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00:30This is the Debbie Perkins Radio Show.
00:55And here's your host, Debbie Perkins.
00:58Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Hollywood Red Capit Radio Show.
01:03I'm Debbie Perkins.
01:03I'm your host.
01:04And I have Phil Summers here with me today.
01:07Phil is a paranormalist for many, many years.
01:11I have run into him in different scenarios throughout time.
01:15And I know his value to the field.
01:18And he's also an author and producer and many hats, actually.
01:24So welcome to the show, Phil.
01:26Man, that sounds like just a straight-up, like, one-up.
01:33I'm sorry.
01:34I don't know why I keep one-up better than that, Deb.
01:38But you've been in the field for a very long time.
01:41And you're very well-educated.
01:45Yeah, that is true.
01:47It is true.
01:48I've been in the paranormal industry since at least my background started in 2001.
01:59And it didn't really kick off until 2008.
02:05I think that a lot of people were, like, I started in 1999 as well, so, you know, way back.
02:15But that was when my interest was learning to go towards people that knew about paranormal.
02:23Now, who inspired you in the field in the very beginning?
02:26And I know that you've probably met people along the road that have actually helped and furthered your education.
02:33And, you know, the people that you look up to.
02:36Who are some of those people that you can mention?
02:40And what did they actually teach you that has stayed with you?
02:45Yeah, for sure.
02:46Like, my people that inspired me was the producers of the show, A Haunting.
02:57It didn't matter if it was from 2001 to 2011.
03:02Those people, they were instrumental into my just going out there and branch into the paranormal aspect of how the world works.
03:16Now, is there anybody in particular that you followed?
03:24Yeah.
03:26Actually, there is.
03:28Let me go on my records.
03:33Sam.
03:34The truth.
03:37Sam from A Haunting.
03:39That man was a.
03:43Definitely a catalyst to how I got into the more scientific aspect of the paranormal and the evidence-based, factual evidence of what you would say would be evidence in paranormal.
04:04If there was some kind of activity reported in a location.
04:14Okay.
04:15Now, where did you grow up and where did you have your first experience in the paranormal?
04:20Oh, man, that's my favorite question of all, because I grew up in Charleston, South Carolina.
04:29And many people know that Charleston, South Carolina is the Bible Belt.
04:36Yeah.
04:37Yeah.
04:37But underneath that Bible Belt status, there is a dark aspect into the paranormal that not many people know when they visit here in Charleston.
04:53They expect, like, European architecture and all that stuff.
04:59But whenever they come over here and they actually investigate what needs to be investigated, they don't realize that the paranormal is highly, highly part of what makes Charleston, South Carolina.
05:23And that's how we make our money here in South Carolina.
05:38Now, where you live, are there any locations that you find that are maybe either a favorite place to investigate and learn your draft?
05:48or is there something a lot of people know about but don't really go or do really go you know
05:57like what is something like because where you're from i always wonder like the states everybody
06:02lives in what type of paranormal activities do they actually have like in locations and what
06:08are more like famous locations or very well known well the more well-known places are the old city
06:17jail in charleston south carolina and that place is absolutely 100 verifiable you will get paranormal
06:30evidence at that location but the problem is is you cannot investigate that location anymore because
06:39it's a new ownership the uh the dog and duck yeah the dog and duck um magazine and as
06:52you you know that that magazine is definitely on the side of there's no goes nothing nothing's here
07:07we're trying to rebrand all that stuff yeah well i think that um well people are going to go there
07:16and they're going to have experiences and they're going to be like well i heard this place have a
07:22history you know it's going to be given especially if spirit wants to connect with somebody that is
07:31either highly functional as an empath or or a medium go into those places as a medium and even for a visit
07:42something may happen what the problem is is there's constituents that have basically bought out the whole old city jail
07:57property and they can't really do anything about it even if they experience right paranormal stuff they can't they
08:11they really can't yeah that that is a bigger issue on on the sense that
08:18politicians are it's like a trickle down effect okay like say the politicians
08:31that run that area want you to believe that that place is haunted blah blah blah blah blah blah it's haunted
08:44but the the main issue is is the bureaucrats in the city and the county and all these jurisdictions
08:57they don't want the old city jail to be a hub of paranormal activity
09:08they're hiding it i see what i'm saying so they're they're content with the way it is right now
09:15they don't want to have things more things happen
09:20exactly exactly just the way just presented it right now
09:27i guess i guess that kind of makes sense when you're purchasing a property and you don't want to
09:35have things happen but things are going to happen anyway you know exactly and those they're still
09:41going to have experiences but whether or not they want people to come in and do the work the figure it
09:48out or you know or they do it themselves i don't suggest that but like because attachments you know
09:58whenever you're dealing with the paranormal in the spiritual realm
10:01you deal with taking on the uh if you're not protecting yourself
10:06you can be get an attachment that's going to take and go home with you every day
10:11and going to cause you havoc and bad luck and negative energy and fighting and
10:19you know just all those things that you don't want to bring home with you
10:22and that is the main goal of everywhere in the united states it doesn't matter where you are
10:31what jurisdiction you fall under that is the main
10:37idea right there yeah what do you just what do you just said
10:44because people don't realize that there's so many new people in the field right now
10:51you and i both know we're away from the old school there's so many new people in the field right now
10:57how does that make you feel i mean i i i want to believe that i think it's great that the fields grow
11:03okay but then back when we started out there was all kinds of people screwing up locations
11:10so either you got an awesome opportunity to go to a great location and then this group goes in
11:17a week before you messes everything up brings all kinds of negative energy out or whatever or whatever
11:25you never know especially in the paranormal and that the company says nope i can't have your group come in
11:31you guys have to leave or whatever um because somebody else did something so that's been happening
11:40for a long long time and i always thought like what a lot of the paranormalists think about this
11:45because you know you're you're in it to learn and share your education with the public
11:50just like all of us that are in it for our hearts i mean i'm like you i i believe that we're in it
11:59for the better good um not to frighten people not to scare them away uh maybe help them be more
12:07educated what are your thoughts on that joe but the thing about it is is yes you're completely right
12:16on what your assessment is on what you just explained just now yes there is a lot of things
12:27behind the books that people don't realize they're not aware and um i have a fear
12:38that eventually down the road
12:43paranormal paranormal stuff and congress and all that stuff they are not going to have the leverage
12:56that they have now because people are more and more
13:02just ostracizing themselves from what we believe and the paranormal as we speak now yeah i think so
13:18i think there's a lot it's not a matter of if it's a matter it's a matter of when
13:24yeah and hopefully that won't be anytime anytime soon but with so many new groups popping up left and
13:33right and it's funny because i look at the the you know how like they have the groups uh the
13:40gatherings they have pair conventions and stuff and i never get invited oh yeah and i and i used to get
13:47invited but i don't get invited and then it's like did they forget i existed like all the no no no no no
13:54they didn't they didn't exist that you forgot they use this so they can silence you
14:03i mean because i thought what we would teach and um well because i taught teenagers for for like a whole
14:11year and and it was very educational and the parents joined and we had a great time but i always wonder
14:17like all these new groups and and what are they silencing the the past of knowledge of what we have
14:25been able to share with the public you know like you know i did a radio show for years on the on the
14:31paranormal my producer mark knows that too because i've worked through him and uh i think that you know
14:37having people from all over the world talking about the same subject and but in their their way and
14:44what they do like you um i thought that that was extremely important to the education of furthering
14:51the field helping people that maybe want to get into it or are into it just to see it from a different
14:59perspective from somebody else the same like i'm talking to you now do you do you have any experiences
15:07with that because i know how long you've been in the field yes i i do have experiences with that
15:16and what oh man i hate having to having to basically put this out there but there's things going
15:34around going along around this world where we don't understand because some countries have
15:45me uh just basically media outlets where they just like break apart and and they don't allow their media to go beyond a certain
16:06a certain a certain basically um what's the word i'm looking for but you know what i'm saying and
16:21you need to realize that these media interests
16:31do not represent what we have in this country in our good old u.s of a they don't they don't they don't
16:48oh man it it feels bad for me to even say this on this broadcast
17:00but you're being honest but yeah i am being honest and
17:07but let's call it for what it is russia is not let it allow you say to
17:20share media assets does that make sense
17:27yeah i think we were talking about this earlier too explain to the people what you're talking about so
17:33they have some kind of an inside about what it is you're actually talking about because i think
17:39people would get a little confused so explain to them like you did me earlier
17:45that way it's very much understandable
17:47okay so
17:50the united states is perpetuating ufo ufo ufo ufo ufo that's their
18:02that's their hideaway so to speak
18:07russia
18:11they are trying to get the get the word out that they're trying to maintain transparency
18:25but at the same time they are actually holding together information they know compared to the information we know
18:41does that make sense
18:43that's basically contradicted
18:45yes it is it is
18:49and so
18:51when you hear
18:53tiktokers
18:58or media
18:59influencers
19:00out in the united states saying
19:03oh there's a ufo here
19:05there's a ufo here
19:07there's a ufo here
19:08what they are doing is they are
19:14i hate
19:17using the word distraction
19:19but that is what it is
19:22because in the last what two years
19:27we've heard of all kinds of different things
19:30more so now
19:32because i think you remember that one where they
19:35they chased them and
19:36shot them down over like canada or something
19:39yes
19:40and
19:41and not only canada did they
19:43did they shot
19:44shoot down a
19:46balloon
19:49if you will
19:51if that is what it was
19:53the good year balloon
19:55but
19:56we also had
19:59our
19:59balloon
20:01going across
20:03the united states
20:05gathering intel
20:07and
20:10people just don't know
20:12i'm wondering like with all this uh
20:17all this uh
20:18radio activity in the air
20:20like because it's invisible
20:21for the most part
20:23with all the wi-fi
20:24and all the radio
20:26like
20:27general radios
20:28like what you have in your vehicle
20:29with all that activity going on
20:32i wonder if that
20:33has some curvature
20:35on
20:36paranormal activity
20:38the spiritual
20:40you know back to the spiritual again
20:42um
20:43i always wonder like
20:44because all these homes now
20:46are
20:46all have internet
20:48all have wi-fi
20:49we all have radios
20:51you know what i'm saying
20:53our tvs are connected to wi-fi
20:55so we automatically
20:56don't even have to plug nothing in
20:58everything's like set up
20:59like roku
21:00so i wonder if that has any bearing on
21:04increasing a
21:05paranormal activity
21:07period
21:08what do you think
21:10no
21:11because
21:12i believe
21:13that
21:14these
21:15frequencies
21:16that
21:17the paranormal
21:18operates under
21:20they will not
21:21affect
21:23directly
21:24what's going on
21:25in the world
21:25what's going on
21:28in the world
21:29is just
21:31a
21:32multi-fessional
21:34uh-huh
21:38it's a multi-fessional
21:41war
21:43against
21:43everybody
21:44and
21:47it's
21:49not
21:50as deep
21:51as you think
21:52but
21:53it is
21:55an
21:55AI
21:56based
21:57military
22:01objective
22:02sorry
22:07you know
22:07I decided to
22:08growl at each other
22:09um
22:10well I'm glad that
22:12you
22:12you
22:13you told me about that
22:14because I was
22:15I've been kind of curious
22:16about that kind of thing
22:17you know like
22:18because there's so many
22:19invisible waves
22:20in the air
22:21just makes you wonder
22:25you know
22:26like what else
22:27could it affect
22:28oh
22:31that part of the
22:37that part of the
22:38structure
22:38is not
22:39going to
22:41affect
22:41everything
22:42around the world
22:44but it will
22:45affect
22:45nation
22:47upon nation
22:48upon nation
22:50upon nations
22:51so they will
22:52have the
22:52ability
22:53to
22:54basically
22:57shut off
22:59all
23:00communications
23:01around the
23:04world
23:04that's scary
23:07that's a
23:08definitely
23:08scary thing
23:09that somebody
23:10has that kind
23:11of power
23:11to turn off
23:12the light switch
23:13to
23:13the reality
23:15of our world
23:16the way we are
23:17right now
23:17you know
23:19I mean
23:20they worried
23:20about that
23:21in what
23:211999
23:22when it
23:23turned over
23:232000
23:24remember
23:24they thought
23:25that the
23:25world was
23:25going to
23:26come to
23:26an end
23:27and we
23:27were all
23:27while the
23:28computers
23:29were going to
23:29go down
23:30I remember
23:32I mean
23:33I'm sure
23:34quite a few
23:35people are
23:35listening that
23:36would remember
23:36that
23:37some people
23:37might have
23:38been too
23:38young
23:38but
23:38I just
23:40remember how
23:41scared
23:41everybody was
23:42like
23:43oh no
23:44you know
23:45because I
23:45remember
23:46I bought
23:46my first
23:47gateway
23:47and it
23:48was a
23:49it was
23:49like a
23:50$3,000
23:50computer
23:51and that
23:51was a lot
23:52of money
23:52back then
23:52and I
23:53was like
23:53oh if
23:54this computer
23:55doesn't work
23:56after this
23:57you want
23:58to know
23:59why
23:59they thought
24:01the computer
24:02wouldn't work
24:02after 2000
24:04I don't know
24:05the clocks
24:05I thought
24:06well
24:08it had
24:08to deal
24:09with
24:10the
24:11yes
24:11the clocks
24:12but
24:13at the
24:16end
24:16of
24:17the
24:17millennium
24:18the
24:19computers
24:20didn't
24:21have the
24:22means
24:22to
24:23go
24:24past
24:25the
24:26designated
24:29clock
24:30in time
24:31oh
24:33what
24:34I did
24:35not know
24:35that
24:36that's
24:36yes
24:36so
24:37they
24:38they
24:39worked
24:39tirelessly
24:40across
24:42all
24:43federal
24:44assets
24:48to be
24:49able to
24:50go
24:51and
24:52manipulate
24:54what
24:56is
24:56going
24:56to
24:57be
24:57done
24:57near
24:59zero
24:59day
24:59that's
25:00what
25:00they
25:01called
25:01it
25:01zero
25:01day
25:02they
25:04had us
25:05all
25:05scared
25:05to
25:06remember
25:06that
25:07like
25:07things
25:07but
25:07we
25:07thought
25:08everything
25:08in the
25:09world
25:09was going
25:09to get
25:09shut
25:10down
25:10that's
25:11kind
25:11of
25:11funny
25:12though
25:12now that
25:13we're so
25:13far
25:14beyond
25:14that
25:14it's
25:16kind
25:16of
25:16laughable
25:17when you
25:18think
25:18about
25:18it
25:19it is
25:20laughable
25:21it really
25:21is
25:22because
25:23our
25:23threats
25:26extend
25:32way
25:32beyond
25:33Y2K
25:36it's
25:36way
25:37beyond
25:38what you
25:39can even
25:39comprehend
25:40now
25:44Phil
25:44talking
25:45about
25:45some
25:45of
25:45your
25:46experiences
25:46what
25:47is
25:48one
25:48of
25:48the
25:48most
25:48memorable
25:49experiences
25:49that you
25:50had
25:50within
25:50the
25:50paranormal
25:51of
25:51the
25:51case
25:52that you
25:52can
25:52talk
25:53about
25:53that's
25:53not
25:53like
25:54a
25:54private
25:54thing
25:55definitely
25:57the
25:59Shriners
26:03Temple
26:04we're
26:08sure
26:08the
26:09Shriners
26:09Temple
26:10can you
26:13tell us
26:13about
26:13that
26:13oh
26:14yeah
26:15definitely
26:16I would
26:17love
26:17to
26:18okay
26:19so
26:21we
26:22started
26:22out
26:22our
26:23investigation
26:23by
26:24going
26:24around
26:25taking
26:25the
26:26baseline
26:26readings
26:27and all
26:27this
26:27stuff
26:28what
26:28you
26:29would
26:29expect
26:30paranormal
26:32investigators
26:33to
26:33just
26:35basically
26:36adhere
26:38to
26:38and
26:40we
26:40did
26:40everything
26:41we
26:41possibly
26:42could
26:42but
26:44something
26:47happened
26:47along the
26:48way
26:48where
26:50we
26:51found out
26:52that there
26:53was a
26:53spirit
26:54at that
26:55location
26:56at a
26:56temple
26:57a Shriner's
26:58temple
26:59that
27:00basically
27:01wanted
27:02to
27:03make
27:04himself
27:05known
27:05so
27:07what we
27:09did
27:10is
27:11the
27:13investigator
27:14that I was
27:15with
27:15and me
27:16we are
27:17basically
27:18military
27:19integrated
27:21we
27:22we do
27:22things
27:23but
27:23about
27:23military
27:25wise
27:26right
27:26yeah
27:27so
27:29we
27:30pulled
27:30that
27:31same
27:31strategy
27:32and
27:34when
27:35we
27:35went
27:36and
27:36investigated
27:37the place
27:38that this
27:39entity
27:40told us
27:41to be
27:41at
27:42I
27:43kid
27:44you
27:44not
27:44we
27:45had
27:46poltergeist
27:47activity
27:48that
27:49I
27:50can't
27:50debunk
27:51you
27:51can't
27:52debunk
27:52I
27:54hate
27:54that
27:54word
27:54debunk
27:55but
27:55you
27:56know
27:56what
27:56I
27:58never
27:58liked
27:58it
27:58either
27:58but
27:59I
27:59understand
28:00the
28:00meaning
28:00for it
28:01it
28:02is
28:02what
28:02it
28:03is
28:03and
28:03it
28:03happened
28:04so
28:11you
28:11see
28:11what
28:11happened
28:14well
28:15we
28:16got
28:17the
28:17creme
28:18de la
28:18creme
28:19of
28:19paranormal
28:20evidence
28:20at that
28:21location
28:22specifically
28:23because
28:25you
28:29know
28:29Phil
28:29Summers
28:30is the
28:30man
28:31my
28:32boy
28:32Ron
28:33he's
28:34the
28:34man
28:35and
28:35we
28:36know
28:36what
28:36we're
28:36doing
28:37so
28:46now
28:46talk
28:47about
28:47your
28:47book
28:48because
28:48I
28:48think
28:49that's
28:49very
28:49interesting
28:50now
28:52how
28:52long
28:53did
28:53it
28:53take
28:53you
28:53to
28:53write
28:54the
28:54book
28:54so
28:56I'm
28:57still
28:57in the
28:57middle
28:58of
28:58writing
28:58my
28:59book
28:59and
29:00there
29:03so
29:04you
29:06know
29:06you
29:07know
29:07how
29:08a
29:08book
29:09is
29:09written
29:09you
29:11have
29:12a
29:12draft
29:13a
29:14rough
29:14draft
29:15and
29:15all
29:16that
29:16stuff
29:16and
29:17then
29:17what
29:18happens
29:18is
29:19somebody
29:21who's
29:22in
29:22charge
29:22of
29:23your
29:23writing
29:24team
29:25they
29:26write
29:30what
29:31they
29:31know
29:32is
29:32to
29:32be
29:33accurate
29:33to
29:34how
29:35books
29:37are
29:38supposed
29:38to
29:38be
29:38written
29:39but
29:40I've
29:42been
29:43kind of
29:43going
29:44back
29:44and
29:44forth
29:45to
29:46those
29:46people
29:47and
29:48me
29:49and
29:50making
29:50sure
29:51my
29:51book
29:52is
29:52as
29:53official
29:55as
29:55it
29:56comes
29:56like
29:57it's
29:58the
29:58one
29:59thing
30:00that
30:01you
30:01can
30:01go
30:02to
30:02to
30:03basically
30:04make
30:08sure
30:09your
30:10idea
30:11is
30:12not
30:12construed
30:14does
30:18that
30:18make
30:18sense
30:19yes
30:20absolutely
30:21and
30:22I've
30:23never
30:24written
30:24a book
30:24but
30:24I've
30:25been
30:25a
30:25part
30:25of
30:26a
30:26book
30:26and
30:27I
30:27knew
30:27that
30:27it
30:27took
30:28quite
30:28a
30:28while
30:29for
30:29that
30:29like
30:30you
30:31said
30:31it
30:31has
30:31to
30:31be
30:31going
30:32through
30:32its
30:32channels
30:33but
30:33the
30:35proof
30:35readers
30:35or
30:37the
30:38editing
30:38team
30:39or
30:40whoever
30:40does
30:41the
30:41cutting
30:41out
30:42of
30:42what
30:42doesn't
30:43apply
30:43you
30:45know
30:45what I
30:45mean
30:45like
30:46or
30:46how
30:47how
30:47I
30:49don't
30:49know
30:49pages
30:50or
30:51it's
30:52just
30:52like
30:53because
30:53the
30:54font's
30:54going to
30:54be
30:54different
30:55on
30:55each
30:55book
30:55depending
30:56on
30:56if
30:57it's
30:57a
30:57big
30:58book
30:58they
30:58might
30:58make
30:58small
30:59you
31:00know
31:00what
31:00I
31:00mean
31:00make
31:01the
31:01book
31:01smaller
31:02and
31:03that
31:04is
31:04exactly
31:05why
31:06I
31:06want
31:06my
31:07book
31:07to
31:08be
31:08the
31:08way
31:08I
31:08want
31:09it
31:09and
31:09I've
31:10been
31:10making
31:11sure
31:11that
31:12every
31:12aspect
31:13of
31:13this
31:14book
31:14is
31:15in
31:15accordance
31:16to
31:17the
31:17way
31:17I
31:17want
31:18it
31:19now
31:19you
31:19going
31:20by
31:20your
31:20past
31:21experiences
31:22yes
31:23okay
31:24so
31:25what
31:25people
31:25are
31:25going
31:26to
31:26read
31:26when
31:26they
31:27get
31:27that
31:27is
31:27they're
31:28going
31:28to
31:28read
31:28on
31:29the
31:29different
31:29experiences
31:30that
31:30you've
31:30been
31:30able
31:31to
31:31witness
31:32in
31:32your
31:32lifetime
31:33in
31:34the
31:34field
31:35can I
31:36give
31:36you
31:36an
31:36example
31:37yeah
31:38all
31:41right
31:41so
31:42one
31:45night
31:45one
31:46night
31:47I
31:47was
31:47able
31:48to
31:49kind
31:52of
31:52go
31:54to
31:55a
31:56cemetery
31:59and
32:01I
32:02already
32:02had
32:02pre
32:03planned
32:04out
32:05to
32:06where
32:06I
32:07basically
32:10had
32:10control
32:11of the
32:11situation
32:12and
32:15I
32:16had
32:16a
32:16simulated
32:17ride
32:17to
32:18the
32:19cemetery
32:21and
32:23it
32:24was
32:24by
32:25one
32:26of my
32:27uncles
32:27that was
32:28buried
32:28at that
32:29cemetery
32:29right
32:30by
32:31right
32:32by
32:32so
32:33I
32:35actually
32:35had
32:37that
32:37guy
32:38he
32:38ran
32:39a
32:40hearse
32:41business
32:42and
32:45I
32:46basically
32:48had
32:49him
32:49simulate
32:49me
32:50go
32:52to
32:53ride
32:53to
32:54this
32:54grave
32:55and
32:57I
32:57was
32:57put
32:58inside
32:59the
32:59grave
32:59at
33:00night
33:00and
33:03I
33:04basically
33:04spent
33:05the
33:05whole
33:05entire
33:06night
33:07in a
33:07cemetery
33:08would
33:11you
33:12end up
33:12doing
33:12I
33:14did
33:15a
33:15ghost
33:15box
33:15session
33:16I
33:16did
33:17audio
33:17recordings
33:18I
33:19basically
33:20did
33:21what I
33:21could
33:21to
33:22kind
33:22of
33:23validate
33:25what my
33:26experience
33:27was
33:27yeah
33:28and
33:33I
33:33tell
33:33you
33:34and
33:34I
33:34tell
33:35you
33:35that
33:36caused
33:37a
33:37big
33:38stir
33:38in
33:39my
33:39local
33:40community
33:40did
33:42it
33:42really
33:42oh
33:43yeah
33:44is
33:46it
33:46that
33:46people
33:46don't
33:47understand
33:48or
33:48they
33:48don't
33:48like
33:49it
33:49or
33:49what
33:51do
33:51you
33:51think
33:52it's
33:55just
33:55a
33:56matter
33:56of
33:56fact
33:56people
33:57just
33:58don't
33:58understand
33:59death
34:00and
34:06what
34:06brought
34:06you
34:06to
34:06the
34:07understanding
34:07of
34:07wanting
34:08to
34:08research
34:09the
34:09paranormal
34:10what
34:10what
34:11actually
34:11was
34:12the
34:12trigger
34:12for
34:12you
34:12to
34:13actually
34:13dive
34:14deep
34:15into
34:15this
34:15because
34:16you've
34:17been
34:17serious
34:17for a
34:18very
34:18long
34:18time
34:19what
34:19was
34:20an
34:20experience
34:20or
34:21or
34:22like
34:22an
34:23epiphany
34:23that
34:23you
34:23had
34:24that
34:24made
34:25you
34:25want
34:25to
34:25go
34:25into
34:26the
34:26field
34:27what
34:29made
34:29you
34:29want
34:30to
34:30go
34:30in
34:30the
34:30field
34:31is
34:31the
34:31fact
34:31that
34:32you
34:33know
34:33I
34:33was
34:33bullied
34:34in
34:35my
34:36younger
34:36years
34:37and
34:38I
34:39just
34:40wanted
34:40a
34:41revenue
34:42to
34:42escape
34:43to
34:43so
34:45I
34:45live
34:46in
34:46Charleston
34:46South
34:47Carolina
34:47and
34:48there
34:49are
34:49cemeteries
34:50all
34:51around
34:51this
34:52state
34:52not
34:53just
34:53ones
34:54that
34:54they
34:54show
34:54you
34:55downtown
34:55but
34:56there's
34:56cemeteries
34:57all
34:58around
34:59the
34:59state
34:59and
35:00one
35:00of
35:01these
35:01cemeteries
35:02is
35:03one
35:04of
35:04the
35:04ones
35:04that
35:04I
35:05gravitate
35:05towards
35:06and
35:08I
35:09basically
35:09just
35:10found
35:12solace
35:13and
35:16peace
35:18and
35:21I
35:22have
35:23been
35:23active
35:24there
35:24since
35:25now
35:27what
35:28type
35:28of
35:28tools
35:28have
35:29you
35:29used
35:29even
35:30when
35:31you
35:31were
35:31in
35:31the
35:31early
35:31days
35:32because
35:32you
35:32know
35:32how
35:32people
35:33like
35:34to
35:34use
35:34recorders
35:35I
35:36love
35:36this
35:37question
35:37you
35:38do
35:38okay
35:39what
35:39type
35:40of
35:40technical
35:40devices
35:41do
35:42you
35:42favor
35:43and
35:43which
35:44ones
35:44did
35:44you
35:44have
35:44you
35:44used
35:45in
35:45the
35:45past
35:46so
35:47I
35:48do
35:49use
35:50tools
35:53so to
35:54speak
35:54and
35:56the
35:56tools
35:56that I
35:57use
35:57is
35:58a
35:58k2
35:58meter
35:59I'm
36:00old
36:01school
36:01I'm
36:02old
36:02school
36:03as it
36:03comes
36:04though
36:04I
36:04use
36:05a
36:05k2
36:06meter
36:06I
36:07use
36:08a
36:0912587
36:11ghost
36:11box
36:12hack
36:13oh
36:14hack
36:14do
36:17g
36:17yeah
36:18yeah
36:19that's
36:20fine
36:20g
36:20and
36:21I
36:22also
36:22use
36:22the
36:23k2
36:23meter
36:24do
36:24g
36:25yeah
36:26the
36:27old
36:27side
36:27and
36:28the
36:30one
36:30with
36:31the
36:31meter
36:31I
36:31got
36:32a
36:32call
36:32coming
36:32hold on
36:38I
36:39got a
36:39call
36:39coming
36:40and
36:40you
36:40won't
36:40believe
36:41who
36:41it
36:41is
36:42I
36:44just
36:45had a
36:45call
36:46coming
36:46in
36:46you
36:46wouldn't
36:47believe
36:47who
36:47it
36:47just
36:48was
36:48I
36:49can't
36:50I
36:50know
36:51anyways
36:53anyways
36:55yeah
36:56so
36:57I
36:58basically
36:58use
36:59the
36:59basics
37:00the
37:01analog
37:01equipment
37:03you
37:04could
37:04possibly
37:04imagine
37:05is
37:05analog
37:06yeah
37:08and
37:08I
37:08know
37:09what about
37:09like
37:10dowsing rods
37:10and things
37:11that are
37:12more like
37:12round
37:13dowsing rods
37:14are my
37:15favorite
37:16I
37:17like
37:17dowsing rods
37:18myself
37:19not
37:19not
37:20for
37:21spiritual
37:21use
37:22but
37:23for
37:24the
37:25use
37:26of
37:27detecting
37:28you
37:29you
37:29gotta
37:29keep
37:30on
37:30the
37:30mic
37:30air
37:31Phil
37:31hard
37:32to
37:32hear
37:32you
37:32yeah
37:34I
37:34don't
37:38know
37:39how
37:40to
37:40do
37:41that
37:41just
37:43stay
37:43close
37:43to
37:44the
37:44phone
37:44but
37:45yeah
37:46no
37:46you
37:47said
37:48you
37:48used
37:49the
37:49dowsing
37:49rods
37:49have
37:49you
37:50had
37:50any
37:50experiences
37:51with
37:51that
37:51that
37:51might
37:52shake
37:52you
37:52up
37:52oh
37:53yeah
37:53yeah
37:54yeah
37:54dowsing
37:55rods
37:55hell
37:56yeah
37:57hell
37:58yeah
37:58you
37:59know
37:59what
37:59it
38:00was
38:00though
38:00dowsing
38:02rods
38:02are
38:03really
38:03good
38:04finding
38:04gold
38:06they're
38:08really
38:08good
38:08finding
38:09emeralds
38:10water
38:11yes
38:13I didn't
38:14know
38:14that you
38:14could find
38:14gems
38:15with it
38:15oh
38:16yeah
38:17oh
38:17yeah
38:17for sure
38:18for sure
38:19and I've
38:19been doing
38:20that
38:21another
38:22thing
38:22that I've
38:23been
38:23working
38:24at
38:25my
38:25whole
38:26entire
38:2610
38:27year
38:28doing
38:28this
38:29yes
38:29yeah
38:30that's
38:31true
38:31you've
38:32been
38:32you've
38:33been
38:33doing
38:33this
38:33a
38:33long
38:33time
38:34now
38:36what
38:36do
38:36you
38:36use
38:36now
38:37now
38:38that
38:38you
38:38know
38:38with
38:39all
38:39the
38:39new
38:39gadgets
38:40and
38:40do
38:41you
38:41still
38:41just
38:41stick
38:41to
38:42the
38:42old
38:42school
38:42stuff
38:43when
38:43you
38:43kind
38:44of
38:44venture
38:44into
38:44the
38:45new
38:45world
38:45because
38:45now
38:46some
38:47of
38:47these
38:47now
38:48I've
38:48seen
38:48the
38:48one
38:49with
38:49the
38:49video
38:49where
38:50it
38:50shows
38:51like
38:51a
38:51stick
38:52person
38:52and
38:54the
38:54ghost
38:54is
38:55supposed
38:55to
38:55be
38:55the
38:55stick
38:56person
38:56you
38:58know
38:58I'm
39:00using
39:00old
39:01school
39:01techniques
39:02and
39:02I
39:03will
39:03always
39:03stick
39:04by
39:04always
39:05stick
39:06by
39:06the
39:07old
39:07school
39:07techniques
39:08because
39:09they
39:10have
39:10never
39:10failed
39:11me
39:11and
39:12you
39:13never
39:13know
39:13how
39:13like
39:14corrupt
39:14the
39:15new
39:15stuff
39:15is
39:15like
39:16exactly
39:17boom
39:18you hit
39:19the nail
39:20on the
39:20side
39:20of mine
39:20they
39:21have
39:21apps
39:22and
39:23these
39:23people
39:24running
39:24around
39:24the
39:24graveyard
39:25going
39:25they're
39:26doing
39:27EVP
39:27sessions
39:27but
39:28their
39:28answers
39:28are
39:28coming
39:29to
39:29the
39:30app
39:30and
39:31the
39:31app
39:31is
39:31programmed
39:32with
39:32a specific
39:33amount
39:34of words
39:34and
39:35naturally
39:36words
39:36that
39:36would
39:37be
39:37like
39:37death
39:39and
39:40scary
39:41and
39:42run
39:43and
39:43leave
39:44and
39:44go
39:45and
39:45all
39:46the
39:46things
39:47that
39:47you
39:48don't
39:48want
39:48to
39:49hear
39:49when
39:50you're
39:51a lot
39:51of
39:53dead
39:53bodies
39:54but
39:55exactly
39:57think
39:58that
39:58they're
39:58just
39:59programmed
39:59to
40:00because
40:01I mean
40:01I've
40:01heard
40:01people
40:02say
40:02oh
40:03you
40:03want
40:03me
40:03to
40:03leave
40:04I'll
40:04leave
40:04now
40:05if
40:05you're
40:06investigating
40:06something
40:07you don't
40:08want
40:08to
40:08leave
40:09so
40:10you
40:12want
40:12more
40:13you
40:13want
40:13to
40:13gain
40:14as
40:14much
40:14knowledge
40:14as
40:15you
40:15can
40:15while
40:15you're
40:15there
40:15you
40:17know
40:17you
40:17probably
40:18made
40:18a plan
40:18to
40:18stay
40:19there
40:19for
40:19the
40:19day
40:19and
40:21the
40:21thing
40:22five
40:22minutes
40:22in
40:22saying
40:23leave
40:24you're
40:24in
40:24danger
40:25now
40:27you gotta
40:27leave
40:28no
40:28no
40:29that's
40:30not
40:30that's
40:31not
40:31an answer
40:32to the
40:32question
40:32my
40:33question
40:34be
40:34like
40:34I'm
40:34not
40:35leaving
40:35so
40:36what
40:37do
40:37you
40:37got
40:37else
40:37for
40:37me
40:37that's
40:38my
40:38question
40:38what
40:39else
40:39you
40:39got
40:39but
40:40I
40:40think
40:41that
40:41I think
40:42those
40:42things
40:42are
40:42corrupt
40:42they
40:43things
40:43that
40:43they're
40:43they're
40:44they're
40:44made
40:44generic
40:45for
40:47like
40:48entertainment
40:48I'm
40:51actually
40:52not
40:52I'm
40:53actually
40:53not
40:54comfortable
40:54exposing
40:55the
40:56stuff
40:56that
40:57I
40:57do
40:57know
40:57yeah
40:59as
41:01regards
41:02to
41:02foreign
41:03policy
41:04and all
41:04that
41:04stuff
41:05I
41:05don't
41:05I
41:05don't
41:06I
41:06don't
41:07there's
41:10reasons
41:11yeah
41:14yeah
41:16how long
41:19do you
41:19think
41:20it's
41:20going
41:20to
41:20take
41:20you
41:21before
41:21you
41:21finally
41:21get
41:22to
41:22get
41:24your
41:24book
41:24out
41:24is
41:24it
41:25you
41:25looking
41:25like
41:26six
41:26months
41:26to
41:27a
41:27year
41:27oh
41:28man
41:29I
41:29I
41:30would
41:32say
41:32a
41:33year
41:33because
41:34I
41:35still
41:36have
41:37things
41:38that I
41:38need
41:38to
41:38add
41:39and
41:41my
41:41writer
41:42she
41:42needs
41:43to
41:43add
41:44but
41:45she
41:45needs
41:46add
41:46and
41:48maybe
41:49less
41:50than
41:51a
41:51year
41:51but
41:54about
41:56next
41:56time
41:57next
41:57year
41:57this
41:58time
41:58roughly
41:58you'll
42:00be
42:00close
42:00to
42:00having
42:01it
42:01really
42:01my
42:02book
42:03will
42:03be
42:03out
42:04next
42:05time
42:05next
42:06year
42:06for
42:08sure
42:09I'm
42:10already
42:10at
42:10the
42:10end
42:11now
42:12what
42:12about
42:13being
42:14no
42:15what
42:15about
42:15going
42:15on
42:16television
42:17shows
42:17that
42:18may
42:18need
42:18advice
42:18from
42:19a
42:19real
42:19live
42:20paranormal
42:20list
42:20have
42:21you
42:21ever
42:21been
42:21on
42:21any
42:22shows
42:22or
42:22do
42:23you
42:23want
42:23to be
42:24on
42:24any
42:24TV
42:25shows
42:25or
42:25anything
42:25like
42:26that
42:26I
42:29have
42:30worked
42:31behind
42:31the
42:32scenes
42:32of
42:34many
42:34paranormal
42:35TV
42:36shows
42:36yeah
42:37I'm
42:37not
42:38going to
42:38tell you
42:38which
42:39ones
42:39but
42:41I
42:42have
42:43been
42:43instrumental
42:44in
42:45the
42:46ways
42:47that
42:48these
42:49shows
42:49have
42:50operated
42:51all
42:52this
42:52time
42:53that
42:57because
42:58your
42:58military
42:58background
42:59you have
42:59that
42:59professionalism
43:00that
43:01kind of
43:01backs
43:01you
43:01up
43:02yes
43:05and
43:07I
43:12don't
43:12want to
43:12say
43:12no
43:13but
43:15yes
43:16for the
43:16most part
43:17yeah
43:20I can
43:20see that
43:21I can
43:22see that
43:22that
43:22and
43:23not
43:24just
43:24that
43:24but
43:24you've
43:24been
43:25affiliated
43:25with
43:25some
43:26really
43:26great
43:26people
43:26now
43:27now
43:29do
43:29you
43:29have
43:30you
43:30ever
43:30studied
43:30like
43:31the
43:31demon
43:31ologist
43:32aspect
43:32of
43:33things
43:33to
43:34help
43:34you
43:34with
43:34the
43:34knowledge
43:35of
43:35yeah
43:35yeah
43:36yeah
43:37yeah
43:38yes
43:39I
43:39have
43:39and
43:40I
43:41am
43:41like
43:43I
43:43have
43:43what
43:44coincide
43:45with
43:46some
43:46of
43:46the
43:46biggest
43:47demon
43:48ologists
43:49in a
43:49paranormal
43:50community
43:51that
43:51you
43:51possibly
43:53fathom
43:54and
43:55I
43:56would
43:56say
43:57yes
43:57that
43:58those
43:58people
43:59are
44:00integrated
44:02in
44:03my
44:04spectrum
44:05yeah
44:06I
44:08think
44:08that's
44:08awesome
44:08because
44:09I
44:09I
44:09know
44:10some
44:11I
44:11might
44:11even
44:12know
44:12some
44:12of
44:12the
44:12ones
44:12that
44:12you
44:13know
44:13like
44:13no
44:15I
44:15know
44:15I
44:16know
44:16who
44:16you're
44:16going
44:16to
44:17say
44:17yeah
44:17yeah
44:18yeah
44:18you
44:18probably
44:19do
44:19John
44:21Zaffis
44:21and
44:22let me
44:24say
44:24James
44:27Arnido
44:27and
44:28who else
44:29have I
44:30worked
44:30with
44:31Keith
44:32let me
44:32think
44:33Keith
44:34and Sandra
44:35the
44:35Johnson
44:36brothers
44:37Keith
44:38and
44:38Keith
44:39and
44:40oh my
44:41gosh
44:42this
44:42is
44:42where
44:43I
44:43go
44:43Sandra
44:44yeah
44:45Sandra
44:47I
44:47love
44:48them
44:48let me
44:48just tell
44:51you
44:51that
44:51the names
44:52that you
44:52mentioned
44:53they are
44:55very
44:56they are
44:57very
44:57high
44:58priority
45:00yeah
45:01and I
45:02want to
45:02say
45:02Bishop
45:03Long
45:03too
45:04because
45:04he
45:05for the
45:06longest
45:06time
45:06had
45:07helped
45:08so many
45:09people
45:09in the
45:10field
45:10and
45:11but
45:12they're
45:13all
45:13genuine
45:14people
45:15like
45:15I've
45:15met
45:16Keith
45:16and
45:16Sandra
45:17I've
45:17met
45:17um
45:18my
45:19gosh
45:20what's
45:20his twin
45:20brother
45:21yeah
45:21thanks
45:22for
45:22right
45:22now
45:23um
45:23well
45:24anyways
45:24I've
45:25met
45:25them
45:25guys
45:25I've
45:26met
45:26John
45:26quite
45:26a few
45:27times
45:27myself
45:27but
45:28they're
45:29high
45:29profiled
45:30for what
45:31they do
45:31because
45:31they're
45:32very
45:32professional
45:32and they
45:33don't
45:33slide
45:34on
45:34their
45:35knowledge
45:35they
45:36don't
45:36let
45:37the
45:37world
45:38knock
45:38them
45:38down
45:39as far
45:39as
45:39because
45:40if I
45:40became a
45:41demonologist
45:41nobody would
45:42believe me
45:43you know
45:44what I'm
45:44saying
45:44like
45:45so
45:46and
45:48then
45:48can
45:52I
45:52kind
45:55of
45:55give
45:56you
45:57caveat
45:57yes
45:59of
45:59course
46:00why
46:02would
46:03they
46:04not
46:05believe
46:07people
46:09are
46:10funny
46:10I
46:11mean
46:11you know
46:12the first
46:12time I
46:13had an
46:14experience
46:14I didn't
46:15dare
46:15tell
46:15anybody
46:15until
46:15I
46:16actually
46:16got
46:16to
46:16be
46:16a
46:16teenager
46:17then
46:18I
46:18had
46:18another
46:18one
46:19like
46:19soon
46:19as
46:19I
46:20opened
46:20my
46:20mouth
46:21about
46:21the
46:21first
46:21one
46:22I
46:23had
46:24another
46:24one
46:24which
46:25was
46:25pull
46:25the
46:25guy
46:26stack
46:26activity
46:26which
46:27he
46:27was
46:28more
46:28scary
46:28than
46:28a
46:29ghost
46:29the
46:30ghost
46:30didn't
46:30scare
46:31me
46:31he
46:32looked
46:32normal
46:33like
46:33to
46:33me
46:34the
46:35poltergeist
46:35activity
46:36was
46:36invisible
46:36like I
46:38said
46:38a lot
46:39told a lot
46:39of people
46:40this
46:40magazine
46:41was a little
46:42over my
46:42head
46:42in the middle
46:43of the night
46:43and I
46:43was sitting
46:44on the
46:44floor
46:44listening to
46:45the record
46:45player
46:45and I
46:47was playing
46:47rumors
46:48Fleetwood Mac
46:50I'm sure
46:51you've heard
46:51of them
46:51and
46:52and so
46:57when that
46:58happened
46:58it literally
46:59scared me
47:01to death
47:02I turned
47:02all the
47:02lights on
47:03and the
47:03people came
47:04home
47:04and was
47:05asking
47:05why are
47:06the lights
47:06on
47:07and I
47:07explained
47:07and they
47:08laughed at
47:08me because
47:09they knew
47:09this stuff
47:11happened
47:11and years
47:13later I
47:14went to
47:15the neighborhood
47:16of that house
47:17and there
47:18was a graveyard
47:18near the house
47:19so I was
47:20dumbing around
47:21in there
47:21with my
47:21friend
47:21and the
47:23owner came
47:24out and
47:24he was the
47:25man I
47:25babysat for
47:26and I
47:26explained to
47:27him like
47:28do you
47:29remember that
47:29night
47:29and he's
47:30like yeah
47:31I do
47:32and I
47:33go was I
47:34like losing
47:35my mind
47:35no no
47:37you met
47:38grandma
47:38and I was
47:39like oh
47:39grandma could
47:40have been a
47:40lot nicer
47:41to me
47:41you know
47:42what I'm
47:42saying
47:43I'm just
47:44frightened
47:45the life
47:45I've never
47:46seen anything
47:47like that
47:47so when I
47:48tell people
47:49stuff
47:49they don't
47:50know
47:50I'm just
47:51saying it
47:52making up
47:53stories
47:53but I
47:55wouldn't want
47:55to make
47:55up stories
47:56like
47:57of paranormal
47:58like
47:58I think
47:58that would
47:59just be
47:59unless I'm
48:00writing a
48:01book like
48:01Stephen King
48:02or something
48:02but no
48:03I don't
48:04I don't
48:04see making
48:05up stories
48:05maybe that's
48:06what you
48:06need to do
48:08yeah
48:10write a book
48:12like Stephen
48:12King
48:13write a book
48:15I don't
48:16know
48:16you know
48:18that right
48:18I know
48:19maybe one
48:19day
48:20I can
48:21write a
48:21book
48:22but I've
48:22been on
48:22a lot
48:22of radio
48:23shows
48:23so I've
48:24actually told
48:24my story
48:25quite a few
48:25times
48:26but I tell
48:28it so that
48:29people can
48:29learn something
48:30from it
48:30because I
48:31don't know
48:31why it
48:32happened
48:32and I
48:32don't know
48:33what made
48:33me so
48:34special
48:34but
48:35and I
48:36don't
48:37so I'm
48:37the only
48:37one in my
48:38family that
48:38has any
48:39types of
48:39gifts
48:39whatsoever
48:40but I
48:42also have
48:43like sensory
48:44gifts where
48:45I can
48:46like if you
48:47were in
48:47another room
48:48and I
48:49wanted a
48:50drink of
48:50water
48:51I could
48:52thought process
48:53you into
48:53bringing me a
48:54drink of
48:54water and
48:55you'd think
48:55you heard my
48:55voice
48:56saying hey
48:57would you
48:58bring me a
48:58drink of
48:58water
48:59I don't
49:01like doing
49:02that because
49:02I'm afraid
49:03of what the
49:04balance is
49:04like okay
49:05so I can do
49:06that now
49:07what's going
49:07to screw
49:07up in my
49:08life
49:08yo
49:09Debra
49:10I can tell
49:11you right
49:11now don't
49:13be free to
49:14do that
49:14you know
49:15why
49:16espionage
49:17oh yeah
49:20I should
49:21that's really
49:23funny
49:23so now
49:24Phil
49:25let me see
49:26what we got
49:27we got 10
49:28minutes
49:28I was wondering
49:30like what do
49:31you want to
49:31do moving
49:32forward what
49:33are some
49:33things other
49:34that I'm
49:34finishing the
49:35book what
49:36are some
49:36things that
49:36you want
49:37for yourself
49:37what what
49:38would you
49:38like people
49:39to know
49:39more about
49:40you or
49:41or like
49:41your goal
49:42minds
49:42what's your
49:43goal set
49:43my goals
49:46are to
49:48open up
49:51people that
49:52are in
49:52a paranormal
49:53community
49:55to be able
49:56to
49:57bring their
50:02mindset
50:04to the
50:05moon
50:05and
50:07let's
50:10let's
50:10just see
50:10where all
50:11this stuff
50:11goes
50:12I just
50:14want to
50:15see where
50:15all this
50:16stuff goes
50:17because
50:17it's
50:20not
50:20a
50:21binaural
50:22us
50:27between
50:29them
50:30it is
50:32it is
50:33something
50:34that I
50:36feel
50:36passionately
50:37about
50:37where I
50:38can
50:39confidently
50:40describe
50:45I hate
50:54saying this
50:55but
50:55you know
50:57what
50:57screw it
50:59I'm gonna
51:00say it
51:01I hope
51:02I hope
51:03we all
51:04can
51:05get together
51:06and
51:08do
51:10our
51:10experiments
51:12and
51:13make it
51:15to where
51:17our
51:19experiments
51:20are
51:21goal
51:22orientated
51:23meaning
51:24we all
51:28have
51:28one
51:29goal
51:29that's
51:34that's
51:34that's
51:35my
51:35that's
51:36my
51:37main
51:38goal
51:39okay
51:41that makes
51:42sense
51:42that makes
51:44sense
51:44now where
51:46can people
51:46get in
51:46touch with
51:47you
51:47do you
51:47have
51:47YouTube
51:48do you
51:48have
51:49I know
51:49you have
51:49a bunch
51:50of social
51:50medias
51:51where you
51:52do platform
51:53out
51:53where are
51:54some places
51:54people can
51:55get in
51:55touch
51:55with you
51:56well
51:57I only
51:58do have
51:59one
52:00form of
52:01social media
52:02platform
52:03that's
52:03Facebook
52:04and
52:07I'm
52:08it's
52:10the whole
52:10government
52:11thing
52:12that I
52:12don't
52:13trust
52:13the
52:14government
52:14what
52:16they
52:18promise
52:18I don't
52:19trust it
52:20but
52:21my
52:23main
52:24focus
52:25is on
52:26Facebook
52:26and
52:29and of
52:31course
52:31people can
52:32get
52:32a hold
52:33of me
52:33if they
52:33needed to
52:34get a hold
52:34of your
52:34mark
52:35of our
52:35producer
52:36of course
52:36we
52:39can
52:39directly
52:40connect
52:40you to
52:41Phil
52:41if you
52:42for any
52:43reason
52:43anybody
52:43out there
52:44that's
52:44listening
52:44today
52:45or
52:46whenever
52:46you're
52:47listening
52:47if you
52:48need
52:48Phil
52:49in this
52:50professional
52:50help
52:51we are
52:52here to
52:52help
52:53bridge
52:54that
52:54connection
52:54okay
52:55so
52:56another
52:56thing
52:57that I
52:57want
52:57to
52:58maintain
53:00the fact
53:01that
53:02I
53:02do
53:03kind
53:06of
53:06predict
53:07how
53:08the
53:08future
53:09holds
53:09and
53:10I
53:11use
53:12that
53:12on
53:13data
53:13across
53:14all
53:15the
53:15boards
53:15and
53:17I
53:18just
53:18want
53:19people
53:19to know
53:20that
53:20I
53:21am
53:21looking
53:21out
53:21for
53:22everybody
53:22and
53:24it's
53:26just
53:26a
53:27personal
53:29vendetta
53:31if you
53:31will
53:32right
53:33I
53:34appreciate
53:35you coming
53:36on and
53:36sharing all
53:36your
53:36knowledge
53:37I'd love
53:38it if
53:38you could
53:38come back
53:39on
53:39and I'd
53:41definitely
53:42be interested
53:42in checking
53:43out the
53:44book
53:44when that
53:45comes out
53:45okay
53:46okay
53:47I want
53:48to send
53:49it back
53:49to you
53:49and have
53:50you sign
53:50it before
53:51I get
53:52to enjoy
53:52it
53:53but I
53:54gotta say
53:55that's our
53:56show for
53:56today
53:56but Phil
53:57you stick
53:58around
53:58everybody
53:59thank you
54:00very much
54:00for listening
54:01to the
54:01show
54:01today
54:02this has
54:03been
54:03Debbie
54:04Perkins
54:04and Phil
54:05Summers
54:05and
54:06please
54:07check his
54:08work out
54:09get right
54:11into it
54:11check his
54:11book
54:12it's gonna
54:12be coming
54:13out next
54:13year
54:14and also
54:15some of
54:15his very
54:16interesting
54:16paranormal
54:17experiences
54:17I want to
54:18thank you
54:18guys all
54:19for tuning
54:19in today
54:20and we'll
54:21see you
54:21next time
54:22have a
54:23great day
54:23thank you
54:24peace
54:31you
54:38so
54:41you
54:43I
54:43I
54:43I
54:43I
54:45I
54:45I
54:46I
54:46I
54:47I
54:48I
54:48I
54:48I
54:48I
54:49I
54:51And I
54:51I
54:52I
54:52I
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