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The recovery of the black box from the Air India flight 171 crash site in Ahmedabad, which resulted in the death of 241 people, is the main focus.
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00:0024 hours since horrific air India crash accident spot turns into a graveyard
00:16lone survivor amongst 241 dead on board walks away from accident spot with bruises
00:31British national survives fatal crash
00:37miracle man of God's own child top focus on five life a focus this evening on five life is going to
00:52be on the man who cheated death we're telling you the story of the 45 year old British national who
00:59survived this horrific horrific crash I'm Seha Mordani this is five life a quick check of the
01:05headlines first hunt for clues intensify forensics and I team ATS and other central agencies at crash
01:15site all eyes on black box and DVR recovery over 260 people dead in Ahmedabad plane tragedy Prime
01:28Minister Narendra Modi visits the crash site in Ahmedabad assessing the situation on the ground
01:34also meets injured victims at the civil hospital
01:37lone survivor Vishwa speaks out says he survived as the seed broke out of the plane which was added
01:47that he was on the opposite side of the hostel and he saw people die in front of him
01:52no closure no dead bodies shattered families queue up for DNA tests to identify their loved ones 216 samples collected so far
02:21after Israel's preemptive strikes Iran response launches 100 drones towards Israel Iranian media confirms
02:45revolutionary guard coke ahead Hussain Salami has been killed
02:49so
02:52this
02:58is
03:06this
03:13All right, we'll kickstart this edition with some news coming in
03:23as far as the investigations into the horrific crash is concerned.
03:27This is the big story we are breaking at this hour.
03:30Air India Flight 171 Black Box has been recovered.
03:35Remember, this is the black box
03:36that as always will be giving important clues
03:39as to what could have possibly happened there.
03:42As far as the last few seconds is concerned, just before the crash,
03:46what was the kind of the communication?
03:48The black box, remember, offers important clues
03:51into the investigations in many cases.
03:53The hunt for it actually started today
03:55is what we had learned from our sources.
03:58Right now, the information is that the black box has been retrieved.
04:02On the rooftop is what we are learning.
04:05Divesh is getting in more details.
04:07What else are you picking up, Divesh?
04:09This is a significant breakthrough
04:10as far as the investigations are concerned.
04:19Nagarjan Dwarkhanath also getting in more details.
04:22Nagarjan, essentially, this would offer us clues
04:24as to what could have possibly gone wrong.
04:27And hence, this recovery is extremely important, isn't it?
04:32It's absolutely true.
04:34It's a big, big headway in the investigation
04:36as to what exactly went on in this Air India crash.
04:39And we have been looking since morning,
04:41is what I was told for the black box.
04:44Yesterday was the priority was to recover all the dead bodies
04:47and the mortal remains
04:48and ensure that the surrounding area is completely sanitized.
04:53And now it's the time for investigation.
04:55Today, the Air India officials
04:56and also the Aircraft Accident Investigation Board officials
05:00had reached the spot
05:01and finally they have recovered the black box.
05:03These are two separate units
05:05in the tail of the aircraft.
05:07Sneha, what we call colloquially
05:09is black box.
05:10Usually it's about flight data recorder
05:12and cockpit voice recorder.
05:14What did the pilot tell the co-pilot?
05:16Was there miscommunication?
05:17Was the instructions not heard properly?
05:19What was the communication to the ATC?
05:21And also the flight data recorder
05:23gives in critical analysis also as to
05:26was the engine fuel,
05:27was the engine,
05:28did the engine go away
05:29in terms of the fuel pressure as such?
05:34Why did the aircraft lose its engine power?
05:37Was the fuel contamination?
05:39All of it would be the reason
05:42why the flight data recorder
05:43might get crucial information
05:45and that's the reason
05:46it's a big, big headway
05:47in the investigation
05:48at this point of time.
05:49Air India has finally taken the black box
05:52and now the data also would be shared
05:54with other foreign agencies
05:55like NTSP as well
05:56who would be coming here.
05:58Boeing also would be taking up the data
06:00and analyzing as to further
06:01what should be done
06:02and what course of action
06:03needs to be taken
06:04and should they all...
06:05The main reason what this would show is
06:07was it a technical glitch?
06:09If that's the technical glitch,
06:10then most likely
06:11the Air India
06:12and also Boeing
06:12might even ground
06:14all the 787
06:15till further investigation
06:17of full report is carried out.
06:18So this becomes
06:19crucial piece of data
06:21for all the investigative agencies
06:22at this point of time.
06:24Well, absolutely.
06:25And as per protocol,
06:26the device is going to be sent
06:27to forensic labs
06:29and of course
06:29it's going to be thoroughly investigated.
06:31A very, very significant development.
06:33Nagarjo and Dwarkannath,
06:34be with us.
06:35I'll just come back to you
06:36in a moment from now.
06:37I'm going to go straight across
06:38to Preeti as well.
06:40Preeti has been tracking
06:41those details.
06:42She continues to be with us
06:43from the crash site.
06:44Of course, Nagarjo and Dwarkannath
06:45with us as well.
06:47Divyesh also
06:48from the civil hospital
06:49and Vidya
06:50from the DNA sampling spot
06:52is what we've been given
06:53to understand.
06:54Preeti, coming to you.
06:55You know, you've been speaking
06:56to just so many people.
06:57Those who've been left behind.
06:59It's a very, very difficult situation
07:01to be in.
07:02You know, not just
07:03as a reporter as well
07:06where you, you know,
07:07talk to people
07:08who are coming to,
07:09you know,
07:09give them their DNA samples
07:11because they know
07:11that the body,
07:12the dead body as it is,
07:14is never going to be handed
07:15over to them.
07:16And in that sense,
07:17there will be
07:18very little dignity, isn't it?
07:20You know,
07:25I've been at the civil hospital
07:27where the DNA sampling
07:28is taking place,
07:29where the post-mortem is there,
07:30where the mortuary is there.
07:31They're moving some of the bodies
07:32from the post-mortem,
07:34from the mortuary
07:35to cold storages
07:36because it's overflowing
07:38and the DNA testing
07:39is going to take
07:39at least three days.
07:40But I want to give our viewers
07:41an understanding.
07:42I've managed to come to a position
07:43where we can actually see now
07:45the tail end of the aircraft
07:48AI-171,
07:49the Dreamliner.
07:50This,
07:51if I can ask my camera person,
07:52Sanjay,
07:53to actually zoom in,
07:55you can see two cranes
07:56that have been bought in.
07:57You can see
07:57the investigative agency
07:59that is also here,
08:01multiple agencies,
08:02the DGCA,
08:04the Civil Aviation Ministry,
08:06the, you know,
08:07then you also have
08:08the AIB,
08:10the Aircraft Accident
08:12Investigation Bureau.
08:14There are a team
08:15of 35 people from there.
08:17You can see
08:18there is seemingly
08:20now an attempt
08:21to move the tail
08:22of the Dreamliner.
08:25This is where,
08:25because the tail end assembly
08:26is the area,
08:28Sneha,
08:29where at least
08:30the agencies
08:32hope to recover
08:33a black box.
08:34If you look at it,
08:35there are two black boxes
08:36in an aircraft,
08:38one in the tail end assembly.
08:39So there is a possibility
08:40because at least
08:41the tail end assembly
08:42is intact.
08:43And since the course
08:44of the last two hours,
08:45we've seen at least
08:46a lot of movement
08:47around there
08:48because the entire site
08:49is now cordoned off.
08:50One must understand,
08:52Sneha,
08:53that as the Dreamliner
08:55had crashed,
08:56the debris is scattered
08:57between 900 meters as well.
09:00Yesterday,
09:01of my own account,
09:02I had seen,
09:03you know,
09:03from the tail end,
09:04900 meters away,
09:06there was a door
09:06that was also found.
09:07So one can very well
09:08understand,
09:09you know,
09:10the task,
09:11the mammoth task
09:11that the investigative agencies
09:13have in their hand.
09:14But what I can really tell you,
09:16and you can see,
09:17Sanjay is going to continue
09:18to close in
09:19on the visuals
09:20that are coming in.
09:20You can see
09:21investigative officers,
09:22you know,
09:23at the site.
09:24This is the area
09:25of maximum focus
09:26for all agencies
09:27right now
09:28because this,
09:29at least,
09:30is a controlled area
09:31where they know
09:32that they can possibly
09:33pull out
09:34some crucial information
09:36through the black box.
09:37of the aircraft.
09:38Like I said,
09:39there are two black boxes.
09:40One,
09:41in all possibilities,
09:42should be found
09:42in the tail end of it.
09:44This,
09:44of course,
09:44is the vantage point.
09:45All right,
09:46the latest that we're
09:46getting in right now
09:47is that black box
09:48has,
09:49in fact,
09:50word coming in,
09:51been found.
09:52So,
09:53I'm going to go back to you,
09:55Sneha,
09:55we're going to try
09:56and get in more information
09:57on this
09:57and back to you shortly.
09:59Right,
09:59okay.
10:00Now,
10:00of course,
10:00there were two black boxes
10:01is what Preeti is talking about
10:03at this point in time.
10:04But the confirmation
10:05that we have
10:06is that one black box
10:07has been recovered
10:08from the roof
10:08and that's what
10:09we were talking about
10:10with Nagarjun Dwarkanath.
10:12I'm going to go back again
10:13to Naga
10:13for more on that.
10:14Take us through the details,
10:16Nagarjun.
10:17What now?
10:17It goes to the
10:18forensics department.
10:21Okay,
10:22I'll in fact
10:22continue to go
10:23be with Preeti
10:24who is getting in more details
10:26on the recovery,
10:27Preeti,
10:28of the black box
10:29and what else
10:30do you see around you
10:30if you could give us
10:31an overview right now.
10:33Sneha,
10:34what we,
10:34okay,
10:34what we do know now
10:35that one of the black boxes
10:37that have been recovered
10:38has actually been recovered
10:39from right here behind me
10:40and this has been
10:41the tail end
10:42of the aircraft.
10:43This was the area
10:43where they were looking
10:44to recover the black box from
10:46and that's where
10:47they've managed
10:48to recover it.
10:49Now you can see
10:51two cranes
10:52that have been moved in
10:53and Sanjay will show you
10:54on either sides
10:55of the tail end
10:56of the wreckage
10:57of the aircraft
10:58and there is an attempt
10:59to move this wreckage now
11:01and that is of course
11:02after the recovery
11:04of the first black box.
11:05A lot of investigative action
11:07there,
11:08a lot of,
11:08you know,
11:09personnel from both
11:11the DGCA,
11:12the AIB,
11:14the civil ministry officials,
11:16all of them
11:17had been focused
11:18right now
11:19at the tail end
11:19of the aircraft.
11:20So this is of course
11:21the tactical part
11:22of it all
11:23and as you pointed out
11:24earlier,
11:25Sneha,
11:25the human aspect
11:26of it unfolding
11:27at the civil hospital
11:29which is really
11:30not far from here
11:31because the BG Medical Hostel
11:32and that is the mess area
11:34of the BG Medical Hostel
11:35is very, very close
11:37to the civil hospital.
11:38That is where of course
11:39the human tragedy
11:41and the,
11:42you know,
11:43the expanse of that
11:44is actually unfolding
11:45and that's the sad part
11:47because while DNA samples
11:49are being submitted,
11:50what we've been clearly
11:51given to understand
11:52is going to take
11:52at least three days,
11:54at least three days
11:56for DNA samples
11:58to be matched
11:59with the ones
12:00of their loved ones
12:01who are giving in
12:01these samples.
12:02Back to the studio.
12:03Preeti, I'll just come back
12:05to you in a moment
12:05from now.
12:06A quick word once again
12:07from Nagarjun,
12:08Duvarkhanath,
12:09for more on the kind
12:10of clues, Naga,
12:11that the black box
12:13essentially holds
12:14and what is the process
12:15from here on
12:16when it goes to the forensics?
12:17How soon do we get to know
12:19what could have possibly
12:21happened there
12:21that, you know,
12:22that eventually led
12:24to this fatal crash?
12:26The data goes to
12:27the forensic lab,
12:28Sneha,
12:28and posts that
12:29the aircraft investigation,
12:30accident investigation board
12:32takes over the data,
12:33sits with all the experts,
12:34sits with the Air India
12:35captains also,
12:36and then analyze the data
12:37and also they try
12:39to simulate
12:39if the data
12:40that is showing
12:41is also not manipulated.
12:43They take it
12:43to the simulator
12:45once again,
12:46getting the demonstration
12:47and simulation,
12:48putting in the same data
12:49at 625 feet,
12:51if there was no power,
12:52would the aircraft
12:53be crashing
12:54at the hostel?
12:55All the kilometers,
12:56the data,
12:57the height,
12:58speed would be recreated
12:59and finally a report
13:00would be submitted
13:01to the government also,
13:03not just to the government
13:03but Boeing as well.
13:05If there was any
13:05technical glitches
13:06and it was a gearing glitch
13:08from Boeing as well,
13:10the report would be given
13:11to Boeing asking
13:12the Boeing company
13:12to ensure that
13:13all the 787
13:14would be grounded
13:15across the world
13:16till further investigation
13:17comes out
13:18or some clarity
13:18comes out.
13:19But at this point of time,
13:20it seems like
13:21one of the accidents
13:23that has happened
13:24and Boeing 787
13:25has been flown
13:26flown across the globe
13:29for many, many years now
13:30and it seems to be
13:31one of the safest aircrafts.
13:33Experts have been saying
13:34that maybe
13:35flap configuration
13:36was wrong,
13:37maybe undercarriage
13:38was stuck
13:38or there was just
13:39not enough lift
13:40and one in a billion
13:41chances where
13:42both engines have failed.
13:44If both engines
13:45have failed,
13:45what was the reason?
13:46All this data
13:47would be crucially
13:48analyzed by experts
13:49including Boeing,
13:50Air India
13:51and our government
13:51representatives
13:52from the
13:53Aircraft Accident
13:53Investigation Board.
13:55That's right.
13:56Be with us.
13:57Nagar Jindwarkhan
13:58getting in more details
13:59as far as
13:59the Black Box
14:00is concerned
14:00to tell our viewers
14:01a little more
14:02about what this
14:04Black Box
14:05essentially does.
14:06Remember,
14:07it records
14:07vital flight data
14:08which is crucial
14:09for probe.
14:10It can withstand
14:11explosions,
14:13fire and
14:14high-speed crashes.
14:16Includes
14:16cockpit voice
14:18recorder
14:18and flight data
14:20recorder as well.
14:21It records
14:22radio transmissions
14:24and cockpit sounds
14:25as well.
14:26Includes conversation
14:27between the pilots,
14:28the engine noises,
14:30those records,
14:31altitude,
14:32air speed
14:33and flight heading
14:34flight data
14:34reveals the pilot's
14:36last actions
14:37and hence
14:38the recovery
14:38of the Black Box
14:39becomes just so important.
14:41In all ways,
14:42in all air crash investigations,
14:44recovery of the Black Box
14:46is actually the beginning
14:47of the investigation
14:48as to what could have
14:49horribly gone wrong
14:51with the airplane.
14:52and that's what
14:53is going to be done
14:54in the case
14:54of AI-171,
14:56the Dreamliner
14:57that crashed
14:57and killed
14:59241 people
15:01on board,
15:02more people
15:02who were
15:03not on board.
15:06I'm going to go
15:07also across
15:08to Devesh
15:08for more details
15:09on that story.
15:10Devesh is at
15:11the civil hospital,
15:12I understand,
15:13but he also continues
15:13to be with us.
15:15Devesh,
15:15in fact,
15:16give us
15:16an idea
15:17about how soon
15:19are those
15:21who are carrying
15:22out the rescue operations
15:23essentially trying
15:24to retrieve
15:24whatever remains
15:26really of the bodies
15:27of the passengers
15:28on that
15:28ill-fated flight.
15:30When is that process
15:31going to get over?
15:33Also,
15:33the DNA sampling
15:34of just so many passengers,
15:36that's a process
15:37that's going to take
15:38some time,
15:38isn't it?
15:39regarding the area
15:46where the aircraft
15:48crashed,
15:49that was at
15:49the EJ Medical College
15:51hostel.
15:53It was till late
15:54last evening.
15:56There were rescue
15:56efforts going on.
15:57They were searching
15:58for bodies.
15:59They were searching
16:00for remains.
16:01And also,
16:02they managed
16:02to pull out
16:03late in the night,
16:05like post-midnight.
16:06There was a body
16:07that was pulled out
16:08out of the rubble
16:09at the Medical College
16:11hostel.
16:11Now,
16:12as per the source,
16:13as per sources
16:14from the Gujarat
16:15Police Department
16:16and the local
16:17administration,
16:18there are no more
16:19missing people
16:20or no more
16:21bodies which could
16:23be there in the rubble.
16:24There are,
16:25there's the aircraft
16:26which remains over there,
16:28the aircraft's tail
16:29which remains over there,
16:30that needs to be removed.
16:31But that will be done
16:32only under supervision
16:34of DGACA authorities,
16:36Airport Authority
16:37of India authorities
16:38and especially
16:40the Aircraft
16:41Investigation,
16:43Aircraft Accident
16:44Investigation Bureau.
16:46So,
16:46all these officials
16:47are already present
16:48at the spot
16:49and that,
16:50that is why
16:51the recovery
16:52of black boxes
16:53happened.
16:54And as Nagarjun
16:55pointed out earlier
16:56that this is a
16:58crucial piece
16:58of evidence
16:59and which will give
17:00or bring to light
17:01the details
17:02of what went wrong
17:03in the aircraft,
17:04what went wrong
17:05in those 30 seconds
17:07that led to the crash.
17:09So,
17:09this is a crucial
17:10piece of evidence.
17:11Earlier,
17:11there was a DVR
17:12that was found,
17:13then there was a
17:14locator and transmitter
17:16that was found
17:16and now the black box
17:18has been recovered.
17:19So,
17:20black box
17:20is very crucial.
17:21It's a very crucial
17:22piece of evidence
17:23in terms of the
17:25air crash investigation
17:26and that will bring
17:27to light
17:28how this crash
17:30happened,
17:30what went wrong.
17:32Obviously,
17:32there are
17:33ATC details
17:34but they need
17:36to also get
17:36the flight recorder,
17:38the cockpit recorder
17:39to find out
17:40what was the
17:42kind of communication,
17:43what that happened
17:44in those 30 seconds
17:45between the two pilots.
17:47They gave a
17:47mayday call to ATC
17:48before the ATC
17:49could respond,
17:50the crash happened.
17:51So,
17:51what was the
17:52mayday call?
17:53Did they point out
17:54did the pilot,
17:56the co-pilot
17:56communicate with
17:57the co-pilot
17:58that there was
17:59something wrong,
18:00there was no
18:00propulsion,
18:02how did the
18:02flight,
18:03how did the plane
18:04come down crashing?
18:05So,
18:06that will only
18:07be found out
18:08with the cockpit
18:09recorder
18:09and also with
18:10the help
18:11of the black box
18:11which has now
18:12been recovered.
18:13That's right.
18:14Be with us,
18:14Divyesh.
18:15I'm going to go
18:15in fact back
18:16to Preeti once again
18:17who was at the
18:18crash site.
18:19Preeti,
18:19what's the latest
18:20that you can share
18:21with us?
18:22As far as what
18:22you see around you,
18:23you've of course
18:24been tracking that
18:25story from the
18:26civil hospital as well.
18:27But as of now,
18:28what is going on?
18:30Tell us more.
18:34You know,
18:35we've moved from
18:35the civil hospital
18:36right now.
18:37We're one of the
18:37buildings right behind.
18:39You know,
18:39one of the very few
18:40channels that have
18:41been able to find
18:42this particular position.
18:44And I'll ask my
18:45camera person,
18:45Sanjay,
18:46to actually show you
18:47because what we've
18:47been discussing
18:48right now in the
18:48studio is actually
18:49playing right behind
18:50me.
18:51We saw a lot of
18:52action just a short
18:53while ago when I
18:54showed you lots of
18:54officials milling
18:56right on top where
18:57the tail end of the
18:59Dreamliner is lodged
19:00into the mess area of
19:02the BJ Hospital
19:04hostel.
19:06And this was the
19:07area.
19:07Right now you can see
19:08a complete lull in
19:09activity because 10 to
19:1115 minutes ago this
19:12was the area from
19:14which was pulled out
19:15the black box.
19:15Now that is going to
19:16be the crucial, you
19:18know, point of
19:18information on what
19:20exactly went down at
19:22about 1.38 PM last
19:24night.
19:25What you can see
19:27right behind me is
19:28also now an attempt to
19:30try and dislodge, you
19:32know, the wreckage of
19:33the tail end of the
19:34aircraft.
19:35They were trying to do
19:36so to extract the black
19:40box but because of, you
19:43know, the impact of the
19:45Dreamliner on this
19:46particular building, the
19:47entire structure because I
19:49was there inside late last
19:50night is rather unstable.
19:53And that's also one of the
19:54main reasons that even for
19:56the investigating officials
19:58who are there after the
19:59extraction of the black box,
20:00they have moved down away
20:02from the building and
20:03because, you know, to
20:05extract it, they had to
20:06move the wreckage and
20:07therefore destabilizing the
20:08building a little bit as
20:10well.
20:11So, yes, the black box has
20:12been found.
20:13It's been found from the
20:14tail end assembly of the
20:15Dreamliner which you can
20:17see lodged right behind me
20:19in the mess area of the
20:21BJ Hospital hostel.
20:24And now is, I would
20:26reckon, and I'm sure
20:27Sneha Naga is also with us,
20:28he'll be able, you know, to
20:30pitch in in terms of what
20:32this data could actually
20:33entail in terms of
20:34information because this
20:36would be crucial.
20:37You know, it's been one of
20:38the rarest of rare tragedies
20:40that both the engines of
20:43the Dreamliner have faced
20:45an aerodynamic stall which
20:47is no thrust, no power,
20:49you know, leave alone one
20:50but both engines together.
20:52And that has resulted in
20:54this mammoth, catastrophic
20:55tragedy in Ahmedabad, the
20:57worst possibly that India
20:59has ever seen.
21:00I'm sure Naga can also
21:01pigeon over to you, Sneha.
21:03That's right.
21:03In fact, this is a question
21:04that we are exploring right
21:06now on whether there was a
21:08double engine failure that
21:10could have caused this crash.
21:12That's something that we
21:12want to talk about.
21:14Pilot actually issued a
21:15mayday call at 1.39 p.m.
21:18yesterday.
21:19A mayday call is typically
21:21triggered when both engines
21:22fail.
21:23Now, in case of single
21:24engine failure, pilots can
21:26usually divert to the nearest
21:28airport.
21:30Safe landing actually didn't
21:32happen, raising suspicion of
21:34complete engine power loss.
21:37That's also something that
21:38needs to be looked at very
21:40closely and something that the
21:41investigations will eventually
21:43reveal.
21:45Also, to tell our viewers,
21:47the double engine failure is
21:49actually highly unusual and
21:51catastrophic.
21:52And that's the reason why
21:53questions were being raised on
21:55how could it happen?
21:56Boeing 787, with a good
21:58safety record, otherwise has
22:01in fact led to this crash or
22:03what really has led to this
22:04crash.
22:05Nagarjun continues to be with
22:07us.
22:07Nagarjun, the whistleblower from
22:09Boeing had essentially flagged
22:10off concerns in the past as
22:12well, involving 787.
22:15How did two engines fail if that
22:16was the reason for this crash?
22:18These are questions that Boeing
22:20has to answer eventually and
22:22that's the reason why the
22:23investigations will throw light
22:25on whether there are actual
22:26faults with 787 as flagged off
22:30by the whistleblower in the
22:31past, isn't it?
22:33Well, in 2014, a lot of reports
22:35have come through whistleblower as
22:37to safety issues of the same
22:38dreamliner 787 and there was
22:41tough competition with Airbus
22:43competitors 330 and 350 back
22:45then.
22:46But initially, it was the reports
22:47of battery glitch and engine
22:49issues, but the same engine, the
22:51General Electric engines are
22:53being used on 777.
22:54Both 787 and 777 have had
22:56terrific track record over the
22:58last 10 years apart from the
22:59battery glitches initially and
23:01Boeing rectified it and since
23:02then, it has got good safety
23:04record across India.
23:06Many world-class airlines use,
23:08including Air India, use 787.
23:10Like I was saying, double engine
23:11failure is highly unlikely, one in a
23:14billion or one in a trillion
23:15situation.
23:17The aircrafts are such
23:18sophisticated, both Boeing and
23:19Airbus, snare, even if the pilot
23:21wants to crash it wantedly or even
23:24with purpose, the aircraft sends
23:27back a message that it won't.
23:28Even if the pilot pushes the stick
23:30down, putting the nose towards the
23:32ground, the aircraft system
23:34automatically takes over and ensures
23:35that the plane doesn't go to the
23:38ground.
23:39That's the sophistication system that
23:40we are talking about and if it has
23:42really happened that both engines
23:44have failed or is it because of
23:45bird hit or it was because of
23:47manual miscommunication instead of
23:50putting the wheels up, did the
23:52co-pilot push the flaps back on?
23:55That's the big angle that the
23:56investigative agency will be looking
23:58at because during take-off, we
24:01always take flaps either to 25, 30 or
24:0410 or 5 degrees.
24:05What are flaps?
24:06Flaps are something like extra panels
24:08on the wing which creates or gives
24:10you more air wing width so that the
24:14lift is increased when during the
24:16take-off and usually flaps are rolled
24:18back at 10,000, 12,000 after you have
24:20reached certain altitude because it's
24:22not safe reducing the wingspan
24:24initial take-off.
24:26So if the captain told the co-pilot to
24:28pull the wheels back up, did the co-pilot
24:30pull the flaps back up, all these angles
24:32will have to be looked into but seemed
24:35like it's unlikely because both these
24:37pilots had tremendous experience flying
24:39the same plane.
24:40Remember, they're not flying difference
24:42plane.
24:43On the same plane, they've had experience.
24:45So unlikely that a small error like
24:47this would have happened but only
24:49Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau
24:51can come up with the exact reasons
24:53and why if they've lost power and why
24:55both engines failed, that's the big
24:57question mark as of today.
24:59Well, absolutely.
25:00Nagarjun, I'm going to come back to you
25:02in a moment from now as far as the
25:03investigations are concerned.
25:05But to tell our viewers a little about
25:08this tragedy, a little more about the
25:10devastating air tragedy in Amtapath,
25:12which has claimed the lives of over 250
25:14people.
25:15The pressing question is, what happens
25:17next?
25:18And most importantly, the answers to what
25:21caused this deadly crash.
25:23Local authorities are piecing together the
25:25final moments of Air India Flight 171
25:28through key evidence, including the black box
25:30that is going to help reconstruct the flight
25:33path and uncover what went wrong during
25:36the takeoff.
25:37Analysts of the wreckage will also be done
25:39to, or rather analysis is going to be done
25:41in the wreckage to determine the sequence
25:43of events and identify any mechanical
25:46failures.
25:47Aviation consultant John M. Cox says
25:50investigators will look into whether the
25:52aircraft is properly configured for takeoff,
25:55specifically if the flaps that Naga mentioned
25:58just now and slats deployed correctly.
26:02A thorough review of the aircraft's maintenance
26:04logs will be conducted to check for any
26:07overlooked repairs or known technical problems.
26:14From the images, we can get an idea of some
26:18of the things that the investigators are going
26:20to look at.
26:20One of which is, was the airplane properly
26:24configured for flight?
26:25Were the slats and flaps in the proper location?
26:29That is something that's on the flight data
26:31recorder, so we'll know immediately.
26:34Now, the airplane does have a warning system
26:37that will advise the pilots with a horn as well
26:41as a message on a computer screen if the airplane's
26:45not properly configured for takeoff.
26:47At this point, it's very, very, very early.
26:50We don't know a whole lot, but the 787 has
26:54very extensive flight data monitoring.
26:58The parameters on the flight data recorder
27:00are in the thousands.
27:02So once we get that recorder, they'll be able
27:05to know pretty quickly what happened.
27:10Vidya also continues to be with us as far
27:12as the DNA sampling is concerned.
27:14Vidya, family members continue to trickle in
27:16to give out their DNA samples.
27:18Just tell us, this is DNA sampling for 241 passengers.
27:22What's the process, really, and how long will, before
27:26we get to know, before, you know, the family members
27:29get an opportunity to identify whatever remains, really,
27:33of their loved ones?
27:38Well, Sneha, you know, this is one case where almost
27:41everything will really take time, be it the investigation,
27:45the discovery of the black box just now, the decoding.
27:49And, you know, we all know that Boeing has a lot at stake in this,
27:53and so certainly they would want to be part of the investigation.
27:55So the investigation and getting to know exactly as to what really led
27:59to this will take time.
28:01Similarly, right here at the DNA sampling center
28:05where I'm located, if I can just show you,
28:08these are just families who are just waiting here
28:10since yesterday.
28:13In fact, some of them, I've been speaking to them,
28:14they reached here around 3 o'clock,
28:16and they've been just waiting here
28:18just to get the report,
28:20just to get, as soon as the matching report.
28:23And they've said very clearly that, you know,
28:25when I was speaking to one family,
28:26and they said that, you know,
28:28if only there was some way to shorten this entire process
28:31to just make sure that, you know,
28:34the handing over of the body would be done at the earliest.
28:37So because, like, there's one family of Nadia who was here,
28:41and they kept saying that, you know,
28:42they've been trying to go every few hours they enter,
28:44and of course, there's a wait of 72 hours.
28:47The administration also cannot really do much,
28:49but the families are, you know, getting restless.
28:53They are going every hour,
28:54getting inside the sampling center,
28:57wanting to know exactly how long, if more,
28:59and all that they're being told is you'll get a call.
29:01So that's something that, you know,
29:03the administration and the people who are waiting here,
29:07you know, are trying to make sure that, you know,
29:10the people do not really feel restless.
29:12They're trying to ensure that there are seating arrangements there.
29:14Everyone's being provided with food and water.
29:16But, of course, you know,
29:18the people who really want the bodies to be handed over,
29:22then they can take it back to Nadia,
29:24say, for example, this particular family.
29:26You know, they want the process to really end.
29:28They have already lost their near and dear ones,
29:30and just hope that, you know,
29:32it wouldn't stretch this long for everyone to wait.
29:35But, well, the DNA sampling has been done for the bodies last night itself.
29:41Most of the relatives of those, you know, people,
29:45their sampling has also been done,
29:47but except for a few who are still awaited,
29:50all this process will, as the administration has been saying,
29:5372 hours, that is three days, is what it is going to take.
29:57That's certainly much before, you know,
29:59when the investigation reports will come out.
30:02But certainly, it's a very long wait for the family members here
30:06at the civil hospital in Ahmedabad.
30:10All right, Vidya, getting in those details,
30:12241 passengers who lost their lives.
30:16There was one person who cheated then.
30:19Ramesh was seated in 11A,
30:21a window seat located in the first row of economy class
30:25near an emergency exit.
30:28His miraculous escape stunned the world
30:30and sparked conversations around social media
30:33with many calling his survival an act of divine intervention.
30:37The term Miracle Seat 11A is now trending globally.
30:42Here's more on the lone survivor.
30:49God's Own Child
30:50A Miracle Man
30:52The lone survivor of the horrific Air India plane trash
30:58that killed every single of the 241 on board
31:02barring 45-year-old British national Vishwas Kumar Ramesh.
31:08It's a miracle amid an unthinkable tragedy.
31:23As charred bodies were painstakingly retrieved
31:26from the debris of the crash site,
31:29no less than a graveyard,
31:30a sight of a man walking away from the plane crash site.
31:35The bruises on his face stunned the nation.
31:38While in hospital,
31:49Vishwas Kumar Ramesh
31:51narrated how he managed the miraculous escape.
31:54As a seat fell off the plane,
31:56and he took off his seatbelt
31:57and walked away from the accident spot.
32:27I was not feeling like this.
32:29I was waiting for the accident there.
32:30I was waiting for the last thing,
32:30but when there lies in the ground,
32:34I was a place for the saiyat.
32:36So when there was a whole case,
32:39there was a place in...
32:40After the plane,
32:40and after all,
32:42all the door were broken,
32:43I saw the door in the end,
32:45and I saw it there.
32:46I was trying to survive.
32:47I was trying to survive.
32:48So I had to survive.
32:49So I went to survive.
32:49the building out on the wall to the support side many because the
32:56Oga
32:58Prime Minister Narendra Modi also met with him wishing him a speedy recovery
33:05Ramesha's own brother Ajay Kumar seated next to him
33:09was among the 241 on board the ill-fated dreamliner who perished
33:19back home in Leicester in the UK India today met with the family of Vishwas
33:24Ramesh
33:26yeah we've received support from obviously our family
33:30they've all come in to give us support but we don't have any support from
33:36the UK's government or now the India's government we've received no updates
33:41whatsoever
33:43what is your effect what is it that you're doing now and what has the
33:48plans
33:49it's only right now we're just waiting on updates now on my older brother
33:54that's what we're worried about right now
33:57the family is still waiting to hear formally from air India
34:01about Vishwas's brother who has not survived the crash
34:08Ajay Kumar was Vishwas Kumar's co-passenger
34:12in the same flight
34:15yeah they were sitting next to each other but we don't know what happened to his brother
34:18we don't heard anything yes we heard that but we can we still can say anything
34:23unless we hear from the proper people person
34:27call it the miracle of seat 11a as reported widely by the international press or divine intervention
34:37Vishwas Kumar Ramesh's survival is both a mystery and a miracle
34:43a lone light in a sky clouded with sorrow
34:49bureau report india today
34:51Viti Vishwas Kumar Ramesh talks about how he actually fell off and that's how
35:01he managed to you take his seat belt off and and escape actually just he got up and walked away
35:07from the crash site i mean this is nothing short of a miracle it happens but it's extremely infrequent
35:15it's not happened so often in the past but you know there are big questions that remain on how
35:20did he survive after that heat of the fuselage after the impact of the crash isn't it how is
35:26he doing at this point in time pretty are you asking me stay up yes pretty stay how was that for
35:38me all right okay stay half of what we do know because the prime minister did visit him and after
35:41that we did of course see that interview given to another organization by Vishwas Kumar and the fact
35:50is Neha you know he is like I said a miracle in all of this if 242 passengers were there 241 have
35:59been designated killed and one walked out so one can very well imagine that it is that hail mary moment
36:05when it came down to this crash and what is also you know fascinating one would say is the sheer fact
36:12that he walked out a walked out b walked out with very little burns he just has a burn on one side of
36:18his thighs what we are being told otherwise hematoma injury so he uh you know actually walked out
36:23possibly before uh the entire aircraft was engulfed in a ball of fire but uh you know what he also did
36:29say and it's important to know during that interview and i'll ask my camera person uh you know sanjay to
36:33actually uh zoom in because this is where the tail end is there and he said i wasn't part uh you know i
36:39did not where at least my seat was there uh it wasn't near the tail end or the mess and understandably
36:45because he was in 11a so that's the seat right up front of the aircraft near the cockpit to give
36:50up your perspective so this is the tail end right up ahead you can see those three charred buildings
36:55that was uh the hostel area uh the tail end was lodged in the mess area that is where the plane had
37:01crash landed uh had crashed up into the mess area and those three buildings up ahead were the hostel and
37:07that is the area of course where the engine and one of the engines is actually found intact is what we've
37:12been given to understand and that in uh in effect on its own is going to be uh a case study of a
37:18separate investigation because both of uh the engines had failed in this dreamliner so uh that is also
37:25the area where what you say uh you know vishwas kumar sneha was actually uh you know his seat uh or you
37:33know at least uh uh where his part of the aircraft crashed that part in in that area and he was able to
37:40move out and walk out uh once again i want to just take our viewers through on the importance of the
37:45developments that have happened over the last 30 minutes near and that is finding uh you know the
37:50black box and if naga is still with us i'd like to if you allow me ask him one question because if you
37:55actually uh you know if this was something uh that the investigative agencies and there are multiple
38:02agencies that are working together uh you know looking to figure out uh if the black box uh was found
38:08and once it's been found it's going to be crucial in terms of information on three fronts as far as
38:13the recovery of the black box is concerned but a moment to discuss the man the lone survivor who
38:19walked away from the crash site and you can take a look at those pictures essentially that had gone
38:23completely viral of vishwas kumar ramej the 45 year old british national who actually realized that he is
38:31alive imagine what a moment that would have been of course trauma as well also given the fact
38:38that vishwas kumar ramesh his own brother was seated next to him and he perished in that fatal attack
38:45i'm going to go back to pretty also discussing the recovery of the black box and the very fact that
38:51this is obviously going to offer important clues into how the dreamliner crashed pretty
39:00uh you know that's what i was talking about sneha because the development of the last 30 minutes away
39:04from the human side the human side is all too overbearing and i would think uh you know that
39:09would be etched in civil aviation uh history in india forever but talking about the tactical side of
39:14it the discovery of the black box will now be crucial the the dreamliner 787 is concerned on multiple
39:21factors uh on three main factors the black box will help number one all the kind all the conversations
39:26that were recorded in the cockpit now uh will uh you know uh you know one can identify what really happened
39:32number two um on uh on uh all mechanical sounds that take place inside a cockpit so whatever distress
39:40signals that were sent out the machine noise the beeps all of that is now going to be lodged into the
39:45memory of the black box and that is going to be crucial uh sneha because multiple agencies are going to
39:51investigate on what really went down and uh it will have a bearing on not just this particular crash of
39:58the 787 dreamliner but will possibly have a bearing on other boeing aircrafts as well boeing aircrafts
40:05as well number three sneha mechanical parameters over thousand parameters would be lodged in to that black
40:13box and uh the present day uh you know gen x black box are a plug in and plug out uh you know kind of
40:19devices where uh you know they're plugged into a particular device and all the information is immediately
40:26gotten out so it could very well be plugged into a computer and uh through that basis of that
40:31computer all the kind of three parameters that we actually spoke of will be disseminated so these
40:37three factors are crucial right now to understand where we stand in terms of investigation was it a
40:44pilot error was it uh you know a mechanical fault in this particular aircraft was it a problem with
40:50settings was it what many people are still speculating just a bird hit and there is a bird problem
40:56where the amdabad airport is concerned and you know we've seen this over the course of you know the
41:01last 24 hours and most air aviation you know experts would say that there is a bird problem
41:07where the amdabad airport is concerned but having said that all of those parameters would be now
41:13recorded so the bearing of the findings of what comes out of the black box is going to be imperative
41:20to know what really went wrong and does that limit it to this particular ill-fated dreamliner 787 ai171
41:29flight or will it have far reaching implications mind you we must bear right now in our uh you know
41:35minds that this is an investigation that has gone beyond just indian investigative agencies there are
41:42members of the boeing and you know uh lots of other uh countries uh who have the dreamliner uh are
41:50interested and are inquisitive are impacted with what has really gone down uh in the last uh you know
41:5724 hours uh right here in amdabad so naga i want to pull you in on this because you know that's most uh
42:04imperative right now because the new age black box devices are plugged in and you would be able to get
42:10in all the kind of information immediately and this will could in fact have far-reaching consequences
42:16and implications something that could be limited very well to what we see behind me which is this
42:21particular aircraft was it just a malfunction which was limited to this ill-fated flight or will it
42:26actually have implications on other boeing aircrafts as well other dreamliners as well well irrespective
42:33of what the implications or the data comes out pretty most likely it will have implications on other
42:40boeing 787 unless it was a pilot error unless pilot manually pushed a lever uh ensured the engines
42:47were cut off or the flaps were retracted if these are the points that comes out of the investigation
42:52then there'll be no implications but if it was a technical glitch yes definitely there would be
42:57implications of boeing 787 across the world and already a dgcn minister of civil aviation authority
43:04has just put out notification of checks to be done starting from 15 june on all 787 that is flying in
43:11india uh there have to be checks of power control because all these control systems that pilots uses
43:17are fly-by-wire it's not manual hydraulics and electronic systems motors are used if to turn right to turn left
43:23to turn uh to pull up and pull down all these are done electronically or through hydraulics and checks
43:29have to be done starting from 15th is what the notification says and notice that all electronics
43:34have to be checked all hydraulic systems have to be checked and every two weeks there has to be a
43:40subsequent throat check is what the dgca notification says seems like already uh the dgca and the ministry of
43:47civil aviation have pulled up their socks to say that we are going to ensure double checks are being
43:52done on 787 so that no further accidents or incidents happen considering there have been issues
43:57with boeing 787 whistleblowers have put out reports on what the issues were since 2014 now the dgca will you
44:04just stay with me and maybe you can talk us through that in terms of your own uh experience where civil
44:09aviation is concerned now uh the aviation body dgca has issued new norms i want to just take our viewers
44:16through it and i got you know uh pipe in whenever you think uh right uh aviation body dgca's new
44:22norms include enhanced safety inspection on boeing 787-89 fleet of ms air india one time check before
44:30departure of flights from india uh inspection of fuel parameters monitoring and association of system
44:37checks inspection of cabin air compressor and associated systems electronic engine control system test
44:44engine fuel driven act uh actuator operation test and oil system check serviceability check of
44:51hydraulic systems review of takeoff parameters flight control inspection power assurance checks closure of
44:57maintenance action based on the review of repetitive snags naga you know when i go through that list one
45:02really wonders wasn't this already happening and if it wasn't happening the why in the world was it not
45:07happening well it was happening but now it has to be thorough and maybe it has to be uh put it on the log
45:13book or documented thoroughly as well uh nothing wrong in doing double checks even the pilots before
45:17takeoff while taxing they do the checks that's the takeoff parameters and while being at the bay also
45:23do the takeoff parameter checks and hence still accidents usually happen no matter how many checks are
45:29required so dgc has put it on paper now that it has to be compulsory not just monitoring visually and
45:35just talking to the flight engineer uh uh downstairs the pilots or usually talk to the flight engineer in
45:40terms of fuel pressure in terms of engine pressure and all of it but now it has to be documented
45:44starting from june 15th just to ensure that there's double check for 787 and further action doesn't
45:50for the accident or incident doesn't happen because we have lost 250 240 flights and till the flight data
45:56recorder on the cockpit voice recorder we analyze the data we can't risk the lives of people still flying
46:01787 air india largely uses 787 in india to uh to fly west either to us or to europe so till the data
46:09is analyzed let's not take a risk is what dgc is saying all right okay uh naga once again you know uh
46:19let's take a moment to reflect on how important uh possibly uh you know we are standing at the precipice
46:25of finding out what really went down yesterday at 1 38 pm when the first mayday signal went out of ai 171
46:33by captain sabarwal as the dreamliner right behind me uh crashed crammed through the mess area and then
46:40of course this is just the tail end viewers it's about 600 meters ahead the debris actually scattered
46:45up to 900 meters uh in front of it if you see the buildings on the left and the on the right three units
46:51of buildings completely charred that's where the maximum fatalities in terms of burns have taken
46:56place on the other side of course uh where the mess area is concerned three fatalities already confirmed
47:01of students mostly hematoma injuries uh but naga once again three big factors that would have been
47:07recorded where the black box is concerned number one all the uh uh you know uh the conversations uh
47:14in the cabin number one uh about thousand parameters in terms of what really went down in terms of
47:20mechanical parameters uh all of that now recorded even machine noise beats distress signals all of
47:27that will be recorded absolutely pretty the analysis would start right start from the delhi to amadabad
47:34like uh was there crew resource if the crew were in tandem was there any fight between them in the
47:39previous leg uh did they have an argument or were they listening to each other all that this would be
47:44analyzed and also the crucial data will come come from the cockpit voice recorder when the captain has called
47:49mayday mayday mayday usually the captain alerts the atc that for example if he's lost engine pressure
47:54or engine uh engine thrust he would say mayday mayday mayday in india 171 i've lost power i've lost thrust
48:00is what the captain would have told the atc and hence uh the moment you plug in the cockpit voice recorder we
48:06know the real uh reason for the crash because the captain would have seen the instruments giving out
48:12warnings and he would have communicated directly to the atc if not if there was a manual error they they
48:17would be a voice of captain telling the copilot why would you pull up the flaps why would the
48:21undercarriage not be up all this conversation between the copilot and the pilot would be recorded
48:26immediately and also the person who's sitting at the atc the moment he realizes mayday mayday mayday
48:32has come from air india 171 he also would transmit the message to the ground april and fire brigade also
48:38but in this case unfortunately the mayday call came at 600 feet even if it was a 2000 or 3000 i'm guessing that
48:45he would have some time to glide uh maybe a minute or so and maybe try to land on a empty patch but
48:51this time around it was just 600 feet and the acre of started gliding towards the ground
48:59naga would you want to reflect on the you know the new uh gen x black boxes because uh what at least
49:05we've been given to believe by aviation experts it's practically plug in and you'd be able to get out
49:11all the information so it's literally uh you know plugging in a device to your laptop and you'd have
49:15all over thousand mechanical uh parameters uh of the aircraft at that point of time on what went down
49:22uh filtering through well that's absolutely true uh crucial data if we are talking about double engine
49:31failure what led to the double engine failure was there fuel contamination uh was the pressure not enough
49:37the fuel pressure not enough to the engines and was there already a snag that during the taxing that
49:42the pilots picked up and they ignored it these are the angles that the data would give out to the
49:46investigative agency and they also can inculcate further in the training of the pilots that these
49:51warnings or signals if they come during the taxing should not be ignored and what was the uh aircraft
49:57set in terms of parameters what was the takeoff uh uh parameters set in the cockpit usually you have
50:02flaps at 10 15 20 25 depending on the weight of the aircraft or was the aircraft fully loaded was the
50:08center of gravity moving away from where it has to be all this data will be analyzed it would take
50:13pretty at least two to three months to sit with experts because it has to be a holistic study
50:19uh this will have implications hence it will be the most crucial analyzed report by the uh
50:24before it comes to the government or before it's made public
50:27all right so you know of course you're right there uh uh it is going to be a holistic study
50:37which will go on for at least a month or two to understand on what really went down uh naga i i want
50:44to i want to cut across right now immediately back to sneha sneha over to you in the studio all right
50:48pretty getting asked those details nagar jindwarkhanath also on why the recovery of the black box is
50:53important enhanced rules also that has been announced by the authority by the dgca to in
51:00fact ensure that there is double check double check is something that nagar jindwarkhanath
51:05mentioned that the safety inspections have to be enhanced and additional maintenance has to be done
51:11these are things that are being looked at right now even as the investigations in that horrific crash
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