00:00And politically too, Mr. President, their role has played.
00:02And what do you say to this man, whom you know well,
00:05who was one of your close friends, he was even your Minister of the Interior.
00:07No, but don't pillory him.
00:09This man is Christophe Castaner, and today he works for China.
00:13He is a strategic advisor in France for the Chinese brand.
00:16Is there anything bothering you?
00:17What you're doing is kind of lame.
00:18No, it's not bad.
00:19It's a bit rubbish, I tell you, compared to the debate.
00:21Sorry, that's a legitimate question.
00:22He was Minister of the Interior, today he works for China.
00:24That's true, but okay, but he was Minister of the Interior X years ago.
00:27He is now a free man, he has given a lot of his time and energy to public affairs.
00:31Yes, no, because he is at the same time president of the Grand Port of Marseille,
00:34so he was with me to help electrify and decarbonize the Grand Port of Marseille.
00:36And about China, you didn't talk about it with yourself?
00:38I didn't talk about it, because it's his life, not mine.
00:39And just because he's from China doesn't mean it's going to change anything on the public highway.
00:43Well, you're saying that we have to fight against China and against the Chinese way.
00:45I say that everyone...
00:46There is one of your old followers who works for them.
00:48No, but really, if you want to put people in the pillory, which is what you're actually doing...
00:51These are not people in the pillory!
00:52Well, if you pass his image on the screen...
00:54We ask the question!
00:54I just find it pointless compared to the debate.
00:56He's a former Minister of State, he now works for a fast fashion game, it's legitimate to ask the question.
01:01We have a high authority on transparency in public life,
01:03which is already, compared to all the countries of the world,
01:06which means that all ministers, all parliamentarians, all mayors, all those who serve the Republic,
01:10It is very complicated for them to return to a normal life in their sector of activity.
01:14And then, for many of them, it's very hard to find a job.
01:16Do you think he had no choice?
01:17No, but I didn't have the discussion with him.
01:20But I'm not here to judge him.
01:22And so I don't want to get into this somewhat stigmatizing and somewhat personal debate.
01:26I think the debates deserve better than that, if you will allow me.
01:29And there you have it.
01:30I don't like these methods.
01:31You say it must be done.
01:32I tell you that too.
01:33Ah, that's a legitimate question.
01:34But your questions are legitimate, my answers are just as valid.
01:37So I say...
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