00:00Well, I went down for a sandwich during the London Bridges hack
00:04at Borough Market.
00:05I was working in the news building there.
00:07I went down and I stumbled across all the bodies there.
00:10And I've spoken about it a few times.
00:11And I was with one young Australian girl.
00:12Her name was Sarah Zeleniak, and she'd had her throat cut.
00:15And she was one of the five victims.
00:17But I will never forget the sign.
00:19I was standing over her.
00:20I was just staring at her thinking I couldn't quite compute
00:23what was going on.
00:24I didn't know why she wasn't moving.
00:26But she was dead.
00:28I concluded she was dead.
00:29But I'll never forget that sign.
00:30But I don't think it's really affected me that much.
00:33I cried that night.
00:34I was shaken up.
00:35But I don't think it...
00:36I mean, some people say to me, you're going to have to deal with that
00:37in the future.
00:38But I don't think it affected me too much.
00:39So my relative, who's actually Callum's auntie,
00:42she was actually on the tube.
00:44And they got evacuated from the tube.
00:46So that was the only reason she was on the bus.
00:48And she went upstairs and she wanted a window seat.
00:51And there was only one.
00:52And she actually asked somebody to move so that she could sit
00:54in that window seat.
00:55And when you see the pictures of the bus,
00:57there are just some seats left at the front.
00:59And she was in that last seat.
01:01And so she played over why she made that decision to get on in the first
01:05and why she went for that seat.
01:07You know, unfortunately, it's quite a religious family.
01:09And I think she finds her fate.
01:10What about the person next to her, whose seat that she'd swapped with?
01:14No, no.
01:15Those two seats were there, but it was all the seats behind.
01:18Wow.
01:19Yeah, incredible.
01:20Is it fate?
01:20Is it luck?
01:21Who knows?
01:22Well, you know, the...
01:23My little story is in Brixton, where the Brixton bomb was.
01:26And I was actually going to meet one of my best friends at the time,
01:30a girl called Penny.
01:31And she was coming from...
01:32She was coming from Essex.
01:33She was going to come and meet me.
01:35And she'd said, oh, no, don't bother, don't bother.
01:36I said, no, no, no, I'll meet you there.
01:37She goes, no, no, no.
01:39She goes, no, no, don't bother.
01:40I said, no, I'll come to meet you at Brixton.
01:41No, no, no.
01:42I like a good walk.
01:43It's fine.
01:44So I said, all right, all right, I won't meet you.
01:46And in fact, her tube stopped at Stockwell
01:48because the nail bomb had happened
01:50and I would have been standing outside of that Brixton station
01:54at that time had she not said, no, don't come and meet me.
01:57She felt very shaken because...
01:58I don't know, because I'm struggling to say it,
01:59but my cousin died on the bus.
02:02On 7-7?
02:03Yeah.
02:03Bless you.
02:04What was her name?
02:05No, his name was Anthony.
02:06Anthony?
02:07Yeah.
02:07God rest his soul.
02:08But, yeah, he didn't make it.
02:09What do you remember of that day?
02:11Funnily enough, I'd been using the King's Cross train
02:13and I'd quit just the week before,
02:15so I wasn't going on my normal route that day.
02:18And then when we found out,
02:20anyway, it's like, yeah,
02:21it was about just to think that he was at the back.
02:23Yeah.
02:23Even at the front.
02:24At the back.
02:25I'm so sorry.
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