During a House Oversight Committee hearing on Thursday, Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) asked witnesses about the best use cases for artificial intelligence.
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00:00I will now recognize Mr. Gosar for five minutes.
00:03Thanks, Chairwoman.
00:04Ms. Miller, you described the COVID process as a catastrophic event with a high risk of fraud.
00:12I agree.
00:13I am the only non-U.S. President of the United States to have ever killed a national emergency.
00:17I kill COVID.
00:19But there's not a single receipt, though.
00:21And since Bill Clinton through Joe Biden, we've spent over $13 trillion, let me say that again, $13 trillion without a receipt.
00:33Could we use AI to examine the funds spent under COVID?
00:38It depends on how much, where that data is available.
00:40Certainly, AI can be used to mine any data sets that exist.
00:45The question I think you're really asking is whether or not that data exists.
00:48And I don't have the answer to that question.
00:51Well, I hope that we'd have some database, because we have a record of where it went, supposedly.
00:59Well, yeah.
01:00So we have a record of where a lot of the spending went.
01:03And, of course, the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee, the organization that I helped lead,
01:07has a lot of that data on their website about where money was spent during the pandemic.
01:11A lot of that money was stolen, something I talk about a lot.
01:14We don't know where that money went.
01:15A lot of the money that was stolen during the pandemic went to overseas foreign adversarial nation states.
01:20So they also could have, how should I say this, if they were recouping, my understanding there was over 2,000 cases in Arizona alone that entities or individuals were actually sued by the government to get it back, resulting in compensation of over $300 million.
01:38We could use that as well, if it disappeared.
01:43Once again, it's based on the data, right?
01:46Yeah, it's based on the data.
01:47I don't think I'm qualified to answer that.
01:49Thanks.
01:49Okay.
01:50Mr. Shah, you talked about our procurement system.
01:55Boy, it's broken.
01:56So how would you use AI during that whole process because our overruns in our military are outrageous?
02:04How can we keep them on track?
02:06How does that work?
02:08Yeah, I think there's a variety of things to talk about on that topic.
02:12One, you can use AI to help with the procurement process itself in terms of analyzing vendors,
02:17summarizing, you know, submissions, generating use cases and requirements for the different agencies that are looking for new technology.
02:28But I think before that, we need to sort of create an environment where these new technologies that can be applied to procurement or anything else in the U.S. government can make their way into these agencies.
02:40And I think that's a human process problem that we have an opportunity here in this committee to really kind of provide some oversight and correction
02:48so that we can go about delivering these great new technologies into these agencies quickly, right?
02:56We've spent years working on this ourselves to try and get into agencies.
03:00But if you look at a lot of these procurement, you know, sort of processes, they're multi-year.
03:05They're outdated from the 1990s where essentially, you know, you're thinking about installing software on some server rack that's going to last five years.
03:14And then it might take two years to actually go through the procurement process.
03:17This is untenable for young companies who have limited cash, limited capital, who want to be able to monetize their investments
03:25and especially help the U.S. government move quickly.
03:29So could you use something like a blockchain?
03:32See, I'm not a techie.
03:33I got questions.
03:34You know, could you use a blockchain to kind of utilize some type of – I see you – I'll come back to you in a second.
03:39But I want to – Mr. Shaw, is there some kind of technology that will help preserve some of this data or save us?
03:45So we do not deploy blockchain technology for our solution.
03:50We focus squarely on what employees can benefit from when it comes to using AI to be more productive.
03:57So I'm unfortunately not able to answer how blockchain could be used here.
04:01But generally speaking, technology has been shown in the private sector to have tremendous impacts on their efficiencies
04:08and their ability to stay ahead and to lead in the industry.
04:13Yes.
04:13Ms. Miller, I got one more question for you.
04:16Could you use AI to audit Medicaid, Medicare, any comparisons with hospital versus hospital?
04:23Yeah, that's a very, very good use case for AI because you can look at – there's a lot of claims data,
04:29and there's a lot of information on providers, and you can look at all that data using AI very quickly
04:35and identify patterns that look suspicious.
04:38It's an area that I think really is ripe for a lot of innovation in the space because CMS has the opportunity
04:46to really mine a lot of that Medicare and Medicaid data using artificial intelligence
04:51to identify taxpayer dollars that are being stolen.
04:54Gotcha.
04:54One moment of time, I yield back.