00:00What I'll do is wait a little while and then I've got to do the final work on the back legs
00:07but the legs are all pretty nice anyway. I don't want to do too much.
00:12It's kind of like that Bauhaus idea of showing the material underneath, not being shy to reveal
00:22the actual material that I had been using to get the results. I like that idea.
00:30It could be a bit old-fashioned, I don't know. I went to art school in the late 80s, heading to the early 90s.
00:42But I had a lot of trouble, an unbelievable amount, because my background was a little weird.
00:50I had a stigma in my background and consequently I didn't quite gel with the situation.
01:03Very unfamiliar to me, but also I wasn't perceived with any degree of trust or the expectation that I'd be the right sort of person
01:16to inhabit that environment. I was way, way back. And yeah, I was very, very shell-shocked. I've just come from another country.
01:28I've only been there two years. I didn't know what the, what the, what the hell, what the carnation had actually hit me.
01:36Anyway, I'm avoiding the Australian vernacular, because I don't know, some people might not prefer it.
01:42But I didn't know it. And so I came in for a lot of so-called slack. I came in for a lot of pain and difficulty,
01:54which actually I didn't deserve. But so it goes. Anyway, those eyes are coming along. I mean, they're a bit human eyes.
02:05I think that's what freaks people out. They look at the eyes and they're not really animal eyes. They're more human eyes.
02:13Oh no, what are you doing? What are you making? What horror? Anyway, so I had a lot of horror in my life.
02:24Hard to quantify, hard to qualify, hard to make sense of, but I had quite a bit, really. I really had quite a bit overall.
02:36And I guess some of my art could come from that place, I guess.
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