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Supremacy Clause
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00:00I think we've got Tina Peters here now.
00:02Tina, are you with us?
00:04Hey, Joe.
00:05Yes, I am.
00:06And this is probably the most important show I've ever done, Joe.
00:12You know, and you know how I am.
00:15I mean, every Friday I had the J6ers on because, you know,
00:20the being political hostages, and, of course, I'm one now myself.
00:24But what I'm going to talk about today is obviously the overstepping of the judicial system.
00:35You know, I know that President Trump is passing a flurry of executive orders
00:41ending the weaponization of federal government, which I'm, you know, really excited about.
00:46But also the designating cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations
00:53and specially designated global terrorists.
00:56You know, the thing that's going on in our elections, which put the J6ers hostages in prison
01:02and has put me in prison, is because of these cartels, these Venezuelan cartels.
01:09I mean, if you go back and you look at my website at TinaPeters.us, we should be updating it now.
01:15We should have that 17-minute Gary Bernson interview.
01:18He was a former CIA agent turned whistleblower.
01:24He was a CIA agent for 30 years.
01:26And then he started investigating these cartels, Joe,
01:30and their connection to the birth of what we now call the Iranian voting system.
01:37So if anybody hasn't seen that, they need to watch that 17-minute video
01:41to give you a, you know, kind of a history of how this is a global cartel that had run by, you know,
01:53the Biden administration, well, run by the cartels, but globalists that have used the Biden administration
02:00and the DOJ to prosecute people like me.
02:04But the thing that I wanted to touch on today was the way that, you know, people are saying,
02:11well, you were convicted on state charges, so President Trump can't do anything.
02:16That is not true.
02:17That is not true.
02:18And I'll talk about that today.
02:19I may, they cut me off in 15 minutes, and I can call right back in.
02:24But, so we might have a lull in that time of calling back in.
02:28Well, Tina, I'm really, first of all, thank you so much for dialing in.
02:33We've got a lovely picture of you on the show right now.
02:38And we all are praying for you, thinking about you, and wanting, you know, wanting your release.
02:44It's outrageous what happened to you.
02:46We all know it's the criminals are the ones that threw you in prison.
02:50What about the fact that you are a whistleblower and that they threw you in prison
02:54despite the fact that you outed this information doing your job in Colorado?
03:00Is there any thought from your attorneys or the federal government to say,
03:06hey, you guys have imprisoned a whistleblower?
03:08Is anybody talking about that?
03:11Well, here's the thing that people have not, and, you know, that's what I'm doing now,
03:17is putting light on the supremacy clause.
03:21So we had moved the court with pursuant to Colorado Criminal Rule 12 to dismiss the indictment against me
03:31because I was immune from prosecution under the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution.
03:37That's Article 6, Clause 2, and the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the 14th Amendment,
03:43which is 1, Clause 2.
03:46And as a result, the courts in Colorado had no subject matter jurisdiction over this case,
03:53and it should have been dismissed.
03:55So, you know, this is the thing.
03:57This is how, this is where the federal government can come in right now.
04:01They don't need to withdraw funds from Jared Polis or whatever, which they can do that.
04:07I mean, they should, because a lot of those funds are going to very nefarious, you know, type programs.
04:16But this is when the states overstep, when a person like me is preserving federal election records, a federal law.
04:29I took an oath, Joe, not just to the United States, I mean, not just to the Colorado Constitution,
04:35but I took an oath, raised my right hand, I did this twice, I was sworn in twice,
04:40to the United States Constitution to uphold the laws.
04:45And the laws plainly state that, according to 52 U.S.C. 20701,
04:52that I am required to preserve election records for 22 months.
04:58And this extends beyond papers to include other records.
05:03This is the records that are created in visual or electronic form, and that's what I did.
05:10Yeah.
05:11Yeah, it was fine.
05:12Everything you did was fine.
05:13You committed no crime in my book, in my eyes, for sure.
05:16In a lot of people's eyes, we're all behind you.
05:18There was outrageous what happened to you.
05:20And I got to tell you, the people that saw that trial with that judge
05:23just cannot believe that somebody that just mean-spirited and evil
05:27could be in our courtroom running any cases at all.
05:32He was just disgusting.
05:35And I know you don't want to talk about him, but from us that watched in, it was terrible.
05:39Tina, what else, what's it like there?
05:42What do you feel now with the January Sixers being released?
05:46Does it give you some hope?
05:47Oh, I'll tell you, it just, it sends joy to my heart to see those hostages being released.
05:56They're exactly what they are, is hostages.
06:00And to see them back home with their families.
06:02Many of their families have been destroyed because of finances and because of being shunned
06:08by their communities.
06:09I know when the FBI, that's the federal agency, when the FBI overstepped their bounds and they
06:17raided my home on November 16th of 2021 and trashed around my late Navy SEAL son's effects.
06:28A lot of them were pictures of his body posthumously after he died, after the accident.
06:35You know, it's just the injustice that's being done, but it brought a thrill to my heart to
06:44see them released so they can begin to put their lives back to order.
06:51Some pieces are forever irreparably broken because I know even when the Navy SEALs go out
06:59for six- and 12-month deployments, they come back and their, you know, their wives have
07:04been running everything and doing all the finances and rearing the kids and all that stuff.
07:09And it's really difficult when the man steps back into the home.
07:12And so just pray for them.
07:14Pray that they're, all the damage that's been done.
07:18And I know from being in jail and being in jail that night when my father died after the
07:22indictment, that some things you just can't unsee, you can't unsee the injustices that
07:29are done while you're in jail and while you're in prison, you know, the being treated like
07:35a criminal, having no liberty.
07:38That's the worst thing, Joe, is we really, it's a natural way that we really don't, aren't
07:48able to relate to not having a choice of your toothpaste, have a six-inch comb, you know,
07:54not having choices of what you eat, which is horrible.
07:57I mean, I don't even know why they, how they can feed this.
08:00Some of the boxes are labeled not for human consumption.
08:03I mean, the food, the lockdowns constantly, the bright lights on 24-7.
08:10You know, I've got right now four, four, 48-inch fluorescent lights above my, above my head
08:21that shine all night long.
08:23They do dim them a little bit at night, but the lights are on 24-7, you know, and you hear
08:29those locks, you hear things that you can't, see things you cannot, you cannot put out of
08:35your mind.
08:35So, so pray for those that have gone through that, my heart goes out for them, but I'm
08:41thrilled.
08:41And it does give me hope.
08:42It gives me hope because of this, this supremacy clause.
08:46So, if you don't mind, I'll, I'll go ahead and, and, and go through that because people
08:51haven't heard this.
08:52They think, well, because this is a state prosecution that Jared Polis will have to letter out or Trump's
09:00going to have to withhold money or do these other things.
09:03But that's not the case.
09:04They, they, they overstepped their jurisdiction.
09:09They did not have subject matter jurisdiction over my case.
09:14And therefore, even the prosecution, the indictment, the prosecution, and the, the written sentence
09:21of nine previous years needs to be reversed.
09:25But, you know, because Colorado law adopts a voting system standard that's promulgated by
09:33the federal election commission, which is now the EAC, the election, election assistance
09:37commission, um, that govern the mechanics of elections in the state.
09:41And it, it, it includes, the voting system standards includes the software required to program, control, and support the equipment that is, that is used to define
09:52ballots to cast and count votes to report and to display election results and to maintain and produce audit trail, um, information.
10:01You have one minute remaining.
10:04So I'll call back our, our, our, our 15 minutes is up.
10:07But, um, to ensure the system integrity, all systems shall, according to these laws, maintain a permanent record of all original audit data that cannot be overwritten, um, and, and so, and it has to be retained in the original format.
10:22And, and of course, that's what I did, um, and the importance of election audit trails provides a supporting documentation for verifying the correctness of reported election results.
10:33They present a concrete, indestructible archival record of all system activity related to the vote tally and are essential for public confidence in the accuracy of the tally to recount and for evidence in the event of criminal or civil litigation.
10:50And I'll, and I'll, and I'll, I'll pick it up from there when I come back, but, um, and that's exactly what I did.
10:58Okay, great, Tina.
10:59We'll look forward to hearing you back from here in a minute.
11:03Okay, a couple minutes.
11:04All right.
11:05Thanks.
11:05Tina Peters on the line from, from prison and, uh, she's, uh, been explaining to us her case and why it was, it was absolutely wrong, uh, to move forward in the state of Colorado against her.
11:18And so we're going to continue that, uh, that discussion.
11:21Kim Surgenti, who was going to be with us and Tony Roman today, they're going to dial in tomorrow.
11:27Now, Kim's a January 6th and you won't believe his story of what's going on with him out in California.
11:30So we'll have Kim on tomorrow.
11:33Right now we're bringing Tina Peters back and Tina live again from, from prison slash jail.
11:40I'm not sure what you call it right now, but Tina.
11:42So, uh, let's continue with your discussion.
11:45Thank you, Joe.
11:47And I love Tony Roman.
11:48I mean, he, I've been to his restaurant.
11:50If that's the same one in Huntington Beach, he, he would not lock down during the COVID.
11:55Right.
11:56Tell him that Tina said hi.
11:58I sure will.
12:00I sure will.
12:01Yeah.
12:01Great guy.
12:02And Kim, Kim Surgenti was January 6th with him.
12:05Yeah.
12:07Oh yeah.
12:07You guys are going to love him.
12:09So just tune in, tune in to that show.
12:12But, and most people know that, that, you know, what I did, everything I did was legal.
12:17Before their felonies revolve around Conan Hayes, a federal cyber security expert being allowed
12:23to observe the Secretary of State and Dominion voting systems misnamed, trusted bill.
12:29And, and, and just before I get into the supremacy, back in the supremacy clause, access to the
12:35secure room containing Mesa County's election management system workstation, election rule
12:4120.5.3 provides that individuals may be present in these locations supervised by one or more
12:50employees with authorized access.
12:51So he was always under, under authorized access.
12:55There were really, really, but we know that that trial was a sham.
12:58But here's, here's the thing about the supremacy clause.
13:01It provides that the constitution, the laws of the United States shall be the supreme law of the land.
13:08And the judges in every state shall be bound thereby.
13:11And every state shall be bound thereby.
13:13Anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary with, notwithstanding.
13:19So article six, clause two says the states have no power to retard, impede, burden, or any
13:26manner of control, the execution of federal law.
13:30And we know that I was fulfilling federal law by, by preserving the election records that
13:36we proved were deleted.
13:39And I'm the only one in Colorado that actually has a copy of them.
13:42So, um, and I, if I had not done that, I could have been charged with a felony, uh, myself.
13:49So, um, the, so the states have no power, uh, against the federal government when you, when
13:57you do that.
13:57So, um, let me, let me get to, uh, let me get to a part that I wanted to read to you here.
14:04If these lights are so bright, um, so the, the, the supremacy clause, um, is, um, it's here,
14:15let me see, it's whether the federal officer's contact was reasonably necessary to the performance
14:22of his duties, which we know it was, and I'm not going to quote all the citation, but when
14:26you go to my website at TinaPeters.us, um, or if, if Joe, um, puts this out, you can read it.
14:34But the immunity applies where federal actor had no motive other than discharge his duty
14:39under the circumstances, as they appeared to him, that he had an honest and reasonable belief
14:44that his act, uh, his actions were necessary and proper.
14:49And it operates to, the supremacy clause operates to secure federal rights by according them
14:55as a priority whenever they come in contact with, with state law.
15:01It precludes the use of state process court, tutorial power to frustrate the legitimate and
15:09reasonable exercise of federal authority.
15:13And like I said, all of this has citations, uh, to case law.
15:17So the supremacy clause immunity deprives a state court of subject matter jurisdiction.
15:23Officers, quote, disarging duties under federal authority pursuant to and by virtue of valid
15:32federal laws are not subject to arrest or other liability under the laws of the state in which
15:39their duties are performed.
15:41This is an important one in Ohio versus Thomas.
15:44Um, by, quote, by providing immunity from suit rather than a mere shield against liability,
15:50the defense of federal immunity protects federal operations from the chilling effect of state
15:58prosecution.
16:00And so the state court is, it says, um, in another case, is instead strict of any jurisdiction
16:07over the defendant.
16:10Um, and the supremacy clause immunity is a constitutional provision in itself that contains a guarantee
16:18that a trial will not occur.
16:19Well, we presented it to the court and, of course, along with 41 other motions, uh, the court
16:26in Colorado, uh, illegally, uh, uh, objected to it.
16:30And it also gives rise to a right not to be tried.
16:35Um, the supremacy clause immunity, quote, extends to any person, including a private citizen who
16:42acts under the direction and control of federal authorities or pursuant to federal law or court
16:49order.
16:50The protections of the supremacy clause for those executing federal law are also reflected
16:57in the 14th and 14th amendment privileges and immunity clause, which even within, uh, any
17:05scope, it protects the quote, the right of the citizen of this country to engage in administering
17:11the national government's functions.
17:16So, you know, you have right there, um, you know, everything I did was, was to fulfill a federal,
17:23uh, a federal duty.
17:25But let me just tell you, as far back as September, so all this broke in August when Dominion,
17:31there's so many emails that we were not allowed to, to present in court, uh, to Dominion staff
17:37in Denver to the secretary of state, like, what are we going to do about this Tina Peters?
17:42You know, uh, they were figuring out a way they could take me down.
17:46Um, of course, we had a legal subpoena for, uh, for Frontera, who is, uh, Dominion, uh, Mike
17:53Frontera, who's Dominion's legal counsel, and Kate Stimson.
17:57Um, and they, uh, the DA and the judge would not allow us to bring them up on the stand.
18:04Uh, but here's the first letter that I wrote on September 17th, after being in 24-7 security,
18:11armed security, after my hotel room was breached, after all this came out.
18:15And I went back to Grand Junction to bring the first, uh, Mesa County report, which, of
18:23course, as people know, is on my website, at tinapeters.us.
18:26But this is what I, I, the cover letter, it says,
18:29In close, it's the first report from the cyber security experts who have analyzed thoroughly
18:34the two forensic images of the drive of the CVS, Democracy Suite Election Management System,
18:40in my office, which we used for the management of the 2020 election.
18:44Because the report documents a substantial amount of data destruction during the May 25th
18:50trusted bill conducted by the Secretary of State's office and vendor, I wanted to get
18:55this into your hands immediately.
18:57As you know, the legal duty to preserve election records falls wholly to me and my office.
19:03Extensive amounts of data required to be preserved were instead destroyed, and done in a way that
19:09was totally beyond my control or knowledge.
19:11Among other things, these deletions would preclude a forensic audit of the last election.
19:17Thanks to the pre-trusted billed image I had commissioned in May, these data had been
19:22preserved in full compliance with my obligations under federal and state law, preserving the
19:28integrity of our county's election record archive and permitting a forensic audit if one were
19:35conducted.
19:35According to this report, the forensic examination has determined that this system and procedures
19:42cannot meet the certification requirements of the state of Colorado and should not have been
19:48certified for use in the state.
19:50Obviously, this is highly relevant to any decision whether to continue to use these systems in our
19:56county.
19:56Now, let me tell you, after that, they went ahead and signed with John Paulos, the CEO of
20:06Dominion, signed an extension to the, a six-year extension to the Dominion contract, took the election
20:15equipment out, which was the evidence.
20:18Of course, we have the images, and then, of course, came after me.
20:25So on March 1st, I submitted another one when the other report came out, system report number
20:30two, and I said to them, again to the board, to the county sheriff, to the DA, Rubenstein, who
20:40prosecuted me at my trial, along with the Attorney General Shapiro and Drake.
20:46I said, as you know, I had these images taken to preserve election records and help determine
20:51whether the county should continue to utilize the equipment from this vendor.
20:55Because the enclosed report reveals shocking vulnerabilities and defects in the current
21:00system, placing my office and other county clerks in legal jeopardy, I'm forwarding this to the county
21:05attorney and to you so that the county may assess its legal position appropriately.
21:10Then the public must know that its voting systems are fundamentally flawed, illegal,
21:15and inherently unreliable.
21:18From my initial review of the report, it appears that our county's voting system was illegally
21:23certified and illegally configured in such a way that, quote, vote totals can be easily
21:29changed.
21:30We have been assured for years that external intrusions are impossible because these systems
21:36are air-graft, contain no votums, and cannot be accessed over the Internet.
21:40It turns out that these assurances were false.
21:43In fact, the Mesa County voting system alone was found to contain 36 wireless devices, and
21:49the system was configured to allow, quote, any computer in the world, end quote, to connect
21:55to the EMS server.
21:56For this and other reasons, for example, the experts found uncertified software had been illegally
22:02installed on the EMS server.
22:03However, our system violates the federal voting system standards that are mandated by Colorado
22:08law.
22:09The board took no action.
22:12On March 23rd, I submitted the third report.
22:16It was done by Dr. Walter Valdi, Jeffrey O'Donnell, submitted to VA Rubenstein.
22:22And this showed that a second hidden set of, that a second database was created, and the
22:31set one was hidden from election workers.
22:34So after some of the ballots went in, et cetera, they were changed to another database.
22:40Breaking the chain of custody, violating federal auditability requirements, election officials
22:46had no way to examine or review the ballots in set one, which were not copied of set two.
22:50This calls into question the integrity of the vote counting process and validity of the
22:55election system.
22:58Rather than seriously engage the substantious concerns raised by me and the experts in their
23:05sober professional presentations to the board and their public discussions, they launched,
23:12D.A. Rubenstein launched an investigation of the conduct in which I and my associates engaged
23:19to comply with federal election retention law.
23:22So, you know, but the way this is, as serving as the county's desing election official, I
23:31had the undisputable federal duty under 52 U.S.C.
23:3620701's command that every officer of elections shall retain and preserve election records for
23:4522 months after an election.
23:48And in complying with this body of federal law, I acted as a federal official.
23:55And that official had to have, quote, an objectively reasonable and well-founded basis to believe that
24:05his actions were necessary to fulfill his duty.
24:08And, of course, then there's case law concerning that.
24:12So, the immunity...
24:17You have one minute remaining.
24:21...enveloping my conduct here and depriving this court, meaning the Colorado Court of
24:25Jurisdiction, is the Supremacy Clause.
24:29And it's the structural fulcrum upon which the American system of federalism balances.
24:35The clause protects structural rights by establishing a structure of government, which defines the
24:41relative powers of states and the federal government.
24:46So, I, you know, I'll stop.
24:50Well, I just wanted to share.
24:51We're going to share this information with whoever we can.
24:53We'll get it up.
24:54We're going to...
24:55We're behind you 1,000%.
24:56I don't know if you can call back after this or if this is it.
25:01I can call back.
25:02I can call back.
25:03So, it just cuts me off in 15 minutes.
25:04So, I'll call right back.
25:06It'll take you two minutes to get back.
25:08Okay, great.
25:08Well, we'll follow up with you after...
25:11We'll take a short break here then and we'll follow up with you here in a couple minutes.
25:16All right.
25:17Sounds good.
25:18Thanks, Tina.
25:19Tina Peters on the line.
25:21This will be our third and, I believe, final call today with Tina.
25:24We're talking about the Supremacy Clause.
25:27We're talking about her case.
25:28We're talking about three reports that she created.
25:30Once she found out what was going on in her county and we're going to continue that discussion
25:37right now.
25:38Tina, welcome back.
25:41Hey, Joe.
25:43And, you know, where we left off about the immunity with the Supremacy Clause and the 14th Amendment.
25:55So, the 6th and the 14th Amendment.
25:57So, the immunity enveloping my conduct depriving the court in Colorado of jurisdiction is not
26:06just simply a matter of recognizing some personal rights concerned on me.
26:11What is at work here and is far more fundamental is the consequence of our Constitution's structure
26:17of government.
26:18And, like I said before, the Supremacy Clause is a structural fulcrum upon which the American
26:24system of federalism balances the clause to protect structural rights by establishing
26:30a structure of government which defines the relative powers of states and the federal government.
26:36And so, it doesn't matter, even though everything that I did was perfectly legal and even Chris
26:43Bill, the Deputy Secretary of State, had stated that it was illegal to make a forensic image.
26:50But, it does not matter if the compliance with federal law causes a violation of state law.
26:56The execution of federal law has priority.
26:59And, that's in the case of Virginia, Uranium Inc. v. Warren.
27:05Thus, this court's finding of probable cause supporting the indictment is irrelevant.
27:11Indeed, even if it was illegal under state law for me to have made forensic images, which it was not,
27:18that would not prevent me from being shielded by the Supremacy Clause immunity from any criminal
27:24liability under state law because I was acting under and in pursuance of the laws of the United States.
27:32And, there's other citations, legal citations.
27:34But, I did no more than it was necessary and proper for me to do.
27:39Right.
27:40Right.
27:40And, you never at any point in time, Tina, and never at any point in time did you ever do this out of malice,
27:47nor did you ever think that you were doing something wrong.
27:49You believed the whole time, I'm certain, that you were doing the right thing.
27:53And, as most of, everybody watching you says, well, that's exactly what you should do.
27:59So, it's, this whole case is so outrageous, it's beyond belief.
28:05It is, it is.
28:07And, you know, the Supremacy guarantees that a person acting pursuant to federal law will not be subject to a state prosecution for those actions.
28:15So, even though we presented this to them in April of 2024, they continued on.
28:23And, that's what this illegitimate regime that we had with the Biden administration and Merrick Garland's DOJ,
28:31that's what we saw time after time with the persecution of Trump and prosecution of Trump with the jade fixers.
28:39And, that's what they do.
28:41And, so, I'm very grateful that President Trump is going to make things right.
28:45And, I believe that this allows him to intervene on my behalf.
28:51Yeah, because it's a federal, this is a state case, and the federal government needs to step in and protect you for your rights as a U.S. citizen.
28:59Absolutely.
29:00Tina, I don't know, are you aware that your mother wrote me, and she was concerned after an article that I put up,
29:11which, some great work by an individual in Colorado.
29:14And, your mother was concerned for your well-being and asked me to reach out to President Trump.
29:21Yeah, you know, my mom, she's 96 years old, as you know, and Sharp, I mean, this woman plays Scrabble.
29:34She's an amazing, amazing woman.
29:36And, you know, that's been my concern is that the effect that this would have on her health.
29:42And, of course, I want to get out so I can see my mom, you know, in her last years.
29:47Because, as you know, I was in jail when my father died, and I didn't sign up until the next day.
29:53And, of course, you know, they took my husband, the D.A. Rubenstein, the crooked attorney, had him sign a divorce decree.
30:00And, I found out a month before I would have been married, 35 years.
30:03I mean, there's no limit to what these criminals will do.
30:06And, so, I'm very grateful.
30:08I'm grateful to my mom.
30:09I'm grateful for the encouragement that you've given her.
30:13You know, she's kind of the bell of the bell of the ball right now at her retirement community because of all this activity going on.
30:22But, you know, she worries, you guys, you know.
30:25But that, I tell you what, that went viral.
30:28And I can't say for sure, but I believe that did reach President Trump because everybody was talking about that for about three days.
30:35And it was all, it just went viral.
30:38So, you know, thank your mom next time you talk to her for, you know, reaching out.
30:43And we're here to help in any way we can.
30:45We just want the truth.
30:46That's all we're doing, you, me, and, you know, everybody.
30:52We just want the truth out there.
30:54And then we want the law applied based on truth.
30:57And so, you know, and I love what you shared today because this is a federal situation.
31:04That's how Trump can come in here and bring in the DOJ and fix this mess.
31:11Bring in real people, real, you know, American attorneys that are fighting for Americans for wants and get this mess cleaned up quickly.
31:20Yes, I appreciate that.
31:24And I want to do a special shout out to my attorneys, you know, Pat McSweeney, who actually is the first one to bring this to our attention.
31:34And Bob Sincar and, of course, John Case has worked tirelessly on these motions.
31:40You know, filing 41 motions is not an inexpensive thing, nor is it a – it's a very time-consuming thing.
31:49But when they keep denying your due process, that's the only legal recourse you have.
31:55And I want to do a shout out for Patrick Byrne and the American Project, you know, Carlito and all the people.
32:02I mean, I could go on and on.
32:03And even people that you would not even know their name, my best friend Marcy and Jared and, you know,
32:09just people that keep me sane by just being ordinary, good Americans.
32:14But here's the thing.
32:15The reason it keeps me fighting, Joe, is that this is not just about me.
32:20As a matter of fact, I had – I fired one attorney group that they just wanted to get me off, you know.
32:26And I said, no.
32:27They didn't want to touch me at the election stuff.
32:29And I said, no, that's not – I'm not going to do that.
32:33I said, I don't want to just get off.
32:35Just like Jenna Griffal gave me, if I would recant what I said on Facebook Live, you know.
32:40And when I didn't, she had me removed from my elections department and other people that have offered me deals.
32:48It's like, no, this is bigger than me.
32:50This is the American people.
32:52And you have a constitutional right to cast a vote.
32:56And the other part of that is to make sure that your vote is counted.
33:02And so this is for the American people.
33:05As a matter of fact, I had to say something.
33:07Somebody was working on my website.
33:08I said, take all those donate buttons down.
33:10Because, you know, I mean, if people want to – if they want to contribute to me and, you know,
33:19to my illegal fund and to my home expenses and things like that while I'm in here or my commissary or whatever,
33:25they're free to do that.
33:26But I'm not doing this for money.
33:28And those that know me close, you know, I've given up everything.
33:32Because this fight, this cause is worth it, Joe.
33:35And you know that.
33:37Wow, so powerful, Tina.
33:39So powerful that God chose you.
33:40I'm telling you what.
33:42It's – you've been an inspiration for all of us.
33:45You know why you chose me, Joe?
33:50Because he knew that I couldn't do this in my – he knew I couldn't do this in my own strength.
33:55He knew I would have to rely on him nonstop, in which I have.
34:01And he knew also that because I couldn't do it in my own strength and it wouldn't be of me,
34:07that all the glory would have to go to him.
34:09And so I, you know, I could not have done this without having a strong faith in God and Jesus Christ
34:16because – and the direction of the Holy Spirit.
34:19Because I'll get inspiration of things.
34:21Things will just pop into my head or directions to go.
34:25And I'll be telling my – even my legal team, okay, we need to do this, we need to do that, that, you know.
34:30And I read every draft before it's put out.
34:32I okay and I edit it.
34:34I change what needs to be changed or ask them to and – because the Holy Spirit, you know,
34:39he is the spirit of truth.
34:42Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light.
34:44And so, you know, everyone that wants to have eternal life needs to – this is the time.
34:49You know, don't get complacent thinking that, you know, these four years are going to be the way it's going to be
34:54for, you know, the next 20 years.
34:56You need to get right literally with God and you can tackle anything.
35:01But that doesn't mean that I'm having a good time.
35:04I am definitely not.
35:06This is the hardest thing I think I've ever gone through right up there with losing my son.
35:13Well, Tina, well, you know, there's millions of people behind you.
35:19We all know who you are.
35:20We're listening to you.
35:21We're listening to your mother even.
35:23And, you know, we know that things are in the works to free you from this absolute nightmare situation that you ended up in.
35:35And we just all want the truth, and we want you out of there.
35:41I'm very grateful.
35:42And I love everyone.
35:44There's so many unsung heroes in all this.
35:46God just used me to be the face out there for what many are feeling the same thing.
35:53And so I really appreciate everybody out there that supported me and gave me the wind beneath my wings.
36:01Well, Tina, God bless you.
36:03We're going to share this.
36:04I'll see what we can do to get it up at Gateway Pundit and the entire interview, some of your key points as well.
36:10And we're just going to share this message.
36:12We want you free.
36:13You don't deserve to be there.
36:15You never did.
36:15You've done everything right.
36:17And we don't believe in this country you should be punished for sharing the truth, you know, especially if you had a legal duty to do so.
36:25So we stand with you, Tina.
36:27We're behind you.
36:28I hope you feel us.
36:29I hope you know we're praying for you.
36:31A lot of prayers.
36:31I'm going to ask everybody here listening to this to pray for Tina.
36:37Pray for her every time you think of her.
36:38And let's pray for, you know, for the ability to get out of there and get back home where you deserve to be as soon as possible.
36:50And go to the website because we are working hard to keep it updated with a 17-minute video I talked about with Gary Bernson and the filings and things like that.
36:59So please share it.
37:00And, Joe, you've been so wonderful.
37:02The articles are so inspiring and informative that people keep, you know, keep talking about it and sharing them.
37:10So I appreciate you so much.
37:12Well, thank you.
37:14And a big shout-out to Marty who's helped me a lot keeping this thing alive.
37:18So big thanks to him, too.
37:20Oh, yeah, Marty.
37:22Yeah.
37:22Well, thanks, Tina.
37:23God bless you.
37:24We're going to let you go.
37:25Thank you for dialing in.
37:26It's an honor.
37:27Call back any time.
37:28Let us know.
37:29We're here for you.
37:31And God bless.
37:32Can't wait to celebrate you when you're out here soon.
37:38And we'll be back tomorrow on the Joe Hoff Show with some January Sixers.
37:41God, we've got to pray for each other, for this country, and for freedom at last.
37:47So God bless.
37:49We'll catch up tomorrow.
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