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  • 18/07/2025
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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Il n'y a pas d'abandon de la façon à partir deir.
06:39J'ai besoin d'un autre forme.
06:41J'ai besoin d'un autre forme,
06:44et un autre forme.
06:46Je ne sais pas pour le dire,
06:49soit vous,
06:53mais vous êtes toujours le même.
06:57J'ai besoin d'un autre forme.
06:59J'ai besoin d'un autre forme,
07:00mais vous êtes toujours l'autre soul.
07:01It's hard to explain
07:07They're talking about you, boy
07:13But you're still the same
07:17Oh, absolutely.
07:19I mean, I'm starting from the beginning
07:21with doing everything in 4K
07:23and I'm doing all the restorations myself.
07:25So I'm doing, it's all coming from me
07:27and you can buy them directly from me
07:30at bynwr.com
07:32I'll sign your box set
07:34and send it off to you.
07:37I am, yeah, I'm a huge fan of 4K
07:40Like, I love 4K
07:42I think 4K is like, oh, amazing
07:45because so many films can be rewatched
07:49with even better quality
07:50and who doesn't want that, you know?
07:53So it's kind of like a new layer of
07:56the new normal for me
07:58so I decided to do all my films in 4K
08:01slowly rolling them out, you know?
08:07I think cinema and television for that matter
08:10has had a very tough time
08:12in the last 10 years or so
08:1410, 15 years
08:15Gaming, social media, VR
08:18canvases are exploding
08:20and they're constantly evolving
08:22because technology is allowing them to evolve
08:24Movies and television
08:26TV is becoming more and more
08:28just content
08:30that you almost look at
08:31while you're doing other things
08:33and movies are still
08:35that window of exclusivity
08:37of the collective experience
08:39but I think that movies
08:41also needs
08:42to re-evaluate themselves
08:44I remember when we were in Cannes
08:46for Only God Forgives
08:47and I, after everyone
08:49had been booing me for so long
08:51during my stay
08:53I did say, look
08:55you can be angry with me
08:57and about my film
08:58but I am from the future
09:01and I'm going to make something
09:02that's going to predict
09:03what it's going to be like
09:05if you want to make films
09:06in the future
09:07and I was right
09:09because right after
09:10Only God Forgives
09:11the industry changed
09:12because of Netflix
09:13Netflix was the game changer
09:15and it changed
09:17not so much what we're making
09:18but it's how we experienced film
09:22and content essentially
09:23how we viewed it
09:24and I think that to justify
09:26or for a movie to exist
09:28in longevity
09:29you have to see
09:31what a film can become
09:33rather than what it used to be
09:34Violence is like sex
09:38it's all about the build-up
09:40Bang, bang
09:41and then it's to the other wall
09:43Now make it dirty, unique, interesting
09:45never seen before in violence
09:46I'm not that strategic
09:52but I will say that
09:54everything is an evolution of something
09:57and there can be a tendency
10:00when something is liked
10:03that everyone wants the same same
10:07but I don't necessarily think that's true
10:09it's better to give them something else
10:12or something different
10:13or something that destroys your past
10:16in order to make something new
10:19it's a transition
10:20you know, obviously the two films
10:22are very different
10:23but what ties them is
10:25myself and Ryan's interaction
10:28however, I find that interesting
10:30it's like taking something
10:32and turning it on its head
10:34it's taking the ultimate superhero
10:36in one movie
10:37and emasculating him in the next
10:39it's taking one movie
10:41that's very poppy
10:42and another movie
10:43that's very esoteric
10:45and that I think
10:47is what makes the world interesting
10:50is that things can become different
10:52it can evolve into other components
10:55rather than just always staying
10:57in the same repeat lane
10:59because you very quickly run out of steam
11:02in my opinion
11:03I was very happy
11:05but obviously
11:06you know, a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and a lot of booing and screaming
11:12but then I was like
11:13that's kind of cool
11:15because then you're like
11:16the sex pistols of cinema
11:18you know, you're like
11:19the one everyone throws bottles at
11:21but you can't deny it existence
11:23you can't really criticize it
11:25because I did it my way
11:27the world will see it
11:29as it continues to evolve
11:31and you just have to be
11:33you have to just to be
11:34trust yourself
11:35so you never lose your vision
11:36when you have that strong reaction
11:38no, on the contrary
11:39you're like
11:40it's like energy
11:41it's like
11:42just wait for the next one
11:43I love that
11:44I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets
11:47about Only God Forgives
11:48I think it's a masterpiece
11:49and it is
11:49I just didn't make it very expensive
11:52is there a doctor in the house?
11:54we need to get a medic in here
11:57is there a doctor around?
11:59when you were mentioning
12:012001
12:02it says in Kane
12:03you forgot to add Drive
12:04we'll let that slip
12:06we won't know about Drive
12:08for another 30 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10whether it lives or dies
12:12I'm talking about films
12:132001 was made in 1968
12:17I made this film
12:19about 4 years ago
12:204 years is a zip
12:21it's not even a blip
12:23it's not a pimple
12:25on the asshole of humanity
12:28what was funny about
12:29talking to Billy Freakin
12:30was that it was
12:31he had a man
12:33who had struggled a lot
12:34in Hollywood
12:35and started very successfully
12:39at a young age
12:40and then gone into sorceress
12:43and you know
12:45was still traumatized
12:47by that experience
12:48after so many years
12:49and I think that was
12:50what was so sad
12:51in a way
12:52that it had such an effect
12:54on him
12:54it was a little bit like
12:55Michael Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate
12:57these amazing films
12:59both Sorcerers
13:01and Heaven's Gate
13:02are probably
13:03their best films
13:04for some reason
13:05get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose
13:09sight of themselves
13:10or they lose
13:11their confidence
13:12and it affects
13:12all the other movies
13:14they make afterwards
13:14and I was like
13:16I'm never going to be like that
13:17because I'm right
13:19you're wrong
13:19I mean I've done two shows
13:26one with Amazon
13:27one with Netflix
13:27and I like what I was making
13:30obviously
13:30but I don't know
13:32how much I want to continue
13:36I may want to take a break
13:38and go and make movies again
13:41I've decided to do more
13:42visual arts
13:44you know
13:45and trying
13:46to find other areas
13:49of creativity
13:50but I think it's time
13:52to go make a film again
13:53you said you work on two shows
13:55but you work on
13:55The Famous Five
13:56or something
13:57The Famous Five
13:58was a television show
14:00that I just
14:01how do you say
14:02executive produced
14:03or created
14:04but I had no
14:05involvement in it
14:06otherwise
14:07I just created
14:08the kind of concept
14:09and the story
14:10based on these
14:11very famous books
14:12The Famous Five
14:13was more because
14:13my kids would read the books
14:15when they were young
14:16I remember my mother
14:17reading me the books
14:18so it was more like
14:19a past history thing
14:21that came up
14:22as an opportunity
14:23Well I mean
14:28if something is interesting
14:29you know
14:30why not look at it
14:31I've had some wonderful
14:32meetings in Hollywood
14:33met wonderful people
14:35but in the end
14:36I like my freedom
14:37that's all I really want
14:39is just to be free
14:40When you work in Hollywood
14:42there is a contract
14:44some people love that
14:45and can work within that
14:47it's maybe not
14:49so much my thing
14:50right now
14:51but who knows
14:51maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big
14:53you know
14:55big superhero movie
14:56that could be fun
14:59maybe
14:59I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open
15:01to anything
15:01but at the same time
15:02at the end
15:03you should just
15:04make what makes you happy
15:05It's one thing
15:06having creative control
15:08which is
15:08easier enough
15:10but it's where
15:11all the money
15:12that's invested
15:13puts a burden
15:15on you
15:15because all that money
15:17has to get
15:17recouped
15:19and then you have to
15:19make a certain
15:20type of movie
15:21you don't have the
15:22freedom to do
15:23whatever you want
15:23because you're
15:24a slave to the
15:26economics
15:26if your film
15:27costs 200 million
15:28dollars or 100 million
15:30dollars
15:30you need to make
15:31300-400 million
15:32dollars to break even
15:33that already puts
15:34a strain on what
15:35kind of movie
15:35can you make
15:36and I don't want
15:37any conditions
15:39on me
15:39at all
15:41you have to be
15:42completely free
15:43I mean in the
15:48beginning a lot
15:49of people were
15:50talking about
15:50another drive
15:51but it was like
15:52that would be
15:53the worst idea
15:54I've ever heard of
15:55so never
15:56never
15:57I've been very
16:06lucky to live
16:07a fun life
16:09and
16:10it has nothing
16:12to do with fame
16:13you realize
16:15very quickly
16:16it has
16:17that I've had
16:18opportunities
16:19and I've been able
16:20to work with people
16:21I've met people
16:23I've spoken with people
16:24and
16:25it's all been
16:26a lot of fun
16:27but I think
16:28when I started
16:29the idea of being
16:31seen
16:32was very essential
16:33the idea of fame
16:34and fame being
16:36it's like
16:37an opportunity
16:38it's like
16:38a stage
16:39one thing is becoming
16:40famous
16:41the next
16:42what are you going to do
16:42with it
16:43and obviously
16:44it's like anything
16:45it's an opportunity
16:46I'll see
16:47I'll have to
16:47I can't
16:48I'll have to
16:49love you
16:50I'll have to
16:51I can't
16:51I'll have to
16:51work
16:52I'll have to
16:53I also
16:53work
16:54I'll have to
16:55I'll have to
16:55I'll have to
16:55I'll have to
16:56I'll have to
16:57we've got here
16:59Bangkok
16:59in 6 months
17:00and wilt
17:01Yang
17:01will
17:01make
17:02film
17:02and I've
17:03said
17:03yeah
17:03to film
17:04process
17:04it's
17:05it's
17:06great
17:06that we
17:07are
17:07together
17:08when he
17:09filming
17:09him
17:10when he
17:11laved drive
17:11I was
17:12home
17:12in Denmark
17:13J'ai été élevé de les enfants.
17:15Mais j'ai été élevé de 10 mois.
17:17Et c'est vraiment difficile à être élevé de les deux autres.
17:21Ma vieillesse est une routine.
17:23J'ai réveillé.
17:24Je fais deux heures de sport.
17:27J'ai généralement j'ai l'air.
17:29J'ai généralement j'ai l'air.
17:31J'ai l'air.
17:33J'ai l'air.
17:35J'ai l'air.
17:37J'ai l'air.
17:39J'ai l'air.
17:41J'ai l'air.
17:43J'ai l'air.
17:45J'ai l'air.
17:47J'ai l'air.
17:49Tu regardes les films ?
17:51J'ai l'air quand j'étais peu plus jeune.
17:53Maintenant il y a plus d'un truc.
17:55Il y a autre chose que j'ai intéressant.
17:57Quoi ?
17:59J'ai fait mon premier expérience.
18:01Il a fallu beaucoup de choses.
18:05Comment ça ?
18:07Je parlais de cette expérience.
18:09J'ai créé une expérience qui a créé l'expérience d'après-midi, en Tokyo, où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma mère et ma fille dans la procession.
18:24Hé, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:32Wait !
18:34Don't leave without me !
18:42No !
18:43Don't go !
18:45Please !
18:46Don't go !
18:48And you are in Death Stranding 2.
18:51I am Heart Man, and Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding.
18:55I think that, don't believe everything you read on the internet.
19:04Okay, can you tease us something ?
19:05Well, believe everything you read on the internet.
19:07Ah, okay.
19:08We're going to see a beautiful film.
19:20We're going to see a beautiful film.
19:38for more, we're going to see a beautiful film on the internet.
19:39I wish you all, I speak...
19:40There are many new films, but I will tell you how to do it.
19:42I'm, perhaps, a beautiful film.
19:43Sure.
19:44We're going to see a beautiful film.
19:45I don't know how to do that.
19:46Let's have an improvement.
19:47I don't know what I am.
19:48It doesn't know what I am.
19:49It doesn't know what I am, man.
19:50It doesn't know what we are doing.
19:51So this is my, I don't know what I am.
19:53I can't see-tune a beautiful film.
19:54I don't know what I am.
19:56I can't see a beautiful film.
19:58And I ask myself.
19:59This is a beautiful film.
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