00:00I'd say he's an assassin, but he's a tough guy.
00:03It's been proven over the years.
00:04He's fooled a lot of people.
00:06He fooled Bush.
00:07He fooled a lot of people.
00:08He fooled Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden.
00:11He didn't fool me.
00:12But what I do say is that at a certain point, you know, ultimately talk doesn't talk.
00:19It's got to be action.
00:20It's got to be results.
00:22My conversations with him are always very pleasant.
00:25I say, isn't that a very lovely conversation?
00:27And then the missiles go off that night.
00:30We talked about it.
00:31It was the apple of his eye, but it wasn't going to happen.
00:34And he understood that.
00:35It wasn't going to happen.
00:36And then I noticed after I was out, I noticed soldiers forming at the border.
00:41I spoke with Germany, spoke with most of the larger countries.
00:47And they are really enthusiastic about this.
00:50They want to.
00:50And, you know, they're willing to go very far.
00:52I will tell you, you know, as per your question, how far would I go?
00:55They want to go very far.
00:57They don't want this to happen.
00:58And that's why I think, from Putin's standpoint, it would really be good.
01:01He gets the country, his economy is doing very poorly.
01:04And he's got to get his economy back.
01:06He's got to save his economy.
01:08He could save his country, in a sense.
01:10But the economy can destroy.
01:12It's destroyed a lot of countries over the years.
01:14He wants to get that economy back.
01:16And, you know, he's got a great country for trading and other things.
01:19If they could use the assets instead of war, he's got some tremendous potential.
01:23That's what I would say.
01:24How did you go over this news to Putin, sir?
01:26Say it?
01:27How did you tell Putin this was happening?
01:29I speak to him a lot about getting this thing done.
01:35And I always hang up and say, well, that was a nice phone call.
01:38And then missiles launched into Kiev or some other city.
01:42And I say, it's strange.
01:43And after that happens, three or four times, you see, the talk doesn't mean anything.
01:49My conversations with him are always very pleasant.
01:52I say, isn't that a very lovely conversation?
01:55And then the missiles go off that night.
01:57I go home.
01:58I tell the first lady, you know, I spoke to Vladimir today.
02:01We had a wonderful conversation.
02:03She said, oh, really?
02:05Another city was just hit.
02:07So it's like, look, he's, I don't want to say he's an assassin, but he's a tough guy.
02:15It's been proven over the years.
02:16He's fooled a lot of people.
02:18He fooled Bush.
02:19He fooled a lot of people.
02:20He fooled Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden.
02:23He didn't fool me.
02:24But what I do say is that at a certain point, you know, ultimately talk doesn't talk.
02:31It's got to be action.
02:32It's got to be results.
02:34And I hope he does it.
02:37It's potentially such a great country to be wasting so many people on this and the money.
02:46And look at what's happened to his economy.
02:48Look at what's happened.
02:50And with the threat in 50 days, the economy will be hit very hard.
02:54I mean, look, I hope he's going to do it.
02:56He knows the deal.
02:59He knows what a fair deal is.
03:02If there is such a thing as a fair deal, there's no winners here.
03:06This is a loser.
03:08This is a loser.
03:09And I dealt with him from the beginning.
03:11It wouldn't have happened.
03:12But I will say, Ukraine was the apple of his eye.
03:15We talk about it.
03:17It was the apple of his eye.
03:18But it wasn't going to happen.
03:20And he understood that.
03:21It wasn't going to happen.
03:21And then I noticed after I was out, I noticed soldiers forming at the border.
03:27And then I heard horrible, stupid things being said from the other side.
03:33And I said, they're really handling it very, very wrong.
03:37It's a shame.
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