Eduardo Bolsonaro entrevista nadadora americana para defender Nikolas Ferreira

Name: Eduardo Bolsonaro entrevista nadadora americana para defender Nikolas Ferreira
Uploaded: 2025-06-26T01:29:00+00:00
Duration: 6 min 52 s
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Eduardo Bolsonaro (PL) entrevistou a nadadora americana Riley Gaines para falar sobre a participação de atletas transgênero em competições femininas. A conversa com Gaines, que é apoiadora de Donald Trump, foi publicada no canal do deputado no YouTube neste fim de semana e ocorreu após a polêmica envolvendo a suposta fala transfóbica de Nikolas Ferreira (PL) no Dia das Mulheres. Aqui, você assiste a um resumo da conversa.

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00:00Fala pessoal, estou aqui com a Riley Games, que é uma nadadora profissional nos Estados Unidos

00:06e ela inclusive tem vídeos que ficaram muito famosos na internet dando conta da sua experiência

00:12de ter competido contra um Trump, o Leah Thomas, que inclusive quebrou todos os recordes

00:16em competição de natação feminina.

00:18Como o Wasp competiu contra um transgêndero em um pôo de nadador?

00:22Right, first let me give you a little background on myself, um, I started swimming at the age

00:29of four, um, and all the way through college, so I've swam competitively for 18 years, um,

00:35it's impossible to put into words the amount of time and the sacrifices that you make to

00:39compete at that level, um, I've tried for the Olympics twice, I've done some really incredible

00:44things in my career, and so my senior year of college, we were told we would be competing

00:50against biological male Leah Thomas, um, upon looking up who Will Thomas was as a male,

00:56we were able to see that William Thomas, which was his male name, um, was ranked 462nd among

01:03the men, of course, transitioning to female.

01:07Now Leah Thomas was leading every female in the nation that first, yeah, right, um, that

01:14first day of competition at our national championships, which is, of course, the meet where you have

01:19the fastest swimmers in the country come together and race, um, I watched on the side of the

01:24pool as Leah Thomas, again, swam to a national title, beating out Olympians, American record

01:31holders, the most impressive female swimmers of all time by seconds, by body links, so that

01:37next day of competition, Thomas and I competed against each other in the 200 freestyle, and you

01:42asked me how I felt, um, it felt like I was going into this race with my hands tied behind

01:49my back, um, it's impossible, even myself who's put in so much work, so much dedication, so

01:56much time, it felt impossible for me to beat this person who has male advantage, um, males,

02:02of course, they have larger heart, larger lungs, um, of course, they're taller, um, when you

02:08go through puberty as a male, there are irreversible, um, advantages males are given, and that's

02:15obvious, it doesn't take a biologist or a scientist to know that male are, males are advantageous

02:21when it comes to something that requires athleticism and strength.

02:25If I can interrupt you just for a while, because people who say that, uh, transgender competing

02:30against women is something that the science proves that is something that is fair, can you

02:37tell us about, uh, from the point of view of the biology, if this is really fair, what

02:43does the science tells you about that?

02:46We have science that tells us that is not true, um, science has evolved in a way where

02:52we now know even a year, two years, three years on hormone suppressors, it does not change

02:59or make your, it changes your testosterone levels, but it does not make them computable to

03:04the levels of a female, um, the average females testosterone levels is anywhere from 0.8 to

03:101.2 nanomoles per liter.

03:13The average male is 20 times higher than that, um, so even with these men reducing their testosterone

03:20levels, they're not reducing it enough to where it's fair, and even if they were to get

03:26to fair levels, there are still certain things that will never change with hormone suppression.

03:32Like I said, your heart size, your lung size, um, it sounds silly, but even the size of your

03:37throat, men have a 40% larger throat than women, which is a huge factor to success in swimming.

03:43Of course, you want a larger throat to get more air into your body to oxygenate your muscles.

03:48Um, so science tells us this is not fair, and I also think it's kind of ironic that the same

03:53people telling us to follow the science. This is the same people who told us that during

03:59COVID and look at, look at what's happened there. Um, these people are not following the accurate,

04:06real unbiased science. There is simply no credible medical professional whose expertise is in

04:13physiological development, who would tell you that men can be computable with women, even with

04:18testosterone suppression. Other thing is this week here in Brazil on March 8th, the most voted

04:25congressman in the last election, Nicolas Ferreira, he made a speech in the Congress telling that, uh,

04:32women are losing space for transgenders, mainly in competition, in female competition. It's very

04:38curious that the opposite doesn't happen. You don't see a women, a transgender women that became a man

04:43competing against men, you know, in the MMA, UFC, or even soccer, whatever. But the thing is, what is

04:51happening now with Nicolas Ferreira is the left is trying to cancel him, trying to say that his speech

04:58was all about, uh, uh, they say transgender phobia. Do you have something like that in the US? What

05:05happened with you? The left also tried to cancel you in the US? Absolutely. Um, I get labeled all the

05:11time as a transphobe or a bigot, or I'm so hateful and I'm not inclusive. And what I'm doing is not

05:18kind. Um, but in reality, it's not inclusive to allow these, these men to compete with us. It's

05:27exclusive. We're excluding female athletes. It's not kind to do this. Um, and these exact comments that

05:35people comment all the time on my social media, this is the exact reason why more people who are in my

05:40position aren't speaking out. I know how my competitors felt. I know how Leah Thomas's

05:46teammates felt because I've had great conversations with them. Um, and they feel exactly how I feel,

05:51but they're so scared to talk about it because they don't want to be canceled. And I saw that video

05:57and I thought it was incredible. Um, he was kind of making a mockery of the people who are making a

06:04mockery of women. Um, trans women who think womanhood is about long hair and makeup and heels and dresses.

06:15That is not what womanhood is. And it's offensive. It makes a mockery, especially in sports of everything

06:22that I've dedicated my entire life to, um, women are more than just the testosterone level. And we're

06:28more than just the hair and the makeup and the dresses.

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