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00:00The guy can swing, throw lefts, rights, and it can hit you.
00:03Guys, I'm not an expert, I was scared.
00:05He would get 3 or 4 on a guy, he would knock him out, the guy would get back up.
00:09Good evening, guys, I hope you're doing well and welcome to a question for a local.
00:15Can a human being trained to fight beat anyone on the street who isn't trained?
00:20That's the question we're all going to answer tonight, obviously.
00:24Can a trained guy smoke anyone who isn't trained on the street?
00:27On the street, it's important to clarify why I asked myself this question and,
00:32I came across a video of a guy, an English boxer, I think, who runs a club in Marseille.
00:38And who said, so, if you run into me on the street and you've never done any combat sports,
00:44you have zero chance of beating me.
00:47Actually, I find that way too simplistic.
00:50It's way too easy to say, because you're not trained and I am, you have no chance of beating me.
00:55So, maybe in a ring, he won't have a chance of beating you,
00:59whether it's by chaos or by points or by decision and so on and so forth,
01:03but in the street, anything goes.
01:06So, to which that person replied, yes, but the boxer or in any case, the trained person,
01:12he too has the right to all the blows, of course, but let's start with the basics.
01:16Why do we practice a combat sport or a martial art?
01:19Basically, it's not to break people's mouths, right?
01:22It's not because Abdaz, Matis, Mathieu or Jean-Louis David, he's a real jerk.
01:28He stole your snack that doesn't mean you're going to get hit straight away.
01:30No, it doesn't happen like that.
01:32Generally, it's to perhaps fill a lack of self-confidence or simply to learn a new discipline
01:37and open up to the world.
01:38Basically, for me, for example, when I started doing combat sports,
01:43it was mainly to have more self-confidence.
01:46And then I was thirsty to learn.
01:47I followed K1, cried, then the UFC and I thought to myself, why not me?
01:54But I also want to fight, but I love fighting.
01:57Fighting in the morning, fighting in the afternoon, fighting in the evening.
02:00And I wanted to know if it was as easy to watch, to see as it was to practice.
02:05No, oh no, it's nothing like that.
02:08Oh, I told you with a no spoiler, it's nothing like that.
02:10As a fan of Steven Seigel, Jet Li, Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris and so on,
02:16it was in my bloodline that I practiced a combat sport or a martial art.
02:19So I started with Pancras.
02:21Well, that's what it was called at the time, but now it's called MMA.
02:24And in your head, you think, oh, there's a guy who annoys me, training, not training.
02:30At first, you're like that, but things don't go at all as you had planned.
02:35The first few days, I had a massage and I was blown away.
02:38I came back from training and I felt like a 48,000 ton train had passed over me.
02:43I was so exhausted, I walked here and then I left.
02:47But you know the walk back after training when you walk home.
02:51Once, I thought I was going to die.
02:53To tell you the truth, I came home, I didn't even wash, I went straight to sleep.
02:56Oh yeah, I was filthy but at least I was alive.
02:59I really thought I was going to die.
03:00I was dead, washed up, you name it.
03:03But to get back to the subject, you don't train.
03:05You don't learn a combat sport, a martial art to show off, to show off, to beat people
03:10up in the street because it has nothing to do with it.
03:14What I would say to that person is that the comfort of the dojo, the comfort of the ring,
03:18the gloves, the rules, the protege, the guards, etc, etc, has nothing to do with the danger
03:25of a street fight.
03:27I'm going to exaggerate, but if you come across a nervous guy who's never trained, that's what's
03:32going on in his head.
03:33He has no concept of danger.
03:35It's like a 2 or 3 year old child, you know, he's going to play with toys that he shouldn't.
03:38He's going to hit people, he's going to slam doors because for him, danger doesn't exist.
03:42And well, for someone who's never fought in their life, it's the same thing.
03:46They don't understand danger.
03:48So from the moment you don't understand something, you're not aware of it.
03:51So when you say danger, you mean fear.
03:53But since he doesn't see the danger, he's not afraid.
03:56Since he's full of confidence, full of nerves, full of whatever you want, he goes headlong.
04:00What's paradoxical is that a pro in any discipline, you take a pro in poker, in boxing, in video
04:06games and so on, will always have trouble with a beginner.
04:09Why?
04:10Because the beginner, the uninitiated in fact, has no logic in execution.
04:15In fact, he goes by instinct.
04:17And since he goes by instinct, it's completely random.
04:20In the street, what could that translate into?
04:22Big hooks, headbutts, elbows, whatever comes through his head, he throws it at you.
04:27Do you see what he means or not?
04:30So it's hard to anticipate something that can't be anticipated, something that doesn't
04:34make sense.
04:36You can be trained, but training doesn't mean anything.
04:39I'll tell you straight away.
04:40I have guys who, even after 5 years of training, have never competed.
04:44So we call them the soldiers of the dojo, the champions of the dojo.
04:48For example, you have guys who are really hot during training.
04:51Okay?
04:51They're really hot during training.
04:53They beat everyone up.
04:54The day it's competition time, they're exhausted.
04:57Why?
04:58Why?
04:59Stress, adrenaline.
05:01So, you take a guy who is a champion in his gym and you put him out on the street, but
05:06it's going to be the same, he's going to be blocked by stress, adrenaline.
05:10That's how it is.
05:11For some people, stress is a hindrance and for others it's a catalyst.
05:16That's something that will motivate you.
05:17And we have examples of that.
05:19We have FC champions, Big Pen, he got washed out, champion, ex-FC champion, he got knocked
05:25out.
05:26Or yes, okay, it's not his discipline and so on.
05:29B-Pen English boxing is not bad even if it comes from the ground.
05:32We won't go into details, you see, but I can find you plenty of examples.
05:36Personally, I knew the French Pancras champion from 2009 or 2010.
05:41I don't remember.
05:42I think that's when I started.
05:43He told me once that he got into a fight in the street, so to speak, and the guy grabbed
05:49him by the neck and punched him, but he didn't do anything.
05:52He told me, I didn't feel capable, I don't know, I was stuck, I was scared.
05:57He didn't do anything.
05:58French champion, we're not talking about a guy who's just started or who's been around
06:01for 6 months.
06:02French champion, I'm willing to admit that you've been training for 10 years, 20 years,
06:06and so on.
06:07It doesn't mean anything.
06:08It doesn't mean anything.
06:09Look, I'm talking about guys who've been training for 10 years, and on the day of the competition,
06:12they're crushed to the ground.
06:14Zero stress management.
06:15And that's what makes the difference in the street.
06:17It's stress management and aggression.
06:19In the street.
06:20That's it guys, I'm not an expert.
06:22I've almost never fought in the street because, uh, because I run fast and I don't like fights.
06:27That's it, quite simply.
06:29I don't like fights.
06:30So to answer this person, no.
06:32Someone who is not a practitioner, not initiated, will have chances against you.
06:37Sure, it might not be 5050, but it won't be zero chances.
06:40Don't think that just because you've done 4, 5, 6, 10 years of English boxing that the
06:45day there's a haja, or a fight in the street, you're 100% sure to win.
06:49It doesn't happen like that.
06:50Okay, we're not even talking about firearms or knives here.
06:53No, we're really just talking about, uh, mano a mano, you see, aggression, uh, surprise.
06:59You know, people are traitorous in the street.
07:01When you start a boxing match, there's a referee, you fight, you put up your guard and off you
07:04go.
07:04But when it's a street fight, the guy talks to you and all of a sudden, it starts all of a
07:07sudden.
07:08Do you think he's going to warn you?
07:09He's going to say, okay, are you ready?
07:10Do you think it's like grappling?
07:11Do you shake hands after the fight?
07:12Quote, no, it's not like that.
07:14So I don't know what you think.
07:15Tell me, tell me in the comments.
07:17But I think that someone who is not initiated will be much more dangerous than someone who
07:21is, so to speak, a pro or at least someone who is used to, so to speak, training in the
07:26gym.
07:27Because I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you again, someone who doesn't have
07:31the skills has no concept of danger.
07:33So she's going to bend down for herself.
07:34There's no risk of death or anything, because the person in question here, she's a boxer.
07:39But we know very well that in the street, there are what are called lucky shots.
07:42That is to say, the guy can swing, throw lefts, rights, and it can hit you, it can hit you,
07:47it can surprise you, it can hit you.
07:49Again, you tell me, you see on the ground, grappling, submission, you can't submit someone
07:53by surprise, by chance, by luck, it's not possible.
07:56But since the person here is talking about boxing, I'm telling you that a lucky shot, a lucky blow,
08:00it can happen, you can get knocked out.
08:02But the problem is if you get knocked out, you don't fall on a mat or in a ring, you fall
08:06on the sidewalk, on the asphalt.
08:08And once you're knocked out, do you think the referee is going to come?
08:10No, Roy, no, the referee is a chill, he's sleeping there with his wife.
08:13That's the danger, actually.
08:15You see, to answer this question, does an untrained person stand a chance against a
08:20trained person?
08:21Or can a trained person beat anyone in the street?
08:24The answer is no.
08:26The answer is no because the street, the dojo and competition are completely different
08:31things.
08:32We can very well make a connection between the three.
08:36A gym champion, a competition champion can indeed beat someone in the street, but it's
08:41not automatic.
08:42It depends on each person's stress management.
08:44It depends on each person's temperament.
08:46There are some who don't like fighting in the street.
08:48There are some who find it disgusting.
08:50Well, maybe not Bruce Lee.
08:51Bruce Lee was the opposite.
08:52I don't know if you know the anecdotes about Bruce Lee.
08:54When Bruce Lee was learning a new technique from his master to see if it was effective,
08:58he would go out and go to a construction site and provoke some workers, some pretty big guys
09:02who were used to it, and he would beat them up.
09:04There you go, that was Bruce Lee.
09:06There you go.
09:07Well, that's why I like him.
09:08Imagine, look, you're hitting 3 8s, you're there, it's 5 in the afternoon, it's 45 degrees
09:13Celsius, you're sweating, there's a guy, he's 1.70 meters tall, 60 kilograms all wet.
09:17He tells you he wants to try a technique.
09:19Well, he doesn't tell you that.
09:20He just confuses you.
09:22And you there, go and do it for free.
09:23You arrive, he wants to hit 110 and he beats you up.
09:27Well, that was Bruce Lee.
09:28To actually get back to the history of the street, I think it's a fairly sterile, fairly
09:31closed debate, but we can come back to the history of weight categories.
09:34I can give you examples and counter examples, there's no problem.
09:36When you practice a combat sport or a martial art, you have weight categories, which makes
09:40sense.
09:41I don't know, 50, 60, 70.
09:43It depends on the sport or martial art you practice.
09:45Of course, in the street, you're not going to choose the opponent you're going to fight,
09:49right?
09:49You don't say, oh, you weigh 110 kilograms?
09:52No, no problem.
09:53Well, I don't have any.
09:55Well, sometimes you have to fight with people who are either heavier or lighter than you,
09:58and that can be complicated.
10:00It doesn't mean that someone who's heavier will necessarily hit harder.
10:03No, but if the guy brings you to the ground, 110 kilograms, that's 110 kilograms, that's
10:08110 kilograms of, so to speak, fat or muscle, 110 kilograms, they're definitely not.
10:13You know what I mean?
10:14He's suffocating you, even if he doesn't know how to do it.
10:17Just supporting his weight with the stress, the adrenaline, it's complicated.
10:21You see, there's the weight, there's the size to take into account, the aggressiveness
10:25and also, here, we have to talk about his level of intoxication.
10:29Because a guy who drinks, a guy who puts stuff up his nose, a guy who injects stuff, a guy
10:33who, you know what I mean, they have a certain resistance to pain.
10:36I was told about guys in my room who were bouncers in nightclubs and so on, and they
10:40would get on a guy three or four at a time, knock him out, and the guy would get back up.
10:43They would knock him out again, and the guy would get back up.
10:45They would say, wow, wait, what did he eat?
10:48Well, he hadn't eaten, he had snorted.
10:49You know what I mean?
10:50So once again, a trained person, an untrained person, etc., will have every chance against
10:55a champion of whatever kind because there are parameters and circumstances that are undeniable
10:59and that are there.
11:00Aggression, the level of intoxication that strikes first, each person's motivation.
11:05So there you have it, I hope I've at least answered this question a little bit.
11:09Tell me what you think in the comments because honestly, I'm interested.
11:12Do you think a trained guy can smoke anyone who's not trained, huh?
11:16And if so, why?
11:17And if not, why not?
11:19Honestly, it would be interesting to talk about it in the comments.
11:21In the meantime, take care of yourself.
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11:26And then we'll see you next time.
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