00:00Thank you for being here. Mr. Hamilton, let me ask you, sort of following up on some of the
00:06questions that I asked Ms. Dillon after her testimony, that a lot of these, you know,
00:11discriminatory efforts, these divisive efforts couched as DEI, a lot of the, there's a lot more
00:16awareness now of what that really is. Five years ago, maybe not so much, the flowery language sort
00:21of cloaked the discriminatory aim. Where do you see this headed now? There's still
00:29work to do there, and she's doing the work, and I think you'll probably see more other causes of
00:37action from individuals even probably pop up. But, you know, whether it's social-emotional learning or
00:46community, whatever the term might be, what are you seeing out there that is sort of DEI by another
00:52name? That is a really good question, because we've seen, in some cases, corporations, universities,
00:58other institutions take on and actually abandon some of these exclusionary programs and policies.
01:05But in many other cases, they seem to be just deleting the language or changing the language
01:10and morphing to things, trying to fly under the radar long enough to think that they're going to
01:16evade federal enforcement or they're going to evade private liability. And so what do I think is going
01:22to happen? Where do I see things going? I think I see, with this Department of Justice, with organizations
01:28like mine and others, a renewed awareness and commitment through education, through litigation,
01:35through everything in between, to make Americans aware and to make corporate leaders, make the C-suite
01:42and the university administrators aware that discriminating against American citizens, whether you can call it any
01:49name you want, call it any kind of program, but any program that discriminates against an American citizen
01:55or reserves something for another citizen and provides a benefit, whether that's in terms of an employment,
02:01whether that's in terms of education access, whether that's in terms of anything of the sort,
02:07that that is discriminatory and there is liability. There is actual liability that will attach to it.
02:13We're proud at America First Legal to represent many individuals who have had successful resolutions
02:20of their claims of this type of discrimination, whether in the private context, whether in the public context,
02:27everywhere in between. But what it's going to take is more attention, more spotlighting, just like you're doing
02:33with this particular hearing, to make the American people aware and to educate everyone of what Congress did
02:40when it passed the plain statute, Title VII, Title VI, again, Title IX, if you just return to the plain text,
02:47and we're all textualists these days, if you return to the plain text of those statutes,
02:52there is no discrimination that's permitted against an American citizen on those bases.
02:56I want to talk with the time, in two minutes, I will have to touch on sort of two topics that are somewhat related.
03:01And I think for a lot of people, like normal people out there that don't live in this,
03:07like radical racialization of America that many of the elites and those on the left have pushed,
03:14they don't understand where this comes from. Corporations are supposed to, you know, they hire people,
03:18they make money. But this sort of insidious corporate equality index that many of them chase,
03:24that sort of puts out there is this carrot, you're going to get a great rating,
03:27and we're going to talk about how great you are. And it's funded by, you know, that partially by Soros,
03:32and all these groups that are chasing this clout. Inherent in that, then, are these exclusive
03:38discriminatory policies to get a higher equity rating. It seems to me that probably what needs
03:44to happen is there need to be a couple of massive lawsuits and a couple of massive judgments against
03:50companies. I mean, I'm not going to, you know, single out any particular target seems to be sort
03:55of an example, but there's a lot of them out there. Do you think that as a litigation strategy
04:00might be something that should be pursued? Yes. This is the short answer. The longer answer
04:06is that I think that that will bear out over the next year to two years. Yeah. There will be massive
04:11liabilities imposed on corporations that they were not expecting and that will change the world
04:17forever. Yep. And then one of the, we've talked a lot about university criteria and quotas. One of the
04:23things, again, that I think people don't understand, I certainly saw it in my time as attorney general in
04:29Missouri school districts, you wouldn't expect Springfield school district, not, you know, in
04:33St. Louis, Kansas City, Springfield, Missouri had some of the most radical materials in front of,
04:39not only in front of kids, but part of the trainings. Mostly, you know, CRT is not a class.
04:43Well, the fact is if you teach and train every administrator and teacher to view the race and
04:48separate the room by oppressor and oppressed, then that's it. That becomes a part of the entire
04:53curriculum. Where do you see that coming from? What influences it? How does it get from the think
05:00tanks in Washington, D.C. to Springfield, Missouri? What is the apparatus you've identified? How does
05:04that happen? Well, what happens, based on the records that we've already identified, is there's a whole
05:10entire consulting industry that's driven and there's an ecosphere that's built up, supported by this
05:15consulting industry with NGOs, a lot of money driving these things to pay for these things. And they
05:19teach and they just spread this knowledge across the entire country. And as a for example, we uncovered
05:26one of the first things that our organization did, maybe in 2021-22, is we uncovered records from a
05:31school district in Pennsylvania that showed definitively that CRT was being actually used
05:36in a school district. They were, in fact, teaching CRT. And they had a little diagram and it funneled
05:42everything. And it was at the time when everyone was saying, oh no, this is just a fib of the right.
05:47This is something that doesn't actually exist. But there's an entire monetary driver that is
05:53creating this, that is spreading this, that had been spreading this across the country.
05:57And I think that over time, whether we look at antitrust enforcement, whether we look at other
06:01private civil liability, there's a lot of other things here that are going to weaken the ability
06:06of them to perpetuate the spread of this type of information.
06:09It's the head of the snake. I mean, the oppression matrix, you know, grade school kids being forced
06:14to engage in privilege walks. It's totally insane. Senator Welch.
06:17Senator Welch. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Stewart.
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