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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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05:59dans l'espace théâtre,
06:02l'espace d'un-réalité, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution, vous savez.
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté créative
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27Je n'ai pas besoin d'un côté.
06:29Donc, une fois que je suis fait quelque chose,
06:30j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36J'ai besoin d'un côté de quelque chose.
06:57J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:11Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
07:414K. I think 4K is like amazing because so many films can be rewatched with even better quality
07:50and who doesn't want that, you know? So it's kind of like a new layer of the new normal for me. So
07:58I decided to do all my films in 4K, slowly rolling them out, you know?
08:03I think cinema and television for that matter has had a very tough time in the last 10 years
08:14or so, 10, 15 years. Gaming, social media, VR canvases are exploding and they're constantly
08:21evolving because technology is allowing them to evolve. Movies and television, TV is becoming
08:28more and more just content that you almost look at while you're doing other things. And movies are
08:34still that window of exclusivity of the collective experience. But I think that movies also needs to
08:42re-evaluate themselves. I remember when we were in Cannes for Only God Forgives and I, after everyone
08:49had been booing me for so long that during my stay, I did say, look, you can be angry with me and about
08:57my film, but I am from the future and I'm going to make something that's going to predict what it's
09:04going to be like if you want to make films in the future. And I was right because right after
09:10Only God Forgives, the industry changed because of Netflix. Netflix was the game changer.
09:15And it changed not so much what we're making, but it's how we experienced film and content,
09:23essentially, how we viewed it. And I think that to justify or for a movie to exist in longevity,
09:29you have to see what a film can become rather than what it used to be.
09:37Violence is like sex. It's all about the buildup. Bang, bang, and then it's to the other wall.
09:43Now, make it dirty, unique, interesting, never seen before in violin.
09:50I'm not that strategic, but I will say that everything is an evolution of something.
09:58And there can be a tendency when something is liked that everyone wants the same same.
10:07But I don't necessarily think that's true. It's better to give them something else or something
10:12different or something that destroys your past in order to make something new, to transition.
10:20You know, obviously the two films are very different, but what ties them is myself and
10:27Ryan's interaction. However, I find that interesting. It's like taking something and
10:32turning it on its head. It's taking the ultimate superhero in one movie and emasculating him in the
10:39next. It's taking one movie that's very poppy and another movie that's very esoteric. And that,
10:47I think, is what makes the world interesting, is that things can become different. It can evolve into
10:54other components, rather than just always staying in the same repeat lane, because you very quickly run
11:01out of steam, in my opinion. I was very happy, but obviously, you know, a lot of harsh reactions,
11:09and a lot of booing and screaming. But then I was like, that's kind of cool, because then you're like
11:16the sex pistols of cinema. You know, you're like the one everyone throws bottles at, but you can't
11:22deny it existence. You can't really criticize it, because I did it my way. The world will see it
11:29as it continues to evolve, and you just have to be, you have to just to be, trust yourself.
11:35So you never lose your vision when you have that strong reaction?
11:39No, on the contrary, you're like, it's like energy. It's like, just wait for the next one.
11:43I love that.
11:45I'm like you. I have no regrets about Only God Forgives. I think it's a masterpiece, and it is.
11:49I just didn't make it very expensive.
11:52Is there a doctor in the house? We need to get a medic in here. Is there a doctor around?
12:00When you were mentioning 2001, it says, I think, Kane, you forgot to add Drive. We'll let that slip.
12:06We won't know about Drive for another 30 years.
12:1030 seconds.
12:10Whether it lives or dies. I'm talking about films. 2001 was made in 1968.
12:17I made this film about four years ago.
12:20Four years is a zip. It's not even a blip. It's not a pimple on the asshole of humanity.
12:28What was funny about talking to Billy Friedkin was that it was, he had a man who had struggled
12:34a lot in Hollywood, and started very successfully at a young age, and then gone into sorceress,
12:43and, you know, was still traumatized by that experience after so many years, and I think that was what was so sad,
12:52in a way, that it had such an effect on him. It's a little bit like Michael Cimino doing Heaven's Gate.
12:57These amazing films, both Sorceress and Heaven's Gate, are probably their best films, for some reason get so destroyed,
13:07and then they lose sight of themselves, or they lose their confidence, and it affects all the other movies they make afterwards.
13:15And I was like, I'm never going to be like that, because I'm right, you're wrong.
13:19I mean, I've done two shows, one with Amazon, one with Netflix, and I like what I was making, obviously,
13:30but I don't know how much I want to continue. I may want to take a break and go and make movies again.
13:41I've decided to do more visual arts, you know, and trying to find other areas of creativity,
13:50but I think it's time to go make a film again.
13:54You said you work on two shows, but you work on The Famous Five, or something.
13:57The Famous Five was a television show that I just, how do you say, executive produced or created,
14:04but I had no involvement in it, otherwise I just created the kind of concept and the story.
14:10Based on these very famous books.
14:12The Famous Five was more because my kids would read the books when they were young.
14:16I remember my mother reading me the books, so it was more like a past history thing that came up as an opportunity.
14:27Well, I mean, if something is interesting, you know, why not look at it?
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood, met wonderful people, but in the end, I like my freedom.
14:37That's all I really want, is just to be free.
14:41When you work in Hollywood, there is a contract.
14:44Some people love that and can work within that.
14:48It's maybe not so much my thing right now, but who knows, maybe next year I'll do a big, you know, big superhero movie.
14:56Maybe, that could be fun, maybe, I don't know.
15:00I'm pretty open to anything, but at the same time, at the end, you should just make what makes you happy.
15:05It's one thing having creative control, which is easier enough, but it's where all the money that's invested puts a burden on you.
15:16Because all that money has to get, you know, recouped.
15:19And then you have to make a certain type of movie.
15:21You don't have the freedom to do whatever you want, because you're a slave to the economics.
15:27If your film costs $200 million or $100 million, you need to make $300, $400 million to break even.
15:33That already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make.
15:36And I don't want any conditions on me, at all.
15:41You have to be completely free.
15:47I mean, in the beginning, a lot of people were talking about another drive, but it was like, that would be the worst idea I've ever heard of.
15:56So never?
15:56Never.
15:57I've been very lucky to live a fun life, and it has nothing to do with fame.
16:14You realize very quickly.
16:17It has that I've had opportunities, and I've been able to work with people.
16:22I've met people.
16:23I've spoken with people.
16:24and it's all been a lot of fun.
16:27But I think when I started, the idea of being seen was very essential.
16:33The idea of fame, and fame being an opportunity, it's like a stage.
16:39One thing is becoming famous, the next, what are you going to do with it?
16:43And obviously, it's like anything, it's an opportunity.
16:47I don't have any love.
16:50You're a mess.
16:51You're working all the time.
16:52I also have to work.
16:54I was...
16:55I was...
16:56I was...
16:56I was...
16:56I was...
16:57I was...
16:57I was...
16:58We're going to be here in Bangkok for six months.
17:01Yang Han will make his next film, and I have said yes to the film process.
17:05It's new, that we're together with him, when he's filming.
17:09My daily life is, I have a routine.
17:23I wake up, I do two-hour sports every day, then I usually have lunch, then I get yelled at by
17:31my kids.
17:32I work at night, and then try not to get to bed too late, and then Friday comes, and it's
17:42weekend, and you try to relax a little more, and the next day is Monday.
17:47I used to watch a lot of movies when I was a lot younger, but now it's just harder and
17:54harder.
17:54There's other things that I find interesting.
17:56Like what?
17:57Well, I did my first exhibition that just opened in Tokyo, and that's been a lot of fun to
18:04do that.
18:05A collaboration with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Mm-hmm.
18:07Yeah.
18:08Can you talk about that?
18:09Well, it's...
18:10I created an exhibition that opened on Friday last week in Tokyo, where I built this installation
18:19between us.
18:20I saw my wife and my daughter in the procession.
18:24Hey, it's me!
18:27I am Heart Man, and Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding.
18:55I think that don't believe everything you read on the internet.
19:02Okay.
19:03Can you tease us something?
19:04Well, believe everything you read on the internet.
19:07Ah, okay.
19:08It's been a long time.
19:15I think, Pat.
19:18You're going to see a beautiful film.
19:19There's a beautiful film.
19:20No, no, no.
19:22You're are a lovely film.
19:23Punt.
19:24No.
19:25No.
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