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Why NASA administrator Sean Duffy’s atomic directives are not that outlandish.

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00:00Today on Forbes, NASA is already prepping to build Trump a nuclear reactor on the moon.
00:08This past week, NASA Administrator Sean Duffy declared the Trump administration's intention
00:13to land a working nuclear fission reactor on the moon by the end of the decade.
00:18Duffy said, quote,
00:20We're in a race to the moon, in a race with China to the moon.
00:25Planting reactors is more effective than planting a flag in the lunar dust.
00:30Duffy referenced the idea of a, quote,
00:32keep-out zone around a reactor that effectively lays claim to a desirable area,
00:37like craters holding frozen water.
00:40So does Duffy's five-year timetable seem too aggressive?
00:43Not particularly, when you consider that NASA and its many contractors
00:47have been relying on atomic power for a long time.
00:51Since the 1960s, NASA has powered Apollo missions, space probes, and Martian landers
00:57using radioisotopic batteries that turn the heat emitted by plutonium-238
01:02and other decaying isotopes into electricity.
01:06The Apollo devices are still on the moon.
01:08And those on Voyager and Pioneer probes
01:11were the first man-made objects to leave the solar system.
01:14But those devices only put out 100 watts or less.
01:18The nuclear fission reactors, like what Duffy is talking about, are far more complicated.
01:22They generate heat by splitting apart uranium-238 and would put out 100 kilowatts.
01:29That's only enough electricity for a couple dozen homes on Earth.
01:33You'd need a lot of them to power a moon base.
01:36But let's backtrack.
01:37Do we need nuclear on the moon?
01:40A decade ago, NASA decided the answer was yes.
01:44Nighttime lasts for 14 Earth days in many lunar locations,
01:47making solar panels unreliable.
01:50And you can't burn oil, coal, or gas in a vacuum,
01:53even if you could get it into orbit.
01:56NASA first validated micro-reactor tech via something called the Kilopower Project,
02:01then in 2022, gave $5 million grants to three consortia to perfect 40 kilowatt designs.
02:08The specifications of the fission surface power project,
02:11called for a system that weighs just 6 tons,
02:13can fit into a cylinder 13 feet in diameter and 20 feet long,
02:18and can work for 10 years, self-regulated,
02:21with no maintenance or refueling required.
02:24It's a tough remit, says Sebastian Corbusiero,
02:27the National Technical Director for Space Reactors at the Idaho National Lab,
02:32whose team selected the companies for the year-long NASA study.
02:35He says, quote,
02:36Corbusiero does believe a lunar reactor is an important and necessary first step
02:50to developing systems that could sustain a Martian colony.
02:54As his research group found in 2023,
02:56quote,
02:57surface nuclear power is required for a sustainable lunar presence.
03:02The three consortia Corbusiero's group selected for the 2022 contract
03:06are Lockheed Martin with BWXT,
03:10a team that had already been working for NASA on Draco,
03:13a $500 million demonstration spacecraft powered by a nuclear reactor.
03:18Then there's veteran reactor builder Westinghouse,
03:21partnered with Aerojet Rocketdyne,
03:23which plans to adapt its existing E-Vinci microreactor.
03:27The third is startup X-Energy,
03:30teamed with Maxar and Boeing.
03:32X-Energy is working on microreactor projects for Dow Chemical and Amazon,
03:36but aims to use its own non-standardized fuel source
03:39rather than the standardized HALU fuel,
03:42which stands for High Assay, Low Enriched Uranium,
03:45that NASA directives call for.
03:48Corbusiero is diplomatic and won't speculate
03:50on which company approach he prefers.
03:53The final system is likely to use a Stirling engine
03:56to convert fission heat into electricity
03:58and feature meltdown-proof liquid sodium circulation.
04:02When asked whether we can get one on the moon in five years,
04:05he says, quote,
04:06yes, in my opinion, it is doable.
04:10It will depend, however,
04:12on continued development of the rest of the Artemis flight system,
04:15the first crewed mission Artemis II,
04:17is scheduled for early 2026,
04:19and whether NASA can get the money.
04:22On Earth, microreactors cost billions.
04:26According to Duffy,
04:27the Trump administration thinks America can't afford
04:29not to plant reactors on the moon as soon as possible.
04:33China is planning its Chang'e-8 mission in 2029
04:36to test out methods for building a lunar base
04:38with robots and 3D printers by the mid-2030s.
04:42Duffy says both China and the US want to monopolize
04:45the best lunar real estate near the poles,
04:48where the sun always shines.
04:50Duffy says, quote,
04:51we have ice there, we have sunlight there,
04:53we want to get there first and claim that for America.
04:57For full coverage,
04:58check out Christopher Hellman's piece on Forbes.com.
05:03This is Kieran Meadows from Forbes.
05:05Thanks for tuning in.
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