Jones & Keefe: Should the Patriots move on from Kyle Dugger

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00:00You and I kind of agree on Duggar.

00:02I'm not really the biggest fan, even going back to when he got drafted.

00:05He is a physical safety, but with so many teams throwing at tight ends

00:09and things like that, he can be a liability at times.

00:11However, why are you cutting him?

00:14Is he trying to save money?

00:15Like, you have all the money.

00:16You have all the money in the world to spend,

00:18so I don't really know what the point would be.

00:19If he's going to be a depth player, is he going to be happy with that?

00:22You know, I'm not saying he's Rafi Devers,

00:24but, like, if he's going to be a depth player and Woodson's outplaying it,

00:28like, who do you like better – let's rewind for a second.

00:30Who do you like better as a player, Peppers or Duggar?

00:33Peppers.

00:33Okay.

00:34But right now I like Duggar more than Woodson.

00:37Well, but it depends on how you want to play defense, right?

00:40I mean, are Duggar and Peppers – is that a good safety combination?

00:43That feels like two guys who are very similar,

00:45two guys who are better coming forward than going back.

00:48Woodson's supposed to be more of a free safety, McCourty type, if you will,

00:52high-end comp.

00:53But he's supposed to be more – so the fit defensively might be better

00:56with Woodson and Peppers or Woodson and Duggar

01:00because Peppers and Duggar play a similar game.

01:03So if Duggar is going to be phased out to a degree,

01:06is he the kind of guy who's going to buy in?

01:08Is he going to be happy with that?

01:09What can you get for him via trade?

01:10I wouldn't want to necessarily outright cut him.

01:12That's what I'm saying.

01:13Lawyer Malloy style.

01:14Right, right.

01:14But if you can get something for him via trade, yeah, I understand that.

01:19And if you're playing Woodson and Peppers more and that's your safety combo

01:22going forward and there isn't a spot for Duggar, I don't mind trading him.

01:25I would feel worse about outright cutting him.

01:28I'm not even a big fan of his game.

01:29Yeah, no, and neither am I.

01:31So it's weird for me to defend him.

01:33But it's also like this team doesn't have a lot of talent.

01:35We just went through all the exercises before about top ten in each position,

01:39also receiving votes, all that stuff.

01:41They're not super talented.

01:42He might be one of their ten or twelve best players if you're just going through

01:46like in a vacuum each position.

01:47Like where are they grade?

01:49Well, again, he was one of the guys getting votes at the safety position, right?

01:52Which Peppers did not.

01:53You're not like, you know, cutting Lawyer Malloy, but here comes Rodney Harrison.

01:57Like you're cutting Kyle Duggar or trading Kyle Duggar even.

02:01You're waiting on that draft pick.

02:02You're hoping that Woodson steps up.

02:03But look, I think that's a similar situation.

02:06I mean, those guys are way more high end, but there was redundancy with Malloy and Harrison.

02:12And they brought in a rookie in Eugene Wilson.

02:14And maybe there are some parallels there where, you know, Vrabel lived through this.

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