped put her back.
23:38I put her back on the chair.
23:40Despite this claim, Marion's injuries couldn't have been caused by a fall.
23:44James states that it was around 11 a.m. on the 1st, over two days earlier, when he realized his mother had died as she sat in her walker in the hallway.
23:53He admits to leaving her sitting in that chair for around 15 hours before he noticed that she had passed.
23:59Instead of calling 911, James carried on with his day, heading to work and even sleeping in the house with his mother's corpse.
24:07He only told someone about Marion's passing when Rhonda met him at his father's house.
24:12Some of the deputies discussed the horrific nature of this fact while at the scene.
24:16You wake up, get your normal cup of coffee, and right in the corner of your eyes, mom's bloated, decaying corpse in the hallway.
24:24What do you think the dog thinks?
24:26The dog was like, please double carry me.
24:28Already, there was growing doubt about James' claim that his mother died as a result of a fall, as some of the deputies still at the crime scene speculated.
24:37That's a little bit weird, dude.
24:39I think what happened was they had an argument.
24:43He killed her.
24:45Kind of went crazy.
24:47Went back to her house for some reason.
24:51Maybe he was suicidal.
24:54Dude, this is wild, bro.
24:58This girl was straight up murdered.
25:00Holy s***.
25:01She looks like she got the s*** beat out of her, and she's in her walker.
25:06Not in a walking position.
25:07She's like seated down in her walker.
25:10Lean back, like, naked except for a diaper.
25:14Huge lacerations all over her legs, arms, face.
25:18Blood spatter on the walls, on the floor.
25:20I'm going to assume, yeah.
25:23Like, this is a homicide.
25:24How real?
25:26Well, looking at the face of straight evil today, it feels like.
25:30This guy's an actual psychopath.
25:33Following Marion's death, the rest of her family had to be informed about the tragedy.
25:37Hi, Sergeant Neese.
25:39I am Lisa Colbert, and your officers were here at my home a few hours ago.
25:45Yes, ma'am.
25:46And, you know, we have a horrible, horrible situation.
25:50Absolutely.
25:50I'm very sorry for your loss.
25:52I'm, you know, we're blown away.
25:54My husband is in a huge proposal meeting with the government today.
25:58He doesn't even know this yet.
26:00Lisa eventually told her husband, John Colbert, James' brother, about his mother's death.
26:06And the two came down to the station to speak with detectives.
26:08What they shared added a haunting layer to the already disturbing story.
26:13They discuss Marion, sharing that after she moved in with James so he could care for her,
26:21they rarely saw her and only occasionally spoke on the phone.
26:24During one conversation a year prior to her death,
26:27Marion told them that she feared James may attempt to take his own life.
26:31She was so worried, in fact, that Lisa called 911.
26:34My mother-in-law called.
26:37She's 82 years old.
26:39She sounds very distraught.
26:41She called about 20 minutes ago.
26:43She's very worried about her other son, whom she lives with.
26:48She's unable to physically navigate the home.
26:52He went to feed the dogs at 5 o'clock p.m., and he hasn't come back.
26:58And he's not entering his phone.
27:00She thinks something's happened to her son, my brother-in-law.
27:03Okay, so what's your mother-in-law's name?
27:06Oh, sure, sure.
27:07We have my brother-in-law.
27:09Hold on.
27:10Is he okay?
27:11John.
27:12My brother-in-law just answered the phone.
27:14Oh, my God.
27:15Okay, what's her name, your mother-in-law?
27:18Marion Colbert.
27:20How old is she?
27:2182.
27:22Okay, I think she's having an episode of some sort.
27:26I think he's okay.
27:28He's okay.
27:29My husband just talked to his brother.
27:33She's having some sort of episode.
27:35Once Lisa and John got in contact with him, James also called 911 to clarify the incident.
27:40Well, so my mom was trying to get a hold of me, and I had fallen asleep with the ringer off.
27:45So she called my sister-in-law, Lisa Colbert, who my understanding called 911, to make a wellness visit.
27:52I'm fine.
27:53It is not a problem if you could put that in the record.
27:55I will make sure and let them know.
27:57Thank you.
27:58All right.
27:58Bye-bye.
27:59Would you say she was scared?
28:00Oh, terrified.
28:01Okay.
28:02And she believed he was going to do it.
28:05You know how he is.
28:06He'll get mad at me.
28:07He'll yell at me.
28:09But in the last few years, three, don't get mad at me if I hang up.
28:15Honey, James comes in.
28:16I have to go.
28:17I have to go.
28:18And I'm like, why can't you talk to me?
28:20You know, what the heck?
28:21Yeah.
28:22I said, we have to say we're somehow going to try to help James.
28:26We've got to do something to help this lady.
28:29We knew he would decline.
28:31We knew he would be, ah, ah, like always.
28:33No, no, no, no.
28:34You know, hang up on you.
28:35Yeah.
28:35Rudely.
28:36No, I'm good.
28:37I don't need anything.
28:37I'll let you know.
28:38No, bye.
28:39Just shut you down.
28:41She calls us again.
28:43Again with the suicide.
28:45Again with, I don't know what to do.
28:48And we said, John said, Mom, there's professionals.
28:52Mom, but he will, he'll kill me.
28:54He'll go off.
28:55We can't just call and do that.
28:57We can't.
28:58No.
28:59You're going to get me in trouble.
29:00You're going to get me in trouble.
29:02Even with this eerie warning, they had no idea just how bad things had become.
29:07I didn't call that in my mind because I knew that, you know, I would be found to be, you
29:17know, doing the other abuse.
29:20Her pain and stuff like that, you know, was bruised up.
29:25This detail was apparent to everyone who saw Marion's body.
29:29In terms of her injury, she's got shin.
29:32That one looks like a laceration.
29:34Oh, yeah.
29:35A lot of these are looking like just tears, but I'm not a doctor.
29:39Oh, man.
29:39So, um, left shin, right shin, her kneecaps, um, fat tear, fat tear, shoulder tear, her face
29:51is completely black and bloody.
29:53Ooh.
29:54Um, skin tear to her neck.
29:56Okay.
29:57Tell me more about her face or where she looks.
30:01This marks on her face or her face.
30:03How did she get this?
30:07Tell me about her.
30:08Okay.
30:10For you.
30:12Okay.
30:12What part of your body?
30:14What?
30:15What she does.
30:17My hand.
30:18Okay.
30:19When I look back, she looks like that.
30:25It's like a little bit hot slap.
30:26Her skin, because of the, the warping, um, it's very, very, very brittle or softer.
30:37That's the medication for her lover.
30:39It's like, okay.
30:40And so her skin is very soft because of that.
30:44And if you, if you do, you just touch her arm or her hand or something, it can make skin
30:51come off.
30:53Though James is adamant that his mother fell in the living room, evidence discovered in
30:57the home may suggest that there's more to this story than James wants to admit.
31:01If you look right across from you, there's blood up there.
31:04Oh, okay.
31:05And then there's blood on this wall, right here.
31:09Yeah.
31:09Okay.
31:10This is that carmine, dude.
31:12How long you thinking?
31:14They told us a day and a half, maybe?
31:17I don't know, but look at all the points.
31:19It's all purple.
31:21Yeah.
31:21Dude, that right there is crazy.
31:24Yeah, there's a bunch of shit in here, and there's a bunch of blood, and it goes around
31:26this hallway, and I didn't go through here, but Nas said that there's more blood back there
31:30as well.
31:32Wait, everything's all packed up.
31:33I thought he was getting ready to, like, jump ship.
31:35There's blood here.
31:39But there and there.
31:40It's down there.
31:43Like she's trying to leave.
31:45Mm-hmm.
31:46Look at her, like, tendons are showing, like, right here.
31:49Mm-hmm.
31:50I'm so sorry I think this happened.
31:53James's brother, John, and his wife, Lisa, also discussed the lacerations when speaking
31:57with the detective.
31:59And then he decided to stab her and do the lacerations.
32:03Now, so I don't know if the coroner told you about that, the lacerations that I was referring
32:07to on her shins.
32:09No.
32:10So that's what they told me is something called tissue bridging that comes from bone force
32:14trauma.
32:14Mm-hmm.
32:15No, you could see her tendons.
32:17That, that too.
32:18Uh, they were not able to tell me exactly how that happened because some of the skin was
32:22very brittle because of the age and because she was there for a couple days.
32:26Right.
32:26Though James has provided some answers, a few questions remain, namely, if he would
32:31admit to any role in his mother's death.
32:33How could it affect you so strongly?
32:36And that building question, you're asking, but I think you know how to answer it.
32:40That building, how I'm aware of what's happening.
32:42I'm not meaning anything, but I would just ask the body.
32:45It's so upsetting to you.
32:48Because if the body would be invisible, correct?
32:51When she was saying pretty hurt, at least you were upset.
32:54That you pushed her out of the chair?
32:56No.
32:57Not my weapon.
32:58I'm not sure I answer.
32:59With this less than satisfactory answer, the detective leaves James alone.
33:06While he's been unwavering in his story that he didn't kill his mother, and she died as
33:10a result of falling, John and Lisa share an alternate version of events.
33:14According to them, Rhonda allegedly told them that James initially made a concerning statement.
33:20He admitted it to her.
33:23She's-
33:23He admitted what to her?
33:24That he killed his mom.
33:27How did he admit it to her?
33:28He said I hurt my mom.
33:30Okay, he said it to her.
33:32He said it to her.
33:33And she said, he then...
33:37I'm sorry, babe.
33:38It's unclear whether or not this claim is true, but regardless, the detective returns
33:44to James' interrogation room in order to gather final evidence.
33:48Good morning.
33:48Good morning.
33:48Good morning.
33:49My name is Detective Walker.
33:51I'm with CSI.
33:51Uh-huh.
33:52Um, so what I'm going to do is take some photos of you and then, uh, collect some evidence
33:57from you, okay?
33:57Okay.
33:58You mind standing at that wall for me?
33:59Sure.
34:03All right.
34:04I've got to collect your clothing, so if you don't mind, this one recording, okay?
34:09Everything except your underwear.
34:11Okay.
34:12And then I'll give you this.
34:14Okay.
34:15Rest it up from here?
34:16Sure.
34:23What's wrong from it?
34:24Sure.
34:26And put your hands right here.
34:27Okay?
34:28Yeah.
34:28Ponds together.
34:30You know what's up?
34:31John and Lisa had a final comment regarding Marion and James.
34:49She was a sweet little lady.
34:51She didn't deserve this.
34:53He's more of a monster.
34:54He can't walk on this.
34:56Holy crap.
34:56He is a liar.
34:57He's lying on her ever.
34:59James Colbert eventually pled no contest to murder in the second degree and failure to
35:04report of violent death.
35:06He was sentenced to nine years in the New Mexico Department of Corrections.
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