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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Je n'ai pas d'indinken à vers ton autre.
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10:02Liked, that
10:03Everyone
10:04Wants the same, same
10:07But I don't necessarily think that's true
10:09It's better to give them something else
10:12Or something different
10:13Or something that destroys your past
10:16In order to make
10:17Something new, to transition
10:20You know, obviously the two films
10:22Are very different
10:23But what ties them is
10:25Myself and Ryan's interaction
10:28However, I find that
10:30Interesting, it's like taking
10:32Something and turning it on its head
10:34It's taking the ultimate superhero
10:36In one movie and
10:37Emasculating him in the next
10:39It's taking one movie that's very poppy
10:42And another movie that's very
10:44Esoteric
10:45And that, I think, is
10:48What makes the world interesting
10:50Is that things can become
10:51Different, it can evolve into
10:54Other components
10:55Rather than just always staying in the same
10:58Repeat lane
10:59Because you very quickly run out of steam
11:02In my opinion
11:03I was, I was very happy
11:05But obviously
11:06You know, a lot of harsh reactions
11:09And a lot of booing and screaming
11:12But then I was like
11:13That's kind of cool
11:15Because then you're like
11:16Sex pistols of cinema
11:18You know, you're like
11:19The one everyone throws bottles at
11:21But you can't deny it existence
11:23You can't really criticize it
11:25Because I did it my way
11:27The world will see it
11:29As it continues to evolve
11:31And you just have to be
11:33You have to just to be
11:34Trust yourself
11:35So you never lose your vision
11:36When you have that strong reaction?
11:39No, on the contrary
11:39You're like
11:40It's like energy
11:41It's like
11:42Just wait for the next one
11:43I love that
11:44I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets
11:47About Only God Forgives
11:48I think it's a masterpiece
11:49And it is
11:49I just didn't make it very expensive
11:52Is there a doctor in the house?
11:54We need to get a medic in here
11:57Is there a doctor around?
12:00When you were mentioning 2001
12:02It says, I think, Kane
12:03You forgot to add Drive
12:04But we'll let that slip
12:06We won't know about Drive
12:08For another 30 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10Whether it lives or dies
12:12I'm talking about films
12:132001 was made in 1968
12:17I made this film
12:19About four years ago
12:20Four years is a zip
12:21It's not even a blip
12:23It's not a pimple
12:25On the asshole of humanity
12:28What was funny about
12:29Talking to Billy Freakin
12:30Was that it was
12:31He had a man
12:33Who had struggled a lot
12:34In Hollywood
12:35And started very successfully
12:39At a young age
12:40And then gone into sorceress
12:43And was still traumatized
12:47By that experience
12:48After so many years
12:49And I think that was
12:50What was so sad
12:51In a way
12:52That it had such an effect
12:54On him
12:54It's a little bit like
12:55Michael Cimino
12:56Doing Heaven's Gate
12:57These amazing films
12:59Both Sorcerers
13:01And Heaven's Gate
13:02Are probably their best films
13:04For some reason
13:05Get so destroyed
13:07And then they lose
13:09Sight of themselves
13:10Or they lose their confidence
13:12And it affects
13:12All the other movies
13:14They make afterwards
13:15And I was like
13:16I'm never going to be like that
13:17Because I'm right
13:19You're wrong
13:19I mean I've done two shows
13:26One with Amazon
13:27One with Netflix
13:27And I like what I was making
13:30Obviously
13:30But I
13:31I don't know how
13:32How
13:34Watch I want to continue
13:36I may want to take a break
13:38And
13:38Go and make movies again
13:41I've decided to do more
13:42Visual arts
13:44You know
13:45And
13:45Trying
13:46To find other areas
13:49Of creativity
13:50But I think it's time
13:52To go make a film again
13:53You said you work on two shows
13:55But you work on
13:55The famous five
13:56Or something
13:57So the famous five
13:58Was a television show
14:00That I
14:00I just
14:01How do you say
14:02Executive produced
14:03Or created
14:04But I had no
14:05Involvement in it
14:06Otherwise
14:07I just created
14:08The kind of
14:08Concept and the story
14:10Based on these
14:11Very famous books
14:12The famous five
14:13Was more because
14:13My kids would read the books
14:15When they were young
14:16I remember my mother
14:17Reading me the books
14:18So it was more like
14:19A
14:19Past history thing
14:21That
14:22Came up as an opportunity
14:23Well
14:27If something is interesting
14:29Why not look at it
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings
14:32In Hollywood
14:33Met wonderful people
14:35But in the end
14:36I like my freedom
14:37That's all I really want
14:39Is just to be free
14:40When you work in Hollywood
14:42There is a contract
14:44Some people love that
14:45And can work within that
14:47I
14:47It's maybe not
14:49So much my thing
14:50Right now
14:51But who knows
14:51Maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big
14:53You know
14:55Big superhero movie
14:56That could be fun
14:59Maybe
14:59I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open
15:00To anything
15:01But at the same time
15:02At the end
15:03You should just
15:04Make what makes you happy
15:05It's one thing
15:06Having creative control
15:08Which is
15:08Easier enough
15:10But it's where
15:11All the money
15:12That's invested
15:13Puts a burden on you
15:15Because all that money
15:17Has to get
15:17You know
15:18Recouped
15:19And then you have to
15:19Make a certain
15:20Type of movie
15:21You don't have the freedom
15:22To do whatever you want
15:23Because you're
15:24You're a slave
15:25To the economics
15:26If your film
15:27Costs 200 million dollars
15:29Or 100 million dollars
15:30You need to make
15:31300, 400 million dollars
15:32To break even
15:33And that already
15:34Puts a strain
15:34On what kind of movie
15:35Can you make
15:36And I don't want
15:37Any conditions
15:39On me
15:39At all
15:41You have to be
15:42Completely free
15:43I mean in the beginning
15:49A lot of people
15:49Were talking about
15:50Another drive
15:51But it was like
15:52That would be
15:53The worst idea
15:54I've ever heard of
15:55So never
15:56Never
15:57I've been very lucky
16:07To live
16:07A fun life
16:09And
16:10It has nothing
16:12To do with fame
16:13You realize
16:15Very quickly
16:16It has
16:17That I've had
16:18Opportunities
16:19And I've been able
16:20To work with people
16:21I've met people
16:23I've spoken with people
16:24And it's all been
16:26A lot of fun
16:27But I think
16:28When I started
16:29The idea of being seen
16:32Was very essential
16:33The idea of fame
16:34And fame being
16:36It's like an opportunity
16:38It's like a stage
16:39One thing is becoming famous
16:41The next
16:42What are you going to do with it
16:43And obviously
16:44It's like anything
16:45It's an opportunity
16:47I will not provide
16:49A lot of people
16:51It will heps
16:51Arbeit all the time
16:52I will also
16:53Arbeller
16:54Yeah
16:55I will also
16:55I will
16:55We will also
16:57We will be here
16:59in Bangkok
16:59For six months
17:00And Yang
17:01He will release
17:02His next film
17:02And I have said
17:03Yeah to
17:03Filmer process
17:04It's nice
17:06We will be
17:07Along with him
17:08When he will film
17:09When
17:10When he was
17:10On drive
17:11I got home
17:12With children
17:13And it took
17:14Seven months
17:15Et ce n'est pas trop difficile pour les autres.
17:45et le prochain jour c'est le mois d'août.
17:47Tu regardes des films ?
17:49J'ai regardé beaucoup de films quand j'étais plus jeune,
17:52mais maintenant c'est plus difficile et plus.
17:54Il y a d'autres choses que je trouve intéressantes.
17:56Comme quoi ?
17:57J'ai fait ma première exposition qui s'ouvre à Tokyo,
18:02et ça a été beaucoup de plaisir.
18:04Une collaboration avec Hideo Kojima ?
18:06Oui.
18:07Pouvez-vous parler de ça ?
18:08J'ai créé une exposition qui s'ouvre la semaine dernière,
18:15en Tokyo, où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma femme et ma fille dans la procession.
18:24Hey, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:33Wait !
18:38Don't live without me !
18:42No !
18:43Don't go !
18:45Please !
18:46Don't go !
18:48And you are in Death Stranding too ?
18:50I am Heart Man,
18:52and Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding.
19:00I think that you don't believe everything you read on the internet.
19:03Ok.
19:04Can you tease us something ?
19:05Well, believe everything you read on the internet.
19:07Oh, ok !
19:35They certainly took me tease me !
19:37I do..
19:38If there is a Noon Town,
19:40they're all the best.
19:41I could see...
19:42I have no idea !
19:43I can't believe that you don't have to be there.
19:44I don't believe that you don't have to be a working country.
19:45Put in the air !
19:46I have no idea !
19:47I have no idea !
19:48But I had no idea !
19:49I mean I was a horror to me !
19:50I think that I have to be the most aware !
19:51I definitely think that you won't have to be the most aware !
19:52I can't believe !
19:53You know !
19:54It's just me !
19:55I am thinking !
19:56I have to be the most aware !
19:57So, yeah !
19:58You have to be the most aware !
19:59We know !
20:00That's the best way !
20:01It's hard !
20:02All the way !
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