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During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing last month, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) spoke about the United States' domestic munitions industrial base.
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00:00Senator Cotton.
00:01Gentlemen, congratulations on your nominations.
00:03Thank you to your families for their sacrifices over the year.
00:06And most important, thank you to the men and women you represent in your organizations
00:09and will represent for their service as well.
00:11I want to commend you both and commend everyone who was involved in the exceptionally successful mission
00:18against Iran over the weekend.
00:20Admiral Cooper, I want to return to a brief point you made with Senator Wicker.
00:24Senator Wicker, although we have dealt a massive setback to Iran's nuclear threat,
00:32which is the worst kind of threat they could pose to us,
00:35Iran still poses a severe threat to our troops and to Americans around the world, right?
00:40They do.
00:40They possess considerable tactical capability, one element of which we saw yesterday,
00:47which we thwarted in Defense of Allied Edeed Air Base.
00:49And as the next commander of Central Command, one of your top priorities will be
00:57to continue the aggressive defensive posture and to continue the deterrence
01:03that's now been reestablished against Iran to defend our troops in the region
01:06as well as all of our friends in the region, Israel and the Arab nations.
01:10Absolutely, sir.
01:11It would be an important priority, deterring Iran in process.
01:14And I know that President Trump is mindful about this,
01:16that just because they had a very weak response yesterday,
01:18which they telegraphed in advance, doesn't mean that there might not be another response
01:23in a day or a week or a month or a year or three years.
01:26And it could be missiles or rockets against our troops,
01:28or it could be trying to blow up an embassy around the world
01:31or targeting American citizens for terrorist attacks,
01:34something that we have to be constantly on guard against
01:36because Iran has been terrorizing America in the civilized world for 46 years.
01:40Is that right?
01:42Completely agree, sir.
01:43We've got to be in a three-point stance, ready to go every single day.
01:46And at bottom, Iran didn't become a terrorist state
01:50because the United States bombed their nuclear bunkers.
01:54The United States bombed their nuclear bunkers because they're a terrorist state.
01:57Is that right?
01:58I would agree.
02:00The strikes over the weekend showed the importance
02:04of having the world's very best industrial base and best munitions.
02:08The first time those had been employed in combat operations.
02:12They were incredibly successful.
02:14But the wars, both in the Middle East since October 7th and in Ukraine,
02:19as I'll show, revealed the fragility of munitions production in this country
02:23and the defense industry.
02:26Would you agree that we need to do a lot more to increase capacity
02:29for our munitions industrial base?
02:32I would, sir.
02:33It's an area of significant concern.
02:34I know this area that senior DOD leadership is focused on right now.
02:39It's not a new issue.
02:40It's been around for some time.
02:42But clearly, it's one we need to focus on right now.
02:44And General Grinkowicz, I assume both in your current role in the joint staff
02:47and also your anticipated role in Europe, you would agree as well
02:51that we need to significantly expand munitions production in this country?
02:55Senator, I would.
02:56As the director for operations on the joint staff with the responsibility,
03:01along with my colleagues in logistics and sustainment,
03:03for managing those munitions and pushing them to the fight,
03:05I'm acutely aware of some of the limitations that we have.
03:08And if confirmed, I would continue to advocate for strong investment
03:11on both sides of the Atlantic and the industrial base.
03:14And our industrial base includes our defense contractors,
03:18companies that make this in the private sector,
03:20but it also includes our organic industrial base within the department.
03:25And given the track record over the last three years,
03:27would you agree that we really need an all-of-the-above strategy?
03:30We need to push both the private sector and lean on the assets we already have
03:34in the Department of Defense to produce the munitions our warfighters need?
03:38Senator, I would.
03:39The organic industrial base does need that investment and attention.
03:43And on the private sector side, I would say we need to focus
03:46not just on traditional prime contractors,
03:48but also expand the competitive space to new entrants
03:51to get as much production capacity as possible.
03:54Admiral Cooper, I think I saw you vigorously nodding your head in agreement.
03:57Would you like to state that for the record?
03:58Absolutely.
03:59I think the characterization of an all-of-the-above strategy
04:02is the appropriate characterization.
04:04Okay.
04:06The operation last weekend, I guess a couple Thursdays ago in Iran,
04:11with the use of drones launched from inside the country,
04:14as well as a few weeks ago by Ukraine inside Russia,
04:18has revealed once again the threat that drones can pose
04:21to our bases here in the United States.
04:24And I've worked with Senator Gillibrand and a lot of other senators
04:26to address that threat here in the U.S.,
04:28and we're going to try to pass legislation to expand the department's authorities on it.
04:32But, General Grinkowicz, it's also a real threat in Europe,
04:35the prospect of NATO or American positions being attacked by drones,
04:40as we saw in Iran or as we saw in Ukraine.
04:43How do you assess the drone threat right now in the European theater?
04:46Senator, I think it's an acute threat.
04:48It's a new technology, and our investment in both counter-U.S. capability
04:53and the ability to do the same sort of activities with our own drones
04:56needs vigorous attention.
04:59I agree it's an acute threat.
05:01If Israel can do it to Iran, if Ukraine can do it to Russia,
05:03we need to assume that the bad guys could do it to us and our troops and our bases as well,
05:08whether overseas or even here at home.
05:09And we need to counteract it rapidly.
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