00:00And that picture flopped very badly. I had nothing on my hand. I had no money to pay. I had nothing and not even a person whom I could go to.
00:09He says, you let me tell you one thing. Want to anything? You want to work in a paper? Okay, come tomorrow.
00:16But there is one line he wrote down. Don't come back with a defeat.
00:22Friends, today we are going to introduce you the greatest filmmaker in our country, the greatest legend.
00:30Who few months back won the Dada Falke Award and now he has got Badam Bhushan Award.
00:36We are so proud of him because he is the complete filmmaker, the best filmmaker we have got in our times, Mr. B.R. Chopra.
00:43Faisal, you made Daastan after Afsana for such a long time. In that film, Ashok Kumar was working.
00:54In this period, you took a great, great actor. Again, you took Dilip Kumar.
00:56What did you experience working with Dilip Kumar after a long time after Nayadol and then this last time?
01:06You see, Ash, normally we make pictures of some subject and we don't repeat our subjects.
01:15This you will say that we have repeated it. Yes, we did.
01:18And perhaps knowingly, but why we did it, there is a small story behind it and I would like to take it in confidence.
01:25You see, when he landed in Bombay in 1947 with a view to become a producer, the first picture I made with the partners who wanted to make only a picture which clicks and that picture flopped very badly which landed me in absolute distress.
01:49I had nothing on my hand. I had nothing on my hand. I had no money to pay. I had nothing and not even a person whom I could go to.
01:56I applied. I want to say that because I want to pay a compliment to that person.
02:04You see, I applied, not applied, but he was my uncle, you must be knowing, Dugadas of Hindustan.
02:13He was a thousand times.
02:14He was a thousand times.
02:15I wrote to him, look, sir, I am absolutely stranded and I have got no way to live. I have got a house all right, but I don't know how to pay the rent.
02:26He says, you let me say, tell you one thing. You want to become, want anything? You want to work in a paper? Okay, come tomorrow.
02:37If you are not able to come tomorrow, I will put you in Bombay. But there is one line he wrote down, don't come back with a defeat.
02:47That changed my style. I said to him, I will not, I will not do it. I told my wife, whatever happens, I will back borrow steel, but I will make only a film now.
02:58And luckily, for one thing or the other, the sheer guts maybe, God was kind. And somebody offered me that I am prepared to finish your picture because your story is very good.
03:14So, what will you take? What will be these terms? I said, what are the terms? Let us take a director, let us take artists and things. Who am I? I am nobody.
03:24He said, no. If you want my money, then I only will give you money for direction. You direct the picture, you take the money. Here is 50,000. I did get 50,000.
03:40And if you don't get it, I will draw, we shake hands. Now, that is when they became a...
03:47Condition sort of way.
03:49Now, that prompted me to do something. That when that person who was financing me, he said, let us think of an artist. Who is that artist?
03:59So, I said to you, I personally feel that the Shokabar would be very good. He said, no. Shokabar is all right. But I would like to take Dilipkabar. Now, I couldn't say no. Dilipkabar, you can't say no.
04:18Yes. So, I went to his house. I was waiting at his house till one o'clock, along with that Agarwal. He came and he apologized that I was shooting and he said that. And his people were very nice.
04:35His father was a wonderful man with beer and all. His brothers were very, very wonderful people. And I was looked after up to one o'clock.
04:42Looked after. Somebody said, take some milk, some no chai, milk. Because they were all along at that time. Anyway, he came.
04:52He came and he apologized and then he said, have a wash and all. He said, no wash wash. Let's start work because you have waited off so long.
05:00We stole the story. Do you know what he said? I am bald over the story. It's one of the best stories I've heard.
05:09So, I had to wash wash. Then that means you are working. No. I am not working in the scripture.
05:18Somebody elder to me should be working because I as a judge will look no good. And a judge, I have no personality.
05:25But this is what happened. Anyway, the picture was made of Sana. It was a big weight, recognized by everybody.
05:34But the first man who came to me, the first man without, because he had not done my picture before.
05:40The first man who came to me was Mr. Nirip Kumar, who says, congratulations, we will make this picture.
05:47Make this picture. He was promised at that time. He continued that every time we met, he says, I am only stuck on that. I like to make that picture.
05:58So, anyway, we did do it. And of course, against my own principles, I must say. Because when I was making the picture, I was afraid of this. That is against my principle.
06:08Against my principle. And Dilip Kumar, what he did? Of course, it was a mistake, which I allowed him to make.
06:18That he changed the characters. It had a dual role. In one role, Dilip Kumar was to be a villain.
06:27Mawzi villain, who was a killer. And in that original picture, he did kill. In the... In the... In the... In the... In the... In the... In the second role, he was a judge.
06:38In the second role, he was a judge. And the judge was all right. Now, when I saw, when I did this, he says, Mr. Oprah, I would like to do one thing.
06:46I like to make a comedy. Second character comic. Second character, how can it become a comic? He is a villain. And on him, the whole thing stands.
06:57Because, because of the villain, the judge comes into being, judge comes like that, then he writes, and all that.
07:03He says, no, I personally feel. No, you can't sometimes. And you do wait, bow down. And I think you are one of them to do it. Also with me.
07:14Yes. And we did it.
07:18In that film, you, first time, you worked with Lakshmi Ghat Beryalala.
07:22Yes. And they give wonderful music.
07:24What is your experience working with them?
07:27My experience was really very good, to be very frank with you.
07:32And, but the problem again is, that having worked with Mr. Sahil Rani, and Rami, you know, this thing sometimes did not really get together.
07:44But there was a very good song. That's what I felt.
07:47That's what I felt.
07:48That's what I felt.
07:49That's what I felt.
07:50That's what I felt.
07:51That's what I felt.
07:52I say, I, I mean, I did like that song of Dilip Kumar. That's what I felt.
07:57Very nice bank.
07:58Very good song.
07:59Very beautiful song.
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