Skip to playerSkip to main contentSkip to footer
  • 7/24/2025
Daniel Newman, CEO, Futurum Group, explains what surging meme stocks really says about the market.

Category

🥇
Sports
Transcript
00:00Danny, I want to ask you about meme stock mania. We're seeing a lot of interest in meme stocks
00:04again. What do you make of that? And what does that tell you about the broader market?
00:09As technology research, we don't spend a ton of time here, but you can't ignore it. It's
00:15everywhere right now. Fintwit, you go on, you're seeing Opendoor, you're seeing Krispy Kreme.
00:20I think this is one of those sort of early alarm bells that we have maybe hit that sort of
00:26euphoria in some ways. People are looking for that. How do I make a trade and retire tomorrow?
00:32Big gambles, big bets. And we've seen the rug pulls that can kind of come with these things. We've
00:36seen it in crypto. We saw it the other day with Opendoor had that huge collapse. Someone got out
00:41on a massive block and the thing dropped like it was a parabolic decline that took place.
00:46And so, you know, I think that for investors, some of these are real companies. Some of these
00:52are just not great. I tend to always drive back to fundamentals. There are companies that lack
00:57fundamentals, but that are very investable. We talk about Palantir, we talk about Tesla,
01:01because there's really a thesis, there's a business, there's a future, there's a vision,
01:05and then there's donuts. And I just don't know if I'm an investor, if I'm going to suddenly get behind
01:11donuts. I believe a lot more in GLP-1. So if I'm looking across this, I'd probably get behind a
01:16HIMSS, which I am personally invested in, before I would get into a Krispy Kreme or an Opendoor.
01:21I mean, real estate is, we have high interest rates. We have inventory challenges right now.
01:27That business model is super fractured. And there's a reason it was trading under a dollar.
01:34Yes, low float. Retail can make a big impact. You know, you get Wall Street bets behind it.
01:39It can move a stock. We've seen it with GameStop. We've seen it before with AMC. But we also saw what
01:44happened in the end is AMC, you know, it had to run up and it had to run all the way back down. We've
01:50seen it with GameStop. It's constantly trying to find a pivot to something. And now it's
01:53trying to be micro strategy. I mean, it wants to make its money on owning crypto.
01:57But you mentioned it's ringing the alarm bells. What are those alarm bells warning of,
02:02that the market could be too frothy and nearing a top? What do you make of that?
02:06Well, we've run on incredibly high while there's still some structural issues in the
02:12macro economy. We still have questions about interest rates. We've got uncertainty in the Fed.
02:16We've got job numbers that are of concern. We've got AI potentially replacing and displacing jobs.
02:22We don't know what the future really looks like there. We've still got tariffs out there. I mean,
02:27I think that we've seen that some good deals are being made. And that I don't think the tariffs are
02:33much of a concern, but there's still a lot of unknowns as to what that is going to mean.
02:37And so when you put all these kind of macro factors together, together, and then you try to
02:42like place it over the backdrop of like, is a company that's maybe not growing, that doesn't
02:47have a lot of cash on the balance sheet, that maybe has a low float, is highly shorted. Is that where I
02:54want to chase money? And it feels to me like whether, you know, it's been some of these crypto rug
03:00polls or some of these companies, like someone will make a lot of money on this stuff. But I worry
03:04out there, if you're the investor, if you're the retail and you're sort of following this trend
03:08and you're coming in after these things have made 30 and 40 and 70 and a hundred percent rises,
03:14are you going to be one of those people that's left holding back? You know, they call them bag
03:17holders is the common fin twit term for it because the people that make the money often saw this stuff
03:22much earlier and they got in early and they've ridden that pair. And then someone's going to want to sell
03:27and get out because they know they didn't buy great companies. They were able to take advantage
03:31of sort of a technical inadequacy that exists inside of the structures of these companies and
03:36how their equities are traded. So it's just something I personally wouldn't get near. But it
03:41is worth noting there are retail names, and we truly believe this, that are great companies that
03:46retail has gotten behind and really helped propel. And like I said, I'm in HIMSS, great growth rates.
03:51I'm in SoFi, great growth rates. And retail loves it. They talk about it. These are real companies,
03:55real growth, real products, real services, and real fundamentals. So
04:00at your own risk and do your own research.

Recommended