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  • 07/07/2025
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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Je devrais faire un petit peu enfance.
06:40J'ai besoin de t'entendre.
06:41Il n'est plus en moi.
06:43Il n'est plus en moi.
06:45J'ai besoin d'exprimer.
06:49Le n'est plus en moi.
06:54J'ai besoin d'un peu en moi.
11:37Non, au contraire, c'est comme énergie, c'est comme, juste attendre le prochain.
11:43Ha ha, j'adore ça.
11:44Je suis comme toi, je n'ai pas de regrets, mais je pense que c'est une masterpiece, et c'est.
11:50Je n'ai pas fait que c'est très expensive.
11:52Est-ce qu'il y a un docteur dans la maison ?
11:54Nous avons besoin d'un medic ici.
11:57Est-ce qu'il y a un docteur ?
12:00Quand tu parlais de 2001, c'est qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a qu'il y a.
12:06Nous ne savons pas de drive pour un autre 30 ans.
12:0930 secondes.
12:10Whether it lives or dies.
12:12I'm talking about films, 2001 was made in 1968.
12:17I made this film about 4 years ago.
12:194 years is a zip.
12:21It's not even a blip.
12:23It's not a pimple on the asshole of humanity.
12:27What was funny about talking to Billy Friedkin was that he had a man who had struggled a lot in Hollywood.
12:35And started very successfully at a young age.
12:41And then gone into Sorceress.
12:43And was still traumatized by that experience after so many years.
12:49And I think that was what was so sad in a way.
12:52That it had such an effect on him.
12:54It was a little bit like Michael Cimino doing Heaven's Gate.
12:57These amazing films.
12:59Both Sorceress and Heaven's Gate are probably their best films.
13:04which for some reason get so destroyed.
13:07And then they lose sight of themselves.
13:10Or they lose their confidence.
13:12And it affects all the other movies they make afterwards.
13:14And I was like, I'm never going to be like that.
13:17Because I'm right.
13:18You're wrong.
13:19I mean I've done two shows.
13:25One with Amazon.
13:26One with Netflix.
13:27And I like what I was making obviously.
13:30But I don't know how much I want to continue.
13:35I may want to take a break.
13:37And go and make movies again.
13:40I've decided to do more visual arts.
13:44You know.
13:45And trying to find other areas of creativity.
13:50But I think it's time to go make a film again.
13:53You said you work on two shows.
13:54But you work on The Famous Five or something.
13:57So The Famous Five was a television show.
14:00that I just, how do you say, executive produced or created.
14:04But I had no involvement in it.
14:06Otherwise I just created the kind of concept and the story.
14:10Based on these very famous books.
14:12The Famous Five was more because my kids would read the books when they were young.
14:16I remember my mother reading me the books.
14:18So it was more like a past history thing that came up as an opportunity.
14:23Well, I mean, if anything, if something is interesting, you know, why not look at it.
14:30I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood.
14:33Met wonderful people.
14:34But in the end, I like my freedom.
14:37That's all I really want.
14:39It's just to be free.
14:40When you work in Hollywood, there is a contract.
14:43Some people love that and can work within that.
14:46It's maybe not so much my thing right now.
14:50But who knows, maybe next year I'll do a big, you know, big superhero movie.
14:56That could be fun maybe.
14:58I don't know.
14:59I'm pretty open to anything.
15:01But at the same time, at the end, you should just make what makes you happy.
15:05It's one thing having creative control, which is easier enough.
15:10But it's where all the money that's invested puts a burden on you.
15:15Because all that money has to get, you know, recouped.
15:18And then you have to make a certain type of movie.
15:21You don't have the freedom to do whatever you want, because you're a slave to the economics.
15:26If your film costs $200 million or $100 million, you need to make $300, $400 million to break even.
15:32That already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make.
15:36And I don't want any conditions on me at all.
15:41You have to be completely free.
15:47I mean, in the beginning, a lot of people were talking about another drive.
15:51But it was like, that would be the worst idea I've ever heard of.
15:55So never?
15:56Never.
15:57I've been very lucky to live a fun life.
16:09And it has nothing to do with fame.
16:14You realize very quickly.
16:16It has that I've had opportunities.
16:19And I've been able to work with people.
16:21I've met people.
16:22I've spoken with people.
16:24And it's all been a lot of fun.
16:27But I think when I started, the idea of being seen was very essential.
16:33The idea of fame.
16:34And fame being an opportunity.
16:37It's like an opportunity.
16:38It's like a stage.
16:39One thing is becoming famous.
16:41The next, what are you going to do with it?
16:43And obviously, it's like anything.
16:45It's an opportunity.
16:47I don't have any love.
16:49You have to work all the time.
16:52I also want to work.
16:54I also want to work.
16:58We're going to be here in Bangkok for 6 months.
17:00Yang will make his next film.
17:02And I've said yes to the film process.
17:05It's new to be with him when he's filming.
17:09When he started driving, I was home in Denmark with the children.
17:13And it took over 10 months.
17:15And it was just too hard to be away from each other.
17:21My daily life is, I have a routine.
17:23I wake up.
17:24I do two hours sports every day.
17:27Then I usually have lunch.
17:29Then I get yelled at by my kids.
17:32I work at night.
17:34And then try not to get to bed too late.
17:39And then Friday comes and it's weekend.
17:42And you try to relax a little more.
17:45And the next day is Monday.
17:47You watch movies?
17:48I used to watch a lot of movies when I was a lot younger.
17:52But now it's just harder and harder.
17:54There's other things that I find interesting.
17:56Like what?
17:57Well, I did my first exhibition that just opened in Tokyo.
18:02And that's been a lot of fun to do that.
18:04A collaboration with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Yeah.
18:07Can you talk about that?
18:08Well, I created an exhibition that opened Friday last week in Tokyo.
18:16Where I built this installation between us.
18:20I saw my wife and my daughter in the procession.
18:23Hey!
18:24It's me!
18:31Where are you going?
18:32Wait!
18:38Don't leave without me!
18:41No!
18:43Don't go!
18:45Please!
18:46Don't go!
18:48And you are in Death Stranding too.
18:50Also.
18:51I am Heart Man.
18:52And Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding.
19:00I think that don't believe everything you read on the internet.
19:03Okay.
19:04Can you tease us something?
19:05Well, believe everything you read on the internet.
19:07Ah, okay.
19:08Ha ha ha ha.
19:10Ha ha ha.
19:15Lise?
19:16No?
19:17We're going to see a beautiful film.
19:18You're going to see a beautiful movie.