همایش انرژی باکو: آیا همکاری‌ بین‌المللی می‌تواند اهداف اقلیمی را محقق سازد؟

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همایش انرژی باکو: آیا همکاری‌ بین‌المللی می‌تواند اهداف اقلیمی را محقق سازد؟  در این رویداد، مقامات ارشد انرژی و مدیران عامل شرکت‌ها بر ضرورت فوری اقدامات چندجانبه، سرمایه‌گذاری و نوآوری برای تحقق اهداف اقلیمی و سه‌برابرکردن ظرفیت جهانی انرژی‌های تجدیدپذیر تا سال ۲۰۳۰ تأکید کردند.  با همکاری   لب بیشتر : http://parsi.euronews.com/2025/06/23/baku-energy-conference-can-international-cooperation-achieve-climate-goals  مشترک شوید: یورونیوز به یازده زبان دیگر در دسترس شماست

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00:00Only 15% of renewable energy investments are made in developing countries,

00:05whereas that's where it's mostly needed, especially those which are not very resource rich.

00:11So if we could expand the reach of the treaty to these southern countries, it could bring benefit there.

00:19Hello and a very warm welcome to a special edition of Energy Frontiers,

00:31where you join me on the ground for the 30th edition of the Baku Energy Forum,

00:36where global energy CEOs and ministers have convened to discuss energy security, innovation and sustainability.

00:43Strong emphasis was placed on global collaboration and improved international dialogue at this year's Baku Energy Forum.

00:54Oil and gas majors and policymakers debated how to advance cross-border partnerships in both conventional and renewable energy.

01:02Calling for greater sector cooperation and transparency was the International Energy Charter,

01:07a voluntary platform for dialogue between energy producing, consuming and transit states,

01:13spanning more than 90 countries.

01:16I asked its Acting Secretary-General if the Energy Charter Treaty remains relevant today

01:21amidst growing calls for reform and concerns over its compatibility with climate goals.

01:30It's great to see you. Thank you for talking to me today.

01:32Oh, pleasure to speak to you, Rebecca.

01:34Some countries have already exited the treaty and others have announced that they're planning to.

01:39Tell me why and also what does this mean for the future of multilateral energy governance?

01:46Well, I do believe and I think it is shared belief by member countries of the treaty

01:53that especially in this age when there's a concern about the rise of unilateralism,

02:00the international cooperation and global universality is even more important.

02:06So I do think there's a value in our treaty, especially if it can be applied more to the developing energy,

02:13developing countries which are having less renewable energy investments.

02:19We have recently adopted amendments to the treaty.

02:22This happened just last December 2024.

02:27And what these amendments do is that now we cover new energy and materials such as hydrogen,

02:35ammonia, biogas, biomesan and synthetic fuels,

02:40as well as activities such as carbon capture, utilization and storage.

02:45These things didn't exist 30 years ago.

02:48I also had the chance to sit down with Gauri Singh of the International Renewable Energy Agency

02:53to find out how IRENA is facilitating the tripling of global renewable energy by 2030.

03:00Gauri, it's great to see you. Thank you for talking to me today.

03:02Pleasure. Pleasure to be here.

03:04Let me start by asking you about IRENA's facilitation of the tripling of renewable capacity by 2030,

03:12but also the doubling of energy efficiency.

03:15I imagine there's good news and there's bad news, but are we on track?

03:19Well, to put it simply, we are not.

03:22We are not on track, but there's some good news.

03:25And the good news is that we are seeing the deployment of renewables on the ground increasing year on year.

03:34Last year, we had about 585 gigawatts, which was a growth of 23%.

03:43And also, if you look at the investment that is now going into renewables,

03:47we did manage a substantial leap of about $100 billion,

03:54going to nearly $670 billion going into renewables.

03:59But to say if that is enough or not, I mean, unfortunately, it isn't,

04:04because we need a deployment of nearly 1,000 gigawatts.

04:10So we're still not there.

04:12And in terms of investment, we need to reach about $1.5 trillion every year

04:18to be able to make to this target of tripling of renewables

04:22and to ensure that we stay on track on our climate goals that we have set for ourselves.

04:31In terms of where we're seeing the most rapid pace of renewable deployment,

04:36we're looking to China, EU, the United States,

04:39and the cost of capital and finance that we're mentioning has a great deal to do with that.

04:43Talk to me about other potential areas of growth.

04:46Where is rising up through the ranks and what do they need to do

04:49to make sure their deployment is faster?

04:51So clearly, you know, finance, as you said, is a very important factor.

04:57So you need to have not just the quantum that flows into countries

05:01other than the EU, China, and the US, where you're seeing the bulk of the deployment.

05:07But in the emerging countries like India,

05:11in many of the Southeast Asian countries, or in Brazil,

05:15you know, you want to see not just the quantum of finance being more,

05:21but you also want to see that the cost of capital comes down.

05:24Because of the higher perceived risks,

05:28unfortunately, you know, the cost of capital is not where we'd want to see it.

05:33And, you know, for renewals, it's already a well-established business case.

05:41What's your forecast on when that might happen, though?

05:43It's much talked about.

05:44But in terms of timelines,

05:45are you able to point to when it might be realistically happening?

05:48So, I mean, I see the next decade as being very important

05:52because that's when the foundation will be left.

05:56And it has to be a strong foundation for us

05:58to reach about zero kind of a time horizon that we've set for ourselves.

06:03And clearly, that will have to come with

06:06not just a focus on getting more renewables deployed,

06:12because that has to continue.

06:13But we need to also strengthen our grids.

06:16We need to strengthen the infrastructure around it.

06:18You mentioned grids.

06:19We know the limitations.

06:21They're evident and there's massive investment needed.

06:24And even when that investment is made,

06:25there's a long lead time, there's a long lag time.

06:28What can we do to manage that in the interim,

06:30given the challenges that we have with demand?

06:33So, as we move into a more intermittent source of supply,

06:41which the solar and wind is,

06:43then the grids have to be strengthened

06:45to be able to take this from multiple sources.

06:50The second very important aspect is that

06:52the grid operators have to understand

06:56what the future is looking like

06:58and be able to look at digitization at a very rapid scale.

07:03Kauri, talk to me about the next generation of energy leaders.

07:07Are you encouraged by the talent pool?

07:09So, I think, you know, Rebecca, I've spoken to many COs

07:14and one of the things that they will all tell you

07:17is that the big challenge they see

07:19is going to be the challenge of being able to attract the right talent.

07:24We attracted nearly 50,000 applicants

07:27who wanted to be, you know, to be a part of our assembly.

07:31It makes you feel that this younger generation

07:34is really preparing themselves for the future

07:38that they know they're going to be a part of.

07:42Our energy future is in safe hands.

07:44I would certainly hope so.

07:45I certainly hope so, too.

07:47Kauri, it's been a pleasure.

07:48Thank you so much for your time.

07:49Thank you so much.

07:50Well, that is a wrap of this special edition of Energy Frontiers.

07:54I hope you enjoyed the show

07:55and I'll see you again next time.

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